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Christianity EtcRe: SOS Cameroon by truthislight: 9:27pm On Sep 04, 2013
FOLYKAZE: Hey OP.

We are facing our own problem in this nation. We tired of massive exploitation from religion.....lets solve our own problem first....cameroon will come next
Religion seems to have lost it bearing.
Christianity EtcRe: SOS Cameroon by truthislight: 9:23pm On Sep 04, 2013
SOSCameroon: Some weeks ago President Paul Biya of Cameroon ordered the closure of many Pentescotal churches. There's lamentations everywhere. No place of worship. Though the constitution states freedom of worship, yet the government has violated this article. I know the Western world is behind all this. They know the churches are against homosexuality, and they are using this factor to weaken the unity of believers.
What amazes me the most is the fact that, there is no prophet in the land to stand and speak for the people. Everybody is lukewarm about the whole issue. BUT MY HEART BLEEDS FOR THE FUTURE OF MY DEAR FATHERLAND.
PLS JOIN ME PRAY FOR CAMEROON!!!


(Front page pls)
You have spoken just onesidedly about religion, what about the problems that religion causes ?

Not to talk of the exploitations ?
Christianity EtcRe: Rapture, Armagedon, Second Coming ,and Final Judgement: I'm Confused by truthislight: 8:37pm On Sep 04, 2013
plaetton: He he he.
So just call me an atheist, and then case closed?.
Haba!

I opened this thread to ask for clarifications on what I read in the bible.
If I cannot understand the bible, and you cannot explain what is written, then of what use is it?

Why waste your time babbling and babbling if you do not know what you are babbling about , or how to explain it to another person.

Are you saying that if I am not a christian, then I cannot be able to understand what is written in the bible?

All the questions I asked where very valid questions that any sunday school child would ask.

What I think has happened here is that I have inadvertently shown you how very confused you are about what you believe.

I would have felt better if you had simply told me that only holy spirit can answer those questions. lol

Well, I am human, and I need simple human answers to those questions.

So please come again.
Try again, I am listening.
But sarcasm is hardly the way to learn i guess undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Rapture, Armagedon, Second Coming ,and Final Judgement: I'm Confused by truthislight:
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Christianity EtcRe: Rapture, Armagedon, Second Coming ,and Final Judgement: I'm Confused by truthislight: 8:11pm On Sep 04, 2013
grin

very curious i am.

Not when the "evil genius" himself is at work !

Ah !

About this:
plaetton: Pls examine your words carefully.
We know that upon death, the body dissolves into it's constituent elements.
Right?
Mmmmmm !

Even the yam you eat have to completely desolved into the soil befor it produces a new stem right ?

Ah ! How easily we overlook reality of nature, especially if it comes from this angle >>> religion to an atheist.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 6:32pm On Sep 04, 2013
benalvino: You always call someone liar for things you dont know... thats bad for you o...

this will help you because i did not write the bible but i quote from them... see a bunch of verses

New International Version
He replied, "I saw [/b]Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

New Living Translation
"Yes," he told them, "[b]I saw
Satan fall from heaven like lightning!

English Standard Version
And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

Peace
New American Standard Bible
And He said to them, "I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning.

King James Bible
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
He said to them, "I watched Satan fall from heaven like a lightning flash.

International Standard Version
He told them, "I watched Satan falling from heaven like lightning.

NET Bible
So he said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
But he said to them, “I was beholding Satan himself who fell like lightning from Heaven.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Jesus said to them, "I watched Satan fall from heaven like lightning.

Jubilee Bible 2000
And he said unto them, I[b] beheld[/b] Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

King James 2000 Bible
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

American King James Version
And he said to them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

American Standard Version
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan fallen as lightning from heaven.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And he said to them: I saw Satan like lightening falling from heaven.

Darby Bible Translation
And he said to them, I beheld Satan as lightning falling out of heaven.

English Revised Version
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan fallen as lightning from heaven.

Webster's Bible Translation
And he said to them, I beheld [/b]Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Weymouth New Testament
"I [b]saw
Satan fall like a lightning-flash out of Heaven," He replied.

World English Bible
He said to them, "I saw Satan having fallen like lightning from heaven.

Young's Literal Translation
and he said to them, 'I was beholding the Adversary, as lightning from the heaven having fallen;

see the definition... because you dont know you say am a liar... SMH
[size=18pt]be·hold (b-hld)
v. be·held (-hld), be·hold·ing, be·holds
v.tr.
1.
a. To perceive by the visual faculty; see: beheld a tiny figure in the distance.
b. To perceive through use of the mental faculty; comprehend: "Behold the man of the future" (Jerry Adler).
2. To look upon; gaze at: We beheld a beautiful vista before us. See Synonyms at see1.[/size]
Of all the translations, the one that serves you well is this New American Standard Bible.

Well, there is what that is called pastTense, present tense, 'present continues', ending with 'ing'.

All i know, that portion of the bible was talking about what was to happen to satan in the future and not what was happening to satan as he receives that report from his Disciples in verse 17.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight:
Logicboy03: I see much of Jesoul in HBG.

When Jesoul started, she was an intolerant and religious bigot. Then she met deists and atheists. She became less conservative in her christianity. HBG is just starting to see how equality really works. She can now see that for every insult she allows on unbelievers, she has to allow an equal insult to christians.
Uyi Iredia: Trying so hard to make a devil out of a dove . . .





. . . and failing at it.
cheesy

aManFromMars:
No mind that guy..
Because JeSoul no get im time... Imagine comparing HBG with JeSoul...


The gods spit on you
angry
@ aManFromMars,

who really is this guy ^ ?

Really a different/new bread. grin

"old things shall pass away". grin
Christianity EtcRe: From catholic To "Catholic" And Back To catholic! by truthislight: 1:06pm On Sep 04, 2013
Enigma: Meanwhile, let me remind you of this! wink




When you find where Jesus Christ, any of the apostles or anywhere in the Bible says "nothing should be done without the bishop", call me! smiley

smiley
^

That ^ is very funny indeed. grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 8:58am On Sep 04, 2013
Tgirl4real: Saying that the day of the Lord is at hand is actually VERY encouraging. Are you not tired living under the system of this world?
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 5:31pm On Sep 03, 2013
Mintayo: @Ajibam
You cant just keep quiet about this,i am sure you know that he has no reason to lock-up that thread...i dnt knw where u guys meet,but i think u have to report this guy ,he is abusing his 'temporal' power...
^^^

Mmmm! Smh.

You people really want Obediah to fall.

Is it because of the fact that he has been receiving praises ?

Na wao
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 4:38pm On Sep 03, 2013
Ajibam: @obadiah

Why Did you hid man of war's post accusation!!!

Which Rule did it break??
Why are you asking him this publicly ?

Is it a query ?

Should you not have held your peace and respect your fellow mods decission if any ?

Or ask him in camera ?
Na wao my friend.
Smh.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight:
benalvino: You miss the Point man... the main Point is Only Begotten son!

Jesus creating of things was the fathers doing... But tell me which of the angels created all things... and which of the angel was in the beginning and which of the angel was the word and the word was God?

everything was Yahweh... yes and what about if Yahweh use the angels? but nope he did not instead he is asking you which of the angels are anytime did he ever say, sit on my right hand etc...

it is not about first son... Ok who is second son?
there is nothing like firstson.... some satanist teach that jesus is the 2nd son and satan is the first son... that is bull shit... dont bring first son because you cant tell me who is second son....

even the angels work for the father loyally from the start...

heaven is not earth when someone accuse your father you fight him...
we are talking about angels here... besides if you must know in luke Jesus said he watch satan fall out of heaven...
job said satan was present him self along with the sons of God
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. -Job 1:6

The seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.” And He said to them, “I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning." -Luke 10:17-18

this is not what we are talking about... we are talking about Jesus being an angel or not an angel
You are a very good liar.

Even twisting what the bible say.

See what you posted about luke is completely different from what is recorded there:

"And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. And he said unto them,
I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
" (Luke 10:17-18).

Compare that ^ with what you posted:

The seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.” And He said to them,
"“I was watching" Satan fall from heaven
like lightning." -Luke 10:17-18

^

you twisted that scripture so that you can say that Jesus only watches 'what' things happening in heaven right ?

I did not expect any better from you any way !

Jesus said he beheld or sees satan falling from heaven, but you twist it and say he was "watching"(pastTens) satan falling.

Why that ?

That incident was a prophesy of what will happen to satan in the future since already his Demons were trambling.

You see yourself ?

Arguing with you is a waste. Dead conscience, twisting the bible to your own ends.

Smh
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 8:35am On Sep 03, 2013
That the first son of a king is being treated differently does that mean that other sons of the king are not the king real sons ?

Jesus creating of things was whose doing ?

Jesus performing of miracles was whose doing ?

Everything was Yahweh's, Yahweh gave him the power for all he did.

Just like all the things the first son of a king dose is via his fathers kingship, power and authority.

If someone takes over the kings thrones, the first son becomes useless.

Jesus as a wise son works for the father loyally from the start, thwarting all of satan's plans.

Do you mean while Jesus was in heaven as a first born son, he folded his hands and watched satan thwarts his father's plans and he did nothing ? No.

If he did something, when ? Point it out, or you then implied that he did nothing, which is impossible.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 11:50pm On Sep 02, 2013
Ihedinobi: THAT'S my girl, dammit! grin
undecided

lol grin
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 11:33pm On Sep 02, 2013
Kai !

I did not come to NL for this:

[quote author=uj_sizzle] Don't be silly. Calling an action unreasonable and in no way means the individual doing them is.
She made a rule on that thread, common courtesy demands that even if a 'higher power' had demanded she decongests the pinned thread that she atleast informs us...one 'hey guys i'm gonna change this thread to a general chatbox thing, it's beyond my control' won't hurt, will it? The one thing i'd never wish for her is downfall..i love her way too much for that, you have no idea and i certainly don't want her job. Being a Christian sister like you put it demands i say the truth always to both friends and foe alike, that's all i've done, and i do know being a mod in this section requires objectivity which i've earlier stated.
So do me a favor and stop 'unknowingly' (i'd assume) sowing a seed of discord. Do not misinterprete my words as insults.[/quote]have a nice day.

"Evil communication spoils useful manners".
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 10:40pm On Sep 02, 2013
[quote author=uj_sizzle]You were being unreasonable when you changed the name of that thread. Just few months ago you asked MMW to lock that thread even when you knew there were others using it....that was stewpid, but i let it pass cos MMW had sense enough to refuse. And then you wake up one morning and decide a name change outta the blues and expected everyone to just roll with the flow? iLaugh. You should learn to keep your own rules sweety.[/quote]Hmmmmmmm! !

If she replies you in like manner now they will call her a bad mod.

Do you want her to fall ?

Do you want her Job ?

Smh for "christian sister" to sister talk in public.

What if she was ask to decongest the sticky and accommodate all person and she started from home (hers) ?

Afteral, "charity they say begins at home".

So, she should have left hers and attacked that of others first ?

Na wao !
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 10:21pm On Sep 02, 2013
benalvino: exactly... dodge yes or no question
cool

huh

What ?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight:
benalvino: It means it was not taking from him to be equal with God... he made him self nothing....
Edit: Looking at the fact that he gave all that away to die for us... he didnt regard equally with God, but too the nature of a servant
What !


thought it not robbery
= >>>>>
"It means it was not taking from him to be equal with God"...

huh Smh.

Men ! You are confused, go and sleep
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight:
benalvino: I ask yes or no oh! lol... lets look at Phil 2:6
Philippians 2:6-8

King James Version (KJV)
6 Who, being in the [size=14pt]form of God[/size], [size=18pt]thought it not robbery to be equal with God:[/size]
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
That ^ translation you posted, can you please, explain to us what you mean by:

"thought it not robbery"
?


please, tell us the meaning, am waiting
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 9:32pm On Sep 02, 2013
satanist: if it aint for science you would probably be tying wrapper, fetching water from the stream with a clay pot to a mud house..... SCIENCE IS THE DRIVING FORCE OF HUMANITY, BECAUSE IF SCIENTIST DIDNT EXIST AND WE WAITED FOR A NON EXISTENT gOD TO PERFORM WONDERS, WE WOULD PROBABLY BE STUCK IN THE STONE AGE, THIS IS WHAT MY FELLOW ATHEIST HAVE COME TO REALIZE....... HUMANITY WITHOUT SCIENCE IS DEAD.
Rule nos 11.

Dont post in all caps.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 9:27pm On Sep 02, 2013
shocked
Pastor Kun: @Grammepolice

You missed the bolded tongue
^^^ grin

striktlymi: It is Grammar not "Grammer" ...remove the amala in ya eyes...
shocked

^^^ grin

Rolling on the ground with laughter ! Lol. grin

The new staff of grammar police! Lol. grin

@ ma friend PKun, how work naw ?

truthislight: Are you the new staff of that jobless "police" ?

Do the Job well o! cheesy
shocked
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 9:00pm On Sep 02, 2013
benalvino: did the bible say he was a spirit servant then took the form of a human servant? Lmao... i dont laugh die...
it says he was in the form God... despite he can be in equality with God... he did not take it as advantage... He make him self a servant...

Now you done come with spirit servant and human servant again. LOL

for a simple yes or no question
Despite being in a superior form > spirit form, he humbled himself and took the form of man, > a lower form.

God is a spirit :

"God is a Spirit:[s] and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.[/s] " (John 4:24).

Jesus was a spirit in God form, a superior form, but took the form of man. Dazz all !
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 8:53pm On Sep 02, 2013
benalvino: I ask you a question you are asking me back... How on earth will i know what a servant look like... are servants suppose to look a certain way? How does the holy spirit look like? how does eve look like? your question no be question... So answer Yes or no
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So, servant no get form ? Lol. grin
Christianity EtcRe: FAITH=DOUBT, RELIGIOUS FAITH= Extreme Form Of Atheism. We Are All Atheists(2) by truthislight: 8:23pm On Sep 02, 2013
Logicboy03: Lol......

Smh......I am weak....how do I address this guy’s ignorance?
Lol. grin

nothing to "address", you can only assess Yahweh based on what he says and did. QED.

You cannot take panadol for another persons headache. Neither will Yahweh.

Why coined a word, defined it and attribut it to Yahweh ?
Christianity EtcRe: Questions For Frosbel On Tithing by truthislight: 8:17pm On Sep 02, 2013
Bidam: Lol, why not make a productive use of your time to address yooguyz who is on a smearing campaign of your organization all over nairaland,instead constituting a nuisance of yourself here. I can help provide a link.

https://www.nairaland.com/1417830/hypocrites-jehovahs-witness-abandons-secret#1417830.15
cool

smh for fraud stars.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 8:08pm On Sep 02, 2013
benalvino: How can it not make sense?

The question is:
[size=28pt]Did he take the form of a servant ?[/size]

Yes or No?
how does the "form of a servant" look like ?

Please answer !

I feel you dont know what you are saying, but then, you can prove me wrong by telling us how "the form of a servant" look like.

No fall your hand o!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 8:01pm On Sep 02, 2013
benalvino: Lmao... you have diverted. the Question left unanswered... If Jesus took upon the form of a servant it means there was a time he was not a servant... if this case is true then he is not michael or angel.

hebrew 1:8 no concern me... because it is not what we are discussing...
All sons of yahweh serves Yahweh.

What kind of a son are you to your ......... Sef ?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 7:31pm On Sep 02, 2013
benalvino: Lol... you still dont get the point dont you...

me and you are created long after "the beginning"... Jesus was there... he was before all things all angels...
Me and you dont know when he became a servant or precisely when he became a servant... but what we do know is that at a point in time... He was in the [size=18pt]Form GOD[/size] then later he took upon the form of a [size=18pt]servant[/size]

Compare the above to angels was created as servants... their work is to serve God...
From their creation till today they are servants... they never took upon the form servant they were created like that...

Remember the bible say Jesus did not take equally with God at his own advantage... that tells you he was God... The word was God... the word Became flesh.

[size=18pt]again Jesus took upon the form servant which means there was a time he was not servant.[/size]
That ^ DOES not make any sense.

Jesus took the form of man to save man by paying the ransom.

He was sent from heaven, that makes him a servant to Yahweh as a loyal faithful and humble son and not like satan a rebel !

Jesus said that his food is to do the will of his father.
And he also taught his followers to be humble and serve one another.

Satan was the one who refused to be humble, hence Jesus sets a fine example for all and the angels thereby setting a precedent that becomes a basis for Judging the fallen angels.

Why are you here going all against what Jesus stands for ?

Jesus is a very humble person that obeys his fathers will, simple!

When he washed his disciples feet what did it take from him ?

That i serve my father makes me what ?

That i was created as a servant ?..................... huh
The bible calls all faithful angles sons of God.
The bible also calls Jesus son of God > begotten son, but 'son'.

that i and my siblings all serve our father, then what ?
That i am the 'leader' of those that serve in my father's house takes what out from me ? Nothing !

Is that ^ service to my father a curse ?

You people decided to believe what you wish and decided to force Jesus into it, na wao ! embarassed

all faithful sons of God serves him and are his servants.

All faithfull angels, messengers, servants of Yahweh are sons of Yahweh.

Did Jesus not say we should call Yahweh "our father" ?

Dont you know it is the greatest privilege to be a servant and to be serving the creator of the univers ? >>> YAHWEH !
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 6:40pm On Sep 02, 2013
Pastor Kun: @Grammerpolice

You missed the bolded tongue
Are you the new staff of that jobless "police" ?

Do the Job well o! cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight:
@ Seun

this is your websight, hence your forum.

Anybody that opens a thread that is not meant to educate, expound on his/her religious beliefs like you clearly stated above, but to curse and insult others without an intent of educating, hence not meeting your expectation should be ban and if need be the IP ID should be ban also.

No one has the right to spoil or destroy your business for you by chasing other people away.

It is as simple as that.

Thank you.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 4:42pm On Sep 02, 2013
benalvino: Lmao now heavenly servant has entered...

Ok you mean jesus was in the Form heavenly Servant then Took upon earthly servant? haahahahaaha.

You people will kill me today...

Isaiah says Yahweh will Send his Servant YES!!!! But was Jesus in the Form God? if Yes... then there should be a time when he was not a servant abi?

^^ the above is what i want you guys to digest...

you dont send a King on an errandhuhhuh I dont see your point there...

He is a servant in heaven know Because humans are not saved yet... Simple as that... till he hand everything to the father.



Your Questions are deviating from the topic.
If he was not a servant of Yahwe in heaven, it means you can send a king on an errand and at the same time say you are sending your servant.

If you cannot understand that ^ impossibility, then, am afraid, we are wasting our time on you.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Jesus, The Son Of God, Is NOT An Angel by truthislight: 4:16pm On Sep 02, 2013
@ Benalvino

I thought the bible said while he was on earth he was "made a little lower than the angels", so, how can his servant hood on earth equals his servant hood in heaven ?

Heavenly servant hood is greater than human earthly servant.

That Isaiah said that Yahweh will send his servant says it all.

You dont send a king on an errand and at the same time say you are sending your servant, impossible !

So, Jesus coming to earth was bringing him far lower than what he was befor, that is where the humility came in, not that he was not a servant befor.

After he came to earth, Jesus was elevated above all names as a reward, greater than what he was befor, or, was he down-graded on getting back to heaven ? No.

How come he is still a messenger/servant of Yahweh right there in heaven now ?

Has he became Yahweh's boss after the elevation if he was not a servant of Yahweh befor ?

By the way, who elevated him ?

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