₦airaland Forum

garfield1:
No you are getting it wrong.no officia result states that obi won rivers.state official result sheet is form EC 8E showing tinubu won.what shows obi winning is irev results which is secondary.primary result which is top copy or hard copy or inec manual copy of ec8a polling unit results shows tinubu won

no I think you maybe wrong on this in the highly disputed obio akpor LGA, according to report from inec obi won for real.

garfield1:
Oga,the evidence act and the electoral acts presumes that elections are regular abd substantially conducted in compliance with the law.a petitioner must prove otherwise

let me give you a little task if you don't mind, in Rivers state inec official result slip, confirmed obi won rivers state yet it was called in for Tinubu, can you use the evidence act and the electoral act to explain this Rivers secenrio.

muykem:
You have zero knowledge of our law. You can ask some legal practitioner around you that I said our law presume that INEC has done the right thing and declared right candidate winner until otherwise proved.

how can the law presume that inec has done the right thing when it's own results sheets from Rivers clearly stated obi won, yet inec called it in for Tinubu, this isn't about the law, this are the judges manipulating the grey areas of the law. You talk about my ignorance of the law yet no one has been able to justify this particular event that occured an how inec was right, your only argument that would be slightly acceptable would be even if the rivers result was called in for obi, it wouldn't have made him win, but then again my argument is not that obi won, it is the process that brought in tinubu was flawed, morally, legally and statistically, if we can't agree on this as a nation then we can't move forward honestly.

muykem:
Your thinking process is tend towards morality which is not legality. Our law presume that INEC has done the right thing and declared the right candidate as a winner. It is now left to challengers to prove how the won the election. The burden of prove rest in the shoulder of petitioners and not respondents. That's our law for now.

the law did not presume inec has done the right thing, it was the judges than presumed wrongly or corruptly, and the judges are are not a law unto themselves, how can you explain a process where a candidate wins a state with the producure endorsed by the law and yet inec gave the vote to somebody else without explaination. This is more than just morality it's also about legality. Inec has never provided a legal process on how it came about those numbers.

tolue42:
Brother, the blur pictures on irev maybe due to too much camera lightning when some the of agents snap the election results from poling units.

The actual results submitted manually ( thesame paper snapped) was what INEC used to compute results manually, NOT the irev results, this is where most obideints are not getting it. Don't mix this together.

That was the position of the Court, INEC staffs or agents only uploaded on the irev, out of 176,000 + guys who uploaded for INEC throughout the polling units across Nigeria, 18,000 people who made mistakes does not supposed to mar the outcome of the whole Election so far they submitted the original copy..


Just like if I should snap my certificate and send to someone, if the picture I sent is not that clear due to the environment I snap the picture, that does not affect the HARD copy with me. Just a simple logic

I get this your point, what about the discrepancies e. g the rivers result controversy another issue is inec also failed to give access to election materials in totality to petitioners.

muykem:
I don't want to insult you. I also agree with you of blurred poling units results. Why is Peter Obi computation of final results after removing results from those poling units that shows he won the election.

my take is neither could tinubu and inec prove how tinubu got over 8m votes, forget the idea of weather you are obidient or batified for a moment, this is statistics and the numbers need to tally and the process in which you get the numbers also matters that's why in mathematics when there is an equation to be solved you don't just bring out any number as the answer, what makes an answer correct is the process you used to arrive at your answer, if inec is saying tinubu got 8m votes right now there are thousands of blurred polling unit results which inec obviously added to the tally of the winner does this not damage the entire integrity of the election, in Rivers state for example Irev results and even independent observers like the BBC did a recounting and discovered obi actually won rivers state yet inec called it in for Tinubu, how did inec come about their numbers? What process did inec use? For the tribunal to downplay this issues a trivial just shows you the bias, I am not saying just hand over the mandate to obi because he needs to prove he won, but neither has tinubu or inec proved how tinubu won or how he got 8m votes.

Nice speech has never developed a nation, show me the speech of the leaders that made Dubai, china, Singapore and others to rise from the bottom to become what they are today, does our reality as a nation give any sign of a nations that wants to improve, you can't go out there and be demanding for dignity for Africa and Nigeria, when Nigerians can't have that dignity in their own country. If there is one thing thing to take away from the speech, it is that the president has great speech writers that's all.

Addme:
It's clear that People's Gazzete ilhas an agenda if not how can an outlet spew just utterly misinformed junks they call reports.
They will soon meet their match that will sue them without looking back

he stole clients money, then he was suspended for years, when the suspension expired, he refused to renew the license, this was the original information the gazette reported, trying to run PR for gbajabiamila is not a bad thing but if you must tell the story you must tell it from the beginning. It is corny to just talk about how he failed to renew the license and intentionally leave out the part he was suspended and for what reason he was suspended

bluepreek:
Why would a parent hate on his child's success?

Na only parent wey wan suffer for old age go behave like that.....

not always true some parents are well to do, especially those who have made a name for themselves, they don't necessarily need the wealth of their kids, and especially if that child decides to live outside of the spotlight of maybe a controlling parent.

theophorus:
Children reasoning.

Except his definition of godfatherism is Thuggery, Hard Drugs, Fraud etc... You should realize that none of those stuffs end well.

But in real world of Business and Work, you need that person who will give you opportunity to show yourself to the World.

Only let your dealings be legit and avoid fraud in every way possible and avoid Evil people and fraud people and violence people.

godfatherism has many meaning but in Nigeria of course everyone knows godfatherism equals corruption, it is a negative word, I see you talking about the business world and career world, and about opportunities, I think the more appropriate word for that should be mentorship, there is big difference between a godfatherism and mentorship, one has a positive Outlook the other negative.

garfield1:
It is not enough sir.the school must specifically state in court that the certificate tinubu presented was forged which they won't.
The fbi records will come out after the apex judgment

not true if the copy the school release as the only certificate they issued to tinubu does not correspond with what he submitted to inec then it means automatic fraud on tinubu's part, it will then be his job to defend the one he submitted to inec by getting CSU to specifically state in court that the one he issued to inec is also genuine as you know that would be impossible.

greatman247:
Tinubu has always been a scam from time to time. He will never change. I pity those that still believe he knows what he is doing. This niggah is a bloody thief. Clueless and confused as ever.

Imagine the idiot gave N5Billion to each states for palliative. How on earth will that be enough? Multiply that N5Billions into 36 states in Nigeria. That is N180billion total. And the idiot claimed he has saved a trillion naira in few weeks that he removed subsidy. My question is where is the rest money? The man has stole it as usual. And since then till now it means Nigeria has several trillions saved from subsidy and yet he released just 180 billion naira. He would have empty Nigeria after 4 years

this is so true, from several trillions saved per month since may till this moment just 180 billion is being given while several trillions are unaccounted for. So pitiful.

Tinubunomics 101, the NNPC borrowed billions of dollars to stabilize the naira yet nothing has been heard from them, can we all now agree that Tinubu is a scam. obviously the old man has nothing to offer except to loot and embezzle with his gang of thieves, you can't be playing trial and error with the economy.

When we say japa we are talking about legit travels not fraudulent migration, because when folks try to discourage others from travelling they always come up with this kinda tales.

Nigeria isn't into city landscaping or architectural design, we barely have a direction as a nation.

Is the vice president mentally challenged? I find it shameful when govt keeps inflating the cost of governance through senseless appointments how many aides does one need? What are they aiding? Can't these leaders think for themselves why appoint so many aides ? Even the aides that are being appointed don't even have professional knowledge in the various portfolio they are being given, this is just political compensation nothing else.

What a nation, one way to identity a nation with a positive future is based on what and who you reward, you see how this criminals are able to reinvent themselves in Nigeria, and how they rise to the very top. If he can comit that crime in a nation where there is high risk and rule of law, imagine what gbajabiamila is doing now in Nigeria where there is no resistance to corruption. God knows I don't have any hope for this nation.

Isokotolopia:
Yoruba lokan,

Same yorubas that went to GEJ to complain of marginalization despite constituting 35% of the appointees

one idiot here sometime ago, said the reason the south west didn't support GEJ for second term was because the south west was sidelined and I wonder how, even during buhari's nepotistic regime the south west still got more share aside the north from buhari.

pquaver:
Edo no be Lagos... True true..
Where are those that deceived edo people? They have left edo people to their fate!! This what happens when u follow people and make decisions out of hate and bitterness..

so we should have listened to tinubu and allow a notorious political criminal Ize iyamu to become governor, we should have voted a man who oshiomole had previously criticized and called a criminal, we should have voted in a man because Tinubu said so, our mumu never reach like that, maybe in Lagos that would have been ok, when Tinubu ask you all to jump into the lagoon you don't ask questions, Edo might have gotten it wrong with obaseki, the alternative being presented by the Apc was also the same but one thing we proved that we the masses are the king makers not some drug lord, or ex governor, if we made a mistake with obaseki we can correct it, not waiting for some druggie/ king maker to decide for us or make the mistake for us.

koiki4bat:
that one say jubilation all over Newyork. Agbadoism is truly an incurable disease

😂😂😂😂

LegendHero:
There are Yoruba and non-Yoruba tribe in Kwara. You have Yoruba, Nupe, Bariba, and Fulanis.

what about the other guy the minister of state for youth? Shouldn't this govt try and reduce the cost of governance that we have always complained about, why do you have a minister of youth and a minister of state for youth, this is just transactional politics.

complexstuffs:
Una do start again.. Reading meaning into what was not implied like the silly notion that Abuja residents are superior to other Nigerians

What that section is saying is that having a minimum of O'Level or higher. Most job interviewers are not interested in your O'Level if you have degrees

ok 🙏

DeLaRue:
I can't speak to whether Mr Tinubu attended primary or secondary school.

But you might wish to know that there are established pathways to college admissions in the UK and the US that doesn't require any previous (primary or secondary qualification or even attendance).

So, I really don't see how Mr Tinubu's case should be different.

What is important is that he claimed to attend a college and a University in the US. If ongoing investigations confirm he did, that should be the end of the line of enquiry about his educational qualification.

If someone graduates with first class, or even third class, why o why should I be interested in the primary school he attended.

Infact in the UK, when applying for a job as a graduate, you mostly don't put details of your primary or secondary school in your CV unless there is a particular attribute relating to those early years that you want to bring out in your CV.

Once you graduate, most employers are simply not interested in the primary school you attended.

The fixation of many Nigerians on irrelevant issues is baffling.

this case is dicey, by my knowledge I stand to be corrected though, the law clearly states that to contest for the office of the presidency an individual must have a minimum of O level certificate, if tinubu does not have this shouldn't it be illegal irrespective of wheather he attended the university or not, it's just like jamb before you can sit for jamb you need Five O level credit either in waec or neco, if you have a Microsoft certificate or have won a Nobel prize, I don't think you can even sit for Jamb let alone getting admission into a Nigerian university.

ElSudani:
Your criticism are insincere and illogical.

how is the criticism insincere? He removed subsidy and talked about saving trillions of naira, and deploying palliative to Nigerians, yet the masses hasn't received any form of palliative when they became clueless they gave each states 5billion naira each, when he knows just how unaccountable and reckless state govs are, till today how many Nigerians have received the so called palliative? He just did that to absolve himself from blame, and 5billion for each state how many citizens can that take care of, 2. Killings have resumed in southern Kaduna and other parts of Nigeria yet the president hasn't even addressed this killings I guess he is just going to continue from his predicessor's where killings were being downplayed and starved of media attention by the govt. 3 he talked about wooing investors yet the fundamental issues that led to investors leaving has not even be addressed expect for the tax reform he claims to be trying to fix, forgive us if we aren't swayed by the India trip, we have seen it all with buhari. 4 his govt is bloated one of the major cry of Nigerians has always been the cost and duplicity of governance yet he appointed 44 ministers when even the US being the largest economy has about 19 secretaries or so, 5 his ethnocentric tendencies looking at his recent appointments you can't argue this fact, his supporters always talk about competence, was this not the same line buhari used to justice his ethnic nepotism, among all his appointees none is outstanding and irreplaceable yet majority of key positions are given to his kinsmen.

tishbite42:
Enjoy yourselves
Make God remember me make I leave una comot

I swear I need to follow comot because this idiots are so comfortable with their lives played like a chess game.

NotProphet:
He is not the cause of Buhari
The propagandas and lies against his govt championed by the south west from the home of Tinubu brought Buhari
And the fact that the northerners felt cheated because to them, after 8yrs of OBJ, a northerner is supposed to rule for another 8yrs but the death of Yaradua changed everything.
GEJ was not supposed to contest 2015 election. The handwriting was already there from 2011 election that the North were angry.
I just pray nothing happen to Tinubu. We may likely witness the toxicity of 2008 to 2015 if Shettima is to assume power as the president. But the Southern part is not united
All these constant fight and attacks between the igbos and the yorubas need to stop now.
We all from the South need to unite.
The yorubas are in power, they are representing the entire South. They are supposed to be championing peace and unity of the South not trying to make the igbos the scapegoat.
If by mistake anything happened to Tinubu(God forbid), the SW will learn a bitter political lesson when the north grabs power and refused to release it

this is one thing these agbado fools don't know, if that time ever comes I swear those of us in the south south won't defend this ethnic presidency filled with hate, Obasanjo knew the game he never alienated any tribe, honestly during the pdp's leadership we never had this
level of ethnic divide.

iammo:
He went all out to select the best and it yielded results, I wish Yaradua never died.. and the tempo was maintained without Jonathan and Buhari



.

but you and your fellow agbado brothers, always praised and defended buhari even to the very last day in office.

seunmsg:
We sabi the people wey get the sub. The people wey get the sub sabi themselves. But we are all going to pretend like we don’t know 🤣🤣🤣

agbadorians can be so foolish Sha, Reno's boss, atiku, is the one who is challenging tinubu's result in court yet he is throwing shots at obi and his supporters who do not believe tinubu graduated, yet the idiot has never criticized atiku, who also doubted tinubu certificate, and who started the whole court proceedings challenging tinubu's result, yet agbadorians are hailing him like he is their hero, in the kingdom of the blind a one eyed man is king.

Ode reno

mayorlag:
I graduated from a University in the UK years ago and was issued a certificate which I scanned to keep a softcopy (I do with all documents). I misplaced the original and requested a new one from the same university, paid the fees and was issues a new one by the same university in the same year and signed by different people.

I think that the question should be and remain "Did he attend and graduated from the university?"

Note that I have no political affiliation to anybody but want to share my knowledge and experience.

there are so many questions wheather or not he graduated from CSU is one of them, the bigger question everyone seems to be ignoring is the certificate he submitted to inec is it original or not, if it isn't then he committed a crime, it matters less then if he graduated from CSU or not. A fake result is a fake result nodody cares then even if you graduated from Harvard.

Kilometres:
The problem is why are you so intentionally daft?

CSU confirmed that Bola Tinubu not just that...they stated clearly under oath in a deposed affidavit that Bola Tinubu the President of Nigeria graduated from CSU.

So why would a confirmed graduate retort to Oluwole? Use your brain sometimes.

this your argument is really insensitive, it's just like catching a thief and later realizing the thief is from a wealthy home, does that absolve him of stealing? If tinubu had indeed submitted a fake result to inec then he committed perjury it doesn't matter if he graduated from CSU or Harvard.

gloriaaghoski:
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