Winters23: If you like campaign and vote for another idiott and then continue to complain nigeria is in a mess.
Nigeria don’t need to take a fall for America to progress.
I can't vote, I don't live in 9ja. All the countries that have fallen for the US are among the richest countries in the world. Your favorite countries, India, Russia, and China have very low per capita incomes and high cases of extreme poverty. There is no reason to follow their example.
What does Germany, Japan, South Korea, EU and UK have in common?
They're all conquered territories disguising as allies!
They depend on USA for defence and foreign policy development as well as economic survival.
When USA sneezes they shiver.
Only Russia, China and India have the balls to think for themselves in this goddamm world.
I wish Nigeria is one of these conquered territories because other things they have in common are super economies and a very high standard of living. If the conquered Nations are doing much better than the free nations then something is wrong somewhere.
Which mumu charity. We have very limited hours in a day. We should use our time and money wisely. Watching the 9ja football is a low quality activity to me. I can't invest time or money in such.
Auskyd: Exactly! It is the bitterness for me! He isn't talking like who wants to educate you. He talks like who is hell bent on turning people's minds and hearts against these JW people.
I know this for sure. OP used to be one of them. Maybe he broke the rules and he got removed by them, so to spite them, he has decided to dedicate his time and effort to maligning them every chance he gets. Do you know what it takes to set up a moniker just for the sole purpose of inciting hate against another religion? It is very personal bro.
I showed that yesterday. I'm glad everyone can see him for the bible fraud he is. He just reads the bible to look for points to discredit another religion, not because of spiritual enlightenment.
Auskyd: Bro, the guy quoting bible is not doing so for spiritual enlightenment. He is doing it out of spite and pain.
Have you seen someone that claims to understand and love the bible come down to this floor Level to exchange and hurl insults.?
See him change from cool bible scholar to tout in less than 3 hours.
Started bragging about how much he earns (typical Nigerian)
Leave him abeg. Seek knowledge from true scholars that show that they follow what they teach, not read bible to show off and get back at a religion because he felt spited.
This could have easily been an interesting debate where neutrals like me could have learnt a lot but hate, pride and anger on both sides robbed us of the opportunity.
Clearly the OP is bitter but I also see much bitterness on the other side. I understand many feel its a personal battle when their religion seems to be disrespected but it shouldn't be.
I am learning not to take these things personal because we really don't get to educate or learn this way.
Maynman: Hypocrite , he was the one that started it. You are yet to say anything about him because y’all support the same god together. Rest.
Just to give you the benefit of the doubt, let's agree that I am a hypocrite, does it change anything that I said? You should learn to take advice and better you life and person. You are angry because I chose to advice you right?
Maynman: Hypocrite , he was the one that started it. You are yet to say anything about him because y’all support the same god together. Rest.
Just to give you the benefit of the doubt, lets agree that I am a hypocrite, does it change anything that I said? You should learn to take advice and better you life and person
JWs as of today still remain the only religious group doing God's will and completely following Christ teachings in their midst.
Tctrills has said you should stop making this a personal issue.
I think you guys should stop this. No one is educating anymore, new knowledge and ideas are not being shared, to me, it's now a market square argument. Bible verses are not being quoted. What is there to learn in this argument. You believe your church is the best and the other guy believes your church is a fraud. Both of you seem to enjoy going for each other but the rest of us reading along don't think either of you is giving value.
Maynman: Your baboon ancestors that they used Bible to lure to slavery will be proud of you, Baboon
I hope you know that you are no longer exchanging Ideas rather you are now exchanging insults. It seems your goal is to come on Nairaland and insult people of other beliefs. I understand that doing so could give you joy and a strange kind of satisfaction but it doesn't add more to the discuss.
You are not educating anyone, you are not exploring ideas, you are not answering questions, and clearly, you are not changing minds.
RussellRutherfo: You have to blame the Jehovah witnesses for this. MaxInDHouse and especially Janosky made me realize that you can't discuss in a calm manner with them. You have to act like these louts to get the lies of their organization across. If not they would derail the truth like that fake china headset mushin market boy is trying to do.
They never address any point raised but divert into another stuff to try and force shame you into shutting up from exposing the lies of their organization. They are like keyboard jihadists.
They move on the offence to try and shut you down by attacking you personally but I know them very well. I know whatever theocratic warfare formats and training that they have to try and shut down the truth.
You shouldn't think so. Stick to point, make it clear or simple without accusation or name calling. The naturals on the thread are reading. If someone is researching the topic 10 years from now, he would be able to see and understand your points clearly.
Now you seem to be saying that a few things have changed in JW over the years. I think its the same with many old organizations. Many old belief systems cannot meet the modern requirement. I guess the only old belief system that has not changed much is Islam and they are finding it so hard to fix into the modern world.
Auskyd: He should spend his Time thinking of how to please God and fight for his own righteousness. Not this rubbish he is doing. I'm not supporting JWz, but this is stupid is any ramification you can think of. Let him prove me wrong.
You never fight how you go enter heaven, but you dey help people select religion. Lmao foolishness at its peak.
I personally enjoy religious discussions. But I always want to stick to point and not deviate into pertiness and bitterness. I don't like calling out any organization. I feel the op has carried out his post the wrong way. There is nothing wrong in him showing us old JW beliefs but all the insults, that, I don't get. And it is coming from both sides to be fair. So much hate from both sides.
A few questions. How does the church you attend affect you education, growth, and success? Why do some religions produce more capable individuals that others? Not to Christians, If Jesus Christ was on earth today, would his organization produce poor people who can barely feed or wealthy people who have enough to spare for others?
Auskyd: Allow him fight. Na big fool . I just dey go thru hin threads dey laugh. Personal vendetta wan kill am.
Be like Dem chop hin eye lmao.
But you are not too different from him. You are attacking his person. I think we all should stick to the main issues. If he has a take on the JW, he should air it and then JW members are free to respond or correct his notion if the want to. Thats how everyone learns. We don't need to agree with ourselves to learn and improve. Many of my arguments on Nairaland have made me read, research and learn more about my position and the other position.
crackheadZara: 30 billion and he has this ugly, awful, forlorn, sullen, unabashed disarray of a hairline, can't even afford the tiniest of disciplines required to stick to a basic workout regime, not to mention the foul arrogance of his attitude and the broad cleft in his intellect. I am of a strong conviction that if this man wasn't born into a family of wealth, his sort of person would end up in the drabbest and grimiest places where only urchins and louts thrive.
Wow, this is just pure hate. If you think it's easy to be one of Africa most recognized voices just because you have a rich family, then point out how many other kids from wealthy homes are this recognized. The most important thing is to be comfortable in your skin. Not everyone needs a workout. Davido is clearly not Obese. He can get much trimer but it's up to him so why the hate? You claim he is arrogant but your write-up shows that of a deeply arrogant and disturbed individual fueled with hate and jealousy.
Das1mama: Good afternoon gentle men and ladies; straight to the point, 1, Christianity was brought to Africa by the Whites but have never seen in any Hollywood, Bollywood movies where they are casting out demons or performing miracles but in Nollywood if not all, you must see them conducting deliverance. 2, The last but not the least, if the whites condemned our tradition and introduced Christianity and other religion, why were they buying all the deities with huge amounts of money.
1. There are a number of Hollywood movies where demons, vampires and the rest are cast out. 2. Ancient artifacts and works of arts are always very expensive. It doesn't have to be African or spiritual to make it super expensive. For example, The “Salvator Mundi” of Leonardo da Vinci went for $3 million in 2017. The Mona Lisa is valued at $1 billion. So these high prices are not unique to African Artifacts.
RussellRutherfo: Watch them all from Janosky, Cornelboy, AkiwaleJJ, MaxInDHouse, etcetera avoid addressing these lies of their organization rather they would go on to talk about how lies in the past is truth in the future.
Hypocritical slaves who don't hold themselves to the same standard they set for other religious groups.
If you see the way in KHs and private discussions right from the days of the Occultic Praymid calculating founder of the Jehovah witness cult organization that they ridicule and mock other religions especially the Christians. You would think that they have always been truthful. Only for you to cross-check and see that these ones are one of the biggest lying sleekest organization the world has ever known.
You may have some points but you seem to be fighting a personal war with them. Remember these guys are not evil. They believe their side of the story just as you believe yours. I suggest you stay away from personal issues and fights and do whatever you do just for educational purposes. Let the public learn your beliefs, opinion and research and never make it a personal battle.
Ibomrep: God's kingdom is a heavenly kingdom that will replace all human Government. Daniel 2:44 2Thessalonians 1 : 6-8
It's a real government with all characteristic.
It's made up of the following :
(1) Seat of Power
Heaven is the seat of power of God's kingdom.
(3) The King
Jehovah God appointed Jesus Christ his son as the king of his kingdom. Daniel 7: 13,14. Matthew 11 : 28-30. Hebrew 10 : 12, 13
(4) Co-rulers
Just like human government in which a king, Governor, or president doesn't rule alone. Some people will rule with Jesus. Revelation 5:9,10. Revelation 14 :1-4
Jesus apostles were the first set of people that God choose from Earth that will rule with Jesus. John 14:1-3, Corinthians 15: 42-44
(5) Subject
All others Christian on Earth will become citizens of God's kingdom. Psalms 37:29
(6) Constitution ( Degree)
Government make laws that are supposed to benefit and protect their citizens. God's kingdom too has Superior Laws that it's citizens most follow. Bible contains the law of the Kingdom. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11
What will God's kingdom Accomplish?
(1) Restoring Peace and justice to the earth
Jesus the King of God's kingdom, will destroy wicked people and government at the war of Armageddon. Revelation 16 :14, 16
At that time Psalms 37: 10 will be fulfilled.
(2) The righteous will possessed the earth . Psalms 37:29
(3) End of Human government
'Man has dominated man to his harm' . Ecclessiates 8: 9.
So for this reason and many more, God's kingdom will replace human rulership. Daniel 2: 44
(4) Earth environmental problems will be solved. Isaiah 35:1,2
(5) World hunger will be eliminated . Psalms 72:16
(6) Perfect health for all. Isaiah 33:24
(7) No more death !!! Revelation 21:3,4 Isaiah 25:8
( Animals will be harmless to Humans. Isaiah 65:25
(9) Accommodation for all Isaiah 65:22,23
(10) The blind will see . Deaf will hear. Lame will leap. Isaiah 35:5-7 Revelation 21: 4
(12) Many will be resurrected back to life !!! Act 24:15
There are two hope for all Humans that is either living forever here on Earth under God's kingdom rulership or Going to Heaven to rule with Jesus over the inhabitants of the earth.
It's only Jehovah God that will decide for all.
You can live forever on Earth only if you exercise Faith in Jesus Ransom sacrifice !!!
Note, after Jesus Christ and his Co-rulers Rule and restore the earth for one thousand years he will then handover power to his father, Jehovah, and he will rule forever.
They many live triggered questions that the Bible provides satisfying answers to , do well to explore the world most translated and visited religious website - WWW.JW.ORG
A world without sufferings, corruption, Deaths, Hatred, poverty, Unemployment and sickness is near !!!
Be alert !!!
Vote for God's kingdom now !!!
I mostly agree with you except that all those that would dwell with God would be kings, Queens and priests. They would seat on the throne of God. They would be like God and have all his power given to them. Revelation 1:6 (6) And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever.
Revelation 3:21 To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
RussellRutherfo: Why do Jehovah's Witnesses expect people to accept the " faithful and discreet slave " as Jehovah's sole channel of communication ?
What about 1John 4:1?
1 John 4:1 KJV — Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Do Jehovah's Witneeses ever tell those that are studying with them to take some time and properly test ( examine ) the W.T. "slave's " record ?
"faithful" : to be loyal , trustworthy . "discreet " : knowing when to be silent , don't run ahead .
Has the W.T. 'slave " been loyal to Jehovah by being faithful to His Word in providing consistently accurate , reliable , Bible instruction ? What does the record show ?
Being a prophet and teacher has the W.t. "slave " proven itself to keep quiet and not run ahead of Jehovah by going beyond what is written ? What does the record show ?
Many years ago I decided to properly test the W.T. "slave's " claim of authority to be Jehovah's sole channel of communication .
What I found : the W.T. "slave" over and over and over again proved itself to be a unfaithful and discredited slave .
I am not a JW but I have watched you for a while attack them so viciously. I believe you were once a member. I don't know how you left but then, I don't believe you were forced to join. Please don't be offended when I ask, why are you doing this? We both know that many other churches have their faults and past so why pick on your former church? I really want to know your motive.
Lets see this beyond fighting for our church because the battle is of the Lord. It's not about that, it's about knowing the truth so I would love JW members out there to show that these publications are false and we move on from there.
So that when JWs eventually wake up and leave the cult, they can attend your church of TRUTH with you.
Wahala dé o
If articles like these are true, it shows the imperfection and metamorphosis of religions groups. While I believe that the Jw like many churches out there is mostly good, we do not need to be afraid to discuss its imperfections and some of its dark past. That's how to learn and move forward. You may not leave the church because of its imperfections unless you find a better one but you should be prepared to know, challenge and discuss in a constructive way.
The aim should never be to ridicule anyone exposing the darkness in our belief system but to learn the truth. Only the truth brings freedom. And only those who hunger and thirst after it would be filled.
So lets commend the creator of this post and learn, discuss and oppose without taking it personal. Lets ask question and then we would be able to improve our different organizations.