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Christianity Etc › Re: We worship one TRUE GOD not a TRINITY - A Provocative discussion by truthislight: 6:42am On Jul 25, 2012

@olaadegbu
Dont be confuse.
The book of Jude said he did not in "Abusive terms" while contesting with satan.
that is the diff.

Read the whole of Jude u will note that the context of that Jude was about respect.

Did u consider my post on Rev19?

Christianity Etc › Re: We worship one TRUE GOD not a TRINITY - A Provocative discussion by truthislight: 6:22am On Jul 25, 2012

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Christianity Etc › Re: We worship one TRUE GOD not a TRINITY - A Provocative discussion by truthislight: 6:21am On Jul 25, 2012

OLAADEGBU: Twisting the Word of God as Satan did in the garden of Eden qualifies such as cults and false religions. This is what the Bible says:

"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first" (1 Thess. 4:16)

If you read with an open mind you will discover that the text here is saying that Jesus is coming with a host of heaven. The 'shout' there is a military command and who do you think is the angel in charge of military assault in the heavenlies? It is probably Michael, who is an arch angel and it is not only Michael that will be coming with our Lord Jesus Christ but with a great host of heaven. So it is not our Lord Jesus Christ who will blow the trumpet and shout the military command, He will be comming with the host of heaven and the saints dead and alive will join them in the skies consecutively. Read Jude 9 and Revelation 12:7-9 for further referencing.

@olaadegbu
Bro.

Can we read Revelation 19:11 to 16.

Vas 11 says that this person makes war. So we know that this person is a person of war.

But who is this person?

Vas 13 calls him the "word", who is call the word according to john 1:1? = Jesus.

Vas 16 also call this man of war "king of kings and lord of lords", who is this man of war called kings of kings than? = Jesus.

So we can see that the person carrying on war here Jesus with his angels, and michael the archangel also carry on "WAR" with his angels.

Who do u thing this two persons are that are identified as "war" persons? Cant u see that they are the same person?

Are God holy angels divided into two camps with two captains? No.
Both of them are the same persons.
Peace

Christianity Etc › Re: We worship one TRUE GOD not a TRINITY - A Provocative discussion by truthislight: 6:21am On Jul 25, 2012

OLAADEGBU: Twisting the Word of God as Satan did in the garden of Eden qualifies such as cults and false religions. This is what the Bible says:

"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first" (1 Thess. 4:16)

If you read with an open mind you will discover that the text here is saying that Jesus is coming with a host of heaven. The 'shout' there is a military command and who do you think is the angel in charge of military assault in the heavenlies? It is probably Michael, who is an arch angel and it is not only Michael that will be coming with our Lord Jesus Christ but with a great host of heaven. So it is not our Lord Jesus Christ who will blow the trumpet and shout the military command, He will be comming with the host of heaven and the saints dead and alive will join them in the skies consecutively. Read Jude 9 and Revelation 12:7-9 for further referencing.

@olaadegbu
Bro.

Can we read Revelation 19:11 to 16.

Vas 11 says that this person makes war. So we know that this person is a person of war.

But who is this person?

Vas 13 calls him the "word", who is call the word according to john 1:1? = Jesus.

Vas 16 also call this man of war "king of kings and lord of lords", who is this man of war called kings of kings then? = Jesus.

So we can see that the person carrying on war here Jesus with his angels, and michael the archangel also carry on "WAR" with his angels.

Who do u thing this two persons are that are identified as "war" persons? Cant u see that they are the same person?

Are God holy angels divided into two camps with two captains? No.
Both of them are the same persons.
Peace

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Anyone (DEAD/LIVING) Witnessed Evolution Or The Big B@ng? by truthislight: 11:58pm On Jul 24, 2012

Logicbwoy: lol....not one factual statement in that comment.

IjawKid senses that he is on the illogical side and is lashing out. Dont be arrogant, just accept that you're not making any sense.

Is this the new logic boy em sorry logicman, that is talking and is not cursing?
Hmmm!
Lets keep looking. And observing.

Christianity Etc › Re: GRACE: Destiny vs Freewill: Brethren, Let Us Break Bread by truthislight: 10:29pm On Jul 24, 2012

cyrexx: hello, guys, pls on a more seroius note:

can someone explain this thing about sin against Holy Ghost; they say it is unforgivable.

what does it mean?

if the person repents, does it mean he has been predestinated to perish forever in hell no matter what he does, even if he eventually repents.

that question used to bother me when i was still a christian long time ago.

infact it was one of the major absurdities in Christianity that makes no sense to me, because then i felt i have committed this sin.

pls no sarcasm intended, i'm seroius.

any concerned christians in the house?

Guy. How can you sin against the holy spirit when u hardly have gotten the full gist of what the bible says?
U are very far from those that can commit such sin.

Why did i say that?
To explain i have to use the jewish religiouse leaders of Jesus day that committed that sin as an example.

This people have a complete knowledge of the law, they know that a messiah was coming and there were prophesies and calculation to that end.

But when he came because he did not agree with the wrongs they were doing they rejected him, even though they have proved that God sent him.
They also out of Greed for there possition and the fear of the Romans rejected the messiah, the son of God.

This, like u can see is a clear case of deliberately denying God or rejecting him for selfish reason and not out of ignorancy.

So, when one has come to a complete knowledge of the truth (Gods word) and then DELIBERATELY rejects the truth or denied it. That is a seriouse matter.

But u? Ur guestions on this thread shows u never knew what u were doing.
See, apostle paul never knew what he was doing even though he killed stephen. So, he never committed the unforgiveable sin.
Peace

Christianity Etc › Re: Why God Hates Gay People by truthislight: 9:49pm On Jul 24, 2012

musKeeto: Smh..

Guy, why are you looking at me with glasses?

Christianity Etc › Re: Should Atheists Have Their Own Board? by truthislight: 3:18pm On Jul 24, 2012

The aspect that bother's me is the level of obscenities prevalent on what is tag a religiouse forum.

I must say that the atheist seems to be having no inhibition whatsoever on the use of the foul language. Even the religiouse people that are wishing to convince them dont seems to show restrain at times when provoked, well, they are also human.

It is pertinent to observe that there are some atheist that seldom uses foul language.

Eg.
Dehomer, Key17. (there maybe others i dont know yet)

It is more practical and convincing to highlight someone foolishness by pointing it out rationally than cursing, that is if we have rational reasons for being here and discussing, spending lots of times typing and exacting our brains.
That should have more result or impact.
Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Does It Takes The Grace Of God For One Not To Indulge In Fornication/adultery? by truthislight: 2:40pm On Jul 24, 2012

oiseworld: you atheist are very self centered, it has to be the way you want it. You've had soo much sex that youre now good at it. While someome somewhere is also having very good sex with your future wife and she's now also very good at it. What do you care? She Probably had had one or two abortions, not your problem.

You'll never force a girl to have an abortion, but you'll take care of the child just incase,you didn't say you'll marry her. You allow the child to grow wit both of u seperate.

I don't have an evidence to backup the spiritual part, you're an etheist, you'll never umderstand.

Christianity Etc › Re: Does It Takes The Grace Of God For One Not To Indulge In Fornication/adultery? by truthislight: 2:27pm On Jul 24, 2012

oiseworld: you atheist are very self centered, it has to be the way you want it. You've had soo much sex that youre now good at it. While someome somewhere is also having very good sex with your future wife and she's now also very good at it. What do you care? She Probably had had one or two abortions, not your problem.

You'll never force a girl to have an abortion, but you'll take care of the child just incase,you didn't say you'll marry her. You allow the child to grow wit both of u seperate.

I don't have an evidence to backup the spiritual part, you're an etheist, you'll never umderstand.

@ evil brain
That is what happens when someone that cant see all sides of an issue start talking.

He did not say what he will do if the atheist girl he is going to marry that dont care about God has committed an abortion that shifted her womb and child bearing becomes a problem.

I think, since he does not have the care for a God he will simply abandon her or worst yet kill her in secret afterall God wont see him.

Or, will he be happy that the girl was just like him? No.

So, how wise is what EVILBRAIN has said?

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Anyone (DEAD/LIVING) Witnessed Evolution Or The Big B@ng? by truthislight: 1:56pm On Jul 24, 2012

@ijawkid

Ma Guy,
U have again raise the issue of the EGG and the CHICKEN which comes first.

This is one topic that evolutionist runs away from...

Or can they explain it now?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why God Hates Gay People by truthislight: 12:44pm On Jul 24, 2012

Kay 17: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis#Insects

Mate.
Ur reference did not show male insect matting with male insect.
No doubt self ferti is possible.

The point is doing things that are not according to big slam's plans.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why God Hates Gay People by truthislight: 12:24pm On Jul 24, 2012

Talentgift: You guys are jobless fools for mentioning God name in vain over a lunatic issue which we all know is very bad & awkward before THE ALMIGHTY. If HE doesn't hate it; why did HE destroyed sodiom & gomora. You retard

Agreed. Absolutely.

Christianity Etc › Re: GRACE: Destiny vs Freewill: Brethren, Let Us Break Bread by truthislight: 12:14pm On Jul 24, 2012

Deep Sight: My personal experience of predictive dreams has led me to the (perhaps seemingly absurd) conviction that some experiences and events can hardly be avoided.

If God had said he will send his son Jesus, it was necessary for him to see to it that satan did not derail it though he satan tried to.

So, what do u expect satan to do if he inspired a vision?
Fold his hands and not follow it up to ensure fulfilment?

That satan can also inspire visions and ensured it comes true, should we now conclude that God has destined every thing?
Both satan's actions should all be tag as proof of God predetermination of things.

What do u think satan's intent are if not to deceive?

Afterall i saw where the bible says he rules the world.
Peace.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why God Hates Gay People by truthislight: 8:47am On Jul 24, 2012*

[quote author=Βουκέφαλος]Well you are very wrong.. Not all reptiles are M/F like you said.
New Mexico Whiptail Lizard are all females. so what do you have to say to that?[/quote] cool

[quote author=Βουκέφαλος]Well you are very wrong.. Not all reptiles are M/F like you said.
New Mexico Whiptail Lizard are all females. so what do you have to say to that?[/quote]Yea, they should look well.

How will they procreate?
Adoption?

The female will climb the female?

Or is it self fertilisation ?
Nah! Ya wana say em big slam made mistake?

Am gonna check it out in google cus big slam en make no mistake, just understanding.

That is, if they are all female then it will be self fertilisation to produce offspring and not that the female will climb the female. Vis-a-vis.

Christianity Etc › Re: GRACE: Destiny vs Freewill: Brethren, Let Us Break Bread by truthislight: 12:19am On Jul 24, 2012

5solas: Lol. Are we not talking about predestination? Must we restrict ourselves to the text above? More so when you question the KJV rendering?

Do you agree that at least some things are predestined? How can you tell which are predestined and which are not, if so?

guy, the answer to ur Q is very clear.

Isaiah 9;6 a child is born, and a child is given, and is names shall be called,.......

That is very clear.

When things are destined in the bible it is very clear, but not human in generall that christians are ask to preach to in all the earth.

Try and read my post again.
Ur interest is not bad, but ensure that the understanding agrees with other parts of the bible Genesis to Revelation.
Peace

Christianity Etc › Re: Why God Hates Gay People by truthislight: 12:01am On Jul 24, 2012*

And Big slam proceeded to make em:

fishes male/female.

Animal = M/F

bird = M/F

plants = M/F

insects = M/F

reptiles = M/F

guy, complete the mixing links.

Gays = M/F
.^^^

The error was made by big slam, he did not make em:
M/m or
F/f

I think God want em to stick to big slam ye love.
Obey em.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why God Hates Gay People by truthislight: 11:54pm On Jul 23, 2012*

musKeeto: Found this on my facebook feed. Funny pic...

https://cdn.lulztruck.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Why-god-is-upset-at-gay-people..jpg

Nah! Not just God,
have a closer look at nature, all seem to be male and female.
That seem to be the way big slam arrange it. cool

musKeeto: Found this on my facebook feed. Funny pic...

https://cdn.lulztruck.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Why-god-is-upset-at-gay-people..jpg

Nah! Not God,
have a closer look at nature, all seem to be male and female.
Thats seem to be the way big slam arranged it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Help Me Choose A Religion by truthislight: 11:20pm On Jul 23, 2012

Logicbwoy: Why must you have a religion?

guy, u are the first to respond to about 90% of the new thread on this religious forum.
why?
Is it ur plans to catched them young?
Then you are doing a good job.
Keep it up.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are There So Many Inconsistencies Between Mathew And Luke? by truthislight: 10:59pm On Jul 23, 2012

pimps: Hehehe I no guyz like u trying to remain in character nope mater wat but I will not take ur timidity for humility .I rather die than believing in that Jesus.

u said it urself.

Christianity Etc › Re: GRACE: Destiny vs Freewill: Brethren, Let Us Break Bread by truthislight: 10:52pm On Jul 23, 2012

5solas: I will come back to the above post later,God willing.

Meanwhile,how about the case of Simeon unto whom it was revealed that he should not see death until he sees Christ?

How about John who was told the manner he was to die to glorify God?

How about the interpretation of Pharoah's baker and butler's dreams that came to pass as interpreted?

I could go on and on.

mr Anony, come and do ur work, u are the op.
Tell this guy that we are not contesting prophesies and fulfilment here, but the understanding/explanation of the book of Romans 8;29,30.

Christianity Etc › Re: GRACE: Destiny vs Freewill: Brethren, Let Us Break Bread by truthislight: 10:01pm On Jul 23, 2012

5solas: @Ihedinobi

Let us look at predestination, for example. It is opposed by Arminians as you can clearly see from this thread. Sometimes they give it a spin. Calvinists affirm it, see how scripture support them in the passage below:

Can we believe in the fulfillment of prophesy without believing the events concerning them to be predetermined?

I consider this passage one of my favourite passages.

the issue is not about Jesus christ that was prophesied that he will come from heaven, but about human.

Christianity Etc › Re: Did Anyone (DEAD/LIVING) Witnessed Evolution Or The Big B@ng? by truthislight: 9:37pm On Jul 23, 2012

MacDaddy01: Toba, why are you lashing out?

You very well know that you are asking an annoying question that will backfire against you. Seriously, were you or anyone present when God created the world in 6 days?

The difference here is that the big bang is more logical than the creationism.

are u saying that the big slam is a plethora?

However, i know someone that seems to have witness it
area_boy. grin

MacDaddy01: Toba, why are you lashing out?

You very well know that you are asking an annoying question that will backfire against you. Seriously, were you or anyone present when God created the world in 6 days?

The difference here is that the big bang is more logical than the creationism.

are u saying that the big slam is a plethora?

However, i know someone that seems to have witness big slam :
area_boy.

Christianity Etc › Re: How I Murdered The 5 Argument That Killed Atheism by truthislight: 7:17pm On Jul 23, 2012

@area_boy
hmmm!
Guy, u know what?
You will do very well as a commedian

huh

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Even Bother With These Atheists? by truthislight: 6:16pm On Jul 23, 2012

musKeeto: Seconded..

It's IGNORANT to claim to see things from all angles, if you haven't dropped your Bible and taken a good extrospective look at religion as a whole...

i have the feeling u did not comprehend my post.

"I had said that i was also that comfuse about the bible befor i"

why not try again?
Peace

Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Jehovah Witness & Watchtower Magazine Teach That Is Wrong ? BEWARE by truthislight: 6:00pm On Jul 23, 2012*

@myjoe
hmmm!
Men, it is very interesting, i mean the passion in you to show that "the governing elders" of theJW are not following the scriptures when you youself did not not quote any scriptures to show ur facts
. Because i notice that u deliberately seperated them from the other witnesses.

One thing that struct me though is this, its like u may have been one of them that was kicked out and you took offence or something of that sort.
Or, are you saying that all your info about them however it is, is as a result of your being a passive observer?

Am aware that war report are best told by former soldiers.

If that is the case i may have reasons to understand why u are going round on all info that you have and twisting things.

Meanwhile, am wandering what the spiritual benefit of my discussion with you will be?
U hadly quote any scriptures to prove ur point as we had agreed that we will(basing all our discuss on the bible)
is it that u dont like, trust/read the bible anymore, or u want me to tag with u on words without using the bible?

How spiritual will this our friendship becomes, (note bad friends spoils useful harbits)

note; the litle bible i know now is as a result of there "bad" effort (the witness) according to you

i agree with u that religion in politics will make the world a better place as we can see in Nigeria, or is it the involvement of the JW that will fixe the world? Irrespective of the effort of all the well meaning people?

It is possible that all witnesses all over the world are suffering from brain drain or brain wash according to u, and none of them can see what u are saying, is it that u could not see what they are seeing?

Whatever the case, ur effort since the 1950's in politics (after leaving or refusing to join them) have fixed the world of its problems, is it that u need only the remaining witnesses to join you in politics to succeed?

Is it a grudge for their governing elders that are not interested in the good life that politics offer that you hate?
So u want them to mix religion and politics?

I know that all the war that have been fouth in the 20century is all about someone entering someone childrens room with a dagger, but if it is not, may this show to what level and capacity you have in bending and twisting issues, and expecially in showing the real person you are.

Thank you for justifying all the religious wars.
Thanks for justifying the dead of all innocent people as a result of religious conflicts.

To you it is the group that has always remain neutral that is the problem here.

To u there none involvement in war is bad for not killing innocent people that die as a result of war.

There obedience to the bible injunction "that they will not learn war anymore" is the instruction from there governing elders that is not base on the scriptures.

Why wont you say such? Afterall you dont read the bible it seems, so, how would you know?
that explain the reason for ur unjustified accusations here.
If you do read and cant quote the bible on a religious thread where then will you do it? That is if you are religious.

May be, ur thrust is not the bible, if so, why do you think u stand a chance of knowing the sense of an issue in the bible Genesis to Revelation to make an inform decission?

The stand of JW is the bible, so, if u wish to fouther this issue, come forward with the scriptures u think they are defaulting, then you will get a reply.

Meanwhile, i have a coppy of the 1975 issue of the magazine in question and i did not get the sense u got.

People like you made me to look for it.
Peace

Christianity Etc › Re: Should Atheists Have Their Own Board? by truthislight: 1:40pm On Jul 23, 2012

justaqad: and who do you think will visit atheist board?
Nah i like atheist around,especially logicboy.
Atleast atheist re thorn on christians flesh.hehehehehehehehehe

^^^Just imagine that!
Very very funny.

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