₦airaland Forum

Sad that all we got is PDP and APC....

No Buhari...no Atiku....

PDP and APC jokes as usual.

Uselessman:
1 trillion naira is chicken chance to Oyedepo. Our school fees is not been used for any thing. Everything built, bought even paying of salary is done by the church. So Oyedepo can make covenant university absolutely free for the next 100years

Oyedepo's church collects N600billion in offerings and tithes yearly

Note that he has to pay church workers , pastors, church businesses, primary schools, and secodary school from that.

University budget too comes from there as well.

So, he does not have N1 trillion sitting down somewhere.

Uselessman:
I disagree with you. Do you know how many times papa told us he is using our school fees to cut grass when I was still in covenant University.

You may, but let's be frank, even if Oyedepo sold all he had and dumped it on the university, (and to be honest, I expect him to do so!)...it would only adequately fund the university....for a few years.

It's like what I hear when Nigerians say we should...rightly...cut the salaries of all the rich politicans in the National Assembly and use it to fund unviersity. We spend N1 trillion on the National Assembly. That's a lot. But according to the ASUU-FG agreement of 2009...ALL our federal universities needed N1.5 trillion in one year for adequate funding...in extra funding.

One more thing...I wonder why people complain about Oyedepo. Afe Babalola and others have non-church affiliated universites that charge even higher. And all of them have one thing in common...zero access to govt fund.

At least....YOU went to covenant. You had access to good hostel and class room facilites as a result of high fees. I went to a public university . For N2000 (later N18000 per annum)...I got poor hostels (six per room in my first year), poor cafeteria facilities, poor labs, and poor libraries. And zero computers.

ollah2:
And that has further divided and killed us so what's the point?

And sweeping it under the carpet would make the issue go magically away.?

ollah2:
Nairaland should endeavour to limit religious threads that hits front page. It's 2019, we need to put religion aside, think and discuss about meaningful things.

Lalasticlala
Seun
Mynd44
Ishilove

Shalom!!!

Nigerians talk a lot about stuff. Religion is one of the most important things to a Nigerian....including the atheist Nigerians.

Topmaike007:
is the cup of tea of Those that hate the church

No, the guy you quoted has asked a valid question....

I know one guy who is where he is today because a missionary gave him free admission to the school he was running. If not for that missionary that guy would have ended up doing menial jobs for a living.

The truth is, university cannot be cheap.(That is the truth ASUU and FG are dodging from...and why we have strikes up and down...)

But I think we Christians can lend a hand. Run scholarships, help the poorest of the poor, sponsor a student, fundraising, maybe a joint scholarship fund funded by CAN which can be funded by voluntary contribiutons...and also by making it an investment fund...which would in theend at least cushion the effect.

kolaxed98:
Which one b khadijah?

All these Muslims self

okk4sure:
Which 1 b Hezekiah?

All ds Christians self!

The two of you should get married!

Enough of this 'My Mercedes is bigger than yours' behaviour.

Elzak:
How many members of the churches can afford to send their children to these universities?

The truth is that many of them CAN afford the universites.

But to answer your real question....why can't these churches allow students to go to school for N20000 per annum?

Because if they did...many of their universites would be bankrupt in one year.

Church unviersities have to raise their funding. Even mega rich churches like Living faith don't have access to the kind of funding that government does to subsidise education.

Also, many of them rich churches have to pay unviersity staff at par with what they pay in public universites. And in addition, many of these churches also have other businesses, as well as pastors, chruch workers, etc who also have to be paid...and who employ lots of people....that have to be paid.

Universites are also very expensive.Average budgets of well funded universites can be above $100million yearly. Many churches don';t have that cash at hand....and even if Papa sold all his fine jets, etc...that would only yield enough cash....for one year. Then fees have to go up again.

I know...I wish educaiton was free. But it can't. Back when our parents went to University for free...getting into university was much harder than it was. It took 2 years...during which you wrote O level, A level, and whatever matric exam the university you wanted to enter set for you. And you must pass at a high level (One of my uncles got 5 credits at Olevel...in the right subjects too. Back then, it was enough for him to get into a teacher's training college.Not that he regretted it...he retired as a Principal a few years ago).

Now, entry to unviersity has become easier. Millions more students are in university than they were in the 1970s. And the funding is becoming more and more difficult. So, fees. Or we end up with half baked graduates...or we pay professors N30000 as salary...and expect them to grin and bear it.

The problem is that the Change Nigeria needs is beyond APC and PDP.

Watch as PDP wins this election, and by 2023 there would be this same article but with different names.

Nigerians don't like fighting corruption. Like people like parties

And that is why Nigeria is a backward country

Problems here

1.Poor city planning.Somewhere along the line the plans for Surulere were thrown into the bin

2.Poor light....this one

I blame government for not doing stuff like taking loans to fix power, paying bills for government parastatals.
And I blame Nigerians. Many Nigerians don't pay their bills.
Plus...I am on a prepaid meter. I pay less than $5 for light...,meanwhile AN average Ghanaian pays more. Ghana has 24/7 light...Nigeria does not have light.

3.Poor water.
Again...government...how well do they plan.
Then how many people pay their water bills. Is what we are paying sufficient enough to make the water people supply us with water 24/7

Kai....Nigeria needs CHANGE...not APC or PDP change...CHANGE.

It's all very well...but the key word is sustainability.

We once heard how we were the fastest growing economy in Africa...until the oil price crashed in 2014.

gidgiddy:
What you said in the above was not even the main problem. The real problem was what Gowon did on the 26th of May 1967 when he abolished the 4 Regions that made up Nigeria and created 12 states. That was the straw that broke the Csmels back because the most important agreement reached in Aburi was that Gowon would not change the structure of Nigeria [b]"without the concurance of the 4 Regional Military Governors "/b]

In other words, if Gowon ever decided to change the structure of Nigeria from the 4 constitutionally created Regions of the time, all the 4 Military Governors of the time had agree.

But Gowon decided to to abolish the 4 Regions without asking the 4 Military Governors, breaking the Aburi agreement and leaving Ojukwu with no other choice than to declare Biafra which led to war

It should be noted that Gowon abolished the Region so as to implement the Not the "divide and rule" strategy.

It was either Ojukwu bowed to the will of the North like Awolowo and others did, or he fought for the freedom of his people. As the the Igbo man he is, there's no way he could allow his people become slaves without a fight.

First off, thumbs up to you and @Volksfuhrer for a good discussion...

Re abolition of the regions...that came about because of minority tribe agitation for states....the kind of agitation that partly led to the Middle Belt region creation.

Sure Gowon was playing divide and rule there...but remember Gowon was from a minority tribe too....

The tipping point for me towards secession was the 1966 pogroms...the 'October round' in particular. Aburi for me was just medicine after death. The Rubicon had been crossed ages ago.

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The problem with this story is that we are supposed to believe he was 'poisoned' without any information as to how he was poisioned or why...

Here we go

1.Vomitting out blood could be due to lung disease, liver disease or peptic ulcer.

2.Then there is this

Alcoholics are more prone to getting their esophageal veins ruptured as they frequently have nausea, forceful vomiting and retching from drinking too much alcohol

So, he most likely drank too much alcohol that day....then died either from alcoholic poisoning....the vomiting out blood TOO could have caused the death...

Throwing up blood is always a medical emergency, but it can be a sign of a catastrophic event in alcoholics. Patients who have a history of esophageal varices can die within a few hours from exsanguination after they have the symptom of throwing up blood.

The guy was an alcoholic. He died when he had a rupture of the veins in his oesophagous...which led him to vomit up a lot of blood...he in essence vomitted himself to death.

Don't drink too much alcohol guys.

SAUCE

Oh, he was not poisoned by anyone.If he was, he would have taken a long time to die.

“In view of the apparent indifference of government to permanently resolve these lingering issues, some of which have persisted for over five years now, the Joint Health Sector Unions by this letter notifies the Federal Government of her resolve to resume the suspended industrial action by Thursday, 31st January, 2019. “Having waited for this long it is surprising that the following matters have not been resolved,” he noted.

Among issues at stake are upward adjustment of the CONHESS Salary structure; unjustified withholding of the salaries of JOHESU members for the months of April and May, 2018 and headship of hospital departments. Others are non promotion of members on CONHESS 14 – 15 as Directors in some Federal Health Institutions, and implementation of Consultancy Cadre to JOHESU members.

In other words....the same old song.

Anyway....the truth is...healthcare in Nigeria has a lot of problems. There is the war between doctors and nurses...and then there is the MONEY issue.

Nukilia:
God of heaven, when will we get it right in Nigeria?
This country must not continue like this

To everyone who is crying 'When Nigeria will make it'...this is why we are not there...

1.Education....In China...their education system is a strict meritocracy. Exams are extremely tough...and you must start preparing for their equivalent of our WASSCE years in advance.

In Nigeria...when students are busy with miracle centers, exam cheats, etc....

2.In China...people pay their light bills on time, govt and private firms inclusive.

In Nigeria...where people bypass their meters, people refuse to pay bills because 'too expensive' and then expect a DISCO who has so many people and government agencies and business owing them to give them what they cannot give?

3.In China....economic development is measured in terms of industrial growth.

In Nigeria...haaa...

a) Our people and political class are obsessed with restructuring...which really means 'How we share oil money'.
b) Our people believe that the only good job is a white collar clerical job....if you are a technician...you are an illiterate.
c) When it is time to construct infrastructure....that is when the natives come and start demanding bribes.
etc...


Problem with Nigeria is that we expect a Hero to save us from problems we can save ourselves from.

larryking540:
I for don enter dis country na just language barrier go b my problem, ,,even if it's to get a 150k job am ok there

China has a huge racism problem....yes, there are black guys making it there (I even heard of one guy, originally from Niger Republic, who is even a millionaire...but that's after twenty years of hardship and hustle...plus he happened to be in the right place at the right time too)...but there is a lot of very racist attitudes.

One Gabonese guy , who has lived in China for 3 decades, married , even speaks the language fluently, and is settled there...was racially abused while walking with his wife one evening. After three decades....

kolaxed98:
Everybody this is China this is being built in.

If it was Nigeria u will see Yoruba Muslims shouting they have Christianized the place.

Are the Chinese christian?
Did they die?
These Chinese are progressive than any Muslim dead or alive

1.China persecutes Christians...even till this day. The only churches that are allowed to operate are churches that have ther sermons approved by government minders.

2. China is developed....because they don't have enough resources to be selling and sharing the money...so they had to go industrial.


When we tell you Nigerians to stop arguing over oil money...or whether the Hausas are taking away all our oil money, or the Igbos want Biafra so that they can chop oil money....and instead use your resources in your state to build an industry like Dangote and Innoson do...you people will laugh at us...and then go and vote people whose only idea is how to share money

Even those chanting for restructuring...most of them want more money. Actual development they don't want.

Go and vote right people into office. Stop all this Sai Barber and Atikuloot jokes and games. We need leaders who will take us away from our chop and quench mentality.

ollah2:
The day Nigerians take the bull by the horns and quit voting criminals but no they want PDP AND APC back in power. Nigerians truly deserve Nigeria

Just saying...

Rockyrascal:
Is Kaduna really his middle name?

More like a nickname..he was born and bred in Kaduna town

9jaown:
APC also are fraud. EFCC should go after them

Same for PDP too....

And while you are at it...vote out APC and PDP....

Bashir Abdullahi Mohammed, Oche Ogenyi, Adefila Taofile Kayode, Rabiu Aliko Lawal and Mmadu Mathew

Hmm...this one na collabo across religion and tribe...

kullozone:
No, I can't run faster than Bolt or box for twelve rounds... but I look very fit.
I thought we were talking about appearance though!

It's not impossible for one to look fit without him/her being an athlete, you know.
And I wasn't even talking about married women with children, I meant the average Nigerian single Lady

Then why did you say 'Naija women' ?

Presumably that includes all Nigerian women, young and old.....

He certianly had his heart in the right place

Our enemies are the political profiteers, the swindlers, the men in high and low places that seek bribes and demand 10 percent; those that seek to keep the country divided permanently so that they can remain in office as ministers or VIPs at least, the tribalists, the nepotists, those that make the country look big for nothing before international circles, those that have corrupted our society and put the Nigerian political calendar back by their words and deeds. Like good soldiers we are not promising anything miraculous or spectacular. But what we do promise every law abiding citizen is freedom from fear and all forms of oppression, freedom from general inefficiency and freedom to live and strive in every field of human endeavour, both nationally and internationally. We promise that you will no more be ashamed to say that you are a Nigerian.

Yet precceding that comment..

Demonstrations and unauthorised assembly, non-cooperation with revolutionary troops are punishable in grave manner up to death.

Refusal or neglect to perform normal duties or any task that may of necessity be ordered by local military commanders in support of the change will be punishable by a sentence imposed by the local military commander.

Spying, harmful or injurious publications, and broadcasts of troop movements or actions, will be punished by any suitable sentence deemed fit by the local military commander. Shouting of slogans, loitering and rowdy behaviour will be rectified by any sentence of incarceration, or any more severe punishment deemed fit by the local military commander.

Doubtful loyalty will be penalised by imprisonment or any more severe sentence.

Illegal possession or carrying of firearms, smuggling or trying to escape with documents, valuables, including money or other assets vital to the running of any establishment will be punished by death sentence.

Wavering or sitting on the fence and failing to declare open loyalty with the revolution will be regarded as an act of hostility punishable by any sentence deemed suitable by the local military commander. Tearing down an order of the day or proclamation or other authorised notices will be penalised by death.

The man made some of our latter day dictators look like kindergartners.

In my humble opinion....Nzeogwu had no business commissioning a coup. And had he succeeded, he would have been a very brutal dictator.

And let's not forget the monster he unleashed which led to the death of millions by 1970...

NinjaMetahuman:
I'm more concerned about the deal he made to obtain his visa.

America wilL not publicly declare support for candidates unless he has something to offer them.

We are watching

According to Premium Times...

PREMIUM TIMES reported last year that Mr Abubakar sold his estate in the United States, following his inability to enter the country. He denied that his inability to enter the U.S. informed the sale, saying he only sold the mansion because he no longer needed it as he was now fully based in Nigeria.

Mr Abubakar’s visa appears to have come through the intervention of Mr Obasanjo, with whom he recently settled decade-old dispute ahead of the 2019 elections.


Mr Obasanjo wants President Muhammadu Buhari out of office, after accusing him of displaying incompetence in the face of myriads issues confronting the country.

Party insiders told PREMIUM TIMES U.S. authorities made it clear that Mr Abubakar was issued visa without preconditions, meaning he would not be detained or harrassed in any way if he entered the country.

Mr Abubakar received a U.S. visa last December, sources said.

Sauce

GistFullGround:
Atiku knows what University education is that's why he established one in his home state.


Buhari does not even know the relevance of a Primary education not to talk of University.


Vote Atiku and I believe ASUU strike will cease

1.No, ASUU strike won't cease under Atiku....and saying that Atiku is good for universities because he established one in his home state is like saying Buhari is good for universities too...since at least 4 were established under his administration.

2. The problem is, under the terms of the 2009 agreement., ASUU got a promise from FG to pay 3 trillion in extra funding for universites over the next 2 years. That funding has been beaten down to 1.1 trillion over 5 years.

3.With oil prices falling...Atiku is not going to get funding needed...

4.Plus...as far as I am concerned, Universities in Nigeria need more than 2 trillion annually just to keep fees low.

5.The real issue around the strike is that neither ASUU nor the government wants to face the cold reality of raised fees....instead they pretend we have the money, somehow...when we don't.

uzolexis:
Chop knuckle dear, you have overearned it.

Thank you!

SEONaijaExpert:
This is what President Buhari has done within the limited resources available after it was massively looted during the previous administration.

Again, they're planning to continue atikulooting.

I will enrich my friends (Atiku cabal) syndrome instead of enriching Nigerians.

It's all very well, but so long as our economy is hooked to oil, wealth ain't sustainable

The problem with universities is funding.

Government has not been able to honor the 2009 agreement in its entirety.

So, either fees go up, or universities remain a mess, unable to attract funding or new staff