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HardMirror:
Lol
You guys just keep amusing me.
This story is 100% true. Azo I mentioned in part one surprisingly showed up later in the thread we exchanged mails and he gave me his current phone number and we spoke. We would be meeting at ikeja soon.
The brother dan I mention now is a missionary in india. He is a son to Rev ogundare and he studied electrical electronics. Rev ogundare is based in akure and has his house at Futa south gate and he is very popular. Many futarians have sent me PMs and we have spoken. All this happened between 2007 and 2012. 100% verifiable.

I am not insinuating that you don't exist or was never a pastor... I haven't yet finished your story but a couple things do not even add up the slightest.
but continue before you catch witch for my head.

Image123:
^^if I may ask, you've not talked about your faith,your becoming saved or born again experience. Would be interesting to see. So far, you've painted the picture of a religious person, just saying.

its a cliché with all of them... I often don't know whether to laugh (at them) or to cry (for them).

So then, we may no longer be children, tossed [like ships] to and fro between chance gusts of teaching and wavering with every changing wind of doctrine, [the prey of] the cunning and cleverness of [c]unscrupulous men, [gamblers engaged] in every shifting form of trickery in inventing errors to mislead.

15Rather, let our lives lovingly [d]express truth [in all things, speaking truly, dealing truly, living truly]. Enfolded in love, let us grow up in every way and in all things into Him Who is the Head, [even] Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).

16For because of Him the whole body (the church, in all its various parts), closely joined and firmly knit together by the joints and ligaments with which it is supplied, when each part [with power adapted to its need] is working properly [in all its functions], grows to full maturity, building itself up in love.

17So this I say and solemnly testify in [the name of] the Lord [as in His presence], that you must no longer live as the heathen (the Gentiles) do in their perverseness [in the folly, vanity, and emptiness of their souls and the futility] of their minds.

18Their [e]moral understanding is darkened and their reasoning is beclouded. [They are] alienated (estranged, self-banished) from the life of God [with no share in it; this is] because of the ignorance (the want of knowledge and perception, the willful blindness) that is [f]deep-seated in them, due to their hardness of heart [to the insensitiveness of their moral nature].

19In their spiritual apathy they have become callous and past feeling and reckless and have abandoned themselves [a prey] to unbridled sensuality, eager and greedy to indulge in every form of impurity [that their depraved desires may suggest and demand].

20But you did not so learn Christ!

kolawaxxy:
You don't need to add salt and pepper to this story. The unnecessary informations and digressions make this story sound like a fiction

you still don't believe its fictional?

is this really a dream or what? p.s. you wan tremble in joy before?

Cornido:
Please brothers and sisters in the Lord, why is it that people snap their fingers when praying some specific prayer points such as.....binding/casting, praying against enemies etc. Does the snapping of the fingers make the prayers more effective or is it just out of habit?

some do it because of the "intensity/burden" of the prayer and not any "special" reasons.
don't know about everyone though.

sade1994:
The gassing part is totally tru...... When I think of my roommates that year.. ..night bombers

and you wasn't a night bomber?

Jessicha:
tell me now

dear, that's where I was going. do answer the question(s)

Buharism:
whats your definition of a christian.

Antichrist alert!!!

tis a controversial topic

olasesi:
I don't know. And the specific number of the laws isn't a popular subject as are the laws. And if it's based only on the Qur'an, then their numbers are far less than the christian laws. Perhaps in the forty's, or even less.

you are reading him out of context

odijeks:
I haven't sir. the answers given are somewhat ambiguous and have question marks allover. can you help?

not really, I haven't read the Quran from cover to cover yet so my assertions might be wrong.
the ambiguity and question marks you are getting might just be what the said religion is about....
#imightbewrongthough

Glory, Glory Lord Jesus - GGLJ

yes it can

has the op been answered?

fireforfire:
Pls I had a dream about snakes. I was walking in a dark field in d middle of the night. I couldn't see around me b cos everywhere was pitch dark until I switched on my torchlight n discovered dat d ground was full of snakes of different sizes.
I kept walking n dodging them till woke up.

Yes, though I walk through the [deep, sunless] valley of the shadow of death, I will fear or dread no evil, for You are with me; Your rod [to protect] and Your staff [to guide], they comfort me.

draw closer to God in attending church meetings and personal fellowship with him.

analice107:
Alleluia. May the name of the Lord be praised.

Amen

Hala Madrid, at Madrid

MuttleyLaff:
Whatever floats your boat bro

and the question?

we are still being scammed by the west?

MuttleyLaff:
https://i57.tinypic.com/34sp9j4.gif
Smith Wigglesworth? SMH.
Bro don't even go there
Did you, with using ''^'' to reserve space, a couple of pages back, come here only to type this with Smith Wigglesworth fused in?

you think I could not have easily mentioned Paul, Jesus Christ or pastor Chris?

click like for man city to win and share for PSG to win.

MuttleyLaff:
Read below

Am not trying to be mean, not trying to hate, not try to be a smart alec but you dont speak in tongues

How this church you go or went to, teaches, is erroneous

a red flag should have raised up signalling a problem with ''they help you to speak in tongues''

And thou shalt be brought down, and shalt speak out of the ground, and thy speech shall be low out of the dust, and thy voice shall be, as of one that hath a familiar spirit, out of the ground, and thy speech shall whisper out of the dust
- Isaiah 29:4

Of course, satan has he's own counterfeit of speaking in tongues, aided by familiar spirits etcetera

Yes, if talking of the real gift of speaking in tongues according to 1 Corinthians 12:10

to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy,
to another distinguishing between spirits,
to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,
and to still another the interpretation of tongues.
- 1 Corinthians 12:10


cc posters Tjayjosh, sonofthunder, donnie, GoodMuyis and Peritus who so far had responded to your post

⁹Whom shall he teach knowledge?
and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?
them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
¹⁰For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept;
line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
- Isaiah 28:9-10

Wherefore the Lord said,
Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me,
but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
- Isaiah 29:13

''Precept upon precept'' in Isaiah 28:10 above, means:
the arranging or placing things in relation to each according to a particular sequence, pattern or method
(e.g. like maybe, on top of another, side by side etcetera)
That is the rule to understanding the Bible
(e.g. do an orderly arrangement of things relating to any Bible subject of interest like tongues guided by the Holy Spirit
and NOT following the order or arrangement, mentioned in Isaiah 29:13, laid by men)

Apart from repeating line upon line twice, for emphasis
''line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little'', this is self explanatory

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
- 2 Timothy 2:15

2 Timothy 2:15 is referenced above because the bible is a book of divisions
It is a book of division as it has parts for the Jew, Gentile and Church
there are some parts in the Bible where it speaks to the Jew and doesnt speak to the Gentile,
there are some parts, the Bible says to the Gentile and it didnt say to the Church etcetera

Having laid down the above (e.g. Isaiah 28:9-10, Isaiah 29:13 & Timothy 2:15),
now let's both start find out how much of 2 Timothy 2:15 you are made of

You enquired about the evidence of ''speaking in tongues'', mentioned Acts 2, 1 Corinthians 12 1 Corinthians 14, 1 Corinthians 14 etcetera,
and the below quotes which stood out like a sore thumb
''Now there is this other church I went to,
and what they teaches is that a sinner as soon as he receive Jesus can be baptised immediately and also speak in tongues,
which they also practise backing it with scriptures like''

1) Do you know that ''speaking in tongues'' or ''speak with other tongues'' as in the Bible IS NOT THE SAME AS what is widespread and generally accepted today to be?
2) Do you know why it was necessary that speaking with other tongues should occur when it occurred X amount times in the Bible?
3) Do you know what was the primary objective or goal for the time(s) that speaking with other tongues occurred in the Bible?
4) Do you know when speaking with other tongues occurred in the Bible who it was aimed at or meant for?
5a) Do you know, who or how many, on the day of Pentecost, spoke with other tongues? (i.e. give the number if not names or identities)
5b)What to your undestanding does ''speak with other tongues'' means?

¹³ Therefore, one who speaks in a tongue should pray that he may interpret.
¹⁴ For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays but my mind is unfruitful.
¹⁵ What am I to do? I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also; I will sing praise with my spirit, but I will
- 1 Corinthians 14:13–17

6) What is ''speaks in a tongue'' in 1 Corinthians 14:13 above all about?
7) According to GoodMuyis, three years after her conversion, his late Aunt was firing praying tongue, now with best efforts, give a demonstration, explanation and example of ''if I pray in a tongue'' as in 1 Corinthians 14:14a above
8 ) Why is it necessary that when my spirit prays my mind needs to be fruitful? (i.e. in relation to 1 Corinthians 14:14b)
9) Also give a demonstration explanation and example of praying in the spirit as in 1 Corinthians 14:15 above

²⁷If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret.
²⁸But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God.
- 1 Corinthians 14:27–28

10) What do you think of 1 Corinthians 14:27–28 above, does the church you mentioned also practise backing up ''speak in a tongue'' with scriptures like these?

Those 10 will do for now, so lets have a kit-kat at this point

do all Christians with the gift of faith operate same level of faith as Smith wiggleswort?

1 thread, over 100 pages, over 3000 posts, over 60, 000 views, and Jesus is being glorified.

shall we continue in sin and ask for grace to abound?

Jessicha:
and since you understand it than I do, why not explain the ops question to me ?

my sister, those who do not receive everlasting life, what do they receive?

April fool?

op. the wailers and haters will always wail and hate

flightz:
That was the message today about borrowing your tithe and paying back with 1/5th. Is it the 1/5ht of the tithe or 1/5th of the total income?

it means if the tithe is supposed to be 5000, you pay back 6000 as a form of redemption. you add the 1/5th to the tithe.
but personally, I believe we should try not to default in the first place (to obey is better than sacrifice). God bless.

cocoama:
I actually eat bananas often so it clearly is not working for me

I hope you passed this phase now.

God's not dead

Jessicha:
yes , but I need an answer to that question @ op

you seem not to be understanding the bible as you should