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gearcoin:
so u think many people are jobless like u.
please dont quote me again.

truthman2012:
Where are the islamic apologists in the house?

As allahh declared himself not the God of the Jews and Christians, who is he?

bashbabe2:
Stop bloody wasting your time with islam and Muslims . When you have successfully prevented your fellow christians from leaving and becoming athiest then come and preach to us.These are people that need to be preached to. They are not convinced and more confused about Christianity and You are opening irrelevant islamic thread to people who by Allah's will are on the right path. You are such a deluded and jobless somebody
There are many attributes of Allah that are better than the word love. And there is a name of Allah that means love. T
AL-WADÛD The Loving One

It shows you are a liar and an attention seeker. stop embarrassing yourself on a public forum

malvisguy212:
listen, Jesus did not substitute any law, what Jesus was doing , is solving man problems of sin.

The law is a manifestation of the perfect
holiness of God, and was given to us
(humanity) to show how utterly unable
we are to meet God's standard by our
own means, strength or works (Romans
7:7).
When the law was introduced, it was
never intended to be the instrument by
which man would save himself, but it
was the instrument through which man
was to be saved. In a very real sense,
man is saved through the fulfilment
(keeping) of the law.

Jesus explained that the moral commandments were not to be followed merely to the letter of the law, but also to the intent of the law. So, it was not enough to abstain from adultery, but God required that one not even look on a woman with lust (Matthew 5:27-28).

Likewise, it is not enough to abstain from murder, but God requires that nobody hate another without cause, with calling another person "a fool" making one guilty enough to suffer the judgment of Hell (Matthew 5:21-22).

So God's laws require not only perfect performance, but also perfect attitude and motive. So you are very very wrong in saying Jesus substitute the law.

Surah 13:39: “Allah makes to pass
away and establishes what He
pleases, and with Him is the basis of
the Book.” (Shakir)

If Allah in the Qur’an manifests himself
as the arbitrary god who acts as he
pleases without even honoring his own
sayings, then he is acting in a way that is totally foreign to the truths taught in the Holy Bible. God does not change and neither does his teachings. Every
instance of abrogation is a problem for
the doctrine of an unchanging God.
the God of the Holy Bible is different. He does not change. As such,he can be totally trusted in fulfilling all his promises:

Malachi 3:6: “I am thy Lord and I do
not change.”

gearcoin:
my fellow muslim brothers, dont ever waste your time in replying them.
let the op continue feeling in pain.
This will never allow islam to stop spreading across the world.
Those in the past castigate Islam but yet, Islam still exist and shines.
allow them to be worshiping a human like them. That man will surely deny them hereafter.

truthman2012:
Stop lying my friend.

There was no prophecy in that quranic verse. Does God prophesy? How could you say allah prophesy to Muhammad? It is prophets who prophesy, not God. There is nothing to show in that verse it was a prophecy as everything about the marriage happened immediately. Besides, Zaid didn't divorce his wife willingly, he was forced to divorce her because Muhammad wanted to marry her. No authentic islamic proof (hadith or anything) why Zaid divorced her. What you have are islam clerics' formulations about it in defence of Muhammad.

Allah didn't say taking wives of adopted sons was ACCEPTABLE to the people of old, he said it was their PRACTICE. Don't twist. Now, tell me the people of old who PRACTICED IT according to allahh.

Your defence does not hold water at all:

Where did Moses tell the people to worship only God and satan also spoke through him to tell them to add worshiping the calf?

Did Satan throw anything to Moses desire as a prophet?

Was it Moses who through satan told the people to worship the golden calf?

Look for another lies my friend. These ones you told are not near the answers.

true2god:
This is because Mohammed and allahh is the same person. Mohammed invokes allahh anytime he wanted to scam the sahabas. Aisha, his child bride, once wondered why allahh is always there to approve of Mohammed's greed and sensuality. I will provide the hadith later.

Demmzy15:
No one is trying to twist anything, it's your extremist mind that is twisted.



Your deception is busted once again, the verse never stated "Even if they are". Yusuf Ali's translation placed it in parenthesis or brackets which shows its not part of the original message.

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Yusuf Ali

Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Muhsin Khan

Hope you can see shameless old liar!



The Roman Empire which is also called Byzantine Empire official religion is Christianity. They're known for their persecution of Arians, Copts, Jews(they're brutally persecuted), etc. So since they're Christians, they're "People Of The Book"



You were busted lying, nothing like "even if" in that verse. The war between Muslims and the Romans started when they(Romans) killed the emissaries of Prophet Muhammad which then lead to the battle of Mutah, after which Muslims prepared for Tabuk.



You fail to understand probably because of your old age, you're already weary. Parts of Suratul Tawbah 9 refers to treaties with the pagans which was broken. This is found in Qur'an 9:1-12, 28, etc. When the Muslims took over Makkah during the conquest, verse 29 was revealed concerning the war with the Byzantines or Romans. Subsequently other verses were revealed due to different events, I know you won't understand. But that's your P!



You're the liar here, you were busted above you know?!



Typical with you Christians, whenever you have nothing to say, you bring up "devil deceiving ish". Thrash!



Lie-lieman2012 you're the liar here. Apparently Paul told you to do takkiyah to win converts, but I thank Allah that your folly and deception is exposed for the world to see. Shebi your daughter pause in the air when you shouted Jesus abi? Liar!



Visit page 1-2, it's already explained.



Bla Bla Bla blabbing as usual. Why are you angry/pained? Is it that you can't take simple corrections? OK continu o! Oh yes! I can remember that your god sent lying spirits to his Prophets, so pathetic!



May Allah pardon your ignorance. May he forgive you and cohorts, it's never too late. Allah is Ar-Rahman(The Merciful), he'll surely forgive you!

true2god:
Truthman2012, I seriously admire your courage and consistency in the face of blatant Islamic lies going on on a global scale. telling lies to defend Islamic honour at all cost seems to be the most lucrative industry in this information age.

Saudi Arabia commits millions of dollars on a yearly basis to polish Islam world wide while demonizing christianity in their national media using Arabic languaguge. So it is a battle of information and Muslims are using lies and clears deceit in defending the evil instruction s mohammed gave in qurann 9:5, 29_30, qurann 5:51, all in direct attack against the Christians and the jews .

Lukay99

Just like I said before the Quran does not and will never contradict itself

The first chapter you mentioned specifically mentioned idolaters (juju, voodoo people) while in the second chapter Allah is informing the Muslim that the people of the book(Jew's and Christians)

Lukay99:
Point of correction the Quran is not a revelation of Islamic Allah but a revelation from ALLAH (God) there is no Islamic Allah and non Islamic or regular Allah this just shows your level of Islamic knowledge I'll try my best to answer all your questions to the best of my knowledge your first question was about receiving the book of deed in the left hand or the back the English translation of the Quran is not literally the word of God(Allah) but it's the translator English choice of words of translating the original Arabic language Quran because the Quran was revealed in Arabic language I think you should be bilingual you should know that no 2 languages are the same English and Arabic as a language are not on the same level English as a language is very shallow but Arabic on the other hand is very deep and more complex there are many words in the Quran that the English translation is not doing justice to because there's no proper words in English to best describe it which why we as muslims don't call the English or any other languages translation of the Quran the word of God(Allah) I know many Christians do call the Bible the word of God.
To really understand The first verse you quoted you need to understand that it was revealed in Arabic through a Arab prophet and Arabic people what is their culture like or ways of interacting with one another like if you really want to get the best understanding of the Quran you need to understand Arabic and some of the culture too if a Arab shows you the bottom of his feet is insulting you or give you something with the left hand is not proper so to the best of my knowledge all I can tell you is that Allah is taking in parable just like in many places in the Bible

adewalker:
. To answer ur first question God revealed to mohammad that his adopted son will divorce his wife,that was a prophecy,and when this happens he will marry the woman,but the prophet was shy of saying that to his son,this was neccessarily so people to know the law,now for ur second questions,it simply said it was acceptable to do in the past,and God is now saying its styl acceptable,becos His law never changes,its like saying a muslim can marry up to four wives,u can do it if u want to,but its not a must,there are muslims with one,two,wives,but four is allowed,that is if u deem it fit to have,its not a sin on u,and God is saying it wasn't a sin on the people of old that passed,so it won't be a sin now,so for the people to have no doubt,God told the prophet he will marry his adopted son wife,after he divorced her,now for ur third question...I hope u understand english my bro,cos there's no where did it state satan cast words in their mouth,when the prophets made any revelation to the people,satan tries to add lies by decievig the people from the path,like when moses told the children of isreal to worship God only,but satan add lies to it by telling them the calf was their lord and moses lord,that moses already forgot his lord,so God makes his truth prevail,by making moses burn the calf,and ordering the person responsible killed,so the truth of God always prevails,now ur forth questions,in islam one of the most rewarding deed of a believer is adoption,it is highly adviced,there's now where in any verse of the quran or hadith where adoption is prohibited,prophet says in the hadith"whoever takes care of the orphan will be like close with him,like two pair of finger" so I repeat islam totally supports adoption

malvisguy212:
thank you sir, I almost mistook you for the fake truthman, welcome.

adewalker:
. Now I can help u when u clearly came here not do debate but u came with a heart not ready to listen,I already answered ur questions,but here u are begging the question,so since it seems u don't know wat to say again,maybe u can't provide me the answer to a simple question,can u provide me a verse in the bible where jesus said worship me or dt he will die for the sins of man?,and after that pls can u give me the verse in the bible where God says he is three in one or where abraham,moses and the rest worshipped jesus?ur responds will be deeply appreciated in time

Annunaki:
What do you expect of a self confessed "best of deceivers"

Annunaki:
What do you expect of a self confessed "best of deceivers"

true2god:
We are waiting for the regular islamic response.

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Rilwayne001:
How else are we going to know that you are lieman2012? Shameless old liar.

It's already been confirmed from the quoran that allah is a liar, he calls himself the "best of deceivers"(an attribute of satan) so why will you believe a self confessed liar when he claims that a glaringly confused and terrible piece of literature has no contradiction and there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Demmzy15:
Truthman2012 basilico you have come again ba?! Before I count 3,close this thread.

Rilwayne001:
Truthman2012 a.k.a Basillico, so, what's your point exactly?

dijam:
it was not his so called adoped son s wife but his divorcee. They divorced before the prophet married her so I dont get ur point