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thehomer: We see this right here on earth. The poles of the earth form ice while the rest of the universe tends towards disorder at the larger scale.

musKeeto: Stryktlymi will be like

' Good evening sir,

In as much as we do not share same beliefs, I'd like you to know I empathize with your situation and hope I can help you in any way I can

'

FxKing2012 will be like

' Yeah, that's good.. The curse God placed on you had begun to work. Repent and change your ways, fool (not me but the Bible)'

Goshen360: 'ah, my runnerup, u don broke? Heheehe, come yankee, I fit hook you up, u know as we dey do am na'

Truthislight: 'logicboy, broke? Hmmm, not my concern'

Image123 will post a bible verse.

JeSoul will move your thread to general section.

Pagan9ja will send you some cash.. Just send frosbel as sacrifice..

Zikkyy: @bolded, i think oiseworld is yet to achieved celebrity status 'Crook' will do

moredendisc: @truthislight

This might help.

You are on a journey flying from one end of earth to the other

You arrive at the airport. Go to "Departure". Check in, go through security checks.

You walk down to the "Departure"lounge.

As you are walking to the "Departure" lounge, in the same airport, you notice there is a glass separating "Arrivals" area and the "Departures" area

The glass separating the "Arrivals" area and the "Departures" area in the airport

is similar to the gulf that made the separation in Hades or Sheol

Hope that helped

Adam's body disintegrated back to dust and like everyone else ended up in Sheol, waiting I guess.

moredendisc: @Image123

The idea of "hell" does not exist in the Hebrew vocabulary or sphere of life so as a result there is no Hebrew word for hell

Sheol and Hades are similar in place or location and in meaning,

Sheol or Hades is a place where both the righteous and the wicked end up in after death but separated by a gulf

Sheol, is in Hebrew language or Hades is in Greek language

It is safe to say Sheol is Hades and vice versa

Hell like similar imports into Christendom, such as Yuletide etc are myths from other people's cultures

Sheol or Hades and hell are different kettle of fish

The english word hell is not a good render of the word Sheol or Hades

because the righteous and wicked end up in Sheol or Hades albeit separated by a gulf

however supposedly only the wicked end up in hell with no righteous present

Ubenedictus: IT IS D SAME TIN, HELL IS HADES AND HADES IS HELL ACCORDING TO D TRANSLATORS

Image123: BTW, let me ask the self-inflicted rabbis, professors and translators in the house. What is the Hebrew word for 'hell'? What is the english word for 'Hades'?

oiseworld: @pastor kun,
Its ovious you lack basic Bible understanding. You most be an etheist hiding under the name of a pastor. They believe they evolved from apes reason why they don't understand why they at on earth.

You claim to be a pastor following God sheepishly, have you ever stop to ask God your reward for following him. Even if you won't ask, he will tell you. He will reward all is followers and that is the basis. REWARD, REWARD, REWARD...

If u don't believe in heaven or hell, then you need not follow God... Don't bring dat I love him rubbish, it doesn't exist.

@lagerwhenindoubt,
You claim pastors only take half a verse of a scipture leaving the rest because of their selfish purposes ok let's look at this.

matt 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Lets take away the upper part.
...... and all these things shall be added unto you.

I hope we are in understanding, this case are not a prefix and sufix verses like you want to think. Rather, they butress each other.

Weither he takes it from the top or from the bottom, it will end up saying the same Thing.a d passing the same message.
I hope u get me here. Another one.
2 chro 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Jst humbling themselves,praying and seeking his face will automatically bring the result that follows. Even if that part was not added to the main scripture. That is the nature of God and that's how it works.
I hope I've helped u abit.
Pardon my blunders. I'll get more stripture to buttress my point.

oiseworld: matt 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Lets take away the upper part.
...... and all these things shall be added unto you.

oiseworld: NAWA OOHHH !!!

All these atheist and their lack of understanding. Reason why they are atheist in the first place.

oya make we carry on,

let x=y.
If x is giving. And y is sowing. Then giving =sowing.

When a farmer sows in the farm, does he walk away without expecting to reap what he has sowed. Or you think God is a debtor? That he would not repay you for every act of kindness/giving that you do. Not minding if you do it because he asked you to do it or because you are just kind.... Ooboy give yourself brain.
Maybe you don't need the money that's why you're a free giver. GOD IS NOT A DEBTOR.
....If you don't get ur reward here on earth, you would get it in the world after if you make it.

Have u ever asked why we serve God and not Live our lifes the way we want it?....Because theirs a reward, so let it stick into your head God will REWARD every good deed.

.
Heb 6:10
King James Bible
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

... tell me which of the passages you quoted there that doesn't have a reward attached.... You just want to lead people astray. With ur atheism, all of you.

Now this is the conclusion of the matter..

GOD IS THE AUTHOR OF FREELY GIVING....HE HAS A REWARD FOR IT.

GOD IS THE AUTHOR OF CONDITIONAL GIVING.... HE HAS A REWARD FOR IT.

NAME ANY TYPE OF GIVING AND I WILL SHOW YOU HE HAS A REWARD FOR IT ALSO.... SO HOW THEN DO YOU GIVE UNCONDITIONALLY WHEN THERE'S ALREADY A REWARD ATTACHED. NOT MINDING IF YOU ARE INTERESTED OR NOT.

I'll. Be back to answer others.

Joagbaje: And what do u understand by seeking the kingdom

plappville: Lets take a look at some scriptural events, it seem that not be not given a proper burial was considered to be a great tragedy and dishonor.

A prophet disobeyed God by eating a meal in a forbiden location.
God laid a curse on him: that his body would not be buried in the tomb of his fathers.
Shortly after, the prophet was attacked by a lion and his remains left on a road.

1 Kings 13:22 You came back and ate bread and drank water in the place where he told you not to eat or drink. Therefore your body will not be buried in the tomb of your fathers.'

God laid a horrible curse on the Israelites: that many would die of diseases, will not be mourned and would be "like refuse lying on the ground".
Jeremiah 16:6
"Both high and low will die in this land. They will not be buried or mourned, and no one will cut himself or shave his head for them.

God laid a similar curse on Jehoiakim because of his pride and disobedience.
Jeremiah 22:19:He will have the burial of a donkey--dragged away and thrown outside the gates of Jerusalem."

It is clear that burying on the earth is God' traditional way, that is how His prophets were buried.

plappville: It is clear that burying on the earth is God' traditional way, that is how His prophets were buried.

plappville: What about Moses body? deut 34:6- God selected a burial site at a secret location in Moab for Moses.

deut 34:6 He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is.

1 Kings 2:10: David
Matthew 14:10-12: John the Baptist
Acts 5:5-10: Ananias and Sapphira
Acts 8:2: Stephen
Joshua 24:29-30: Joshua
Joshua 24:33: Eleazar
1 Samuel 25:1: Samuel

They were all buried not burned!

plappville: Bro..its a thing of chioce to you, i am not to judge you.

plappville: Put to the ground is better, and idea... And I don't dream of doing cremation, i will follow the way Gods servants were buried.
I have not concluded it is wrong, i am just saying that, if Gods prophets were not burn and if we truely claim to follow thier method, then we should not indulge in Cremation, That's all. But everyone has a choice so i cannot condemn it. It was strange for me to withnessed such live.

Zikkyy: You better disposed off that your device, i think it's possessed (demonic spirit ). Anyways i knew you meant cremated. needed a good laugh if you do prefer 'cemented', i have friends at Dangote cement. As your good friend, i go supply the required quantity of cement for free

Ubenedictus: ok

hahaha, ok i think i understand where u are coming from. The revealation of christ is very important and not anyhow person shuld transmit tradition. Ok i get that.
That not withstanding the bible itself shows us how d xtian tradition was to be transmitted. 2 tim 2:2 it says and i quote and the things u have heard me say, in the presence of many witness entrust to reliable men who will be able to teach other
the bible let me know that d transmission of tradition didnt stop with the apostles, the apostles were to transmitted it to their disciples who in turn shuld entrust it to other men wu were capable of teaching odas. Paul taught them to timothy and timothy will entrust it to other wu must teach it to odas too. That is how scriptures bear witness to d transmission of tradition. So do d early xtians bear witnes dat peter transmitted to mark and linus etal, john to polycarp etal, paul to timothy, titus etal,etc. To claim that that transmission stoped with the apostle is to do a disservice to scripture, because scripture make it quite clear that tradition is to be transmitted from one generation of belivers to the next.
Peace my dear friend.

Kay 17: As water boils by the dictates of physical laws, so also natural occurences.

cyrexx: Good to know and I am really happy to hear this from you.

cyrexx: Thehomer dear thehomer,

where have you been?

We miss you around here.

thehomer:
I've just been a bit busy though I'm freer now so I can engage more with the numerous theists here.

Candour: wow!!!

Been following this thread and must confess it's a tragedy when Atheists,agnostics etc know more about the heartbeat of our Christ than we children of the kingdom.How can some christians imply that Christ died so we can fill our houses with dollars when its obvious that no so called 'christian' will ever match the silicon valley whizkids in wealth.If Christ died to make us rich in physical terms,don't you think one of us should be the richest in the world right now? if that is not the case, can't it be argued that Christ died in vain? i mean if 2000 years after the fact,no Christian has worn the garb of richest man in the world.

seriously brethren,do you really need @lagerwhenindoubt to preach at you before you realise you're way out in left field? your casino gospel only breeds empty,greedy and self centered 'christians' who know nothing in the bible except verses that have the word riches or it's synonyms in them.

no matter how much they 'sow' or receive seeds 'sown', all our biggest MOG's combined will never match Warren Buffet(an agnostic) in wealth.the man is 85 years old and he even enjoys better physical health than our jet flying pastors.

Shame on you if you think Christ shed his blood so you can fill your being with materials susceptible to the power of mere rodents and roaches.

@lagerwhenindoubt, i salute your openness.

PLS LET THE TEACHINGS CONTINUE......I'M ENJOYING IT BIG TIME

oiseworld: Oga like I have spoken before, it is clearly the will of God that we are in good health and prosper, even as our soul prospereth. 3 john 1:2

Joagbaje: Giving is only an aspect of prosperity and Jesus taught it.

Luke 6:38
Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

Paul taught it too.

Galatians 6:7
Be not deceived; God is not mocked:for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Philippians 4:17
But though I appreciate your gifts, what makes me happiest is the well- earned reward you will have because of your kindness.

So If you call biblical principle casino. Then you may have to write another bible

Every giving has a reward . If you must be a receiver , you start the giving .

broswilli: Jesus is the first and the last means he is the first to be resurrected by God Directly to Immortal Life and the Last to be Given that honor that is why he is also referred to as the first fruit. All other persons to be resurrected to immortality would not be resurrected directly by the almighty God but by Jesus himself. Jesus Christ Never claimed to be equal with God but it is today's theologians who are like the Pharisees in Jesus days on earth that put all these complexities into the bible. They add new laws like abstain from alcohol as if alcohol is something that should not be taken mean while the bible says people appointed to be deacons should not over drink. The bible says you can drink but don't be a drunkard. They say I and my father are one is a reference to trinity but the bible says Adam and Eve where one flesh which means that they are not Joined together like Siamese twins but they were of Unity in Flesh and understanding(Including Sexual Intimacy). They even make us feel that occult powers are what is making Christians (who are supposed to be liberated by God) to suffer so today's Christians pray long repetitive prayers like the prophets of baal forgetting that it is the truth that sets men free. These Christians continue to be slave to their Pharisee masters and continue praying and waiting for miracle ignoring the truth that sets men free

Stalwert: The prestigious Mayo Clinic found that
that religious involvement and
spirituality are associated with better
physical health, mental health, health-
related quality of life and other health
Currently, there is an ongoing debate on
whether atheism was a causal factor for
Friedrich Nietzsche's insanity or whether
it was caused purely through disease.
Duke University has established the
Center for Spirituality, Theology and
Health.[7] The Duke University Center
for Spirituality, Theology and Health is
based in the Center for Aging at Duke
and gives opportunities for scholarly
trans-disciplinary conversation and the
development of collaborative research
projects.[8] In respect to the atheism
and mental and physical health, the
center offers many studies which
suggest that theism is more beneficial
than atheism.[9]
The Christian group Teen Challenge
reported the following:
“

Currently, there is an ongoing debate
regarding whether atheism was a causal
factor for Friedrich Nietzsche's insanity
or whether it was caused strictly by
disease.[12] [13]
An article published on the Hong Kong
Baptist University website offers the
following regarding the cause of
Friedrich Nietzsche's insanity:
“
Trying to explain what caused his
insanity can only be a matter of
speculation. Some people believe it was
the result of a physical illness. Others
interpret his suffering as that of a true
prophet, almost as if he were accepting
the punishment on behalf of those who
could not see mankind's tendency
towards self-destruction so clearly. Still
others regard his final fate as a natural
outcome of his philosophical outlook.[13]
”
The Russian-born psychoanalyst and
writer Lou Andreas-Salomé, who had a
brief and tempestuous affair with
Nietzsche, believed that Nietzsche's
philosophy can be viewed as a reflection
of his psychology and that his madness
was the result of his philosophizing.[14]
In addition, the French historian René
Girard asserted that Nietzsche's
philosophy led to his insanity

www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_health

Stalwert: The Russian-born psychoanalyst and
writer Lou Andreas-Salomé, who had a
brief and tempestuous affair with
Nietzsche, believed that Nietzsche's
philosophy can be viewed as a reflection
of his psychology and that his madness
was the result of his philosophizing.[14]
In addition, the French historian René
Girard asserted that Nietzsche's
philosophy led to his insanity

www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_health

ezme: Mr Frosbel, who decides reason, delusion or faith?

Zikkyy: Lol!



cemented ke

lagerwhenindoubt: you took the words right out of my keyboards but i shall make my usually long post

Kay 17: Truthlight and davidlyan

I was saying experience of a phenomenon is the sole criteria for knowing whether it was intelligently designed or naturally made.

Kay 17: If it so, praise is owed to Nature. Precision is likewise natural also. Or are we to presume precision is all intelligently made??

Kay 17: Truthlight and davidlyan

I was saying experience of a phenomenon is the sole criteria for knowing whether it was intelligently designed or naturally made.