Nice one pocolee... sorry pocohantas

Your experience is quite an interesting one and I can relate with it.

I've known upwork since 2016/2017, only God know the evil spirit that stopped me from joining then.

Eventually, I opened an account in the first week of April 2020 as a software engineer. Getting approved almost immediately, I changed it to a writer's profile

I did not send any proposal at all till June 1st this year when I decided to take it more seriously. Got several feedbacks and eventually landed a long term writing job for a US based client. And it has been a wonderful experience so far

The completion in upwork is crazy. The Pakistanis, the Filipinos, and Indians have made it really difficult getting a work there. And the fact that we're Nigerians, we've already had like two own goals already.

Though some Nigerians are making it big. I recently came across a Nigerian based writer that has earned more than $100k+. Success in upwork is many a time a game of effort, chance, and luck.

Ajibade123:

I just checked your profile and I saw that you are about to start your own tech journey
it so bad you made comments like this on another person's post out of pure hate and dishonesty

Don't mind the guy.

The guy will be no better than the OP in the future. And come to think of it, the yeye trash talker is just barley starting his tech journey. We'll be here waiting for the time when he will ask us to rate his design work.

Even if you want to criticize someone, do so constructively. If there is nothing to commend the op about, at least commend him for the effort he put into building something.

That's one thing I hate about we Africans, we're just too quick dampen the zeal of fellow black folks like us... feeling like alpha and omega

@op didn't mind the trash talkers. You tried. Continue putting in the effort, with time you'll improve and get better.

Kly003:

I am currently pursing an undergraduate degree and I can say its totally worth it. The only issue with Poland is getting date, that's it.

Oh! Thanks

Can you kindly drop few tips and vital info we need to know about Poland undergraduate process. This will serve as a compass for us, we can research the others on our own.

Can I apply?

But I have 2 work conditions:

1. I'll only provide HTML skills, I don't know how you'll sort the other web Dev skills, it's none of my business

2. I'll work only 2hrs twice a week.

Kly003:
Guys, readers and viewers of this thread. You can all see that travelling abroad is worth it. Only if you travel the right way-ia studies mostly....

School na scam oo... But na for only naija.

Nice thread chief.

What about pursuing an undergraduate degree in Poland? I've gone through some threads about it here in Nairaland, heard quite some discouraging talks from people. What's your honest view about pursuing an undergraduate studies in Poland?

Ebubu3:
Imagine

Even my coworker in a private hospital fine pass this girl

This set has the ugliest set

Thumbs up to nengi and tasha set

Shown us the pics of your coworker

Xedmark:

Even if surgeries were performed on that rotten brain of yours, you won't still be able to comprehend my point. The same YouTube tutorials that placed a limitation on your career, what kind of Tech guy goes about looking for someone else's grammatical error, I'm sure the boy doesn't even know you exist. Why will you ever be busy coding or mentoring someone? Bros answer now? Your google search business finally failed you. 365days fasting will still be a waste and I hope the OP can use your case as a lesson.... 25ways To Be A Failure in Programming!! Check his signature.

Can we just be civilized for once?

You don't just come here and start insulting people for no justifiable reason. The person whose grammar he jokingly corrected even took it as a joke.

You're making fun of his career, but know this and know this well, it would take you 10 years of hard work to achieve what he has achieved in tech. What's your career projection in tech being like?

I saw the useless advice you're giving the guy, let him include JavaScript, Php, MySQL... what kind of tech professional will ask someone who haven't program to put these solid programming languages in his CV? Or do you think creating a tech CV and portfolio is just like your regular #15K salary CV?

You even went ahead to tell the guy not to use YouTube tutorials or buy courses! Instead let him come so that you'll put him through. This is the funniest and dumbest advice of the century.
And you claim yo be a computer science graduate. Mehn! that's sad.

Back to you @op... what exactly do you want from this UK man that you haven't gotten. If this story of yours is genuine, that you saw yourself through in school with your WordPress skills, what then will this man be able to give you that you haven't gotten?

If you will have to send your CV to him, come out plain with just the skills, show your work portfolio. It's as simple as that. If he has a job for you, fine. If he doesn't, fine. Spend the next 1 year of your life learning to code. Once you've learned to code, reach out to him. It won't be hard since you already have his contact, and have spoken with him in the past.

As simple as that.

Evolutionlove:


This Is the type of Nation I love to live In. Not In a nation where people live like Animals..Cc:Savageboy, See the country I told you about yesterday..

Yeah, I've checked it out and it looked quite nice.

Tech still remains the best for whoever that wants a remote work.

But if you don't wanna go through that route, then you can follow tensa's suggestion; salesforce admin. The pay is quite huge, though some are of the notion that salesforce admin roles are being taken by salesforce developers, but I still believe one can get a job solely as a salesforce admin. Just understand the salesforce platform well, write the salesforce cert exam, and start looking for remote job opportunities.

If you're good with words, you could try freelance writing(with good SEO skills). Though it seems saturated, but a lot of folks jumping into writing are really mediocre writers. Sometime last year,around December ending or so, a particular fb friend of mine, Chima mmeje made a post that she was $2K short of earning her first 6-figure income in dollars as a writer based in Nigeria. Though she left Nigeria to the UK few months ago, she's still a testimony that some really good writers earn really well even here in Nigeria.

You could also try product design, that too is nice and affords you lot of opportunity to work remitely. Some people say virtual assistant is good too, I don't have much idea about it.

Why do you want to go through the wilderness kind of struggle when the promise land is right before you.

What happened to frontend, backend and mobile app development? Maybe you don't want to join the crowd in pursuing these aforementioned tech paths, but there aren't enough persons in these paths... this road you're currently trying to enter is a very long one... before you reach your destination ehn!!!

Obaman12:


Baba I dey your back ooh. Let's link up on WhatsApp abeg

Thanks chief.

But I'll rather remain anonymous and keep stuffs private. We can do the chatting here, or possible communicate via pm

Dearlord:

oh Lord! U said buhari own n'a rehearsal
If everyone should port, then who will make Nigeria a better place?

Probably you and a few others

RenerdLiam:


Check Uzbekistan.

Met a friend there just about two days ago Which prompt me to made some research.

It's a cool country. She even advised me to move over.

But I am not ready for that.

Lol chief

That's a no go area

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Lol chief

emmaodet:


Rwanda is just a tourist country. Nothing more.
A country that is sooooooo broke and looking for money that she had to sign agrement with UK to be recieving illega immigrants sneaking to europe for a couple of millions of dollars per year for accepting/accomodating and feeding them. A very stupid deal. Sooner or later, the illegal immigrants will outgrow their small population and economy and ove-run them.

I'm telling you, Rwanda is nothing more than a dignified shit hole

I've read quite a lot of first hand stories about the country today. It's not worth migrating to

FlippersCare123:
cape Verde comes to mind

Yeah Cape Verde is nice, but it's more of a tourist destination.

Whitelion07:
yes na!!! No be only Nigeria news me dey watch oo! Our Naira wey Don spoil go soon turn to dollar for Ghana as things be for their now. Inflation wey dey naija market now dey learn for Ghana own right now.

Mehn!!!

Abujason:


Just calm down. Ebola Tinubu will not win. See as people are jumping ship from APC to PDP and Labour. Worst case scenario there is a run off and either Obi or Atiku wins. SE and SS will never align with a known crook Ebola Agbadola Cassavani Tinubu.

Meanwhile, Software Engineering / Development has a great future. Even if some people dey japa, that will create more opportunities for those wey remain. I know that people are looking for opportunities to emigrate to US or Europe because starting pay for Developers/Engineers can be between $55K to over $100K. Who wouldn’t want that?

God will keep us alive till next year, come back and quote me next year after the election.

I know devs will still be in much demand even here in Nigeria, I'm just talking of the condition of living at the moment, and the possibility that things will get better. We haven't talked about the messed up security situation of the country.

So I don't plan living because of higher pay as a foreign Dev, govt taxes will still suck a whole lot of your income. I just want to leave because of peace and sanity of mind. I don't really fancy abroad like that, I may still reside in a much safer and better place here in Africa(that's if there still is)

kunleiky:

But you were just asking him questions and he was answering you na?
You're not comfortable with his opinions?

He wasn't the one I was asking questions.

I've been asking tensa questions, go back and check my posts on this thread

tensazangetsu20:


You are a big joker . Good bye.

Leave that guy

He talks like someone that's well informed, meanwhile he knows nada

tensazangetsu20:


As horrible as Nigeria is, it is easier getting a remote job as a dev in Nigeria than a dev in Rwanda, We abuse payment systems in Nigeria. These other countries have completely none, zero, zilch. You have no idea how completely a lot of African countries are till you travel. To even use an android smartphone is a luxury in a lot of these countries and thats where you wanna work remote.

Omoor ×1000

tensazangetsu20:


When I was looking for my first dev job, I used to check how the job market in other African countries were and honestly aside South Africa, Nigeria has the highest number of vacancies out there. A lot of jobs we look down on here in Nigeria you won't even see to do in these countries. Africa is doomed. I knew this 2 years ago when I was job hunting. A whole African country will have only 80 jobs. A village in Canada will have 10000 new jobs lol.

Well, if I'll be relocating to another African country, I'm not hoping to get a job there. I should have been working remotely with a company in the west.

I'm just looking at living at a place that's nice living conditions, low crime rate and have stable power supply.

tensazangetsu20:


Rwanda is a very poor country. Despite all the hype, Togo is a much richer and better country than Rwanda. Rwanda's per capita income isn't even up to 600 USD. One of the ways to know a good country is to go on LinkedIn and search for jobs available in that country. Rwanda has less than 200 vacancies for the whole country. That's to tell you that there's nothing going on there economically. Even if you start a business who do you sell to? Most Rwandans don't make up to 500 USD in a whole year. The country is also landlocked. Their neighbours are also in a state of war and chaos. Avoid, Africa is doomed!!!!

Mehn!!!

I just dey read scores about Rwanda for travel section, e be like say Wetin we dey read about Rwanda online na just publicity hype

AngelicBeing:
I agree, a quick addup to what you posted above, the Rwanda Constitution has been amended and Kagame will be in power till 2034, and it is silently been echoed that either his daughter or son-in-law will take over from Kagame

Rwanda is owned by Kagame, Kagame is like a small god / idol in Rwanda, nobody, l repeat nobody dare utter any negative things against Kagame, German Ambassador was sent packing because RIB intercepted a correspondence were the Ambassador called Kagame a dictator and Kagame ordered him out of the country

A Nigerian called Mr Bello who was solely incharge of supplying catering services to all airlines entering Kigali was set up on spurious allegations, arrested and detained for 3years, he died and his corpse sent back to Nigeria (only the Nigerian Ambassador was allowed to see him in detention before he died, the Ambassador said this to me one on one at his office and I confirmed same from other consular officials, the horrors I heard going on in Rwanda scared me to my bone marrows)

Again, all the big businesses in Kigali is owned by Kagame via proxies, the Hutus are waiting in the flangs for a comeback to power, several opposition members / military personnel of Hutu extraction are in neighboring East African countries waiting for the slightest opportunity to comeback and overthrow the crook called Kagame

Rwanda is militarised, from 2 to 3 pm daily you see police men with AK 47 in almost every Junction all over the country, in the night, heavily armed military personnel are posted all over the country, citizens are docile because if you talk, Na straight to jail.

I am able to say all this because I am not in the country and l am anonymous, the small project (uncompleted vacation home) l have their is already in the market, l will sell it off and not step into that country again.

I see a LIBYA kind of revolution in the future, Kagame is just a joker, masquerading as a Democrat but he is a deadly killer, he is actually called the BUTCHER OF EAST AFRICA considering his antecedents and the number of people he has killed before / during the Genocide and now...

Lastly, all the information above concerning how they killed Mr Bello and other big investors from Nigeria whose investment were taken over by Kagame is not in the news and the few Nigerians in Rwanda are not even aware of the news but I got all the information from the embassy, Abeg Rwanda no be am, go to Rwanda and invest at your own risk

Chief, what about a techie working remotely? would you advise a programmer to move there?

tensazangetsu20:


Africa is doomed for the next 100 years. We should have used globalization to build our economies. Countries are becoming protectionist now. Look at the trade wars between US and China. We don't even have the skills to build stuff. Our populations are largely uneducated and unskilled. There's no hope for Africa, just save yourself.

Do you have any idea about Rwanda, a couple of folks who've gone there have said really nice things about the country

tensazangetsu20:


Yes o, things are very hard in Ghana. Inflation rate is like twice ours. Serious unemployment and a host of economic issues. Their government is also very broke. I schooled in Ghana, when I gained admission a dollar was equal to a cedi. When I left, one dollar was equal to 5 cedis. Right now its 8 cedis to one dollar. 800 percent currency devaluation under 10 years. Africa is doomed even South Africa has serious economic problems at the moment and thats the best country in Africa

Omorr

@pansophist your attention is needed here.

Pansophist talks a lot about Ghana and Ivory coast being good African countries to migrate to. I never knew we were all in this deep shit together

tensazangetsu20:


Ghanas economy has completely collapsed. They went to IMF to seek a bailout. Me I am just stacking up coins, if the worst happens I will move to south america and claim asylum, from there find my way to a much better country.

Ghana economy has collapsed ké

Omorr!!!

tensazangetsu20:


Dude should enter unilag and he will see devs with leetcode counts of 1200+. Japa is on everyone's mouth. Nigerian is completely doomed. Once tinubu wins the next election, complete economic collapse for the next 100 years.

Omorr na my why I wan die for this coding thing.

Let's all be realistic here, tinubu will most likely win this upcoming election. If that happens mehn, I dey carry myself go Ghana jejely, dey there while I plan the Much bigger move.

Nigerians never See suffering yet. Buhari own na rehearsal

Save1soul:


Exactly bro, I feel I might not get another girl like her.

I've said it before and I'm saying it again, nobody is indispensable. No matter how useful or precious a person maybe, if such a person misbehaves, he or she will be replaced perfectly by someone who's much more valuable and more precious.

Even if someone is one in a million, we are more than 4 billion persons on earth today, that means there are about 4000 of such persons out there. So, why fear you won't get someone like her. You're worried you might not get a toxic Nigerian babe like that yeye girl you call girlfriend... oga no fall my hand na

Are you having self esteem and insecurity issues, maybe that's why you're scared of leaving her and you possibly think you won't get another girl or what? Because I don't understand some so-called creation of God

tensazangetsu20:


He already knew a programming language. Knowing a programming language is completely different from learning frontend or backend tools.
You have to know a programming language very well to learn dsa. I recommend python because it has heaps. Java has heaps but too verbose. JavaScript doesn't have any heaps if you get a heap question you have to build a heap in JavaScript yourself. You can use books like grokking algorithms to learn the basics and start solving questions on leetcode and hackkerank till you get good.

Oh! thanks chief

tensazangetsu20:


Lol the Indian guy is just now learning html and css for his internship. He spent all his time learning algorithms and design patterns. Well it depends sha just get job you fit start with that html and css then when you get job you start dey learn those dsa cause dsa fit take you more than 2 years to get good. At least to be earning some money during that period. I don't know your situation. If your parents are very well to do and rucb then it's wiser to learn everything to get the high paying role but if you are from a poor family it's better to learn something that can give you a job at least and you can start learning the core things in that job. Imagine you dey learn dsa or design patterns and laptop spoil and You went through serious pain to even get the laptop

Hey big chief, I'm trying to incorporate DSA into my self taught learning journey, but it just seems like one need to have a sound knowledge of coding before one can hop into DSA. I know you mentioned an Indian friend of yours who learned DSA before moving on to programming, and like what you and some other tech folks have said here, it's possible to learn DSA without having to go very deep in programming. So, what course or learning platform would you suggest I start with if I want to start learning DSA. A whole lot of DSA courses talks about DSA with python, JS, C++,Java and the likes. I don't any core programming knowledge yet, but would like to start learning DSA early enough. So, your input on how best I should start will be appreciated, I will be able to navigate the rest once I begin.