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Now this is what am talking about! Thanks very much. I actually went to Ikea for inspiration last weekend. Im looking at their Kitchenettes. There are so many ideas that i have gotten. I will like to patronize our cabinet maker in Nigeria. I have couple of ideas and i will like to see if someone in Lagos or Ogun state can develop a replica for me.

Also because of my floor layout, I need clean line kitchen like the attached.
Thank very much. I like the video.

msogunro:
I was in Ikea picking up a few things and I saw a display for a 250 sqft studio (BQ). I immediately thought about your L-Pad studio. Just in case you need some inspiration, I captured a video of the space.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH1Jf_gcIvU

its more economical to build as cluster, but i want to differentiate my project from the many to come in that area. The Studio apartment idea will saturated the whole town soon; you know how our people are when they see that there is money to be made!

I want my to be the exclusive one; and i believe it will be, because not many of our people will purposely minimize the use of such prime land.

erico2k2:
Looks good so far so good.but I still think it should be built as clusters.We shall see how it pans out

More picture update for all...My new Team are on their A game thus far.

The question i want to ask is simple: WHO OWN THE LAND? LANDLORD RIGHT?... so i own a land that i can not build on? If its a permit issue, why not seal the shop until the permit fee is paid. The issue of permit has to do with usage right? I read somewhere that the want to stick to residential but yet they are asking them to PAY 40M, FOr what my people? its either the area is resident or commercial!!! there shouldnt be asking for money if the usage is wrong; they should just announce that they have violated the usage code and it will be demolish. period

kokobongo:
The state government last week announced she will be clamping down on illegal structures starting from the island i.e. Ikoyi, VI and Lekki etc this is the beginning ..... I know that structure it's illegal it's was just newly constructed as an attachment to an old building. If u notice the main building wasn't knocked down. I can say permit wasn't gotten for that. But the state had already announced it was going to take down such structures. It's unfortunate biz has been taken away from people. But the government did give warnings, the landlord should return rent, pls folks should alert their people who run biz in such buildings to take note cause the govt will come like a thief in the night. This again is not new to Ikoyi cause u wake up in the morning and notice ur neighbors house is no more. But this only happens to illegal structures and illegal tenants

The roof framing is complete and waiting to add Long Span Aluminum overlay.

The last time I assumed, my lovely tree was murdered but I was able to save my Palm tree... Thank God I received the picture before they got to it.

Larwin:
Pls don't assume O, they know d right thing to do truly but if you don't supervise well or instruct they will just be doing as it please dem ni. So far their work seems to b making sense.



https://www.nairaland.com/3236298/know-geophysical-investigation-borehole-drilling

I will start to work on that asap. thank you Sir

mufutau55:
Fence it right away even if it is 4 courses of blocks, just to demarcate your land.

Hajji M.

you are absolutely right. Its in my home town where I don't feel the need to do fence till later when its time for landscape but I guess am wrong; town people don dey do Omo onile wahala things for my small town too.

DankemzI:
Nice Work. But you should have fenced your property first. Knowing how Nigerians are

Hi,

The width is 4.5m respectively and the length is roughly 7M.

msogunro:
Finally following. I've been looking for this thread for a long time, but couldn't find it.

True2home, is each unit approximately 3.5 meters wide

Hello NL,

we commence the roof work today. All is well for now.

The Neighbors on both sides are prompting me to fence soonest cos one buried is late wife, one feet into my property line. I forgo it and counted it as honest mistake. Now the same guy is building his foundation to close to the property line again. Im not going to be so nice this time. I plan to fence right on the property line and I will not care if it blocked off his windows.

The other side, the guy went ten feet beyond his property line and build a corner piece. But he admitted that it was a mistake on the Bricklayer and he will correct it.

Anyways, attached are some update pictures, enjoy while I go find money to do fence sharp sharp!!!

Oga, You fall our hand ooo!!! you did not share the TIPPING to us your PEOPLE... we are suppose to be BROTHER AND SISTERS for here. Pls dont let this repeat itself again; you hear me lol

spyder880:
One major dealer tipped me off and I paid for 1000 bags of cement at N1450 last week. If you see how I dey laugh like person wey win lottery today

I store cement at major dealer stores, I pay for larger quantities and pick them up in 100 and 50s .

Hi Fellows,

Some work was performed on site recently. Fired the original builder and hired a new one. We can not have a population of over 170M and still be dealing with lazy and bad contractors. If you not ready to follow simple instruction and do good honest work, then i will fire you and hire the next guy. There are lots of people that need the opportunity.

Next;

We finished structural work and getting set for roof work in a couple of days. Attached are some pictures. Thanks

While am still very young, I do agree with Dio's view. I don't get involve in peoples problem back home. I help those that are trying and ignore the rest that are lazy. My local friends are often time refer to the ones from US when we go out and that's cos am always very simple in everything I do. Don't want to live in the rich neighborhood like LEkki or VI. I prefer so lowkey town close to my village but far enough to be a getaway at the same time. Like village feel. I can always go anywhere in Nigeria to feel the City Life when needed. Nigeria is actually not that difficult to live when you are not caged. you can travel abroad whenever you like and do as you wish, but when in Nigeria, just keep lowkey and you will be more fulfilled... just my one cent... I visit Lagos on N50k budget most of the time for two weeks and don't miss anything. IM iJebu by the way!!!!

Good Initiative Sir, Im glad you are approaching your business from this angle. In my opinion, this a better route for leveraging your skill. Watching with full interest. Goodluck and God bless

Sorry for just responding to this matter. I actually didnt notice the brick material you used for the foundation wall. My structural opinion is that first, you are not using concrete blocks in this project and secondly, i might be wrong, you did not show a Beam crossing to connect the columns in the displaced picture.

The first issure: The clay bricks are not suitable to stick to the concrete columns like a concrete to concrete material would. therefore, you can not treat the brick as structural. That means the bricks are just there for partitioning.

Second issure: For the proper Beam N Column design, you must cross the a beam to connect the columns at relatively short sections as you build vertically. Like i said earlier, am assuming no beam already in place cos i did not see any in your picture attached

Good luck

Nice work you are doing there. I will surely love to stop by your jobsite if am able to come home before you finish there. My family home is very close to this site. You made the execution so lucid and smooth as anything I have seen in Nigeria's construction. Excellent!!!

you are absolutely right in saying that its lousy. I had to stop all work at that stage will finish when am free to be there. I believe the formwork came loosed during monolithic pour. see another pic from the same building

mufutau55:
No. No. No. This one in the picture is bad and lousy job of Lintel... not like Egunmogaji's own at all.

Hajji M.

I had the same experience with my lintel concrete cast too. Remember you advice me to not expect perfect job. See my own issure attached

EgunMogaji:
And I think there's cost savings in there.

So with Spyders method, everything is straight, plumb and no "pregnancies".

So it will theoretically take less plastering labor and materials.

It's a learning lesson for me.

excellent my brother. you did very well and God will enable you to enjoy and build more in the near future. you will never know how much you have inspired people by just doing this project!!! NL is help Nigeria as a whole close the home shortage

davit:
Once again, thanks to you all for rejoicing with me. There are so many questions asked that I dont even know where to start. Well, for those asking for location, it is in Lagos, around Iju-Ishaga, Agege axis. I cant reveal more than that for security reason.
As regards the cost of building, I will say something around 11million. This is so owing to the quality of the materials used for the house, most especially the interior decor. I could have spent something less, like 9million. Each room is ensuite with modern day facilities.
I used around 150 bags of cement alone to do plastering. Dont ask me if artisans did not cheat me.I was my own engineer. I was always on the ground to monitor everything happening on my site.
You can use less depending on how solid you want your wall to be.I need to add that there are 2 gates in the house. Both cost around 200k

For those who think that I have the money, so no need to say that I was pushed to do this. Well, lemme tell you that when the work began, I had around 3million naira. And that was meant to buy a half plot of land at Obawole, Fagba. The plan then was to just buy the land and see what could come up for the development. But the land I wanted to buy was sold to someone else . I never knew the Lord already had a better place for us that wont cost that much. I got the land, about a plot, for less than 2 million.

This project is a testimony in many ways. Shortly after getting the land, my mind was always there. And the fear that Omo oniles could take over if not developed made me begin the work. It wasnt really easy. Omo oniles were on my neck 24/7. But I was told then that house builds itself. Beyond my imagination, lines began to fall for me in pleasant places. I got help that could make the work progress. I got a better job and the likes. It is a long story. But one fact I remember then was that my meal was more or less once in a day. Most times it was beans! The fear of omo oniles too has now reduced.

May I add that the thougt of having my own place never occured to me at all until when that neighbour of mine was making life difficult for me. And of course, some Nairalanders suggested I get my own place. It was initially funny to me. But at the same time I decided to give it a try.

For those talking about taste, HMMMM, I can see that you dont know what it takes to get here. I could have made the exterior more colourful than that though, but if you know what is called security and the environment you find yourself, you will not dare do what will make your house kinda attractive to some bad guys. Most houses around mine dont even have their exteriors painted. I agree with those who suggested colour combination. I can work on that at anytime. Painting is more or less the easiest part of building.

I just finished doing the interlocking. May I let all know that you cant finish building your own house. There will be need to do adjustments every now and then.

I hope I have been able to do justice to some of the questions asked. Thanks once again for your inquisitiveness. May the Lord build good houses for us all.

I like the Reserve cos it makes sense and not tacky like more " Rich People HOuse" in Naija. Usually over stuff with things that needs not be there. I love clean line and simplicity in my life. lastly, its easy to maintain and clean up.

n3xt:
Inside The Reserve by NextHome

Clean Lines. No Fussy Details. Budget House.

More interior pics to be featured on July Edition of ... Magazine.

Watch this thread!


Brabus.


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Yes! We Built This.

Good job there!. whats the rate for the Concrete truck and the rate for the Pump truck?

Do as the owner wants. The challenge with Nigerian at home is that they never do want you ask them to do. They want to do I KNOW PASS the spender. you can suggest to the owner , but never go against his/her decision. Thanks

alstacs:
Good day gurus in the house and friends in diaspora. Please I'm monitoring a project for a friend who lives abroad. They just concluded the DPC and are working on the block work of the ground floor of the duplex.
While the plan shows the wardrobe position to be demarcated with blocks, the supervisor thinks block work for wardrobe is unnecessary and out of fashion. I am confused as my friend is a rigid person who might want to see his plan executed the way it was drawn unless if I could be convinced otherwise.
Now the question is, is it really out of fashion to build the wardrobe wall with blocks?

Hi,

It will cost roughly 7m without land and fence. you will most likely trim the exterior deco down a little. Please still keep the decent look without too many extruding surfaces. Good luck

Thanks. I will contact you when the building is approaching completion soon. The project is aim at such students and am glad that the design will serve our people positively.

Tequilah:
I know some post-graduate students in Babcock (i.e. MPhil & Ph.D students) that would certainly be interested in these apartments.

if the land is in a desirable location and your mother has the document. they should go sell it to a lawyer cheaply to get something out of it. Village people don't recognize any court room decision, especially that the King is not on your side

chiefmidwife:
The eldest man in the umunna has told us that if oyibo people invite him he will go and testify bt am looking for monetary aspect of the Case..
We are nt well to do and that's part of the reason they are overpowering us..

Hi, where are you located and how much experience do you have till date? Show us some pasted work you did. Thanks and goodluck

segun484:
I am a plumber,l also have 0ND in Building Tech,Pls someone should help me with a plumbing job or Anyone.Thanks

Yes, I have suspended the project till am able to be on ground later this year. But I am still working on the project indirectly buy buying accessories for the project; roof is bought, arranging for buying windows and doors. am basically using the down time to procure all the material to finish the project. So upon landing, all I have to doing is install everything.

nextstep:
true2home any progress on the building? Did you decide to suspend till you're able to physically be on site?

I too have learned the value of "being present", since nothing seems to happen the moment they know I'm away, even for 1 day.

And the locals will complain if we don't give them jobs, yet make the worst of it. More than once I've contemplated bringing workers from the SW that I'm familiar with to complete the job sharp sharp.

The statement below is the fact. That's why we are Third world country. We need infrastructure in all area of development. Government and financially able citizens will have to invest in heavy machineries and technologies for the common man to use for the development of the country.

skimanski:
At least you understand the challenges we face in the country. Its not like the builders are not talented, just that the machinery, tools, and Materials are not easily accessible.

Sorry. My fellow Nigerian, we are who we are, period!!! we make live difficult for our people; in turn, ourselves. There is nothing you will do in Nigeria of today and not have a fellow Nigerian come in to create hardship.

Go there when you can and preach what patriotism is all about to whoever you find there; embarrass them and call them bastard without actually voicing it exactly. I do that all the time and it sometime works. They get embarrass that you are accusing them of not being true and faithful to their own country. Tell them that they are indirectly cursing their children.

When we complain about Nigeria not moving forward, we keep forgetting that its as a result of our own doing by obstructing our brothers and sisters since we are the Oga today, forgetting that we have children behind us than will go through the this same system. I distaste situation like this. I suspend my project because of similar situation. I will continue soon, Nigeria is ours no matter the problem. Take time out to cool off, then put forward. Goodluck

nextstep:
So this story done get K-leg oh... remember we had redone the roof? Well, it turned out that the roofing people had left one side of the facing board unclad, and they had also left that side of the woodwork (about 1.5 ft of woodwork) uncompleted. So there is a gap in the roof of 1.5ft by 20ft in the roof. They claimed that they ran out of materials to finish everything in one day. Roofing that we've already paid for all materials. This is a SIMPLE flat roof, so how can we have miscalculated on materials?

No problem, let's restart on Monday. Suddenly LGA boys show up and start their wahala, taking cement, zinc, tools, from the site. We had settled these people more than 6 months ago, but it seems the oga and deputy we gave money to simple ate the money. Now they are asking for 240k before we can continue roofing.. All the money and effort spent on removing panels, wood, aluminium, etc seems like just a waste since the decking is getting soaked, just like before. I done tire for Delta.

It seems too much of a coincidence that these events happened and I smell a rat... could it be one of the roofing people? The engineer? I'm beginning to get paranoid and the trouble in this place is really discouraging any kind of development.

More later as this saga continues.

Honestly, if an architect understands his or her profession vividly, there wouldn't be any doubt how important a Civil Engineer is to the building industry. First, start with education, most architectural curriculum only summaries structure to the students. Civil Engineering not only does comprehensive learning of structure but are trained to do Civil Projects for entire human's infrastructurall need. Like transportation, fluid mechanics, foundation, aero dynamics , even medical structure too, just to mention a few. And most importantly, Engineering is based on three core ideas : economic design, safety and functionality. All this three cores must be met to have a viable design. Hence, beautiful concept without economic value is useless, concept without functionality is useless and concepts that do not take into consideration limitations of the country and availability of standard design materials and elements are not safe, therefore, are also useless. I need not defend Civil Engineers, next time you want to talk about us, compare our training curiculums first.

Honestly, if an architect understands his or her profession vividly, there wouldn't be any doubt how important a Civil Engineer is to the building industry. First, start with education, most architectural curriculum only summaries structure to the students. Civil Engineering not only does comprehensive learning of structure but are trained to do Civil Projects for entire human's infrastructurall need. Like transportation, fluid mechanics, foundation, aero dynamics , even medical structure too, just to mention a few. And most importantly, Engineering is based on three core ideas : economic design, safety and functionality. All this three cores must be met to have a viable design. Hence, beautiful concept without economic value is useless, concept without functionality is useless and concepts that do not take into consideration limitations of the country and availability of standard design materials and elements are not safe, therefore, are also useless. I need not defend Civil Engineers, next time you want to talk about us, compare our training curiculums first.
einsteino:

Honestly, if an architect understands his or her profession vividly, there wouldn't be any doubt how important a Civil Engineer is to the building industry. First, start with education, most architectural curriculum only summaries structure to the students. Civil Engineering not only does comprehensive learning of structure but are trained to do Civil Projects for entire human's infrastructurall need. Like transportation, fluid mechanics, foundation, aero dynamics , even medical structure too, just to mention a few. And most importantly, Engineering is based on three core ideas : economic design, safety and functionality. All this three cores must be met to have a viable design. Hence, beautiful concept without economic value is useless, concept without functionality is useless and concepts that do not take into consideration limitations of the country and availability of standard design materials and elements are not safe, therefore, are also useless. I need not defend Civil Engineers, next time you want to talk about us, compare our training curiculums first.

einsteino:
The hard truth is an architect draws pretty pictures that he has no idea how to make stand. There is no limitation to what an architect can model. One can model a completely suspended building in revit, archicad.. Can cantilever 40 metre span.. Can have an overhang of 400 sq metre supported by just a brick wall.. It is all just pictures and models.. The civil engr tells him what is obtainable within the budget and the prevailing technical conditions in the country. The way the industry works, engrs call architects dreamers and architects call engrs killjoys.

You dont hve to feel bitter about it. It is one thing to dream, it is another to make it work. It is not too late to go get a second degree in civil engineering so you can have all the competent technical know how you require to make your projects be the way you wish.

moreso nigeria isnt dubai, it is the truth. Such pojects require a lot of money for an engr to be able to explore alot of options and assemble a large competent team. Here it is hard for a civil Engr to even specialise unlike in developed nations. I have carried out many projects that budgetary constraints made me negotiate modifications with the architect. Heck it is almost mission impossible to produce grade 40 concrete in Nigeria which is the minimum grade of concrete in eurocode. The yield strength of rebars in nigeria mkts can not be vouched for, some are as low as 300N/mm for socalled high yield meanwhile it ought to be 460 minimum. Clients refuse to carry out proper geotechnical investigation that would educate the engr on the soil bearing capacity the structure would sit on. What are engrs to do? These factors greatly inhibit our engineering capacity. Even when u profer smart solutions that would save aesthetics, the same client wouldnt be able to afford it. The client doesnt want to spend money on his own project, the engr isnt paid something that even encourages thinking outside the box but the architect is still drawing beautiful dreamland pictures without taking into cognisance the difficulties and risk it would pose in a nation like ours.

Yes there are incompetent engrs and i agree many of them hide their incompetence by avoiding projects that require the most basic ingenious solutions. I have met a number of them, but the truth is alot of folks who parade themselves as civil engrs are not, even Architects also parade themselves as engrs and i have met a good number of incompetent architects too. I work as a consultant/design structural engr and i know the sacrifices and efforts it takes to be a competent engr. Civil engineering is very tasking, intellectually and otherwise. Yet an architect would dare ask an engr to carryout structural designs for peanuts. They want you to offer competence at the fees of quacks.

If you want competence, you must be ready to pay for it. You shy away from employing the service of a competent engr because you want to cut cost, only to run to quacks and come out here and insult an entire profession based on your experience with the quacks, it is not nice a thing to do at all. If i wrote an epitsle detailing the level of incompetence of some architects i have worked with, generalising and ridiculing your entire profession, how would you feel? There are many civil engineering consulting firms in Nigeria and they are very competent, employ their services. Most of the foreign construction firms employ the services of indigenous engineering consulting firms, I dont think you know better than them. I too am a competent civil engr and you can reach me for your structural designs. I have expertise in steel and reinforced concrete structures and software proficiency in STAAD PRO, Tekla Structures, Revit Structures, Robot Structural Analysis, SAP 2000, Orion and Auto Cad.

Oh that reminds me, you made mention of detailing in Orion being bad. Oh yeah every software has its limitations but it doesnt make one incompetent to employ them. Orion slab detailing is a disaster, its foundation details isnt a sight to behold either. I only endorse its beam detail but that needs some tweaking too. Personally draughting using Autocad is still the best due time the flexibility it avails its user but it is a painstaking process and involves too many repetitive and time wasting actions. To avoid this, Cads RC and revit structure can be employed if one can survive the learning curve. To engrs please make sure you understand the software you use perfectly well. Orion doesnt span slabs purely in one way, doesnt matter if u change the slab type.. Also be sure to introduce hinges before analysis because its details doesnt cater for fixity. Its foundation footing sizing is also too conservative. Personally, good old manual structural designs and calculation is a favourite and is always a good backbone, however automating the process makes it speedy.

Lastly engrs please a software is a garbage in, garbage out tool. You can't get what you didnt give. It is only to automate what you already know not what you dont. An engr reads more on graduation than he did in all his years in Uni combined, keep developing yourselves. Hopefuly we would take our profession back from the quacks someday.