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jesusjnr2020:
Why Christians Need Not Fret About Electoral Victory Of APC's Muslim-Muslim Ticket

The freest and fairest presidential election to be held in the history of this nation was won by the party that fielded a muslim-muslim ticket.

It was a muslim-muslim ticket of MKO Abiola and Babagana Kingibe, yet no one, not even one Christian or church leader in this nation, seemed to care or have any issues with it. I can't remember anyone as such speaking against it.

Even the only rival party at the time fielded a muslim-christian ticket, yet it was the muslim-muslim ticket that Christians in this nation voted overwhelmingly for.

Nigerian Christians and the church contributed significantly to the victory of the party that fielded the muslim-muslim ticket over that which fielded the muslim-christian ticket, because they believed the presidential candidate of the party with the muslim-muslim ticket would provide the best leadership of the nation.

So it's not really about a muslim-muslim ticket as many Christians and church leaders were making it to be, but which of the presidential candidates would provide the best leadership for the nation, and based on antecedence, the presidential candidate of party with the muslim-muslim ticket is one that has proven himself to be most competent at the leadership level of all the leading candidates of the election.

This doesn't mean that he wasn't a former drug lord in the past or wasn't corrupt, but the fact that regardless, his track record in the area of leadership clearly trumps those of his closest rivals.

It's that glaring, even a spokesman of arguably his major rival in the race, couldn't help but admit that he was the best state Governor Nigeria has ever produced.

So except we want to be sentimental about it, this is not far from the truth.

When it comes to the area of religious sentiments, the presidential candidate of the muslim-muslim ticket is the one who chose a RCCG pastor as running mate for the president despite being Muslim. Moreover the immediate past and present Christian governors of Lagos state were both his choices.

In addition to that, the closest person to him, his wife, who he's been married to for close to forty years is also Christian and also said to be an RCCG pastor. That should illustrate his religious orientation.

On rigging of elections, that's sadly a systemic issue in this nation as we speak, because none of the leading candidates of the presidential election, could boldly claim they didn't benefit from rigging in the elections to any degree.

The only reason his rivals were crying foul is because they lost the election regardless. I'm pretty sure if the party which won had lost, they'd would have also claimed to have been rigged out. The only reason they're not crying foul is because they won and so also would their rivals if they had won.

One clear instance of that, is the rigging of the elections in Rivers state. The same governor, a so-called Christian, that massively rigged the elections in the favour of the rival presidential candidate of his party, has been rigging elections for his party in previous elections. But those who benefitted from his massive rigging previously didn't have any issue with it, it's only now that he has used the same rigging mechanism against them that they're now crying foul, which is nothing but sheer hypocrisy.

If it's in in the area of health, the sitting president was also mocked and ridicled at some point because of his health. Some even maliciously claimed he was dead and had been replaced by Jubrin of Sudan, the worst part was that many fell for that blatant lie, including some Christians and church leaders, but the same president miraculously emerged from the jaws and shadows of death and now appears fitter and healthier than ever.

He even outlived some of those who mocked him and claimed he was dead, so if God could do it for the sitting president why not the president-elect?

I'm not a fan of the president-elect as I was of MKO Abiola. I didn't even support or vote for him during the election, but when I was praying for Nigeria days before the election, when I had no idea how the election would pan out, God told me APC would win and it came to pass as God said.

https://www.nairaland.com/7234820/what-saw-nigeria-next-president#121245078

I don't still know what the result entails for the nation because God hasn't told me any more than that, but I believe that God's plans for Nigeria is still on course regardless.

One of the reasons I am not a fan of the president-elect is his ego and pride, but if God could humble King Nebuchadnezzar, how much more the president-elect?

Here is an excerpt of his acceptance speech which offered a bit of hope:

"I am grateful to Almighty God. By His mercy, I was born a son of Nigeria and through His sublime purpose I find myself the victor of this election. May He grant me the wisdom and courage to lead the nation to the greatness He alone has destined for it."

If he actually meant it, i would say, a big "amen" to the prayer, and if it be the Will of God, let it be done!

God bless Nigeria.

The election was rigged.
You are a liar anyway what else to expect from a satanjnr

OgaNightmare:
Is she not a human being like the rest?

It is not a matter of being a human but order in the church.

Omooba77:
Why is God more Gracious to Sinners?

All are sinners its only grace that can save people.

[quote author=etrange post=121448286]The bible already foretold a time like this when people like you will flood the earth claiming to be wise but are actually foolish.

tctrills:
Same sex attraction is natural but being gay is a decision. We all are attracted to do different stupid stuff but it's up to us to resist.

same sex attraction is not natural.
Humans are fallen creatures and so are drawn towards sin by nature but however same sex attraction is not natural at all just like a human having sexual attraction for animals, it is unnatural and a result of people rejecting God's truth.

OgaNightmare:
According to orthodox theology and Modalist he is
According to Arians and Unitarians he's not

My brother shey you don see confusion wey dey this world 😂😂😂

Medalists do not believe in the Trinity.
They are in fact unitarians.

Kobojunkie:
A born-again can also end up in Hell at the end of the day. Also, having a heart of compassion for those you call the lost doee not make one any less sinful than when one became born again so what you said does not answer my question. How do you know the other posts is not a sinner?,

@ bold that is a complete lie,
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

Janosky:
Simple question:

Oga,Is the verb " to be" (Ehyeh) present tense?
Forget what your Trinitarian mentors told you.
For once,be honest on this forum.

Your opinion can NOT change what the Jews believe screenshots evidences PROVEN here).

The Jews says the appropriate rendition is:
" I will be what/who I will be".


The only reason Christendom stuck to your claim is because of their desperation to DUBIOUSLY link Exodus 3:14 & John 8:58, even though John 8:23-26,38 , Jesus Christ contradicts Christendom's claim.

John 7:16 & Acts3:13, did Jesus & Peter agree with Christendom's interpretation of Exodus 3:14-16?
No !

have you checked the verb to be?
Jehovah is the only being that uses I AM consistently to describe himself.
Even new world translation interpreted Asher Ehyeh as I am in other verse.

Janosky:
Greek ego eimi is different from Hebrew language Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh (screenshot evidence).
" I will BE who/what I will be" correct rendition.
"I AM", not Hebrew language, the evidence of biblehub, Trinitarian believers.

There is no ego eimi at Exodus 3:14.



The Tetragramatton YHWH is @ Exodus 3:15-16, NOT "I am" at Exodus 3:14.


Exodus 3:15 YHWH is my name from generation to generation", Oga check am nau

Your mentors of Trinity made the FALSE claim you parrot again.

Did you not see the verb "be" there

Go and check the meaning of verb "to be"

Janosky:
There is NO "I am" in Hebrew language.
The Greek Bible translators used the Greek language "I am" expression to convey the Hebrew Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh as best they could.
In the same manner, that some individuals prefer speaking their native tongue to make a statement which no word for word statement could express in English.
Exodus 3:4, Moses says I am.
Isaiah 6:8, Isaiah says "I am."

More so, Acts 3:13 , John 7:16 & Isaiah 6:8 has given the proper clarity of Exodus 3:14-16.
Have you forgotten that Jesus PROVEN that Revelation 3:12 is the trend in the spiritual realm?

I have showed you where Asher Ehyen was used for I am.
Asher Ehyeh is a verb in Hebrew used for both future and present tense.

Janosky:
John 17:21-22
21 "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one"


Oga, John 17:21-22 is weed and delusion to your brain but truth in your Bible.
If you get liver, delete that verse from your Bible & have peace.

Jesus said he and his father are one does not mean Jesus is the father.

Janosky:
Hebrew language does NOT have present tense,

Judaism says Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh" (screenshot) meaning
"I will be what I will be" is their interpretation of Exodus 3:14 .

What do you make of Exodus 3:14-16, Acts 3:13, John 7:16 & John 8:38,58?

Exodus 3:14-16, John 7:16, John 8:38,58 & John 3:16 Jesus the God (ho Theos) of Abraham who sent Moses to the Israelites?

Acts 3:13 & Exodus 3:14-16, ,Is Jsesus Christ the God (ho Theos) of Abraham?

"Asher Ehyen" is a general verb used to describe being in Hebrew.
It is used for past , present and future,

Jesus use of "I AM" is the same way yahweh used to describe himself in Exodus 3 vv 14.

Janosky:
Mumu
Matthew 28:19, are 3 spirits one being?

Did Acts 3:13 depicts Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as one being?

Is Jesus Christ his own Father?

Have you forgotten your mentors @ Nicene say they are 3 persons?

In heaven Jesus was in the presence of God "I Am" his Father. John 8:28,38.

Or you mean there are two (2) "I AM" in each others presence
Your John 8:58 is TWISTING of holy scriptures.
Exodus 3:14 Hebrew is "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh", I will be what I will be"
John 8:28,38 dumped your John 8:58 GIBBERISH inside dustbin.

Ehyer Asher Ehyeh can also be interpreted as I AM that I AM

Both male and female children are equally important.
One should not prefer his female child over the male child or a male over the female child else he or she will destroy his or her family.

Chrislam, under the false pretext of tolerance and acceptance.

America can not help you.

VBCampaign:
Who's this one?

Christians will always pray for leaders so they can live in peace however that does not take away the fact that this election was manipulated. God sometimes gives the leaders to people according to what they deserve.

VBCampaign:
What Should Christians Do with a Bola Tinubu Presidency?

By: Deji Yesufu

Earlier this morning, Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu was pronounced winner of the 2023 Presidential elections in Nigeria. Tinubu becomes the 16th president and Head of State of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Tinubu, a Muslim from South-West Nigeria, had chosen a Muslim from North-East Nigeria as running mate. In the process, he led his campaign on a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which alienated a lot of Christian voters. Tinubu had clearly reasoned that the votes he will pull from northern Nigeria will far outweigh the votes from a vexed section of Christian voters. And one must admit that he was right after all. The natural question therefore is this: what do Christians do with a Bola Tinubu Presidency? My short answer will be to counsel that we accept it. The long answer will be explained in the rest of the essay.

First. Christians must come to terms with how the Bible regards political power. Scripture teaches that all power belongs to God and he bestows them on whomever he wishes. What it means is that in the providence of God, nothing could happen in the political arena of Nigeria without God ordaining it. In other words, God made Tinubu the Nigerian president. I have read commentaries elsewhere where it is suggested that God could never make somebody with the kind of record Tinubu has president. Truth is that if every one of the contestants are weighed on the balance of God’s holiness, no one will emerge worthy. God still uses imperfect people in governance. Except for Joseph and Daniel, every other ruler in the Bible were heathens. Why do we think that God will then raise a Christian or a near perfect man to rule Nigeria?

Second. The political contest is not over. Nigeria still has a judiciary, no matter how imperfect she is. At the last count, Bola Tinubu polled 8.7 million votes; Atiku – 6.9M; Obi – 6.1M; and Kwankwanso – 1.7M. On the natural, the difference between Obi and Tinubu votes is a mere 2.6M votes. If the Labour Party do their home work well, they can narrow down this difference through careful data collection from polling units and go to argue their case in court. But does this nullify my earlier claim that God made Tinubu president? No, it does not. The same God who made Tinubu president now can remove him through legal means. The opposition have been positing that Tinubu rigged himself to government. That’s fine. The onus is on them to argue their case in court, present their evidence and allow the judiciary to pronounce on the matter. Whatever comes out of that process is the will of God. Does that mean that God is just sitting down, rubber stamping everything men do? No. It means that God has both decreed the end from the beginning and also ensures the means to the end. True faith concludes that God is in charge, whatever the actions of men.

Third. Nigeria is the Christian’s Jerusalem. God’s command to us is to pray for the peace of Jerusalem because if she has peace, we will have peace also (Jeremiah 29:7). Now the political peace of Nigeria has been long in the making. Nigeria is not a divine entity; this country did not fall from heaven. It was human beings who put the concept of nationhood together and concluded that large swaths of communities connected together as a nation will fair better than isolated communities. The modern Nigerian state came about via British colonisation of our people. After the British left, Nigeria has gone through ups and down. The country has endured a thirty-month war; it has also experienced period of sustained prosperity; etc. All of these add up to the making of the country. Every thing Nigeria has experienced as a nation are part of God’s providence for her and the Christian mindset is that all of these will add up towards God fulfilling his good purpose for us. And God’s primary purpose for Nigeria is the redemption of his elect within this nation state. Whatever will make for peace, the preaching of the gospel and the enduring of a Christian Church in Nigeria is God’s purpose for this country. Anything else is secondary. So, any government that will allow for the gospel to thrive is the government Christians must pray for.

Lastly. In the light of the aforementioned: with the reality of God sovereignty actively working to give Nigeria a purposeful government and God working through any circumstance, including overturning a Tinubu government in the judiciary and installing Obi, the Christian’s attitude is one of complete faith in God. God is in charge. Therefore, the Christian’s attitude to a Bola Ahmed Tinubu government is one that calls us to pray for him. We must plead with God that Tinubu will succeed in his proposed policies. We must pray that God will give him health and wisdom. We must ask that God send him sound men to develop a new Nigeria. We must pray against nothing evil befalling him. After we have prayed, we must trust God to do his will.

As I close this essay, I wish to make an appeal to Eastern Nigeria who are the biggest losers in the Peter Obi botched presidential campaign: please be patient. My friend from Enugu told me that he put his reputation on the line, calling his friends who had sympathy for IPOB to give the Nigerian project a chance: that a free and fair election can happen in Nigeria. He says now he cannot say anything because he is now being blamed. He said if his friends resort to guerrilla warfare against Nigeria, he will not be able to oppose them again. I sympathise with the Ibo nation but I can only appeal for peace. I believe the judiciary still works and Peter Obi had used the Judiciary before to recover a stolen mandate. Let’s allow peace to reign and let’s argue our case like responsible people. Most people only know how violence begin; few know how it will end. I believe Ndigbo will one day have her son rule Nigeria. Peter Obi made a very good statement towards that end in the just concluded elections. Nigeria is better together than torn apart.

God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria

Source: https://textandpublishing.com/what-should-christians-do-with-a-bola-tinubu-presidency/

Who is this one?

Kobojunkie:
1. But I am the one here speaking to scripture. I am the one insisting on abiding by the Truth of God which is that Jesus Christ came to redeem only the lost sheep of the House of Jacob meaning that the world which He sent His followers into is the world which consists of the Lost sheep of Israel who were cursed and scattered by God to every tribe, every language and every Nation. You are instead the one insisting here we abandon scripture and assert out personal opinions in His place.

2. But fhe gentiles, the strangers that God sent Him to bring back, are those of the blood of Israel who God Himself cursed and scattered to all the ends of the World. The very same Isaiah explained this in Isaiah 60 and isaiah 66.

Any one from the blood of Israel is never called a gentile.
Isaiah 60 and 66 did not say any of such.

[quote author=guysbewise post=121145961][/quote]The animal sacrifice was symbolic, first of all, the life of an animal does not equal the life of a human.
1.The female goat or sheep represent christ submission because female animals are less aggressive compared to the male.

2.The animal must be without bruises represent sinlessness, the perfect sacrifice must be sinless

3. Jesus was his own priest and his body was the temple, since the temple represnt the place where God dwells, God was in Christ.

4. God does not demand for human sacrifice, the sacrifice of Jesus was willingly taken by Jesus to take up our place, just like a man taking the place of his condemned friend.

But obi contested alongside the man that is over 70, probably atiku was over 6ixty something then, obi didnt leave pdp because atiku was old.
I am disappointed at the lack of ideas and issue base campaigns of the contestants just insults, tribal sentiments, age shaming etc no ideology. What a shame!

SultanOfPuna:
God in olden days would have destroyed America because of high number of gays.
Sometimes i read old testament and I wonder if it's all fake stories

See America the headquarters of LGBT
But still America is flourishing
Good roads, steady electricity,powerful passport that will allow you travel the world without applying visa.
A country blessed with Strong Dollar currency.

But look at Nigeria where 90% are against LGBT.
Yet suffering everyday, no light , bad government, corruption bad roads.
Even those that hate LGBT are rushing to get Visa to America the LGBT headquarter.
No be juju be that

Nigeria wey no dey allow gay yet we suffer everyday
America wey support gays, just dey florish, their currency just dey boom.
Everybody wants rush go America

E come be like say God dey bless gay countries instead of destroying them.
This life no balance

what kind of statement are you making? That God should do what? Do you know that blasphemy is a sin?

God's Judgment can not come to the earth as long as his church is still here.

Once the church is taken out by the rapture then God will pour out his wrath.

terrezo2002:
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

God's gift to us brought us hope, life, peace, security, prosperity and many more. Anyone who has recieved this gift have been transformed into a new man/woman.
However, you see some people rejecting the gift. It is foolishness to them to accept it. But why would anyone reject free good gifts?

God gave us His Son as a gift to the world

they reject it because they are blind.

Is this the religion to be used to replace Christianity? Watch this video below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f8fotz5GUo

Your jesus is different from the Jesus of the bible.
Luke 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

And also commisioned his disciples to do the same.
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.



Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Kobojunkie:
See delusion!
He mentions Jesus Christ and rather than quote Him directly, He runs to quote from Proverbs instead.

You are lost, the worse part is you are delusional with your false Jesus.
You are proud in your foolishness which you take as logic.

Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Kobojunkie:
Nonsense! It is called entertainment for a reason. If you don't like it, change the channel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Emzp3jzqY[img][/img]

OLAADEGBU:
I don't think a man perishing in a deep well will care what colour of rope is thrown at him as long as he is rescued. When he survives it is only then that he will realise the fact that it is only that rope that saved him. When a man gets saved by our Lord Jesus Christ he will then know that it is only Jesus that can save.

A man perishing in deep well could grab a straw with all his might but will perish all the same. Truth is not sincerity, the true gospel present Jesus as the only way not one of the ways this is necessary so that man can be saved. One can be sincerely wrong, does not matter the honesty, zeal or enthusiasm if he believe in the wrong gospel then he is simply grabbing on to a straw.

A newborn baby doesn't understand how it was conceived but when it matures it will then understand how his parents procreated him. The baby doesn't need to know the details before it can be born. The same goes for a man to be born again. He does not need to know how God is three distinct personalities and yet one God before he can get saved.

After one gets saved he then learns who God really is as he grows into maturity.



If one is truly saved in such a church God will find a way of nurturing him to the truth.

He does not need to understand the Trinity to be saved. But however ,the Trinity is at the heart of the gospel. You can't preach the gospel by omitting the father and the Son.

The fatherhood of God and the Sonship of Jesus christ lies the heart of the gospel and this my friend is the bed rock of the Trinity.

OLAADEGBU:
Below is an excerpt from the site:



Are you saying that until you believe that Jesus is the only way or until you fully comprehend and believe in the Trinity before you can be saved?

No a man cannot believe in Jesus if he accept that Jesus is his only means of salvation. It is only when a man accept Jesus as the only way to be saved can he truly put his trust in Jesus and his works on the cross.



Comprehending the Trinity? No not really, one doesn't need to comprehend the Trinity to be saved but the tenets of the Trinity makes up the gospel namely that God the father gave us his Son Jesus christ to redeem us. For one to deny the Trinity means he denies the truth about the personhood of the father and Son. One cannot reject the Trinity and be saved because that would tantamount to believing a lie.

I don't mean one has to understand the Trinity to be saved but at the core of the gospel is the Trinity, accepting the gospel means accepting the Trinity to deny the Trinity means one didn't believe the gospel in the first place.

For example, the oneness pentecostal do not believe in the personhood of the father and the Son hence their faith is not grounded to scriptural truth this simply means they have another gospel and are not saved.

Commendable but the site said that there is no consequence of denying that Jesus is the only way?
That is not true.
Without the realization of the truth that Jesus is the only way one cannot be saved.

Also the virgin birth is important because by this we affirm that Jesus is indeed the messiah.

Non important doctrines of Christianity are things like tithing, harvest Thanksgiving, celebrating holidays like Christmass or not celebrating it, days of worship etc.

Kobojunkie:
Why Do you Praise the name of Jesus Christ when He said not to?

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anyone that does not honour Jesus does not honour the Father.

John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

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The heavens declare the glory of God, hallelujah, the evidence of God's existence is obviously starring at our faces yet some attribute it to chance.
Only a fool will say there is no God.