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A thought-provoking approach to the understanding of the meaning of the Qur'an. Learnt a lot from this, especially surah Al-Fatha, reading it now makes me reflect more on the messages it carries...Iyaka N'abudu Wa iyak n'ast'eenu was my favorite, the need to struggle on our own part before seeking assistance...then ihidinaa sirata-l-mustaqeem, the importance of guidance and the importance of repetition wow Jazakumullah khayran bro.
Sura Baqorah was amazing, from faith to hypocrisy and forms of hypocrisy, the wonderful similitude Allah(SWT) uses to make His message clear...narration of the story of Adam(as) and hawau was revealing, after being told by shaitan(la) that his destination was earth from the onset he never protested,was never angry but seek forgiveness for His lord a true submitter to the will of Allah. i think i will still need to come back from time to time to reread this thread InshAlla.


Eid Mubarak To you and family

looking forward to resumption date InshAllah

^definately!

olawalebabs: Lets be fair with our Shy brother, most of this comment about them is not 'fair' on them. All of us no fit be 'sharp' guy.

are you shy?

after going through some posts about girlfriend and boyfriend issue, i decided to write this little writing of mine, perhaps it will help someone in a positive way inshAllah amin.

Ha! Boyfriend and girlfriend is Haram!
You should have seen the look and expression on the faces of the guys that were present that faithful day.
Funniest or I should say, pitiable enough, it was during the days of ramadhan, during one of the question and answer session after the main tafseer of the day at the university’s mosque.
You will even hear of ridiculous questions asked, like; can my Christian gf cook for me during ramadhan? I was like what?! Are these guys for real? True that, these things happen within our society; may Allah [SWT] guide us amin.

I was an undergraduate, filled with zeal for the deen, and wouldn’t want to indulge in haram. I was quite aware that bf/gf is haram in Islam…but wait a minute, the university is such a good place to meet your spouse isn’t it? You can easily learn about all the criteria (you know your list na) you want to know…once you’ve got an interest in a person, you’ll definitely know if the person comes to the mosque regularly, if h/she attends program and participate actively, does h/she have a good character and is the person friendly, even you can find out her CGPA! lol

Well I was really concern then about nikkah (don’t blame me o, some of us tey for house small before Allah said mashAllah, its your time). Once you get to final year, na so such thoughts go dey flood your mind, especially when you are around brothers who keep on pestering you about it, quoting Quran and Hadiths praising its virtues (actually, some of the brothers did get married while in school).

Basking in this thought of mine, doing solo research, from one website to another, from one Islamic literature to another on the subject matter…then came another lecture, held within the campus and the topic was; zinna! Come see guyz for campus just dey murmur, dey sigh as the lecturer was dropping
different kind of bombshell…oh Allah, forgive your slaves and guide us aright amin.

The ustadh said, if you like a sister and the sister likes you, go to her guardian and seek permission, no bf and gf, no courtship for studying purposes…you are either married or engaged.

Case closed! Make your independent research about your prospect, talk to the person, if h/she agrees Seek permission from guardian you are now engaged then start planning your nikkah!

PS: Actually the quote below is from the book of the late sheikh Ibn Abayomi (rahimahuLLAH); Islamic spirituality: essence, deepness and vastness, cos some brothers can be very funny and some sisters too…
“…So, if you want to marry a sister please, be well sure she can sustain your faith and if you want to marry a brother be well sure he can sustain your faith. But if you are already in it, as I always say,”do not disappoint anybody.” It is not Islamic. It is your jahiliyah, you have to pay for it. You have in jahiliyah, met the wrong person; and you have in jahiliyah, agreed to the wrong person. There is no Shariah that will tell you to break the relationship, in as much as he or she still say La ilaha illa llah. The only thing is to correct him or her, because in islam there is no courtship. This is what the sharia says. If you date a woman in Islam- “I want to marry you; I love you. i…this; i….that all these nasty lies that a man tell a woman making her comfortable to divulge some of her secrets to you, teasing her, and at the end of the day you find a better match and you attempt to switch over to your new discovery as if you are on the electricity switchboard, switching from one line to another line, I swear by Allah, it is haram. If anybody has given you the fatwa to abandon a sister for another sister, when that sister has never committed any major crime, it is wrong fatwa. Allah says: “Even as he is now, so were you yourselves before, till Allah conferred on you His Favours.”(Q 4:94). Both of you were in jahiliyah before, and now that you understand, both of you should assist one another, bring her up, bring him up. This is the best thing to do Islamically”

deols: this second part of your post takes me back to the reason I started this thread. Before then, there were so many other threads on relationship issues with guys and ladies alike asking questions. But those threads don't usually go before the first page. I decided I was going to bring out some of those issues, especially d ones Muslims feel shy to discuss, daring the consequences.

I was hoping we could get to actually talk about how exactly to approach other people and what could constitute as wrong and right. I dont think we specifically did that. I have heard girls say things like, oh God, why would he approach me like that? the first impression simply matters!! and a shy guy would just give d first impression of being a weakling...


So, how do you talk to a girl??

"my brothers don yarn facts o, but some get k leg lol"
@bolded, well, shy guys do have issues though, sisters sometimes complicate the issues too...you see a brother go through proxy so as to make his intention known, the next thing, the sister feels he isn't man enough and mind you, some brothers are just being modest or didn't know better how to approach a lady.
personally, i find it very embarrassing to walk-up to a sister on the street and start talking or meet a sister in a bus and start talking for the first time. i believe the person i wan to approach must be known to me for quite a while, we live in a society where we mix-up whether in school or within the community we live. so i must have found a specific characteristic aside from the Islam which might make me want to meet her and talk.
since it is not haram to meet her one-on-one(in an open area), me do not subsribe to the proxy thingy, use your own hear take hear the good or bad news. the fear of rejection that comes with doing that should not deter a shy person since your intention is pure.
Now how do you talk to a muslimah?
very simple, infact this should be the most simplest thing(unfortunately, we have been brainwashed by the movies and books we read). as a brother, you must be sound islamically and academically...your communication skills are very important too...choose your language wisely o. The most important thing first is to ask if she is already engaged(make you no go dey waste saliva), we all know the hadith of leaving what your brother has already subscribed to. then the next is to make your intention known the best way you can.
now see where brothers dey fall my hand o, you have seen a sister you like, before you make your move, make dua(Istikhara),that is why i don't subscribe to someone i am seeing for the first time, cos dua is very important in the matter of a muslim.

deols: @ bold, ehyaaaaaaaaaaaa. hmmn!

On a serious note, I dont think there's anything wrong with finding your mate here but sha do all those things wizeman wrote up there and meet them face to face before falling o. make u no come enter one chance.. I remember a girl who was crazy about an online friend. hmmmn! after the holidays, we were expecting something! but mehn! the girl was speechless..lol

@bolded, hmmm...i don't want to be tempted to ask for further details...i csn just imagine the shock lol

deols: hehe!!



any shy man doesnt deserve d lady I cant stand shy men. on a personal level sha o.

Stop laughing jor, Nairaland islamic section is a good place o! Only that the sisters are not forthcoming...wondering why sha
Shy muslim brothers are being modest and are full of respect for the female kind, following the sunnah... Erm when it comes to nikkah tinz, i think they need to loose the shyness and "manup" lol.

olawalebabs: No, why do you ask? I've been hunting on this thread for more than a year. Lol

I dont know why o, but i thought you were, now i know better...now i am watching you closely lol...
Did you just say 1yr?! Ha, hmmmm...i think our sisters are shy(very good attrib)...have faith bro. Allah's time is near mashaAllah.

olawalebabs: That i why i wrote, the choice of PLACE will determine the success or otherwise of the relationship.

Yap thats true, sorry, my eyez skiped...
Hmmm just curious o, are you married?

Its so funny that thos castigating this man as being a bigot are themselves lousy bigots.
Rather than carefully decipher the response this man has given and ask relevant question regarding important points raised, some are here labelling him all sorts...
He said "i sent one of the most senior staff who incidentally happens to be an igbo man and a catholic to represent me and the consulate general" the question is, who is this person? Did he attend in such capacity? If we know this person and his name can be found maybe on the register or something then case closed.
Again he clearly stated he didnt say he will never enter a church...you know how we easyly give our own interpretation to a person's statement cos we already have a preconceived opinion about that person which i think is the case here. I believe the author of the article claiming he said so, misquoted him.
There is a difference between attending meetings, witnessing baptism or wedding ceremony and taking part in a church service. He must definately be fasting and sees that taking part in such religious service "might" affect his fast maybe the reason he sent a representative.
Cut the guy some slack he aint a bigot like some christians on NL bashing Islam ignorantly.

@maclanttunji you got me really laughing man, and your disclaimer, you go fear fear na

olawalebabs: Back to the question. You can find your partner anywhere, but the place you them them will go along way to determine the success or otherwise of the relationship. Youth Forums is the most commonplace to find them sha.

Brother not anywhere o ha, it should be a decent gathering or venues. sure youth forums are one of the common place, universities, workplace and on nairaland too.
I'll also like to add, if you are shy and cant chat up a lady, Alhamdulilah! we've got our Sheikhs, Ustaz, Imams, Amirs and Amirahs to help out, but if you get mind, you can go solo, no shaking just make your intention pure and sincere.

Omo Alata: Someone I knew got married during the ramadan period but he was a tight-fisted git and he only married during that time because he did not have to supply food and drinks. After the ceremony, we all went home. Everyone threatened to come back after the fast but he said the marriage was in the morning and was over!!

Na wa for dis kin person o, at least the person should have provided fruits for his guest to break their fast when they get home. its really bad to invite people to come and celebrate with you and you don't treat them right. The prophet (SAW) said whoever believes in Allah and the last day should honor his guests.

tbaba1234: May Allah guide this ummah... Where are the men of this ummah?

We are here o but sleeping , may Allah help us take-up our responsibilities and emulate the best of mankind (SAW) in regards to our women amin

tbaba1234:
We have to bring revealed knowledge and worldly knowledge together again... We have to make it happen... that is the future of the ummah... We have to do it...

Absolutely right, the youth in the universities should endeavor to include in their intentions that this course i am studying, apart from wanting to make a living out of it, i want to also use it to serve Allah, to help the ummah. This will go a long way to bring back the Islamic consciousness lacking in some of our educated adults.

Ma shAllah, may Allah save of from hypocrisy amin. Good work bro, keep it coming, may Allah continue to strengthen you amin

You guyz need to chill o, for every product, there is a target, there is a niche in which i am sure the management have in mind. not every product is meant for you. Those who feel it is demeaning, derogatory, mockery etc, buy anoda thing na cos, i am sure there are those who dont care and will ask for the "hungry man pack" with a smile and swags.
Make i go inform Adamu on a double, unto Hungry man pack levels...

tbaba1234: Ayah 4 (cont'd)

Why sequence?

Iyyaka naAAbudu wa-iyyaka nastaAAeenu – It is only to you we give ourselves totally and absolutely in slavery and worship and it is from you alone we seek help from after putting in efforts ourselves..

So why did Allah use this sequence? There are a couple of beautiful benefits..

1. Our primary purpose of life is to worship Allah and to enslave ourselves to Him, We need help to help us to that. The primary task is mentioned first before the secondary task. Iyyaka naAAbudu first then iyyaka nastaAAeenu.

2. When we worship it is for the sake of Allah, when we ask for help, it is for our own selves… (Keep this in mind)… What you owe Allah should be mentioned first out of respect and what you want for yourself should be mentioned last… You are secondary… What Allah wants is primary….

What Allah wants comes first, What you want comes second…

Are you making haram money and asking Allah for help? Are you cheating people and asking Allah for help? Allah comes first. Satisfy that first..

Don’t come to Allah on the 27th of Ramadan when you have not fulfilled what Allah asked of you the entire year….

You have to be doing your job first before you have the guts to stand before Allah and say Iyyaka naAAbudu and make sure you are doing your best before asking for help iyyaka nastaAAeenu …

If we really honestly do that, then we are beginning to understand what fatiha is and what fatiha is supposed to do for us as muslims..

Why iyyaka nastaAAeenu?

We asked Allah for help but help with what? There are several benefits of this

i. Allah already knows what we need help with..

ii. The list is very long… we need help with finances, health, family, business, job, salat etc… We need help with everything… The list would have been too long so we just say help…

iii. Imagine you are hanging on a cliff; about to fall; what do you scream? Help, no time to add anything else.. The third implication of just using help is that it is call of desperation

iv. The principle of proximity, we just said that we are going to enslave ourselves absolutely to Allah, this is not an easy thing to do so we seek Allah’s help to achieve that…

The first thing to ask for help for is how to worship and enslave ourselves to Allah. Of all our needs this is the most important one.

To fulfill this duty, we need instructions and this is why we ask for instructions next… This instruction is the most specific kind of help, all the other things we need Allah will cover… Allah gave us this one thing to ask for because if we get this one thing right all our problems will be taken care of… The one thing we ask Allah is that guidance… This leads us to Ayah 5….

End of Ayah 4

Subhanallah! How i wish i can always bring this to the fore whenever i pray... With this interpretation, a person who truly seek to worship his creator will definitely be guided. I think every Muslim should internalize this and work with it perhaps, all these issues of this sect, that sect will be resolved, for Allah(SWT) will guide one to His true worship.

tbaba1234: 1. Ar rahman and Ar rahim are experienced in this life by the believer and remains in the after-life... Every second we experience Allah's rahma, ... The believers and the disbeliever experience Ar rahman; We all breathe in air, have sight, hearing etc, we all benefit from mercy.... The disbeliever does not experience ar rahim unless he becomes muslim and if he dies rejecting faith... ar rahman expires for him... Ar rahim is permanent for some people... Ar rahman will expire for some people... May Allah protect us....

We can not truly understand and imagine Allah's mercy or wisdom... Remember the story of khidr and Musa in the Quran....

2. It is not a tajweed issue, there are 7 dialects used to recite the Quran right from the time of the prophet, 1 dialect reads "maalik" while the rest of the 7 dialects read "malik" in the very first chapter..... They are both correct...

Do not worry, there is a lot more to come in the next few ayahs insha Allah...

Alhamdulilah, Jazaks for the clarification.

deols: @bros Sino, na wa o..so because of furniture u wan go for hausa bride ehn? If it was for the beauty I for support u o..

my sister, no be so o, i just liked their simple way of doing things ni o, unlike the yorubas with so much effizy and razzmatazz.
On a serious note, i believe there is nothing wrong, in fact it should be encouraged, whereby the families of both the bride and groom come together to render support for the couples(not the support of buying cow and drinks for the ceremony), especially if they are already due for nikkah but having difficulty of accomodation and other basic needs.

Brother may Allah reward you with aljannah firdaus amin.
Concerning Ayah 2, you said its not possible to imagine both Allah's Ar-Rahman and Ar-Raheem. Can someone experience them both in this life? For example those Allah specifically selected for His message or like those sahabas given the certificate of Aljanah.

Ayah 3, this is where all muslims should always pause and have a really deep thought on#me dey vex small o, the tin too short na, its like you left out some gist...
My question is regarding Malik and Maalik, using the former wouldnt it negate the tajweed that comes with reciting that verse?

^i hv modified my post u quoted, i be guy o lol. No mind my grammer o

^ok, i think i get it bro, using universe or worlds will include created things which are not included in the relationship this surah tends to portray...
Waiyakum, looking forward to next ayah...

Me don confuse o.

hmmm, so na misinformation i don dey carry up and down sef...perhaps its a culture to certain parts of the north and not the entire north. Well sha, most important is Allah provides for us (husbands-to-be), so as to take care of our household amin.

^^^are you serious? I was also of the opinion that their nikkah ceremonies are always cheap o xcept for the rich and political office holders o, wey i don dey dream of Hausa bride lol. I also learnt that the bride's parents provide housing or is it furniture and interior decor Abeg how true is this o?

Without doubts, there is a great difference between learning the Qur'an and the pondering over its meaning. The later is what Allah always calls us to, but we hardly find time to sit and ponder over this miracle of miracles.
Brother, may Allah reward you abundantly for your efforts in bringinging out the truth of the message of islam amin.
I once heard or read sometimes ago that the more you dig deep into the Qur'an, the more you find new things that blows your mind and subdues you. I have found that to be true, thus dispels my thought that the past shuyuk of the deen have done more than enough in terms of almost all branches of knowledge in islam.
"aalameen" some translators use the universe to depict the meaning and i so much tend to agree with them cos it encompasses everything living and non-living...i would say, this goes to show that Allah is the master of all that exist, what we know of and what we dont. Since 'alam is the word used, and from the root word "'alima" which means to know, we can extend it to convey all that exist within which only Allah knows.
Indeed, surah fatha is deep, may Allah preserve our lives as i look forward to subsequent posts Inshallah.

^SubhanaLLAH!!! Wow! This is realy something i must say...may Allah reward you for this insight you've just given me amin.
Lol@ arabic is "1080p" HD.

This is very interesting, the arabic language is one of the most beautiful language in the world...
I never knew understanding proper arabic would'nt give you a proper grasp of the Qur'an as the ancient speakers do, but i think i'll definately concur due to the ancient poetry during the pre-islamic period and even during the islamic era, they were full of statements although they seem simple but carry deep and heavy meanings. Ancient arabic would mean classical arabic right?
Honestly, my arabic is still basic, and have become rusty due to lack of speaking it for a while...i always see the use of complicated derivatives of the three letter verbs in some ancient poetry which makes it difficult to understand as well as the idiomatic expressions and riddles. Another aspect of the poetry that also makes it difficult to decipher is the arrangements...
To your question on suggestions, i think i would want to say the man refers to himself as the home on the hill(makanin 'aaliyah) even though he is poor but still sees himself generous(a high state of mind) and the wife as the heavy rain(saylu) who is not getting along with his state of mind therefore would'nt understand him...Another suggestion is that, he refers to generosity as home on the hill(makanin 'aaliyah) which cannot be affected by the afflictions/problems i.e heavy rain/flood(saylu)...
Tbaba1234, is there more verse to this poetry? I think it might help with the meaning of this verse.
So whatcha think?

ma shALLAH, may Allah make it easy for you and reward you for your efforts here and in the next life amin. Looking forward to your subsequent posts.

Jarus: Isn't this mockery? Or is it me? What's this about?

Of islam or the superheroes? I dont think so bro. Although the dressing of the superheroes negates islamic code, definately not acceptable for solat. I think its just the handywork of a funny cartoonist (probably a muslim) who loves these superheroes. I for one loved most of these superheroes while growing up(perhaps i still do lol).