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 Christianity Etc › Re: God's Intervention Badly Wanted by Tonyet1(m): 5:13pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
Huxley, It is of importance you understand that the way of the light is to follow the teachings and examples of Christ in faith. When we do so, we see and experience the same thing as Christ did in the scriptures. Recall, we are not Jesus Christ, we are the followers of Jesus Christ, and as such it means WE ARE CONSTANTLY LEARNING the ways of Jesus Christ and his mighty acts. We may not get it all at first but with time in his word and constant faith we will do it. The disciples who witnessed Jesus in the flesh, who saw all the mighty deeds he performed still made their own mistakes/gaffes when cases similar to what Christ did was brought to them. Matt 17:15-21 15 Lord, have mercy on my son: for he is epileptic, and suffereth grievously; for oft-times he falleth into the fire, and off-times into the water. 16[b] And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him [/b] . . . 19 Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast it out? 20 And he saith unto them, Because of your little faith: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. 21(But this kind goeth not out save by prayer and fasting .) ASV You see even the disciples could not even perform as expected even though they dined and wined with the Great Christ himself. What is worth noting is that after the gaffes, Jesus christ came in and taught them how they ought to get result the next time it comes. These MOGs are not God, they are men with limitations who still suffer doubts too. hence they faulter or will i say perform little when faced with great challenges. Why? because they are still learning and growing in the grace of Jesus' might. When i believe in the power of Christ i can heal all many of sickness but not immediately, i must first learn to grow in the grace. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by Tonyet1(m): 4:51pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
KunleOshob:Kunle, A good christian should learn to understand the origin of words as used in the biblos before using them. This having said, you should note that to understand and grasp the essence of the term "love" will only make sense if one understands how the various forms of love are used and how they apply. The love Christ demonstrated on the cross is different from that between a Man and a woman. The love paul admonished in 1corinthians 13 was referring to the Agape ( a bible with reference will relate that passage with Matt.25:45, Rom.14:15 all pointing to the love shared and expressed within the confinement of our christian faith. Again pls dont misquote me, i have not said Christians should not share love to others outside the faith, but it is pertinent we know the kind of love we share. I have said it time and time here that if we do share such a sacred love outside to " hogs" they will trample on it because they barely understand its value. Matt 7:6 6 . . . do not throw your pearls {values of your faith} before hogs, lest they trample upon them with their feet and turn and tear you in pieces. AMP This is exactly what the christian faith is presently suffering, we have offered what was supposed to be our meal to a wicked world who barely understand its value, hence the introduction/infilteration of their belief system into our fold. Kunle, dont tell me i should be explaining more to you, i expect you to know. na wa o!  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by Tonyet1(m): 3:18pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
KunleOshob:LOVE: - 'ahebh' or 'ahabhah' : You shall love the lord with all your heart, strength and might (Mk.12:30) - 'phileo' : Peter said "lord you know that i love you(Jn.21:16) - 'agapao' or 'agape' : Let brotherly love continue(Heb.13:1) - 'philanthropia' : Silver and Gold i have not, what i have i'll give you (sharing) |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Congrats Pastor Agbaje, Goodluck Jonathan Now The Acting President Of Nigeria. by Tonyet1(m): 2:48pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
quote it out for all to read?  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by Tonyet1(m): 2:44pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
KunleOshob:Kunle, you can be so confusing atimes, who is a brother according to Jesus' definition,? It is anyone who does the will of Jesus' Father, now if you relate that to our time you'll agree with me that IT IS THE CHRISTIANS THAT FALL WITHIN THAT DESCRIPTION CALL BRETHREN BECAUSE IT IS ONLY THE CHRISTIANS THAT ARE KNOWN TO DO THE WILL OF THEIR FATHER hence i called brethren a christian. And again, Jesus considered the poor and needy in his time UNDER THE CONFINEMENT OF A BROTHERHOOD he called "THE HOUSEHOLD OF ISRAEL" and these were the one he gave priority before showing it unto others. Love is to be expressed to ALL dont get me wrong, but AGAPE LOVE is to be expressed within the confinement of the christian faith. do you understand? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Congrats Pastor Agbaje, Goodluck Jonathan Now The Acting President Of Nigeria. by Tonyet1(m): 2:27pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
Saul rebuked THE LIGHT TOO IN IGNORANCE, until THE LIGHT APPEARED TO HIM. yours may not be different |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Miracles Of Christ Were Immediate But Our Pastors' Own Happens Later. Why? by Tonyet1(m): 2:26pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
^^^ that was funny, but are u speaking from experience? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by Tonyet1(m): 2:00pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
KunleOshob:I wonder what is christian Love and what is agape love! KunleOshob:Yes he did not discriminate, but gave first priorities to the brotherhood when he said "I was sent to the HOUSEHOLD OF ISRAEL" , and again he said "WHY WOULD I GIVE TO DOGS WHAT IS MEANT FOR THE CHILDREN" wasnt that meant to be a brotherhood term showing priority? KunleOshob:Apologies! but your wrong. let see it again Matt 25:40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these [size=13pt]brothers of mine[/size], you did for me.NIV Now we should ask, who are these brothers. Matt 12:50 - "For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven [size=13pt]is My brother and sister and mother[/size]! AMP so you see, my brother is that christian, because he does the will of my father just like i do! hence priority. KunleOshob:Show scriptures pls.! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Congrats Pastor Agbaje, Goodluck Jonathan Now The Acting President Of Nigeria. by Tonyet1(m): 1:47pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
^^^Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you! trust me you're getting closer only a matter of time  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Miracles Of Christ Were Immediate But Our Pastors' Own Happens Later. Why? by Tonyet1(m): 1:43pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
I quite seem to agree with some of your reasons Alethia as regarding the deceit as practised by false prophets, BUT i still also think/believe that miracles should not only be pertinent to immediacy. Miracle simply means an extraordinary event that is not explicable to nature or scientific laws. Just because Jesus (peace be unto HIM) and his miracles were immediate doesnt mean miracles were designed and intended to be immediate. Its only important we understand the essence of miracles. Miracles are meant to reveal the Almightiness of the Father on his creations. It is meant to show forth as possibilities what the 5-senses of man would have concluded as IMPOSSIBLE. To me the time it occured doesnt matter, what matters is "if you believe God can do miracles, then He will do miracles". The ancients like Elisha predicted the miracle of rainfall after many years of draught and famine, yet it was recorded that his servant had to exercise faith and works for 7times before "he came back and said - "master i see an abundance of rain" yet in other places we read of how Elisha performed immediate miracles too. Now to our Lord Jesus (peace be unto HIM), in one of the miracles he performed, it was recorded that the first act didnt bring out the intended result, thus he did it ONCE MORE. Mark 8:22-26 22 They came to Bethsaida, and some people brought a blind man and begged Jesus to touch him. 23 He took the blind man by the hand and led him outside the village. When he had spit on the man's eyes and put his hands on him, Jesus asked, "Do you see anything?" 24 He looked up and said, "I see people; they look like trees walking around." -[result of the first act] 25 [size=15pt]Once more[/size] Jesus put his hands on the man's eyes. Then his eyes were opened, his sight was restored, and he saw everything clearly. 26 Jesus sent him home, saying, "Don't go into the village." NIV The first part - The man saw men as tree walking around The second part - The man saw everything clearly. God bless you! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Congrats Pastor Agbaje, Goodluck Jonathan Now The Acting President Of Nigeria. by Tonyet1(m): 12:55pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
@KunleOshobo, you see what happens when a christian pays and believes in the message of tithing. Congrats my man Joe Agbaje. God is always faithful!. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by Tonyet1(m): 12:48pm On Feb 18, 2010 |
Zikkyy: , Zikkyy my crazy job sent me to the production rig of mobil-eket offshores for a job so i think ur guess might be wrong! ."they grow from grace to grace they that appear in zion (scriptures) "so my change should be timely.Brother in my view, i think talking about unconditional love means offering to give up your all including your very life for your friend as the bible put it. Now dont get me wrong I aint saying one shouldnt show love to everyone around you and outside the faith. Agape Love that everyone talks about today by research simply means THE LOVE SHARED AMONGST THE BROTHERHOOD OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. anything outside it could mean/be another form of love. Take heroes/legends of nations for example, you'll hear of men and women who gave up their lives for the freedom of their people. Now this is love and sacrificial for that. But to say such a love is agape. is wrong. why? because it was never practised within the confinement of the christian faith. Yeah i sure show love to the muslims, i share with them what i can, i play and relate with the pagans and sinners in my hood. but then i dont think it'll be wiser to give them agape at the detriment of my needing brother, because if i do, then Matthew 7:6 will come to play. God bless you! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by Tonyet1(m): 11:26am On Feb 18, 2010 |
Good day Jagunlabi, Please dont get me wrong! According to scriptures, the kind of love Christians were admonished to practise was the agape, meaning the love we share within the brotherhood when we have communion. AGAPE - (ag'-a-pe) : The name Agape or "love-feast," is defined as an expression denoting the brotherly common meals of the early church, though of constant use and in the post-canonical literature from the time of Ignatius onward, is found in the New Testament only in Jude verse 12 and in 2 Peter 2:13 according to a very doubtful reading. (from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright © 1996, 2003 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.) This love should first be expressed to those you consider as your brothers (brethren),meaning their welfare should be your concern, their sorrow your sorrow their rejoicing your rejoicing. Now when this is practised, those who are not of the faith will see the expressions and will come to the knowledge of truth. Example was what Jesus expressed in Matt 7:6 6 . . . do not throw your pearls {values of your faith} before hogs, lest they trample upon them with their feet and turn and tear you in pieces. AMP Check the words in curly braces - values of your faith, the values of one's faith are love, faith, tolerance, peace, joy, temperance etc. now when one rather chooses to give it out to hogs then i wonder if such really understands the word LOVE. As for the early church, here was the demonstration of their faith: Acts 4:32-35: - All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. 34 There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need. NIV Now this is the Agape love. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by Tonyet1(m): 2:28pm On Feb 17, 2010 |
Kunle you'll never change. Kunle my brother the things we see in churches today really gat me thinking if we actually do know what it means to LOVE. Someone who professes to be a brother(brethren) will rather choose to loan cash to outsiders(unbelievers) with the hope of getting it back and with interests rather than giving a brother who desperately needs it to help his dieing wife in the hospital. A friend of mine lost his wife on saturday becos his friend and "professed/church acclaimed brother" would rather choose to give it out. i went offshores and came back to discover this. And men i havent been myself all day. To me Christians are just pretenders. WE DO NOT KNOW THE TINIEST MEANING OF THE WORD "LOVE". |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by Tonyet1(m): 2:09pm On Feb 17, 2010 |
@Poster, I wonder if Christians today really practise this LOVE, rather what we find are pretense and imitations of LOVE. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Must Win A Nobel. by Tonyet1(m): 5:40pm On Feb 05, 2010 |
^^ I sold it last week for a new one. but the poster seem not to have anything better saying |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastor Adeboye Must Win A Nobel. by Tonyet1(m): 5:30pm On Feb 05, 2010 |
Dont people have better things to do than gossip about some guy who barely knows you nor your existence! |
| Romance › Re: Is It Worth Taking? by Tonyet1(m): 5:27pm On Feb 05, 2010 |
Its not advisable |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Happened? by Tonyet1(m): 5:16pm On Feb 05, 2010 |
My man Mr.Kunleoshod has been gone for a while too! am beginning to miss him! |
| Jokes Etc › Re: When The Children Talk! by Tonyet1(m): 3:57pm On Feb 05, 2010 |
Traugott:But i thought Eve was created naked!  |
| Jokes Etc › Re: The Likely Scenario Library. by Tonyet1(m): 3:51pm On Feb 05, 2010 |
@Sam Can i be getting doz f/book jokes on SMS daily?  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Tonyet1(op): 6:40pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
Enigma:Stop being childish here, show everyone in clear text a passage that TITHING IS ANULLED! enough of jumping here and there, and if you come up here to tell us it was a LAW then pls do well to show where it was stated that TITHING IS/WAS A LAW.  |
| Sports › Re: Give Three Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Or Be Sacked by Tonyet1(m): 6:32pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
2tait:Just a question for you 2tait, WHAT IS THE JOB ROLE OF A MANAGER? maybe if you dont understand the question i'll ask it this way- WHO IS A MANAGER? your answer to this question will determine alot here. period! |
| Sports › Re: Give Three Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Or Be Sacked by Tonyet1(m): 6:19pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
2tait:Geeezzzzzzz, did you say Amodu has nothing to do with training himself, let me ask, on which groung did the glass house invite Amodu to saddle the responsiblity? was it not because He posed himself as having enough refreshers training more than the other nigeria coaches wayback 2008 and also on the grounds of his old and irrelevant accolades like the laurels of BCC lion of Gboko bullshitsss?. Lulu et al, are keeping that guy there simply for the gains they scoop monthly from his salary and each time when asked their reasons for still keeping him there, they come up to tell us "HE IS STILL THE MOST PROFICIENT COACH WITH CERTIFICATES OF THE GAME" and i keep wondering what could be proficient about a man who over 130million africans know has nothing to offer the team "SUPER EAGLES". Since he came on the grounds of being the only one with professional skills (old skill since 2008) because he went for some trainings since 2008, then the only thing to make him keep his job is to update himself PERSONALLY and prove it convincingly with friendly matches and that with good teams. Note: In his contract document, he has provisions for refreshers training. what is he doing with that money. Nigerians are not fools! |
| Sports › Re: Give Three Reasons Why Amodu Should Remain Or Be Sacked by Tonyet1(m): 5:35pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
I beg to give only reasons for time: My case #1: Soccer le' Mondial is a dynamic game in nature, the skills of yesternite may only be found obsolete this next moment you wake up. It takes thru' professionals and technocrats in the game to acquaint themselves with the trends of the times. Managers worldwide go for trainings and appraisals thus they are continually relevant because the footballers are a product of the skills of the Managers. Recently I was listening to a commentary about Nigeria and our new FIFA ranking and it was noted that our problem has got 75% to do with the manager in the person of Amodu, that guy has not gone for any refreshers nor appraisals since February last year, yet he is been assigned the task of managing A NATIONS FOOTBALL TEAM. How pathetic Reason he should go:NO ONE WITHOUT TIMELY REFRESHER COURSE CAN MANAGE A GOOD NATIONAL TEAM _____________________________________________________________________________ My case #2: A good leader is simply a function of good followers. If one must succeed then such ought to gather gangs of professionals for counselling, technical skills as well as analytical. No one should assume to know it all. which is where Mr.Amodu keeps failing time and time again. I seem not to understand what could actually be wrong with that guy, YOU DONT KNOW EVERYTHING YET YOU CLAIM THE CONTRARY. Everyone looking at our eagles at the just concluded ACN, you'll realize that Analytical advice was lacking, medical counselling was found wanting else why would one go to a big tournament as that with band of Injured soldiers. He was even advised to seel counselling and in the face of over 100million football loving fans of Nigeria, he turned down the offer. Reason he should go: HE LACKS THE WILL TO INVITE GOOD HANDS TO HELP HIM OUT ASSUMING HE KNOWS IT ALL |
| Christianity Etc › Re: End Of Ceasefire by Tonyet1(m): 5:07pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
Abu u r sounding like a child. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Who Says Tithing Is Not New Testamental? by Tonyet1(op): 4:51pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
Enigma:There is a change, what then is your point? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: End Of Ceasefire by Tonyet1(m): 4:46pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
Abu Zola:Look at this Islamic poo feeling like doz aboki that pushes water truck to my flat. Abu you are truly some la la boi  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: End Of Ceasefire by Tonyet1(m): 4:41pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
toba: |
| Romance › Re: Is It Me Or Its Just What Ladies Have Turned To Now? by Tonyet1(m): 2:42pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
There is this adage that says "person weh nail chuk for leg, next time if him c pin im go jump up", your mind has become a victim of delusion. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: End Of Ceasefire by Tonyet1(m): 2:24pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
 , lets discuss in that thread and leave this place. Or aint you proud of your religion,, defend it? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: End Of Ceasefire by Tonyet1(m): 2:21pm On Feb 04, 2010 |
Abu Zola:Ask me? |
the fact that their is a special greek word for brotherly love does not mean that that is what christian love is limited to. I guess you should go and check out the greek words for the love word Jesus used during his commandments to love. Jesus command was to love our neighbours as our selves, he also commanded us to love our enemies and do good to them that hate us. is he refering to our "christian" brethen here too?1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ... 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 (of 77 pages)