₦airaland Forum

Integrafamoo:
Fayose paid our scholarship: 750k for PhD, 250k for MSc etc. Its better than any other investment. When u see a bad of people also look for the good side.

Scholarship is one thing...jobs is the other thing.

In my opinion, eventually, we would have to move from things like rice production, stomach infrastructure, even scholarship payment (many nothern states do pay bursaries to their students at university level too you know)....and towards each and every state using their resources to produce stuff that the world can benefit from.

Many of the guys who get scholarships...and it is all very well...want to work in a nice comfy office, they don't want to be producers.

jchioma:
Are you hard of understanding that you think everyone is a pdp. I repeat Anyone that will support those ideals which are the responsibilty of govt, is Who Nigerians return, irrespective of your opinion

So, which candidate are you voting for?

Which candidate has spoken of the things you want.

Amsure you would vote PDP next year....as some of your opposite numbers will vote APC.

And the old show continues on....same old show...

SamoaUmaga:
This writeup is celebrating mediocrity

I am not an APC supporter....but why are you calling taking a 4bn loan from BOI and using it to sucessfully improve rice production mediocrity?

If that is mediocrity, then you need to think more clearly.

Fayose was an empty vessel....and yes, if he was in APC i would have said the same thing.

Baguda is miles ahead of Fayose.

Still, both governors are not doing something that needs to be done...investing in educaiton, especially techinical education....and also (cliche coming)...providingenabling environment for business.

Almaiga:
Dead on arrival (D.O.A). Nigerians are wiser now and they are ready to re-elected President Buhari come 2019.

And that is the problem....we are going to vote for the APC, a party that depends on sharing the money well...instead of making the hard decisions we need to prosper our economy.

Yes...APC saved money. Yes, we still have a relatively 'strong economy'....but corruption still thrives, we still throw away millions in the nameof subsidy, accountability is still an issue, and we still need more power, etc.

APC better start making the hard decisons so that things go better later. Not this dance and see politics.

jchioma:
We need a leader that will sign a pact with Nigerians to implement and carry through restructuring and true federalism, something which zai baba has openly disagreed with. We must take up our destiny and the time is now.

And have Atiku, Saraki and Tambuwal talked about that?

What did PDP do in the last 16 years to give us restructuring, true federalisim, etc? (And don't mention Jona's confrence that took secession off the table from the word go).?

And what is true federalisim.? Is it that the whole South South or South East and South South, or the whole South benefits from oil, while the North and Middle Belt can go and rely on agriuculture?

And why talk about true federalisim, when we still have corrupt people at all levels?

And by the way....which government, PDP or APC has talked about the real issue bothering Nigeria.....which is the fact that our economy is not producing stuff the world needs...and generating jobs as a result....yes what agenda does PDP or APC or any party have about that?

Your problem is the same as the sai barber people. You guys want an arrangement about sharing money. You don't want to develop Nigeria. You want to share money. Well....that is not how real life is...and the sooner we stop thinking that there is a national cake to be shared, the better.

We need a change in this country. And it starts by taking the hard decsion to become a manufactruing country, not a sharing and sharing country.

SamoaUmaga:
Hmm, Buhari shud be numba 6

The Politics page is right this way, sir....second door on the right, then the flight of stairs to the third floor.Room 206

Chai....OP wan put sand for somepeople'sgarri

Good post anyways....same goes for men too!

Six pack, six feet and above, muscular body, one hour and above in bed, etc....don't look for that in a man

Amarabae:
July is rounding up, August is around the corner.
May favour locate you in the new month to come
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I am going to be brief about this issue.
It's about those guys that love to complain bitterly about how they trained a lady in a higher institution with hope of marrying her after she graduates, only for the lady to graduate and dump him.
I have witnessed one, the guy a wealthy trader brought the girl from the village somewhere in the east,
Trained her in Uniabuja, she did a four years course, graduated and served in Oyo state, while in Nysc, she started giving the young man attitude in terms of communication,
When the surprised guy pressed hard to inquire About what the problem is from his "future wife "
The girl told him plain and pure that he should get another girl and marry, that if she get a job in the future, she may repay him all that he spent on her.
The downcasted young man attempted suicide by mixing rat poison in his food, it was unbearable for him,
All his profits he spent on this girl,
His friends warned him, his sister was not in support yet being a guy madly in love, how can you think he will listen to you.
Luckily he was revived at a hospital after a young cousin alerted his neighbors who rushed in and saw how life is trying to snuff out of him, they rushed him to the hospital for medical help.
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I felt so sorry for him .
Inasmuch as the girl was mean by playing with the young man emotion all along.
I strongly blame the young man for being stupid.
Had it been that he married the girl and then start training her, that's fine, many men do it.
But he placed his hope on that after training her, the girl will accept to marry him,
He took a risk but it backfired.
Had it been that he wanted to train her just for kindness sake and don't have any marriage objectives in mind, that would be understandable.
Both of them share in the blame.
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As a guy, Can you train a girl in higher institution with hope of marrying her after she graduates?
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As a girl, if a guy you don't have affection for offers to train you in the University, will you pretend to love him?
After graduating, if he proposes ,will you accept?

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Let's discuss

Thanks to the OP for this thought provoking topic. I had to ruminate for one hour before I could sit down and type a response.

Well, growing up, I knew two copules, friends of my parents, where the husband trained the wife. HOWEVER...unlike the example you gave, both husbands married the wife before they commenced the training. (Both ladies are doing very well by the way...one is even a grandmother.).

I think the problem is...when the man trains the woman before marrying her...IT IS A BUSINESS ARRANGEMENT. Love does not come into it..the girl is still free, as is the guy, and there is always that 'you owe me for all the money i spent for you'. in the relationship.

See, once you bring money into a romatic relaitonship...problems always start.

OK...man marries woman, then trains her...difference is, they are a married copule, they are making plans together, communicatiing together...it feels like a joint effort in love...with the idea of benefiting the family.

Not like the one where guy trains girl before marriage...each side is benefiting themselves.

Complicated matter.

Evergreen...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R84CMQjymyw

SIMPLYkush:
Ra's kimono koh raskitoto ni

Recieve a boatload of sense, indomie child.

Sterope:
We have a national church. Oh wait! How about a national pagan shrine?

If Nigerian traditional religionists can agree on a universal space...why not

Problem is,our trado religions are very very many and very very different. A Hausa pagan does not worship the same gods as a Yoruba, Ibo, Ijaw, Jukun,Tiv, Igala, etc pagan....

lozanni:
Go and read Alex Haley's 'ROOTS' to know which part of the country was popularly refered to as the 'SLAVE COAST'.

You guessed right, it was the South Wess.

The Slave Coast extended from the coast of Togo to Cameroon.

Slaves did not just come from the South Wess....many came from further inland..and some may have come from your part of the country.

Olaudah Equaino came from what is now Delta State, Samuel Ajayi Crowther came from what is now Oyo state, Ukasaw Gronisaw came from BornonState, Jaja of Opobo was originally from Imo State....

Alex Haley'sancestors came from the Gambia.

PastorandMentor:
I wan start church there. Any land for me?

The land in that area has been completely built up...and any free land would be very very costly.

frowland:
Seems you are young? Because I can remember that both christian association and their Muslim counterparts was giving same amount and choice lands for their buildings. I cannot really follow the news afterwards but I think Obasanjo had to still pump more funds for CAN to complete theirs. Talk of one diverting their money and the other making judicious use of their own money.

CAN did not divert funds...the N10million was not enough for what they were planning to build at the time...so they went the fundraisng route.

At one time, they tried to get every Chirstian in Nigeria to contribute N10 to the building funds.

Like you said...it took OBJ's intervention for the project to be completed.

Abubakarsiddeeq:
CAN and NSCIA both got N10 million for the building of a National mosque and church in Abuja in the 1980's.
Now Who are the they that have evil agenda ?
The CAN leaders that diverted the funds to be used for building the church?
Or
The Muslims that used the money to build the mosque

Neither CAN nor NSCIA (as you rightly pointed out) diverted funds.

N10 million was a lot of money in the late 80's...the problem was it was not enough for either CAN orNSCIA's building projects.

NSCIA got the extra cash from Saudi. CAN chose to go the direct fundrasier route...ie raise cash from Nigerian Chirstians...which was easier said than done. Eventually, the funds were gotten...and the Ecumenical center aka National Church was built.

(Lesson...never try to hold fundraisersin Nigeria...Nigerians are not rich )

thesicilian:
Seems the first thing built in the city was a mosque.

CAN and NSCIA both got N10 million for the building of a National mosque and church in Abuja in the 1980's.

CAN , I think, thought that N10million would not be enough, started fundraising for a National Ecumenical Center as early as 1992/3...and work started around that time, but was not complete till 2006.

There was a lot more to the above story though.

robotix:
So you mean Nigeria can not afford that money? do you realize that we have spent more than that figure already on same power?

1.Keep in mind that the money Egypt spent was a LOAN....while what we spent was over a period of years...not that a lump sum was paid to us.

2.For Nigeria...it is obvious we will need a LOAN for power...problem is...who will pay the loan....

deleo16:

Nice...BUT...

1.It cost Egypt A lot of money

The Ministry of Electricity had contracted with Siemens to establish three power plants with a total capacity of 14,400 MW through an EPC + Finance system. Siemens handled design, construction, and financing, while the EEHC will repay loans over several years.

Three German banks—KfW Development Bank, HSBC, and Deutsche Bank—secured funding for Siemens’ projects in Egypt, amounting to €4.1bn of a total contract value of €6bn. Arab banks secured the remaining funding in Egyptian pounds to pay for the Egyptian companies participating in constructions, including Elsewedy Electric and Orascom.

6billion Euro is about 2,503billion naira....or N2.5 trillion naira. (And most of that money is in LOANS)
SAUCE

texazzpete:
Don’t be silly. What of the taxes people already pay? What of the bloated budget the education ministry gets yearly?

What bloated budget.?

Education gets less than N1 trillion in this year's budget...that is for all the primary,secondary and tertiary schools in this country.

Meawhile...ASUU and FG in their 2009 agreement put the level of adequate funding for universities in Nigeria at N1.5 trillion naira.

The education budget is scanty (and badly managed and looted from and even padded...but that is another story).

Blue3k:
Just tax the citizens simple. 1500 naira wont kill anyone. If it does you're probably to poor to take your kids anyway. Imposing levy isnt legal as they already know. In my opinion most of these issues should be handled at state and local level.

Painful but true.

Most of these people complaining should go to countries like Demnark and Germany that have free educaiton...at the cost of high tax rates. (The Danes pay half their income in taxes).

If we tried that in Nigeria....everyone will put aside their differences and protest.

Here is the reason why government is looking for a levy...and why it may not be enough.

The thing is, our educaiton budget for this year was N800billion. Let that sink in. 800bn for all primary secondary , and tertiary schools in Nigeria run by government at all levels.

Back in 2009...ASUU and FG signed an agreement, that established that adequate funding for universities alone should be N1.5 trillion yearly.(And that is for federal universites alone).

So, based on these figures...we need about N5 trillion every year to fund education, and at the same time ensure the poor go to school for cheap.

N1000 levy won't be enough. I doubt everyone would pay, and it might not even provide N1 billion nationwide.

Here is another figure....oil is $70 per barrel. We need it at $140 per barrel as at last year to get a budget sufficient for all of our needs.

You see the problem.

So it is either

1.Oil prices go up...not going to happen

2.We increase fees, and create new fees ie levies.

3.We take another loan from the IMF and hope they will forgive us in the future (after we have looted half of it,,but thats another story)

Increasing fees and increasing levies is the least bad option.

Note...I am not saying that the poor don't deserve education. I am saying that Nigeria is not a rich nation,has never been a rich nation, (which is why it is bad this government does not fight corruption adequately...and many people voted for bubu because of his image as Mr Clean)...and either we face that reality and adjust...

Or take another loan.

SokoDobo:
Build/create what people want not necessarily what they need. With that, they will keep paying you for you product/service no matter what.

People do not need dstv/gotv to leave a happy life. meaning they can easily do without it. But the fact that people just want it, they keep paying for it despite all the bullshit exhibited by multi choice.


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Ladies and gentlemen...here is the only comment on this thread that is packed with wisdom...and I am not joking.

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franchasng:
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I was merely responding to the issues raised by Mr Okonkwo.

If you think I was here to attack Igbos, make fun of them, say that they are underdeveloped, or that they are bad....sorry, I am not that kind of person.

Take your anger elsewhere. In my opinion, all tribes are equal. Down with bigotry.

DeOTR:
Presidency won't help any region or tribe. Daura is still as backward as ever.
Nobody would care where the President comes from as long as the right things are done.
The issue of we want Presidency comes up because some people are left out in the national cake sharing. The only people Igbo Presidency will benefit are the same political elites who are enjoying everything now. Expect more at your own risk

Yes, that's why I don't even think we should be paying attention to presidency...if we were serious in this country, the important elections would be governorship and LGA.

Presidency really is just prestige.

I don't like commenting on these threads...but I will make an exception.

The man Kenneth has spoken the truth. And my saying this does not mean I hate igbos.

Right now, Ibo land is backing PDP. And right now, the only main candidates in PDP are Northerners.

So ndi Igbo has two options...

1.Vote for PDP...and hope that they get eight years in the VP post PLUS a possible igbo presidency in 2027

2.Vote for APC, and have a MUCH better argument for Ibo presidency in 2023...infact , both parties in 2023 under this arrangement could have Ibo candidates.

It is a tough choice. APC does not represent Ibo interests at all. PDP does.

Thing about politcs...you don't always get what you want. You have to make compromises.You also have to play the hand that is given you (gamblers who play cards will know what I am saying ) Buhari that got into power in 2015...got in by compromising with Yorubas, and Middle Belters. Jonathan in 2011 joined hands with Northerners, and some SW. And it was not because they all loved each other mind you.

If I was Ibo...I think I can vote for APC in 2019....not because I like APC, but because long term....in 2023...we could have an Ibo guy (not Rochas please, thank you)...in Aso Rock for eight years.

Voting for PDP...ok...if you are patient to wait till 2027.(Though an Ibo veep might be able to wield influence. VP's are not just spare tyres)

As for those chanting Biafra....Ike Ekweremadu has given you guys a roadmap you can follow...so you better follow it. Meawhile...there are realities on ground to be faced. Nigeria is one of them .Work within the framework called Nigeria.

hush15:
Nonesense....

We all know everything has time and season and if that doesnt favor Buhari, am sorry to say that it wasnt his time to be president or roughly put, God isnt on his side yet but since he chose to imposed himself on nigerians, he has not be using his brain but be chasing shadows and using force to make things work but only making thing worse.

Just last week, CBN cried out that this country has not been saving under this dispensation. Your incompetent president knows that the oil prices are low but he came up with the highest budget in the history of this country back to back. He just posted another supplementary budget of 242billion just for elections, another highest in entire history of this country... I can bet anything that if elections were free and fair, it wont cost one-third the amount to conduct elections but because there is a sinister move is the reason why he needs so much just for elections and you expect such a man to save. Nonsense.

We heard he withdrew 1billion dollars for security but we cant see the impact in benue, adamawa, zamfara, kaduna, yobe or those states challenged by security issues and you talk about saving.

He didn't reduce the cost of governance by any means. Even he himself gets treatment abroad and in 2 weeks he is going to waste taxpayers money again on another medical tourism and he expects oil prices to favor him.

They talked about diversification for the firat 2 years of their governmentbut one wasted money to golook for fuel in the north and you talk about saving. That goat after realizing that diversification is just a theory decided to go back to ekiti to be governor since he will in the front page all the time there.

Impossicant... even me wont favor him. Nigerians that did are regretting it. Intergrity my foot.

You made goodpoints, however....it is wrong to say that Bubu hasn't been saving.

He has.

What CBN complained about was that government was not saving with much zeal as it was before...

He said the committee was, however, concerned about the liquidity impact of the 2018 expansionary fiscal budget and increasing FAAC distributions due to rising prices of crude oil as well as the build up to election related activities.

On the declining foreign reserves from $47.7 billion in May to $47.2 billion in June, Emefiele said the development had nothing to do with politics as being insinuated.

“What is happening is as a result of US Federal Reserve Bank normalisation. Since the interest rate has gone up in the US, and other advanced economies, in an attempt to stimulate their economies, these money that moved into the emerging economies are now being taken back and this means there will be so much outflow of cash than inflows. And of course we have our own share of it.

“But it must be noted that Nigeria has performed better than other emerging markets around the world, with a stabilised exchange rate because we have been able to build enough buffers to support our currency and that is why the exchange rate has remained stable.

Or how do you explain our savings going up from $28bn in 2015 to $42bn today. With very low oil prices.?

I am a novice in car knowledge...but for me, in my years of driving...the electrical issues have always been battery related.
I dont think I have had an alternator issue yet....

Racoon:
-When the world is making good progress on technological advancement Nigeria is boasting of pencil production, doing desertification & erosion research.
Who swear for this country abeg

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While I don't think we need these new agencies..

1.Desertification is affecting the North adversely...it is even one of the reasons why Fulani Herdsmen are moving down south in their numbers...with the resultant friction and crisis. If we can stop desertificaiton, we could help reduce the crisis.

Plus..it won't be just Fulanis moving down south with the Sahara desert encroaching.

2.Erosion...a serious issue in the South East in particular. Solutions needed to be found there.

3.And all these fall under CLIMATE CHANGE SCIENCE...the new buzz world globally.

The government is not backward thinking. Where the problem is is that we already have exisiting bodies , especially in our universites..that can do the job of the proposed desertificaiton and erosion agency better.

rusher14:
Nothing wrong with it.

Everything wrong with it...where is the cash?

Can't universities and even exisitng research institutes do the job ?

He didn't write SAT?

Maybe his college is one of the few American colleges that does not accept SAT.