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Neoteny7:
Actually the world was less scientifically advanced in terms of medicine and technology, and also way less hygienic.

it’s not about science and hygiene now. If I don’t go out, will I have reasons to wash my hands everytime. The world had less freedom. So it was easy to follow laid down rules.

Neoteny7:
The world has survived worse pandemics, including the black death and Spanish flu. It's also survived asteroids, meteors, wars, and famine.

the world was more cautious, paid more attention to instructions, was less connected, had less will power and freedom like they have today. Just see how some people are condemning the stay at home order. When it was what worked for Chinese even if we claim they have vaccine.

maklelemakukula:
I also believe covid19 has been in Nigeria before February, but this news doesn't necessarily justify it, there is a higher possibility of the man being infected in Nigeria than having brought it to Nigeria and lived with it for over 100 days.

the strange thing about this illness is one can recover and develop symptoms later or die from another disease almost immediately after recovery.

The expression on these men’s faces means something serious is going on. Let’s stay home guys. It’s for own good.

scoundrel:
Hmm. This forum, sha. Nigerians struggling as gatemen in foreign countries will come here to post budget groceries to paint a picture of enjoyment outside the country.

bad belle oooo

You can’t last in Nigeria politics if you say the truth and are very blunt

olawalepopoola:
I totally disagree with you. Put black children with white children in the same class under the same economic and climatic conditions with free access to academic resources, you will find out blacks have higher IQs than white.
Why do the likes Okonjo Iweala excelled greatly at Harvard?

I didn’t say all whites or all blacks. I said most and majority always carry the vote. Seriously, until Africa is able to compete with other nations, I ll take it as they have a lower IQ

Prosperity answers to only one law: This is the law of giving. You must give to be prosperous and whenever you do anything, let gratitude go with it. I mean if you are giving, give with a grateful heart. This is why the Bible says God loves a cheerful giver. If it’s not with a grateful heart, it’s not complete
Now, you see why poor people don’t appreciate things. First, they don’t give. If they give, they don’t give with gratitude. So the two things necessary to be prosperous is missing in their lives. Anyone can be poor but you should not remain poor. We all have 2 forms of destiny depending on the path we follow: the path of life or the path of death. It is in our hands to choose what path. So being poor is not particular to anyone. They chose the path that leads to poverty. Whilst there will always be poor, know the type of relationship you have with them. The ones who are not ready to embrace the law of prosperity are not best as life partners. There is nothing wrong If you date a girl from a broke home with the giving and gratitude mentality this means she understands the reason for her poverty and ready to come out of it. However, most times our background is our default. Where we are coming from has a lot of influence on us. Humans remain in their default mode for a long time. We usually don’t like change. The popular mentality, this is how it is done, this is how it has been. Anyone who decides to change for the positive always come out better but the problem is effecting the change. So I say Let the poor date the poor and the rich date the rich.

But even in might America, the disease is still spreading and more deaths are recorded daily. This guys will be surprised how Africa will handle it should it get worse. It’s easier for a pandemic to be contained in a dictator environment than a free society. We see this clearly with China.

0m0nnakoda:
You think you know but you know demonstrably less than you think you do.
I never said Indians were illiterate.
IQ is not the same thing as intelligence. It is a formal attempt to measure intelligence developed by psychologists.
It has some utility but is limited and flawed. It was developed by Westerners from their perspective and so in intrinsically biassed to Western culture.
If Nature places you in the the Serengeti then your intelligence is directed to surviving threats from wild animals and nature. You would look at the ground and read that a lion crossed the path yesterday you would recognise the footprints, feces and sounds of different animals. You would know which plants to eat or not eat how to find your way without a compass. Those activities are "education " priorities imposed by nature.
The Inuit in Alaska would have their own peculiar experience and Challenges. A New Yorker would not survive in those places
There are no questions in IQ tests about survival in the jungle or other non Western cognitive priorities
There is no IQ test in my Yoruba language
I would refer you to research conducted among the Kpelle people of Liberia when IQ tests were being tested in the field
The researcher gave them a western based test and they "failed ' every single element. In frustration he asked
HOW WOULD A FOOLISH PERSON RESPOND immediately they changed and gave him all the " correct" answers he was looking for. Indicating that what was important to them was different from his.
Imagine if a New Yorker took an IQ test developed by the Maasai

The original question I asked about IQ distribution was not random it was quite deliberate because I am familiar with Phd level research on intelligence all Western. IQ tests are only useful albeit limitedly,within the same culture not across cultures

You seem to believe IQ is the same thing as intelligence hmm

You are the one who thinks material development is a measure of intelligence. I don't and so when I mentioned the North I was not saying they are less intelligent, quite the contrary

A people may decide their purpose in life is to live a simple existence taking from nature no more than they need for day to day survival while others may decide that they want to put men on the moon that does not make them more intelligent than the former

I love this! I find your last paragraph exciting. We can choose to innovate, develop and do new things that make living better. At the same time, we may choose to live on the trees like the monkeys do. It does not mean one is more intelligent than the other... Interesting! The fact here remains, man and animals look for a better way to survive. In the animal kingdom, some breeds of animals are considered more intelligent and able to do some particular task more than the other. This doesn’t mean one is better than the other. If you read to my post, I never said blacks were lesser or whites better than blacks. Looking at the message of this thread, I said whites have a better IQ. This is in relation with educational field this thread is addressing. When it comes to academics, the whites are considered more intelligent. However, there are a few things man has considered necessity in life, when a race does better than another in these necessities, wouldn’t you judge the former more intelligent? The whites are doing better in this things. This are the things that enables the “standard of living” paradigm. So the whites can be regarded as more intelligent.
I never weighed the intelligence in the north to material things. My point is their culture does not encourage education as it were, a reason they southerners are perceived more intelligent. This does not mean they cannot exhibit brilliance when it comes to their cultural display. Now when we talk education in Nigeria, the assertion that a southerner is more intelligent than a northerner may hold. This is same with my original post!

0m0nnakoda:
You are rude

The key issue for development is culture under which you can include religion

History did not start today.

The Chinese were developed thousands of years ago when Europeans still lived in caves. Over time they became complacent and lost their edge.
The Japanese write with Chinese letter anc were quite backward compared to the Chinese. They changed their culture and are world leaders today
The Indians were literate thousands of years ago but stagnated
The Europeans were once among the most backward especially the Northern Europeans when the Roman's invaded and occupied Britain

If you studied mathematics you would have encountered the influence of the Greeks the Greeks were so advanced at the time the New Testament was written in the Greek language.
The Germanic and Slavic people were considered barbaric at the time
Study European history to understand how they got from A to B and why we need to stop poisoning ourselves with religion
Today where are the Greeks ?
The point is that over time things have changed and they will change again
It is not about intelligence but culture.
Are we in the south of Nigeria more intelligent than the North?
The issue often is culture.
I really do not have the time to school you but you need to educate yourself

Of those innovations you mention only a tiny fraction of the population generate them it Is not sufficient to say the average white person is more intelligent.

Black people embedded in different cultures have been just as innovative.
Africans in West Africa developed innovations too for example variolatiion as a precursor to modern vaccination but the slave trade froze our development because our energy was focused on raiding each other for slaves.
If you have a historical perspective you would realize that the ultimate determinant of development has been the capacity to organize and deploy violence, military power not intelligence.

With power empires over history have acquired knowledge and technology by force,
The Iranians are one of the oldest and most ad advanced civilizations as were the Indians but when the Ummayad Caliphate emerged with Jihad it swept the region and took over.. Islam put Iran in reverse
What about the Jews with all their intelligence thousands of years ago they were dispersed

We are not stupid we will be fine,our time will come. Stop hating yourself.
We don't have to become European just reform the unhelpful elements in our culture and dispense with imported religions like Islam and Christianity

where did I say you are stupid? Or do you think you are. Your post confirms my claim. IQ is determined by a combination of many factors, education is one. Culture and education have a correlation. For instance you mentioned the north. I want to think the south seems smarter because of how they have taken education. Same goes with the whites and every other situation you mentioned. The more your culture enables factors that affect IQ, the higher your IQ. Yes if Africa step us their game, they can have a better IQ. If the whites become laid back, they can have a lesser IQ. The whites have continually improved on education and have found many inventions. The Indians you said were once illiterates stepped up their games and are leading in many professions today. As long as your culture is not enabling factors that promote IQ compared to other culture, you can be perceived as less intelligent. So what is wrong in my initial post?

0m0nnakoda:
Do you have evidence? What do you know about IQ?
What is the average IQ of white men?
How is IQ distributed in the population

stops asking silly questions. Is underdevelopment in Africa not a result of the IQ and EQ level of your leaders? Who are the major pioneers of innovation and inventions across the world ?

Matrix414:
So what becomes of a child that fails jamb 3 to 5 times and ASUU successfully wastes 3 to 4 years, thereby making the child to graduate late, you'll now start seeing job vacancies that not older than 26 years. 12 is on a high side. 10 or 11 years is ok

if you fail Jamb 5 times even at 10 or 9, you might still be more than 26. A reason for failure most times is because the individual hasn’t developed capacity to solve the questions presented, as he ages, he develops capacity. Like I mentioned, the 26 years limit is a very wrong standard which is not going to help our economy. You see children of rich folks graduate and get jobs before they are 21. They have little or no “life experiences” as it were and do not understand how it feels like being in other person’s shoes. Thus they come arrogant and insensitive at work places which may lead to non productivity of other employees. If this law is enacted, the government will have to look into the age limit criterion set by these companies.

grandlexuz:
You were talking sense untill you spoiled it with the whites have a better IQ.

on average a white man’s IQ is higher than that of a black man..it baffles me why many of you don’t like to hear the truth.

Donald3d:
This honestly makes no sense at all.
If you don't groom a child well in all facets of life, no matter how old they are they would misbehave

grooming goes with age. No matter how much you force a 7 year old. He might not be able to wash his clothes clean himself. Understanding times in life is very important.

haaaaaaaaa:
So that they will graduate and not have the opportunity to work in multinationals like KPMG, Accenture etc. Wicked human beings

this companies have set very bad standards but even with this law, many should complete their education and NYSC before 25. Whilst maturity is not a functional of age, some times the older the better because the older seems to have more life experience. Life experiences develops one’s emotional intelligence which is lacking in many work places. Don’t you hear this silly talk - my education is fast? Is education supposed to be measured by speed or quality? We all want it fast in this country. There is a process for everything. We don’t have to compare with the whites, they have a better IQ

Mynd44:
America is indirectly telling them to stay back. The conditions in Nigeria is better than what you are going to meet at home

which is better for them sincerely. Many of them are expats and the companies they work for will do the possible best they are fine here. Stay in doors since it seems it affects the whites most. If they need to get anything, it will be gotten and sent to them. The money is better spent here.

There is no advantage in marrying more than one wife oooo. There isn’t all. It will tell on your children. If you check the records in the Bible, the man who had more than one wife faced some family problems at sometime- Abraham, Jacob, David , Solomon. Isaac married one wife and even when there was problem in his home when Jacob stoke Esau’s blessing, Esau was the one who later went to look for his brother. He forgave. That the power of a single man and woman. Do you think if Job had more than one wife, he wouldn’t curse God. See what happened to Solomon. The devil is able to penetrate the family when a man has more than one wife. I want to believe this is why the New Testament envisages one man, one wife as the family is the foundation for the church. See God’s instruction for kings- Deuteronomy 17:16-17 New International Version (NIV)

16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the Lord has told you, “You are not to go back that way again.” 17 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold.
Remember we are redeemed Kings. Stick to the wife of your youth. Prov 31: 3 says do not spend your strength on women, your vigor on those who ruin kings. A prudent wife is hard to find to more two.

I think there will be less spread and death in Africa. Malaria kills many whites within days. Many Africans survive the toughest malaria parasite. One would think this virus would have spread and killed more Indians but it seems Indians have similar immune system with Africans. The poorest nations are surviving but the mighty falling. For some reasons I buy the sentiment that this was all planned out. China have loads of investment in Africa, they seem to have good bilateral relations with the continent so they decided to go this way. Well, all are just assertions, no facts!

gimakon:
You just day call money like say e day easy to fine, Like you dont even have a clear and complete understanding that this Nation just favours peeps who dances to the tune of say one politician or some peeps who has been in business before the present tenure.
I was a trader before i became a Software Engineer in a Bank today, with the total and several failures in Businesses , I even ran my own small software startup, only the frustration alone did not let me continue. Right now, i just decided to respect myself and focus on my own job and God be praised that is what has been feeding me now.

Except you are a politician stealing money or you run some form of business of Manufacturing, which is politically fronted ny Aliko Dangote or most top notch, 300m as you speak of is a daunting and a mirage as you speak of it. Please don't even speak of it outside, not everyone has that in their possession, blaming people who leave Nigeria should be thought of again, you want them to steal and be laughed at here on Nairaland or what exactly is your problem, when they can save and go seek greener pastures somewhere?

there was no where I blamed people who left Nigeria. Please read my post again. The problem people who mention me without reading my post and come with arguments that are not verified is that they lack attention to detail which affords them limited understanding. That said, understanding is very important in any endeavor so perhaps if you had paid attention to detail you would have don’t better in your trade. I don’t expect everyone to make 300 million annually. Many Nigerians won’t make that in their life time. I said if you make 300 million, you can travel to any country you wish to without restrictions. There are guys doing well. It all depends on where you want to look. Not everyone is connected to a politician. Business may not have been your calling and you may have only found your true self. Cheers

In every institution there is always one leader whose decision everyone follows, marriage is not an exception. The decisions are usually not just thought out by that same one person but a combination of many factors. Whist some men can be bad decisions maker, they are able to learn from experience. In the marriage, the decision maker is the man but you will find most times a happy man follows what his wife says. A happy man is one whose wife listens to him. It’s all simple. May God give us wisdom.

Had some fears initially but as the conversation went on, I became bolder.

Graxie:
Too many lies here, ignorant folks trying to sound great. Op, I am circumcised, married for 11years, have birthed thrice via vagina delivery. I climax during sex. I will start by telling you that you need to be patient with your wife while making love, just close to that supposed clitoris space, take your time and be rubbing their while you suck her breast, she will be wet, then you can gently penetrate, don't remove your hand, combine the three process, you will see she will cum. I allow different styles for my husband after I have cum, for me to come, it must be missionary position and just the way I described above. I squirt more than 4times, our sex last above 20minutes because he is good. It took me time to discover my husband, many before him where my nightmares, I hated sex until my boo showed up. I am forever grateful for the awesome sex I receive.

I like the post. OP did you see the patient part. Thumbs up

Merically:
My dear you may not get the true situation of things by asking this question in this forum because we Nigerians are suffering and smiling, we pretend a lot even when all is not well, we keep saying yes is ok. Ask people who pass through Libya desert they will still say it's ok. We Nigerians just have a passion of hating our dear country forgotten where we're running to is built by the people of that country who have passion for their country. When things are not going well in US, the citizens keep saying God bless America but here in Nigeria the reverse is the case. In Nigeria nobody wants to contribute their quota but only blame games, so the earlier we Nigerians realise to build a nation of our dream the better for the future of this great nation Nigeria. I have lived, worked and still working outside the country. Just my opinion.

God bless you my brother. This is the same message I have been preaching and a lot have mentioned him. Some even claimed I am lieing. Obviously because they are liars and living in denial. We live fake lives a lot and don’t tell ourselves the truth. Nigeria is bad but the truth remains only Nigerians can fix it. The earlier we start to realize this, the better. Can a whole family relocate.... never! Can a whole generation relocate ... never!

googi:
Let me start by saying Nigeria is the best place to live as a Nigerian but only if you have money to live within your means.

Most people in Nigeria at every level live and aspire to live above their means. This is why fetish crime have increased beyond our imagination.

Even people that made money illegally go on social media to flaunt it in the name of thanking God and "gifted". While others pray to God to pickup their calls.

Many people live abroad hearing gunshots night and day. Though not in as many area as Nigeria.

So you live abroad with enough money for three meals and more a day, nice car, nice home. In many cases far less people than you hear are fully employed. Most are under employed though highly educated.

Nevertheless, your job is under threat everyday, your life and that of your family are under threat for doing well out of jealousy or discrimination.

No matter how comfortable you say you are to those at home, do you tell them your blood pressure is high out of fear and threats?

Do you know that 62% of Americans have less than $1000.00 in their savings?

21% have no savings and most Americans live from paychheck to paycheck.

many will come paint a story and think it’s all fantasy. Day dreaming of acquiring a property abroad. Just got over the phone with my step in Us who has been there for like 3 years. Dude is still struggling to get a meaningful job, boasts how hard he is working and gets paid bla bla... summary of the call was to partner to start a business. I have an Uncle who is a citizen but lives in Nigeria. Each to his own. There is nothing better than being a citizen. Nothing can be compared to home. Everyone wishes to be buried at home. That’s how we are all created. Traveling out is not the ultimate, living in Nigeria is not the end of the world. Find your vision!

sirhamilton:
No bro, previously you boasted of having a passport with multiple stamps, right now I'd if be surprised if you had a passport to start with. You know nothing besides blowing your trumpet and that of your imaginary friends that do N300million per annum. If you're interested in educating yourself about how the real estate market in the US functions refer to Google.com.

ps: This will be the last response I'll let my brain cells waste on you. Shalom!

just as I expected. You had thought I would seek knowledge from you. I wanted you to tell me more of your foolishness. I started to imagine why going through my post would make you think I know nothing about securing a property in the US. Again, how easy is it for you to secure a property as a foreigner on a salary/ daily wage in the US? How easy is it? Stop making yourself feel good with lies and half truths you hear now and then? I will upload just of my passport, so folks like you on here will learn to read posts keenly before jumping into conclusions. Check the different dates of arrivals and departure.

Mcslize:
Check out the thread below. This is for you. Do you now see why Trump called this country a shithole?


This is one of the reasons people are relocating outta this country.


https://www.nairaland.com/5701120/sars-kills-tiyamu-kazeem-kaka

you are the shit he is referring to obviously.

79733139:
The guy is a troll. There is no point in answering him anymore.

do you even understand the meaning of the word troll. You guys mention me ... can’t you see you are all confused and living in denial

79733139:
You have no point.

possibly you were to dumb to understand.

VolvoS60:
^^^
Sure proof you were trolling. I'm surprised some other posters took the bait.

you would be surprised that those unlearned Alhajis with large farms in the north are worth millions of dollars.

79733139:
Lots of foreigners get it. For example, a tech worker that has a portfolio plus two or three certifications can get a salary job and after two years can apply for a mortgage.

In other professions, you will spend 1 - 3 years doing a form of "conversion" (writing the required professional examinations), then you get a salary job.

Regina Askia left Nigeria as an actress and became a registered nurse in USA after some years (she still a nurse and she loves it). So many foreigners have done, are doing and will do something similar to that.

It is the so-called "hustlers" (i.e. Uber drivers, online freelancers) that will NEVER qualify for a mortgage.

. Now you understand my point. If you are going to develop yourself, there is a chance you will live a better life in Nigeria or anywhere in the world. The world is constantly looking for value. If you are going to “hustle” a.k.a fast money, running abroad is a rat race. This has been point. Has Regina ever mentioned that Nigeria is shit hole. Check very well, many people who make statements as this are never do wells. If you follow my posts keenly you would understand my message. The good thing also is writing those professional exams affords you mobility to any part of the world. Now an individual who has not managed to pass SSCE or graduate with a second class lower will come online and call Nigeria shit hole. Is it same individual that will pass professional exams abroad.

sirhamilton:
This comment here shows you know nothing about acquiring a property in the US.

enlighten me pls.