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maddock:
Hey Sir_John where have you been? its really been long its only Kunleoshob thats been visible lately.

@maddock
I've been around but not on NL; dont worry, you'll see more of me soon.
Thanks

he opens the thread, reads through, shakes his head, laughs and then logs off!

AlpOm:
oops! I actually meant that you are way WORSE.

That means he is way BAD huh!!!

AlpOm:
you are as greedy and as selfish as the person you condemn.

Oh yeah! at least you agree that he is greedy and as selfish ,  Thanks

Tithes, offerings, firstfruits, partnerships, seed offerings and all other illegal means of extortion are evil and baseless. I have no regrets since I turned my back to all these lies. I have mind blowing testimonies that have since accompanied me.
I am proof that Gods blessings doesnt only come as a result of tithes, offerings, firstfruits, partnerships, seed offerings e.t.c but by grace, diligence and hardwork.
He who has ears, let him hear!!!

selencious:
Not You, To the Poster!!!

Thanks!! He who has ears, let him hear

Joagbaje:
The point is ,It was not every sick man jesus met that he healed. but he came to set the captives free.
Mark 6:4-5
But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. [5] And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

Jesus said lazarus sickness would not lead to his death, but the man died and jesus wept.
John 11:4
, " When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.

Acts 3:2-8
And a certain man lame from his mother's womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple; [3] Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms. [4] And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us. [5] And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them. [6] Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk. [7] And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ancle bones received strength. [8] And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.


this particular man was brought daily to the gate , how many times did jesus pass there but didnt heal him.
Jesus saw several people at the pool of bethsaida , he healed only one of them! (john 5:2)

Call jesus fake prophet for saying lazarus would not die.

The healing as we are told by poster is a place people are taught on how to recieve by the word. I have people that Have been healed there. Some even recieve healing before pastor chris lay hands on them. some still need more faith to be ready. Eve jesus cant work miracle without your faith!

If you went and didnt recieve, you go through the classes again but for you to come out with this kind of condemnation, your heart didnt really believe. you went in with critical mind. its like saying "i dont beleive but lets see"

You are getting things mixed up here, you cant rate a man based on what he did not do but rather on what he did or has done. Neither you nor I know why Jesus did not minister to the man at the gate or even the hundreds of impotent folks at the pool but one thing remains clear and that is that every single person he ministered to got healed. How dare you say Jesu didnt get 100% result based on what he did not do?

Joagbaje:
A healing minister may not get 100 percent result because several things are involved. How strong the annointing is, the faith of the minister and the faith of the reciever and the grace of God. Jesus did not get 100 percent result either . Some of us have loved ones that have been healed by these ministers. so if 2 out of 100 , celebrate the 98 that got healed and pray for the minister but dont condemn for the 2 .

Liar! Liar!! Jesus always had 100% result contrary to the crap your pastor must have told you. He never laid hands on anyone who didnt get healed; the scriptures below comfirm that.

Mt 4:24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.

Mt 12:15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;

Lu 4:40 Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them.

Lu 6:17- 19 And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people out of all Judaea and Jerusalem, and from the sea coast of Tyre and Sidon, which came to hear him, and to be healed of their diseases; And they that were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed.
And the whole multitude sought to touch him: for there went virtue out of him, and healed them all.

KunleOshob:
Sir John how now?  how have you been? you have been missing on this forum for a while i am sure your brethen from CEC would have missed you dearly on the forum .

I'm fine Kunle, I've hardly stayed put in one city since the last 4 months. Thanks for your concern

its over 12 months and counting and I still stand by my words: these men are charlatans, crooks and fraudsters

Image123, donnie is only spewing out the confusion he has heard from Chris, what do you expect?

Everybody get him own for body. Some time ago, Chris came up with the 'Spirit and the dove' message, where he categorically said that it was WRONG for ministries to use the dove as a symbol for the Holy Spirit. Before then, several of his publications like 'seven things the holy spirit will do for you' clearly depicted the Holy Spirit as a dove; the logo of the 'Haven' had a dove conspicously in it. The books were later published without the doves in them and the Haven logo was changed.

Now lets assume for a moment that Mr Chris was right, does it mean that all the while he had the dove thingy in his publications he was doing WRONG? Which means there could be many more issues he may have gotten mixed up now which some day maybe changed or maybe NEVER.

hubreality:
John, you've come again with these sentiments of yours. The topic is worth discussing for better enlightenment to anyone who actually walk in faith. It shouldn't be turned into a battle field now.

Yeah Hub, I've been quiet for a while now but sometimes people like donnie have to be put in check. Here he is talking about some preachers message when I can as well list several heretic messages and statements from his own pst.
How you dey jare?

Oh shut up donnie, your 'pastor' is as guilty as the several lot spewing out damnable heresies.

Its ok Hub, I got the HDD and my lapi is back to normal; I had to go to Ikeja myself to get it.
I left Lagos on monday, I'm somewhere across the Niger.
My regards!

Hi Hub, maybe we should start from me and you; we have scores to settle. You've already created an impression, I'm sure you don't want it to remain that way.

No long talk ok, just tell us what u were healed of

@horse703, I can see you have itchy fingers, it happens when you're new on nairaland. My advice: take time out and study various posts and posters, when you're through then you can come back for a more mature discussion.

horse703:
what do u mean the truth have u actually ever listened to the man, have even read yr bible no studied it before, i personally dnt judge the man with appearance bbut on wht he teaches and if u study yr bible u know that that is the truth it is not about christembassy, it is about the word of God and praise God miracles follow this word as well as persecutions from people such as u because as long as my understanding goes from the word these are the two most outward sign that a man is from God. HE IS TRUE STUDY THE WORD FOR YOURSELF PLEASE!!!!

horse703:
hello sirjohn what do u say to wht my reply

I have not judged him based on appearance but on delibrate staging and faking of miracles. If there is anyone who needs to study the Bible, it is YOU cos nowhere did the bible mention that miracles fake or real authenticate a mans ministry.

On a more serious note binhozie, you can check out this link:
http://www.searchingtogether.org/articles/oconner/slain.htm

Are you sure you really want to? Ok here are some tips: Go and touch the public power supply cable feeding the step down transformer in your area if that doesnt work, come back for another tip.
Lol

@donnie, in your die hard attempt to be loyal to CE, you have been blinded or maybe you're just pretending to know what you're doing.
It has always been my opinion even while still a member of CE that the campus fellowship (BLW) needed to be 'purged'. Most of the campus 'pastors' and leaders almost never graduate as they almost never have time for their studies. The level of immorality in BLW is both shameful and disgraceful; from one university to the other, its one scandal to the next.
Is that part of Mr Chris' impartation?

dezobo:
finally, if u have anything to write to me, u can direct to my email, zobowashington@yahoo.com. i am not always on nairaland, so i will never read ur response or the response of any other user on this thread, God bless you all, and i hope we change, and stop condemning and criticizing people if we really want NIGERIA to be good, God bles you all

@dezobo,
what happened to the statement in bold

@dezobo,
Its easy to talk volumes when you are looking from without. May you, your family and loved ones never fall for these charlatans in Jesus name!

Happy Birthday! Wish you many more 26th June's. Will call you later tonight

Pepeye:
As for you John, try feeding your self first before attempting to feed someone else lol . .

I noticed you re very empty in all ramifications

Well pepisco, some others like you on NL said the same things until we met.
its called L-E-V-E-L-S
Till then!!

P_e_p_e_y_e! Need I go over it again? I'm sure you've read my testimony on the loveworld thread; or do I need to buy you lunch too before you soji?

You know nuffin!

You wish!

'Heavenly Father, I cannot thank you enough for plucking me out of the midst of these deluded freaks.
Thank you for the courage to accept truth and the boldness to expose falsehood.
I will forever be grateful Lord'