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AbdH: Allah promised Mohammad paradise and even a chapter in the holy Qur'an is dedicated to him to that effect and it goes thus:

1)Indeed, We have granted you, [O Muhammad], al-Kawthar (fount of abundance in heaven)
2)So pray to your Lord and sacrifice [to Him alone]
3)Indeed, your enemy is the one cut off.
..........Chapter 108 of the holy Qur'an..........

alexis: Which Jesus are we talking about? The Jesus in the Quran or the Jesus in the Bible?

1. The Jesus in the Bible was born in a manger. The one in the Quran was born under a palm tree
2. The Jesus in the Bible never spoke as a baby. The one in the Quran spoke as an adult and created a live bird out of clay
3. The Jesus in the Bible was killed and died. The one in the Quran never died, or did die in some places but muslims reject it
4. The Jesus in the Bible was crucified. The one in the Quran said he was not

So, we need to know which Jesus you are talking about

RoyPCain: @desika; Was it possible that The Prophet [SA] heard the sound of the shoes of Bilal bin Rabah [RA] ahead of him, in Paradise while Rabah was still alive on earth, yet passed the prophets [AS] in the heavens before? Yes. Evidence from the Bible i present Ephesians 2;6;


Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by Bidam: 7:19pm On Jun 27

frosbel:

Hmm, nope.

I said Jesus is present through the Spirit of GOD anywhere and everywhere , specifically where 2 or 3 are gathered together in his name.

Try not to misquote me.

At least I do not think the resurrection is past and the saints are already awake in heaven.


smiley

You also misquoted me, i never said resurrection is past.I said since Christ is resurrected we are seated with him in heavenly places,which of cos is in your bible except you have torn that part.


@basilico; When The prophet [SA] went to heaven and heard sound of shoes in Paradise, this was the early years of his Islam and long before Hijra to Madina. The only death were from the occasion of the demise of Sumayya. As Martyrs, they were already in Paradise and there will be many groups of Muslims that will not have to give account because God has wiped off their mistakes. And Adam all the way to Isaac, none of them was Jewish. Even Jacob was not Jewish because Jew is race named after his son Judah. I dont know a father taking up his son's name as if he is the son of his own son, hence being his own grandson. its impossible.



@truthman2012;You are not being realistic. How do you get to Paradise? Is it not from Hell after crossing? Why do you want to prove Allah and Bukhari wrong? Na wa for you o!

How is crossing hell to mean not crossing over it without feeling the effect if others trying to cross it fall into it? does it not mean that if you don't fall into it, and not scourged by it in the process of crossing that the crossing was on a safety passage?

RoyPCain: @desika; Was it possible that The Prophet [SA] heard the sound of the shoes of Bilal bin Rabah [RA] ahead of him, in Paradise while Rabah was still alive on earth, yet passed the prophets [AS] in the heavens before? Yes. Evidence from the Bible i present Ephesians 2;6;


Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by Bidam: 7:19pm On Jun 27

frosbel:

Hmm, nope.

I said Jesus is present through the Spirit of GOD anywhere and everywhere , specifically where 2 or 3 are gathered together in his name.

Try not to misquote me.

At least I do not think the resurrection is past and the saints are already awake in heaven.


smiley

You also misquoted me, i never said resurrection is past.I said since Christ is resurrected we are seated with him in heavenly places,which of cos is in your bible except you have torn that part.


@basilico; When The prophet [SA] went to heaven and heard sound of shoes in Paradise, this was the early years of his Islam and long before Hijra to Madina. The only death were from the occasion of the demise of Sumayya. As Martyrs, they were already in Paradise and there will be many groups of Muslims that will not have to give account because God has wiped off their mistakes. And Adam all the way to Isaac, none of them was Jewish. Even Jacob was not Jewish because Jew is race named after his son Judah. I dont know a father taking up his son's name as if he is the son of his own son, hence being his own grandson. its impossible.



@truthman2012;You are not being realistic. How do you get to Paradise? Is it not from Hell after crossing? Why do you want to prove Allah and Bukhari wrong? Na wa for you o!

How is crossing hell to mean not crossing over it without feeling the effect if others trying to cross it fall into it? does it not mean that if you don't fall into it, and not scourged by it in the process of crossing that the crossing was on a safety passage?

deols: Divorce is allowed in Islam. After zaid divorced his wife, the prophet married her.

Note that Zaid was a slave of the prophet whom the prophet adopted.

A biological son is not the same as an adopted one. How uneasy is that for anyone to understand.

RoyPCain: @truthman2012; watch this real life miracle that is alive, today; http://on.aol.com/video/12-year-old-boy-taken-to-morgue-while-still-alive-517837603?hp=1&playlist=127167&icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl4|sec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D337534


when Jesus [as] shall in the clear sight of people descend on earth from heaven, i do hope whoever among the christians will quickly know Islam has been the only religion from God. dont miss the chance to enter it before you enter the grave which you will enter in spite of your hope for rapture.

RoyPCain: @truyjman2012; even though i am tired, i will oblige you as long as you are civil.
yes. his [as] grave has been ready for over a 1,000 years, right where the prophet [sa] is buried.
if i were you, i will research it out and reflect about it all, asking myself; what if Jesus is not not God because can not be a man or son of man; Jesus was both.

Allah did not want the enemies of prophet Jesus [as] who must also be the enemies of God to succeed.
in his return, he will not have the same enemies.

his return, you need just to search the return of Jesus according tot the hadith of the prophet. you will how everything is including the general areas he will descent to in damascus syria.

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RoyPCain: @cleanvessel: maybe the muslims find you and people like you unreasonably so ignorant. or they have other reasons, but definitely not because they think that you are correct that the prophet [SA] does not actually not know his destination. far from it because they would have no reason to be muslims anymore.

the messenger [sa] disqualified the 'not sure' that you so much think is a sure thing by his Praising Allah with "only by the Mercy of Allah". in reality it means that Muhammad [sa] is paradise guaranteed and what guaranteed it is the Guaranty from Allah. There are many evidence to this. like a brother said before, chapter 108 is enough; the kawthar is in paradise and Allah made it for Muhammad [sa]. what use is a kawthar without the one who its been dedicated to in its uses? while everything points to reality, you are free to hold on to your empty position.

if you think a person has to completely dies to be a candidate for Paradise, what do you say if a person dies and enter hell? can he be a person who will enter paradise without 'the Mercy of God'? and should a person who enters hell and does not need the mercy of God to get out be considered a believer?


When Muhammad [sa] gave good news of paradise to many of his men and women companions [ra] based on deeds that are simple, but superseded by their pure faith and he stated that first 3 generations were the ones best, better, good in descending order, you can't say such a person is destined for other than paradise and expect someone at least will not take you up on your false statement.

Islam is for thinking people otherwise anything will go in the lives of those who do not think. If Muhammad [sa] would have said the Mercy of Allah is not needed for him, maybe by extension, the people and even us here would be saying we just have to say Muhammad [sa] is the last messenger and don't think about his Lord The Merciful? maybe from among us a concept would have developed and became the overwhelm concept and it will be similar to what Paul came up with? maybe, i said, so Alhamdulillah that Muhammad [sa] was not the type who will create the impression of arrogance in his community.

Anyone who thinks deeply will realize that humans are looking for cheap or give away or freebee, instead of putting effort out to success. The wisdom of the prophet [sa] by the Mercy of Allah did not give any opening from his lips or actions that God is not All all the time.


Let me share a true story with you of an event that i witnessed. during school vacation so long ago, a group of students with a lot of time of their hands decided to go for an evening drive. they took a car from a pool of cars in a stable of one of the boys. they always do this anyways, so there was nothing to it. they have traveled out of states before so driving within city limit was nothing to it. right. but this particular drive was going to have its own elements, its own twists, its own never to forget points. one of the boys, the driver decided to impress a woman who was a friend by letting her drive. there are 3 distinctive points to note here; the driving intending to impress was not the 'owner' of the car meaning he is not from the family but a close friend. the other thing is that the girl never was behind a steering wheel before. and the thing to note is that the person whose family owned the car objected, but the objection for some reason didnt take hold. so the woman drove right to the Fishing pond at UI and wreck the car.

the moral of the story is that if car to drive was not easily accessible to the young boys, who were not driving school instructors, there would not have an over confidence so much so that a novice was made to sit on the seat of expert [licensed] and the result was disaster.

A person who is over confident will be ruined because of the arrogance. When you are confident before your Lord, you have factored Him out and you have replaced Him with your confidence and that is disbelief.

For sure over confidence is how satan become the rejected. Is over confidence that got pharaoh to his ruined state. It is over confidence that made hitler what he is. No one who is over confident has not seen disaster.


if i didnt know better but accept the narrative of Jesus life only through the bible, we can see that over confidence leads to disaster.

tosin2013: Answer his ques if u can! If u can't then u qualify for d adjectives he used to describe u n ur likes; stupidity n ignoramus!

manmacho: are you joking; allah approve another man's wife for the prophet!!!!! somebody please clarify this

RoyPCain: @truthman2012: Allah is the One Who says in the Quran that Jesus will come back and die.

1]. Jesus was not killed or died when you say he was killed by dying on the cross.

2]. jesus will return as a sign of Hour.

3]. Every soul shall taste death.

all of the above leads clearly to Jesus [as] will die when he returns.

there is a grave already dug for his [as] body in madina.

RoyPCain: @truthman2012;

i see why the likes of those who take their ques from answering islam are not getting the memo that is been around for over 1,400 years. sam shamoun, david woods and people like that including pastor joseph and dr white, they a posting what you are using as your resources with trinity in mind. therefore where they see it obliterated in the bible and in the Quran, they are blind to it. do jews even now that they have deviated far from what Moses brought believe God is a human being? no. so even in their disbelief they know God is not a man or son of man.

write2obi: i think you are right, are u a Muslim?

RoyPCain: @truthman2012;

you may invite desika to share in your "Elijah has came in the person of John" says Jesus. You must agree that John is already dead. What you are saying is that Elijah tasted death, finally, if Jesus was correct and John was the one incorrect about himself.

At any rate, we know Elijah as John died. Transfer that process to Jesus coming back to taste death. did you get that desika that John as Elijah's return became adult before he died? Jesus will return as adult to die. This should settle your why would Jesus be the only one to return and live. He will live and then will die, peacefully and be raised up for Judgment, peacefully.


@cleanvessel; "Jesus will be a sign for the Judgment day" does not make him any Judge on Judgment Day. The Quran never made any man or angel or anything other than Allah The Judge of Judgment Day. If you see anything like that in the Quran, show it to all. stop confusing truthman2012.

tosin2013: See urself? Aw ur embarrasing urself? Obviously u don't know zip about islam yet u keep blabing!
U were asked for an intellectual response yet u start looking for witches n wizards?!
Oh I forgot! Dats what u do every Sunday!!!

My friend u won't even measure up to my 6yr old niece!

There's an ancient chinese saying; "don't start none, there won't be none."
Meaning don't start what u can't finish!

Since u can't give any evidence, I say
ADIOS AMIGOS SUPERCLOWN!

write2obi: how do covering of face prevent fornication? how do covering of face prevent fornication?

ayenny02: DESIKA let me lecture you about the EARTH, HEAVEN and PARADISE, from there you will know the different btw Heaven (sa'ma) and paradise

DESIKA, I want you to open your Quran chapter 31:10, where Allah said

"He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of
noble creature, in pairs

DESIKA, do you see that the heaven was created by Allah without pillar. Also I want you to go to chapter 67:3 where Allah created 7 heavens: this is where your friend "TRUTHMAN" refered to in his topic that Prophet (saw) went to heaven and saw some prophet of Allah;

"Who created the seven heavens one above another: No want of proportion wilt thou see in the Creation of (Allah) Most Gracious. So turn thy vision again: seest thou any flaw?


DESIKA, have you seen that Allah created 7 heavens. now,in the day of judgement Allah will destroy the earth and heaven, you can now go to chapter 39:67 where Allah said;

"No just estimate have they made of Allah, such as is due to Him: On the Day of Judgment the whole of the earth will be but His handful, and the heavens will be rolled up in His right hand: Glory to Him! High is He above the Partners they attribute to Him

DESIKA, did you see in that verse above that in judgement day there is nothing like earth and heaven again.

Ayenny: Desika do you understand
Desika: I understand Sir
Ayenny: desika can I continue?
Desika : continue sir

Now, Who are going to enter Paradise?
Desika, go to chapter 9 Verse 20 -21 where Allah said;

"Those who believe, and suffer exile and strive with might and main, in Allah's cause, with their goods and their persons, have the highest rank in the sight of Allah: they are the people who will achieve (salvation)

21--Their Lord doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy from Himself, of His good pleasure, and of gardens(paradise) for them, wherein are delights that endure:


DESIKA, from that verses above when it was revealed, the prophet (saw) explained it in hadith to his companions in Volume 4, Book 52, Number 48:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Whoever believes in Allah and His Apostle, offer prayer perfectly and fasts the month of Ramadan, will rightfully be granted Paradise by Allah, no matter whether he fights in Allah's Cause or remains in the land where he is born." The people said, "O Allah's Apostle ! Shall we acquaint the people with the is good news?" He said, "PARADISE has ONE-HUNDRED GRADES which Allah has reserved for the Mujahidin who fight in His Cause, and the distance between each of two grades is like the distance between the HEAVEN and the Earth. So, when you ask Allah (for something), ask for Al-firdaus which is the best and highest part of Paradise." (i.e. The sub-narrator added, "I think the Prophet also said, 'Above it (i.e. Al-Firdaus) is the Throne of Beneficent (i.e. Allah), and from it originate the rivers of Paradise."


DESIKA, can you see from the hadith above that the paradise has 100 grades where one grade is like distance btw heaven and earth.

write2obi: the question is why they cover Their face? I'll like to knw the real reason behind the face covering?