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You need to study Daniel 9. God has a calendar for the salvation of his people Israel . But the church age was not in the calendar, even though the world is involved too. The church came in because Israel lost their place. The calendar is suspended now. Church age was an interruption . Maybe I will give my sumary of the calendar later. A run down comparing mat 24 with Daniel 9 and revelation. The church will not be in tribulation but the Jews will be. Because it's their calendar.

You being to ignorant of basic Islamic knowledge, ALLAH sent Mohammad PBUH, the greatest emancipator of mankind, to deliver his mesasage and spiritual guidiance to mankind. To but it simple, Prophet Muhammad PBUH came to guide man to the right path so that we may make it to heaven. and to crown it The message is simple Worship ALLAH! and hold fast to his Laws.

LIAR! THE SIMPLE QUESTION IS WHERE DID YOU READ THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT BREATHED LIFE INTO HER, NO THIS TANTRUMS OF FURSTRATIONS DUE TO MY REJECTION OF YOUR LIES. I WONDER HOW SWEETNECTA MANAGES TO KEEP UP WITH THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR.

KEEP PAYING LIP SERVICE TO WHAT JESUS SAID. NA U GET THE KOKO OF THE MATTER IN ISLAM BAD INTENTION ARE NOT COUNTED AS SIN UNLESS YOU ACT THEM OUT, IN FACT GOOD INTENTION ARE COUNTED AS GOOD DEEDS EVEN IF THE INTENTION IS NOT CARRIED OUT . BECAUSE ALLAH WANTS US TO SUCCEED UNLIKE WHAT U CLAIM THAT BAD INTENTION IS CREDITED AS AN EVIL DEED WITH NO PROVISIONS FOR COUNTING GOOD INTENTION RELIGION OF FORGIVENESS INDEED! hISS!

KEEP CREATING NON - EXISTENT SCENERIOS AND FORGET TO HOLD UNTO THE LAW - Jesus go deny this gracers, And as for miaming in the name of religion, we read the OT sanctioning with when God? tells the children of Isreal to wipe out entire community, I wonder why you did ask God to go and do his fight for himself? U are very laughable, punishment should be left for God, go tell them for Kirikiri Prison make dem free all them inmates and make we no het police to dey arrest theif and see how long you will live in that kind of Lawlessness, are you a anarchist out to tear down the Gorvernemnt and its measures of Law and order! pls you can do better than that in terms of thinking. " A Sinful and adultrous generation seeketh after a sign"

What Laws are you telling ME to hold on to? That of Moses, Jesus, or Mohammed? Did Jesus maim anyone or command Christians to maim anyone? Some of us are not scared of Religion being wiped out because GOD IS NOT IN RELIGION! GOD IS IN THE HEARTS OF HIS CHILDREN! A sinner remains a sinner, ablution does not take sin away! Only true repentance in Jesus takes sin away!

Like I said, would you accept for your child to insult his elders all under the guise of correcting them? would it be Ok if you child calls you woman instead of mother? or ask you wetin join me and you together? Pls we expect simple honest answers not this gymnastics you are doing.

So you wiser than the God in the bible when he authorize the Jews stone people for adultry? You are very Laughable indeed!

Just as it is clear from Christian that God changes his ruling from the OT to the NT? No? You so called Grace where is it in the OT. we read in the OT that people siply tried to live a righteous life while The NT you and Paul are lying on Jesus that he died for your sin, isn't that a change of Policy? You make claims taht point back at you. And like Jesus told a young man " Just keep to the Commandment of God" just do as Jesus said keep to the commandment of God and Heaven will be added to you. again did jesus say :Verily, verily, I say unto you, except your righteousness exceed the righteousness of the scribes and the pharisees, you shall by no means enter the kingdom of heaven, If you like ignore Jesus advise and follow Pauls fanciful laziness and see where you will end up a word is enough

Then answered Andrew: "Now how shall the truth be known?" Jesus answered: "Everything that conforms to the Book of Moses, that receive you for true; seeing that God is one, the truth is one; whence it follows that the doctrine is one and the meaning of the doctrine is one; and therefore the faith is one. Truly I say to you that if the truth had not been erased from the Book of Moses, God would not have given to David our father the second. And if the book of David had not been contaminated, God would not have committed the Gospel to me; seeing that the Lord our God is unchangeable, and has spoken but one message to all men. Wherefore, when the Messenger of God shall come, he shall come to cleanse away all wherewith the ungodly have contaminated my book." Chapter 124

Sweetnecta:
And God is not the Author or Revealer of the Bible. Even the Jews who are your bosses in salvation, according to your Bible dont even believe that the Bible is from God.

The Muslims did not say anything new here.

The bolded is just one of the points I was making to Onaolamipo! It seems he is still a 'moderate' Muslim and does not see the 'Bible' through the spectacles you and many NL Muslims see it! He needs a few more Quranic lessons, in arabic, perhaps! Even me the 'unbeliever' knows what the Allah says of the 'books' courtesy of sweetnecta, vedaxcool and co . . .   . . and there's been a bit of chrislamherbing (we'll see the herbs part when the 'ayelala' peeps start claiming too  ) behind Onaolamipo's back too: The Holy Spirit is now part of Islam and Mohammed is now in the Bible  . . . . .

Onaolamipo:
Everybody  believes that both Quran and  Bible are from God.[/b]While Bible came before quran. But in Quran it was revealed that some followers of Jesus christ (ISSAH in Quran) believed that he was son of God.
When Quran came, he let us know that God has no son  Q: 112 verse 1-5.
God also told us in Quran that He created Jesus as he created ADAM. Both had no father. He said, it was by His command ( be and it should be).
God does not tell lies.
We, muslims believe in all scriptures of God.Either Quran or Bible.

Pls point where or who claims that ALLAH purposely sent Muhamasd Pbuh because the Jews killed their prophets? or is this one of your usually conjector you build of Islam? Muslims have lond asserted that ALLAH sent prophets to different nations of the world to give them guidiance it is you christians that view God as a sought of For Jews Only Being. Remember quote where you read that crap from.

Where did you read in the bible that the holy spirit breathed Life into her? You are in the Habit of formulating doctrines from nowhere just like your Oga Paul?

Just as it is clear from Christian that God changes his ruling from the OT to the NT? No? You so called Grace where is it in the OT. we read in the OT that people siply tried to live a righteous life while The NT you and Paul are lying on Jesus that he died for your sin, isn't that a change of Policy? You make claims taht point back at you. And like Jesus told a young man " Just keep to the Commandment of God" just do as Jesus said keep to the commandment of God and Heaven will be added to you. again did jesus say :Verily, verily, I say unto you, except your righteousness exceed the righteousness of the scribes and the pharisees, you shall by no means enter the kingdom of heaven, If you like ignore Jesus advise and follow Pauls fanciful laziness and see where you will end up a word is enough

Are the Insult Jesus did part of Biblical teachings? or what is your problem with poisoning, If you have poison issue go to a clinic for solution. Like I said Jesus insulted his elders----By calling them adultrous--would u accept for your child to go around calling his elders all sorts of names be they true or not? like would acceppt for your child to call you a Liar or adulrous since you seeketh after a sign? and even called his mother woman and added insult into injury by saying what joins you and me together, this same woman that suffered insults on his account, I hope when your child calls you woman and says what joins you and me together it is all good and acceptable to you?

But yet you claim only if you belief Jesus died for your sins will you make it to heaven, now if that isn't God sujecting himself to religion and wonder what that is to your double speaking ideas that you parrot.

What kind of god insults People to and fro? and even his mum? But this question are too difficult for you to answer as the implication is very grave indeed? I won't like to see you write it is alright for your child to insult his elders. Joshua mudering Children is very Ok to your forgiving Christian heart? Hypocricy is very much a diesease. Again Jesus insulting his elders in the bible is very Ok by your standards? This is very Much pathetic. To you one form of evil? is very much justifyable but when it invovles other people it is very bad, this kind of behavior is called Hypocrisy.

DevotedOne:
[Center]Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allah, The Only GOD, The Most Merciful, The All Merciful. As salaamu 'alaikum; The peace be upon you, everyone.[/Center]

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[I]Copies of[/I] Barnabas' gospel must have been destroyed as there is only an Italian and (part of) a Spanish translation available.  Prophet 'Isa [Jesus, PBUH] spoke Aramic, a dialect of the Syrian language. So, where is the Syrian, Aramic, et cetera, translation's? 

The Gospel of Barnabas is alive and well.  You cannot deny that fact!

Seyi should tell us if only the jews are to have prophets or if she wishes all prophets must be Jews? I know that Adam, Enoch, Noah (AS) being prophets were not jews, because they did not have a tribe and the jewish tribe was not in existence until much much later. if you will call Jacob a jew and I'm sure you will be wrong because he is the overall father of the children of Israel, from which the tribe known as jews emerged.

They fail to see that the Jews Killing Jesus also meant that Jesus was not of God. Shikena. Since the Jews usually kill prophets to confirm that they are not from God, would Aliarstears sorry alethia agree that the Jews confirmed beyound reasonable doubt that Jesus was not sent from God since he was not only tortured but Killed and made Jesus die shouting My Lord My lord why have thou forsaken me!

this piece takes the cake of all absurdity. seyi, when you have a child, whose baby it is? who bedded you to get pregnant? What function did God perform in either your beddings and that bedding that got you pregnant with the baby?


what function did your husband, Mr. brown perform? who is the father of the baby? or you are making it into a jest like what the woman will do to a eunuch tell him he is the father of the new born so that he can provide for something, while the father is watching the ridiculous joke? it is true that God has no religion that He observes. however He gave a specific religion for man to observe in obedience to Him, starting from Adam to the last man on earth. You will not see God changing in His Ruling. Truth is truth. False is false.


The people who observe the religion of truth from Him will find Mercy from Him. The people who do not observe the religion of truth from Him, instead rejecting it and rejecting the Ruling of God will find no Mercy from Him, if He Wills it.

the jewish prophets; moses just killed none jews because they were not jews. that makes it better for you now? the Jewish prophet killed people just because they were disbelievers. thats makes them more grand to you? Muhammad (AS fought people because they rose up with forces in their hands to stop Islam. watch this; even you christian sometimes say it was just a phase before the first christians actually became christians since new testament must reign over old testament.


now we will talk about moses who beif we are going to talk about jews the first possible jewish prophet. Moses did his killing by direction of yahweh and jesus for about 40 years between egypt and next door canaan probably killing everything that moved including domesticated animals and even trees because the wind blew their leaves. how about joshua, all the way to the son and grandsons of David?


Now imagine if the egyptians were to serve moses food? imagine if the jebusites were to serve moses food? imagine it the amalekites, the hitittes, the people of jericho, etc were to serve moses food?

which one of the word of God was jesus killed for according to your belief between the two; Oh God, Your servant jesus who You Oh God sent or Jesus is partner of God? Note seyi that I am sure you will not answer. and if you get the empty courage to answer, the one you rejected is not word of God, making the bible and or NT a corrupt book.

how is it that you recognized our Mother safiya (RA) and then said that her husband (AS) cursed "All" jews? does that make sense to you? I'm sure that it may be possible that your husband does not agree with every person in your family.

if he is angry at that person, is he angry at you, as well. even though he will bed you later or just did few hours before? Among the children of Israil, we have believers and we dont call them jews. the majority of them are disbelievers who are called Jews. Muhammad (AS cursed disbelievers; Jews and Christians, and others, just like Allah Curses them in the Quran for disbelief. Again, while you just make blanketed accusation, Yakubu Gowon married an igbo woman in the middle of the war.

conveniently, jesus didnt forgive a tree instead cursed it, didnt forgive the thief on the left. neither of them recognized him and he didnt introduce himself and performed miracles to show his power. sorry i forgot he said he was powerless. and as to Muhammad (AS), it is written in surah Imran that prophets came and gone, and in another Surah that all soul must taste death.

Muhammad (AS) knew that he was not going to remain on earth because from birth his father was not alive. while only 6 his mother died. his grandfather who took the reign of parentage died later, living him in the care of an uncle who died before Hijr. Muhammad (AS) in all accounts knew death will come. then when surah Nasr was revealed he knew the time was near.


His community knew; uncle Abbass (RA) cried when the surah was revealed and Abu Bakr (RA) cried when the prophet spoke about a slave choosing to go to Allah rather than continue to remain on earth. i often wonder the fact that jesus begged and Muhammad (AS) and Jibril (AS) begged God are not enough proof that God is the Only One in charge?

Jesus Shouted " my Lord My Lord why have thou forsaken Me", after the JEws according to the bible dealth severely with him pls compare him with all other Jewish prophets and ask why didn't they Forsake God as Jesus had done accd. to the Bible?

Moses also cursed the Jews over and over again so cut the crap.

Jesus never knew what hit him? accd. to the bible we read of how he ordered his Disciples to get swords and Jesus even defended himself in Court when he said " my kingdom is not -----" in the presence of Plato and in the sehadrin Court jesus again said " If I have spoken evil ------" In the Presence of ALLAH jesus said " let this cup pass over me" in otherwords God save me.

Jesus insulted his elders----By calling them adultrous--would accept for your child to go around calling his elders all sorts of names be they true or not? like would acceppt for your child to call you a Liar or adulrous since you seeketh after a sign? and even called his mother woman and added insult into injury bty saying what joins you and me together, this same woman that suffered insults on his account, I hope when your child calls you woman and says what joins you and me together it is all good and acceptable to you? eh! We know this is more than you bargin for.

Again why is it so easy for you to tell Lies? You said Jewish Prophet did not Kill? come on you must be listening to the devil's temptation to lie where everybody can see it? As Joshua11:14 -
14 And all the spoil of these cities, and the cattle, the children of Israel took for a prey unto themselves; but every man they smote with the edge of the sword, until they had destroyed them, neither left they any that breathed.
18 Joshua made war a long time with all those kings.
20 For it was of the LORD to harden their hearts, to come against Israel in battle, that they might be utterly destroyed, that they might have no favour, but that they might be destroyed, as the LORD commanded Moses.
21 And Joshua came at that time, and cut off the Anakim from the hill-country, from Hebron, from Debir, from Anab, and from all the hill-country of Judah, and from all the hill-country of Israel; Joshua utterly destroyed them with their cities.

There are many more from where that came from. Again should I consider you Ignorant of the bible or Just out to Lie so that aqccd. to paul God glory abideth? Shame indeed!

Joagbaje:
@Seyibrown,
Matt 24 was a Jewish prophecy. He wasn't making reference to the rapture but rather he was making reference to the second coming of christ which event will take place . 7 years after the rapture. When Jesus and us will come from heaven to fight for israel.