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Christianity EtcRe: Assisting A Friend Or Pay Tithe. by Tonyet1(m): 5:44pm On Mar 29, 2010
Parallel you said?
Matt.23:23 (NKJV) - Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin and have neglected the weightier matters of the law; justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done without leaving the others undone

Matt 23:23 (TLB) "Yes, woe upon you, Pharisees, and you other religious leaders-hypocrites! For you tithe down to the last mint leaf in your garden, but ignore the important things-justice and mercy and faith. Yes, you should tithe, but you shouldn't leave the more important things undone

Matthew 23:23 (HEPV) - And Jesus said to them : practise mercy, practise Justice, practise faithfulness and[b] also i say to you do not neglect to practise Tithing.[/b]


What is parallel in Jesus commanding the folks to do others without leaving the other undone at least i did not write those versions.
Christianity EtcRe: Assisting A Friend Or Pay Tithe. by Tonyet1(m): 5:37pm On Mar 29, 2010
Does it matter if i pay in monetary income or agricultural income? what should matter is that bible says tithe should be payed from one's increase and i get mine in monetary terms therefore i give mine in monetary terms. A farmer gets his/her increase in agricultural terms and thus pays such in agricultural.

*what matters is Tithe was commanded and we ought to follow the commandements of Jesus Christ*
Christianity EtcRe: Assisting A Friend Or Pay Tithe. by Tonyet1(m): 4:58pm On Mar 29, 2010
KunleOshob:
Quote at least one scripture in it's proper context that asks christians or even jews to "pay" tithes cos as far as i know there is no were in the bible were people were asked to "pay" tithes.
Matthew 23:23 (Hebrew- English paraphrased version) - And Jesus said to them : practise mercy, practise Justice, practise faithfulness and also i say to you do not neglect to practise Tithing
Christianity EtcRe: New Mod In The Religion Section by Tonyet1(m): 4:53pm On Mar 29, 2010
Reasons for my absenteeism has'bn my preparation for a certification exam lately. 

*PM-Energy upstream professional exam, hope to write it this friday. pls pray for me.
Christianity EtcRe: New Mod In The Religion Section by Tonyet1(m): 4:45pm On Mar 29, 2010
J-baby congrats, smiles and joy are understatements where i am here. hope u wont be deleting my Tithe/offering threads  cheesy cheesy cheesy
Nairaland GeneralRe: 50 Men and Women That Moved Nairaland: 2005-2010 by Tonyet1(m): 12:01pm On Mar 29, 2010
r231:
me too i dey VEX o cheesy grin grin

^^ no vex, truth is that those nominees really deserve those awards if you've actually been reading their posts. For me i will include Sienna too
Christianity EtcRe: Following The Word Of God by Tonyet1(m): 6:41pm On Mar 11, 2010
Fhemmmy:
God will never tell you to do that.
God can tell you to do that. Scriptures had instances of it.
Christianity EtcRe: Buddhism by Tonyet1(m): 6:33pm On Mar 11, 2010
DeepSight,

During the week a friend offered me the book "Leading a Buddhist Life:The Precept - Shakyamuni in the Dhammapada". Here is what it said about Buddhism,

Buddhism is the most profound and wholesome education directed by the Buddha towards all people. Five precepts are the curriculum of Buddhist teaching, which are embraced in the moral code of Buddhism. By observing precepts, not only do you cultivate your moral strength, but you also perform the highest service to your fellow beings. The Five Precepts areand I'll love to share the five precepts upon which the worlds #5th largest religion stands upon

Five Precepts  

1. Do not kill (Panatipata)
2. Do not steal (Adinnadana)
3. Do not indulge in sexual misconduct (kamesumicchacara)
4. Do not make false speech (Musavada)
5. Do not take intoxicants

*I am still reading the 800-paged book*

Something struck me when i read those lines above and i thought to myself, are not these outlines the same as was given to the nation of Israel by God (The Ten commandments)?The answer is Yes!.

Regardless of the name it bears in other religions, to me it still carries the same essence (The message) as was its origin.

Your biase is against Christianity (Pls correct me if i am wrong) thus you choose to extend the sentiment to the Christian's God. But you fail to realise that this same "Christian's God" has never been confined to any religion be it Christianity likewise His words (which make up His very nature).Trust me i know what others may be thinking.

To the nation and people of Israel before Jesus, He was revered within Judaism. While in the flesh (ie. Jesus) He never brought any Religion, His disciple did


Mark 9:38 -  "Teacher," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.
NIV


Here was Jesus reply

39 "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me,

40 for whoever is not against us is for us.NIV


Christ did not come to create a religion, He came to redeem mankind. Christ connotes more of a concept than a person. He existed in the word-form before He existed in the flesh-form. Now in the word-form He was Love, Forgiveness, Mercy, Protection and so on. Therefore whoever practises these things practises Christ!

That was why Paul was bold to assert this


Acts 17:23 For as I walked around and looked carefully[b] at your objects of worship[/b] (Idol worshippers), I even found an altar with this inscription: TO AN UNKNOWN GOD. Now what you worship as something unknown I am going to proclaim to you. NIV

With this, i feel any body, Religion or community that professes the very essentials that make up the totality of God does worship God thru' Christ (the concept that in-dwelt Jesus)
Christianity EtcRe: Make Your Own Predictions/prophecies Here by Tonyet1(m): 12:07pm On Mar 11, 2010
Realvoice:
Tonye-t, you say and I quote "Adeboye keeps silent ya'll will go spreading sarcasm against him, now he's made a prophecy and we all go on making mockeries."

Please state the predictions/prophecies and tell whether they are vague or precise? [/b]That's what this is thread is about, making general statements and calling them prophecies.
Oh i see, so you're asking me to state the predictions Mr.Adeboye made, but i thought mr.thread-opener made a reference to the predictions in the initial?

Pls read your OP again,


Realvoice:
[b]I was just reading a post and interesting discussions about the predictions of Pastor Adeboye
. I personally have always thought his predictions (and generally all pastors perdictions) are vague and too broad.
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Realvoice:
Tonye-t, you say and I quote "Adeboye keeps silent ya'll will go spreading sarcasm against him, now he's made a prophecy and we all go on making mockeries."

Please state the predictions/prophecies and tell whether they are vague or precise? That's what this is thread is about, making general statements and calling them prophecies.
Bro, but i thought your thread was about making silly predictions, how come you're now saying the thread is about making mockeries about the simple man -Adeboye, i see now, u must really be a SARCASTIC person. And i mean it.!

Mr.RealVoice pls go and create some good thread, something that can edify others.
Christianity EtcRe: Natural Disaster Will Soon Hit Nigeria - Adeboye by Tonyet1(m): 11:39am On Mar 10, 2010
Making mockeries aint a good habit, it connotes jealousy, biases, and folly. No matter the mockeries we'all make against some people it wont ever make them change or stop them from attaining great heights in life.

John the baptist came and would not eat, the people called him a demon-man.

Ok! Jesus came eating and drinking, the people called him a glutton-man and wine-consumer!

Adeboye keeps silent ya'll will go spreading sarcasm against him, now he's made a prophecy and we all go on making mockeries.

wont it be wise to seat and consider "what if this man is saying the mind of God"


Prov 14:16 A wise man suspects danger and cautiously avoids evil, but the fool bears himself insolently and is confident AMP


I read someone asking why Adeboye never predicted the recent Jos crisis, and i wonder if we read scriptures and rationalize passages at all.

Was it not in Jesus' time, John the baptist was beheaded? why didnt Jesus or any OT prophets predict the beheading talk less of the death of John.

Now would it be wise to presume that simply because Jesus or any other never predicted John's death meant Jesus was fake?We must realise that this men are made of flesh and bones like us, but were just privilaeged to lead us, they have their strengths and weaknesses too.

Let be mindful who we talk against, lest we might just end up like Miriam!

God bless you!
Christianity EtcRe: The Acts Of Jesus by Tonyet1(m): 11:14am On Mar 10, 2010
huxley:
Did Jesus ever kill anyone? Does Jesus plan on killing anyone in the future?
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Did Jesus ever kill anyone? Does Jesus plan on killing[/color] anyone in the future?
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[color=#000099]When ran it showed me ERROR in 7, word 4 & word 10, you might just need to rephrase that keyword, so u dont get urself confused Huxley.
Christianity EtcRe: Make Your Own Predictions/prophecies Here by Tonyet1(m): 11:08am On Mar 10, 2010
ilosiwaju:
xcuse me?
Realvoice:
@ Tonye-t, the sin being committed is people not using their heads and swallowing the cock n bull stories of these so called men of God. See where religion has gotten us to in this country, almost at the brink of a religious war. I pray we don't get there.

Oya, make your predictions jor.
Making mockeries aint a good habit, it connotes jealousy, biases, and folly. No matter the mockeries we'all make against some people it wont ever make them change or stop them from attaining great heights in life.

John the baptist came and would not eat, the people called him a demon-man.

Ok! Jesus came eating and drinking, the people called him a glutton-man and wine-consumer!

Adeboye keeps silent ya'll will go spreading sarcasm against him, now he's made a prophecy and we all go on making mockeries.

wont it be wise to seat and consider "what if this man is saying the mind of God"


Prov 14:16 A wise man suspects danger and cautiously avoids evil, but the fool bears himself insolently and [b]is confident[/b]AMP


I read in one of the threads of someone asking why Adeboye never predicted the recent Jos crisis, and i wonder if we read scriptures and rationalize passages at all.

Was it not in Jesus' time, John the baptist was beheaded? why didnt Jesus or any OT prophets predict the beheading talk less of the death of John.

Now would it be wise to presume that simply because Jesus or any other never predicted John's death meant Jesus was fake?We must realise that this men are made of flesh and bones like us, but were just privilaeged to lead us, they have their strengths and weaknesses too.

Let be mindful who we talk against, lest we might just end up like Miriam!  smiley smiley

God bless you!
Christianity EtcRe: How To Tell Your Parents You Are Becoming A Satanist. by Tonyet1(m): 8:15pm On Mar 09, 2010
Ogaga i thihnk ur name should be ogaga4satan nd not ogaga4luv. because my bible says God is love cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Make Your Own Predictions/prophecies Here by Tonyet1(m): 8:12pm On Mar 09, 2010
Guys dont u think you are making mockeries of God's servant. IT IS A SIN
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are The Big Churches/ Pastors Not Help The Up Coming Ones. by Tonyet1(m): 5:02pm On Mar 08, 2010
nuella2:
Kunle Oshobi how did you know they see the church as thier personal property? OK you feel so but they have not said so abi? so stop putting words into thier mouth [size=15pt]elder[/size].
cheesy cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor: Fake Or Real! by Tonyet1(m): 5:01pm On Mar 08, 2010
[quote author=rich_john link=topic=408461.msg5650699#msg5650699 date=1268063302]@joagbaje
Its unscriptural, Jesus didn't collect offering paul didnt collect offering/tithe/firstfruit etc, peter, james key man of christianity never collected offering. in fact it was the opposite jesus fed 5000 on one occasion 4000 on another occasion he never collected a dime the church was busy feeding the needy and the ones that were lacking not buying private jets, luxury yacht, or making 'jerry curl' and doing 'super sunday' so based on scriptures you fall headlong grin
I find it hard to digest why people are christians its either of these 2 things deliberate ignorance or extreme delusion wink[/quote]@rich_john,

The products of a man's heart can spew trash when allowed to drift from the truth, simple dignity is gained by keeping silent when one doesnt know what they are saying.

Simple remedy for you is to google this "did paul collect offering in the bible?" maybe those trash up here will change for good angry angry undecided undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor: Fake Or Real! by Tonyet1(m): 4:18pm On Mar 08, 2010
Its really so amazing to see how some folks will jum-ascend to issues relating to money and finance.

Yet what they fail to realise is that bible isnt concerned about who's rich financially or who's poor in finance, but the well-being of the spiritual man.

What remains a fact is that whichever way we look at God, He is! same for his words in Christ Jesus.

To a rich man aspiring material wealth: He sees Jesus as the man dressed in purple robe and eats with Tax-collectors what we call/see as "corrupt political and oil magnates" today

To a poor man seeking comfort in his low state: He sees Jesus as the man who never had a house to rest his head, the man who could not afford a coin to pay for taxes and so on.

Now what is so dynamic about scriptures is that they have quotes to butress their claims, but the onus should be to serve God in humility, purity and spirit whether you're rich or not for God only checks the heart to see those who are for his or for the devil.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor: Fake Or Real! by Tonyet1(m): 3:54pm On Mar 08, 2010
So because you saw it on some dailies makes it worth discussing? pathetic!  angry angry

Ogajim,

Trust me there are so much to enjoy in the christian faith that makes worthless the act of scrutiny,

I rememeber in my hood in the mid-80's, Pastors and anyone who professes the christian faith were tag paupers because of the way they appear. so tattered you just wonder what disgusting a faith could be that they profess, such that they were avoided, they were rejected as if they stank. Now the crux was that there were still fake christians as well as genuine ones among the crowd.

In the Mid-90's the christian faith was largely embrassed by educated people whose enlightement required that they looked good and decent, this new midset brought some good things as well as wrong too. The faith is emassed with all kinds of people, the rich preachers who serve God genuinely as well as the rich preachers who pretend and fake the faith.

Now would it be wise to presume that becos some rich preachers fake the faith mean that all rich preachers are fake too. does it make sense?

On a serious note, i feel its not worth it lurking thru' dailies and every available media seeking which preacher is fake and who's not, what matters is "keep the commandements of God in Christ" "be transformed by the constant renewing of my mind" "view my being thru God's mirror and pray to correct my flaws" rather that focusing if Adeboye is a thief for buying a Jet, or Pastor Chris is gay for jerlling his hairs, or if Oyedepo is cultist for using anointing oil.  sad sad


Christianity EtcRe: A Weeping Prophet by Tonyet1(m): 3:06pm On Mar 08, 2010
Dont really think its dat necessary rather the world needs you and me to stand up and live like the children of the light.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Pray - ”Let Thy Will Be Done”? by Tonyet1(m): 3:00pm On Mar 08, 2010
Mr Joe pls take it easy sha! your posts are becoming too questionable ! smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor: Fake Or Real! by Tonyet1(m): 2:48pm On Mar 08, 2010
ogajim:
I came across this recently in a Nigerian publication and thought I should pass it on and see where the debate leads:

(1) His Sermons/messages are always on happiness, joy and says God is always merciful to forgive sins, He is FAKE
Mr Ogajim, now i see , what has preaching happiness, joy and mercy have to do with FAKERY. So you've become so confused and self-deluded now that anyone who preaches such is now termed FAKE. hmmm atleast i now see one who refuses to  get rid of the LOG in his eyes while spotting specks in a brothers eye.

ogajim:
(2) A pastor that 99% of his message is about things of this World- mansions, prosperity, cars, etc. If he is to give testimony about proof of his ministry, it is about the latest cars, houses, clothes or places he has visited.
This is more disgusting!, did you check the percentage with your meter?, the problem is with you my friend,  how? its said that "when you've got a bias on someone who hardly see a right in their act". You need to get rid of that red glasses lest your world will always been seen as red.  wink wink

ogajim:
(3) Pastors doesn't talk about Heaven and doesn't direct peoples' heart to God and only preaches God as a father Christmas; messages mostly on what God can do for you and not what you can do for God, does not tell you to repent and get out of unGodliness and do what's right.
God! Ogajim you're really disappointing. trust me! What else do you want from this men. If they preach hell hell. its the same you that'll go out crying anr criticising them.

Matt 11:18-19

18 For John came neither eating nor drinking [with others], and they say, He has a demon!

19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking [with others], and they say, Behold, a glutton and a wine drinker, a friend of tax collectors and [especially wicked] sinners! Yet wisdom is justified and vindicated by what she does (her deeds) and by her children. AMP


Ogajim, the scriptures said wisdom is known and justified by her children. If you keep complaining you'll hardly get what God has in store for you. Refrain from judging people and learn to seek the path of truth and wisdom. Its an advise!

ogajim:
(4) Every Sermon ends in offering or raising money, almost everything can be redeemed with money
So is that a bias? Have you ever thought if those money(s) are raised for the needy, widow and orphans? na wa 4 u o! angry sad sad

ogajim:
(5) Pastor whose church members live very unrighteous public and private lives.
So since when did you become Judge to scrutinize people's conduct when you've got a load of urs to sort out. PHARISEES -  they always see the wrong people do without taking care of theirs first. undecided undecided

Ogajim there is a whole lot to enjoy in the christian faith than spending one's whole day lurking for whom to devour.!  undecided undecided undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Natural Disaster Will Soon Hit Nigeria - Adeboye by Tonyet1(m): 2:24pm On Mar 08, 2010
debetmx:
Adeboye makes very vague predictions. I could remember at the beginning of the year he said Some Nigerians would become rich. Please i ask which year did some people not become rich?

hatch: u seem to have being brainwashed by some men of God who use the bible to enslave people
^^^ Oga! Is there anything wrong in making predictions? whats wrong in saying some people will be rich this year?

Afterall some apostles even made such when they said " in the last days perilious times shall come" even when perilious times occur everyday, every month and every year.

I think its right you understand the preds better.  angry angry angry
EventsRe: Happy Birthday Iice! by Tonyet1(m): 12:01pm On Mar 08, 2010
who's he/she? ahha i remember! the lady that creates her style with a PURPLISH color. i see!

i wish her a HAPPY BIRTHDAY too!
Christianity EtcRe: My Daily Spiritual Expressions by Tonyet1(op): 5:17pm On Mar 01, 2010
[center]I weep for Love

Gunne! Reel-gunne!!
Was the screams I heard deep within
The voice was noisy- foisty I will call it
The echoes I feel for the mother I once relish
Was She made from the finest woods called cherish
Offered was her bossom to lost sojourners
Over and again all strangers sucked
With stretched arms each one gained life
Suddenly for a second i saw them strong again
And love was the child she begat for them

Gunne! Reel-gunne!!
Agape was the name she called him
The community of lifers cheered him
Soon her son grew in strength
Then come the time to reward her
Evil they packaged in containers, in many containers
Like shippers towing cargoes through the great sea
With sneers they made haste to offer Agape their lot

Gunne! Reel-gunne!!
So this is how madame’ will be rewarded?
So this is how she will be paid back?
So this is the reward for sacrifice?

I wish Madame never came at first
Agape would have never come then

Reel-gunne!

(01/03/10)
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Christianity EtcMy Daily Spiritual Expressions by Tonyet1(op): 5:13pm On Mar 01, 2010
[center]My Times Are In Thy Hands

Such Hands As Thine
Can Never Fall Not Faulter
My Times, My Goings, And My Comings
Thou Dost Know,
So String-Such Hands
So Wise In All Their Moving,
Directing Worlds And All The Teeming
Nations Here Below!

Thy Hands, My God,
Are Holding Me!
My Times So Small They Seem
As I Compare
Thy Hands Which Wrote The Law
And Shook The Mountains
Those Hands Deal Tenderly With Me In Care!

My Times, Thy Hands!
Sweet Peace I Find In This, O Lord,
And Grace To Meet The Problems Of Each Day.
So I Put My Hand In Thine,
O God My Father;
And Holding Thus Will Walk My Brief
And Earthly Way!

(29/02/10)
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Christianity EtcRe: The Forbidden Fruit Mystery! by Tonyet1(m): 3:32pm On Mar 01, 2010
^^^ dont you think dao mean saying the stories of Abraham et al b4 Moses were all spiritual. Afterall a write wrote them all with genealogical nodes

Adam -> Seth->. . . Abraham->Isaac et al
Christianity EtcRe: Mysterious Secrets Of The Dark Kingdom by Tonyet1(m): 3:29pm On Mar 01, 2010
^^ because you just wasted seun's space huh
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Pple Sin More On Sundays by Tonyet1(m): 2:59pm On Mar 01, 2010
"The carnal man knoweth not the things of the spirit. why? Because they are spiritually discerned".

Want to know why God interferes in human affairs?Because Man is a product of God, Man is a projection of/from God , Man houses the spirit of God therefore God aint complete without Man likewise Man aint complete without God.

I wish u'll understand
Christianity EtcRe: The Forbidden Fruit Mystery! by Tonyet1(m): 2:47pm On Mar 01, 2010
@Poster,

There was no such thing as forbidden fruit, rather "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"


Gen 2.:

16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;

17 but you must not eat from the[b] tree of the knowledge of good and evil[/b], for when you eat of it you will surely die." NIV


By eating the fruit they had knowledge to discern what was good and bad, inotherwords Man began to think like God, in hebrew it is called "da±at" meaning moral cognition.
RomanceRe: For Love Will You Marry A Jobless Man? by Tonyet1(m): 9:00am On Feb 27, 2010
THE AMAKA:
[color=#ff00cc]WHY WOULD ANYONE MARRY SOMEONE WHO IS NOT FINANCIALLY STABLE?
DIDN'T YOU READ WHAT I WROTE?!?!
i said that doesn't mean i'll leave you, i just can't marry someone who doesn't have a job.
any man that gets married and doesn't have a job is an idiot anyway
. i mean for crying out loud!!!! HOW DO YOU INTEND TO SUPPORT ONCE YOU START A FAMILY?
this is only logical. only a person with no brain will get married with no money in his account.[/color]
hmmmm, then prolly we aint gat no lessons on Marriage yet, do we? The problem today is that we want the perfect marriage and perfect home, but sorry gal there aint no such thing as perfect

what happens if u get married to the one who's got "a job" a drug biz that is and later got a life sentence with finance confiscated where would YOUR STABLE FAMILY NOW RELY ON. have YOU thought about that. Marriage aint about having a Job or stable biz, its about under[b]stand[/b]ing

Stand : standing for each other  wink
RomanceRe: For Love Will You Marry A Jobless Man? by Tonyet1(m): 6:07pm On Feb 26, 2010
THE AMAKA:
[color=#ff00cc]we can date, but we can't get married until he has a secured job.
you people are making it seem like it means "either get a job, or im out the door"
i can wait for you to get a financially stable job, and THEN we can talk about walking down the isle.[/color]
Ammie,

Whats the use waiting for him when u cant get into it with him. Should i take it that you prolly want him to struggle with life and finances first b4 coming to pick his royal princess. whatever happened to wife and help-mates. undecided

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