₦airaland Forum

opposition to which govt. Notable figures of progress include Bishop Ajayi Crowther who helped in developing literacy and Sapara Williams, the first lawyer in Nigeria

Sanity is coming in the fullness of time. block by block, roof by roof and dollar by dollar ill-gotten Property will CHANGE hands. Change is here!

Aegon:
Why should we pay so much for the oil products in our backyard. Bayelsa spends more to buy fuel than Senegal, why? To think that we had a Niger Delta President for six years and a Deziani all from Bayelsa defies all logic as to why all this should continue. Even though I didn't vote for the incumbent I now know GEJ was truly incompetent.

If Deziani doesn't go to prison then Buhari himself is a fraud.

sir, I took time to check some of your previous posts and I am impressed by your desire to serve in the military and your knowledge of military tactics. With this, you have a great future. My counsel, if I may, is this: air your views with the temparament of liberal education - refraining from prejudicial remarks in the face of provocation. Do not give up on military ambition. cheers

DeeMain:
I gave you a hesitant 'like' for this because I'm interested in looters and evil men going to jail. I have the same disdain and bias against them as I have for terrorists and Boko Haram. They are the cause of terrorism and kidnappings and the underdevelopment in this country.

Loot the commonwealth, return the money and go to jail. Loot small change, return the money with a caution to go home and sin no more.

Hesitant like is golden where insults are freely dished out. be that as it may. nothing would give me joy than to see culprits serve jail terms or some of community service as punishment. I know an ex NANS president now in jail for collecting less than 1m under disputed circumstances of studentship and unionism. There are more suspects outside jail than I side jail yet the jail ie bursting at the seams. in any event, some will go to jail for evasion or obstruction of justice. But let's hold our noses to collect our money. It is always to be remembered that even if we preach with fire sons of Lucifer will eventually go to hell. N.B. accept, patriotically, my 'provional like' lol.

staymore:
Had an argument on this and I wish to clarify, please convincing and factual response is encouraged.
Which one is higher-ranking amongst a senator, minister and governor?

In the US, a Secretary ( minister) is higher than a senator except the Speaker and the President Pro tempore of the Senate. governors come after a senator in federal prorocol unless it an event holding in the governor's state. then he comes after the vice president. Nigeria mostly follows US protocol except in the case of Senate president being higher than the speaker. Minister of finance is first among equals. SGF comes after ministers - subject to presidential assignment.

xtrorse:
May you be delivered from your wicked lies! You, bear the mark of the Lord? And you still boldly propagate lies in the public domain like many of your fellow, supposed Yoruba Christians who still patronise juju houses and play with lies?

The type of politics South West play is politics of god-fatherism and imposition. If not why would criminals like BAT and Obj hold sway in Yoruba kingdom?

Yorubas honours corruption and that is why many of their leaders are corrupt. Even Fela attested to that; that his ethnic brother had to kill Fela's mother to get back at him for exposing the secret code of their corruption.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Allahu Akbar. May God have mercy. I spoke no evil about any tribe. no one should be angry with vipers who can only but spit venom and vermins.

ZKOSOSO:
CNPP has always been Anti-South political outfit with a permanent Osita Almajiri since 1999!
He sit in his room here in Abuja and stew out trash to collect his Paycheque.

To speak against corruption is to speak against south? why not insist on investigation of all leaders wealth instead of let by gone be by gone. the gospel of 'bygones' is half truth.restitution is the full gospel truth. I am not interested in anyone going to jail, for all have sinned. but let anyone with tax payers money return them conscientiously and go home - and sin no more!

To accuse a former Lagos State Gov of misappropriating 78 million Nair without a shred of evidence is a badge of integrity. It could have been worse. Now we can boldly say that BRF has requisite values for leadership.

xtrorse:
Refrain from spreading more lies and fabricating baseless ideology to attempt to cover up the atrocious deeds of your people!

You and I know that Yorubas and APC cried that Yorubas were marginalized in GEJ's goverment and they used every media available to champion the course during the elections.

Nobody marginalised the Yorubas under GEJ government. The Yorubas were over favoured for 8 solid years with a highly corrupt Obasanjo regime. That regime created the likes Femi Otedola, Wale Tinubu, GLO Adenoma, Jimoh Ibrahim etc, exploding the numbers of Yoruba captains of industries. 

“Karma comes after everyone eventually. You can't get away with screwing people over your whole life, I don't care who you are. What goes around comes around. That's how it works. Sooner or later the universe will serve you the revenge that you deserve.” - Jessica Brody

May God deliver you, OK. Back to the Bona fide audience: Yorubas do not worship names and money. famous (not notorious) rich people are respected. anyone who is not submerged in the miasma of primitive aggrandizement will see how ridiculously pointless it is to see Yoruba world through the wealth of Otedolas. I am not saying this to please anyone nor will I change my view on the account of virulent propaganda for or against my ethnicity, Dr. Oby Ezekwesili is a role model all Women should emulate. not least because she speaks truth-to-power. for Yoruba and Igbo haters alike, let no man trouble me for I bear the mark of the Lord!

AuntySusan:
But SW also complained about being sidelined in GEJ's admin. Why should Igbos now be the ones getting the lecture about 'appointments doesn't improve your standard of living'
If only one family life is changed with appointment, that is one less family to worry about poverty?lol
As much as OBJ's tenure didn't do much for an average Yoruba man, believe it or not, lots of Yorubas still benefitted from it(though on individual basis)

Again my opinion sir

Well then ma, maybe I am not an ideal person to debate the merits of appointment with. Yorubas who complained are the PDP stock. They mainstream Progressives even rejected speakership. We careless about anything that cannot change the prize of Garri. If your ideology does not connect with the intelligenstia of Great Ife, UI, UNILAG and the rebel Wild Wild Wild West media, you are on your own even if you were the President and son of the Soil. ObJ lost to less known Olu Falae in his (obj) ward. Falae is from Ondo state. Today Obj in the west mainstream will flog Falae in Ondo State. Obj could not enter Ife (OAU) because of idelogical uprising. Today, he will be celebrated. what made the difference 'ideology' not office. Ebenzer Babatope who should be De jure leader of Yorubas can no longer mobilize the ideological base. why? he is of the reactionary PDP base. If Ezekwesili joins PDP today with her ideological mien intact, she will be celebrated and respected in the West more than the reactionary son of the soil. Awo baptized Yorubas with activism not office. Nonetheless any office that comes as of democratic right will be ideologocally defended in the West. Ask yourself, why is Tinubu so popular without holding national office like Dimeji Bankole or Obj It is not Because of money. Harry Akande is richer by far, Buruji is heavily endowed but Tinubu knows when to promote a prince to "kinghood"as in BRF and Osinbajo. get the Machiavellian drift? It was rumoured that he wanted to change BRF in 2011 but he knew that the masses will revolt. so Tinubu swims in the direction of popular demand ideologically. I am not saying he is a saint or there are no exceptions to the general rule. But the golden rule is that you must be ideologically grounded. Osun people are sympathetic towards Aregbesola because of the ideologocal adventure of empowerment which shattered the state but. again am not debating the wisdom of his choice. the whole point is that Ideology which kept Yorubas in opposition since 1960 is more appealing than official titles. we have a saying "we listen to a child who complains of lack of food and not the one who complains of lack of meat." once the system eliminates hunger and deprivation, the rest is by the way. let those prosper who show the power to triumph.

AuntySusan:
Sir, You've made some great points but being fair to Jonathan, APC with their propaganda never saw anything good in his admin. His best of moves were seen as clueless. Even now, the new admin are doing some of the things they used against him then

Talking about 'they hate me' game. Don't you think Buhari is doing the same thing too?
So far he has cheated the Igbos out of his appointments by given them one or two out of almost 20 appointments. People have complained but he doesn't care. Even that his 97% and 5% speech didn't come out right at all in the midst of the his controversial appointments(though I want to believe I understood what he was trying to say). Now how many of his supporters on nl see anything wrong with that statement?
This research has exposed me to so many ills going on in Nigeria and I'll be lying to myself if I say Jonathan was(is) as bad as he was painted or that Buhari is as good as he's currently being painted.


I think We all see what we want to see depending on how it suits us. My opinion though

You have made valid points ma. however if you look at my post, the issue is far beyond who gets what, where and how for me - in terms of appointment. As a Yoruba, a may protest my exclusion from power. But as a human being I must not forget that I am not the only one so excluded. and that mine is a thousand times better than others. Let me tell you that there are only 109 senatorial seat a in Nigeria and there over 250 ethnic groups. in other words some ethnic groups cannot boast of a single senatorial seat! that for me is gross injustice. it may be argued that they are minorities. for that I adopt the view of Laski that; the Lion may roar to express hunger, the cat may bellow a gentle meow. we do not know the starving sound of an ant, but each is ezpressing at its utmost the same biological need. It may sound quite naive in Nigeria to argue that we should not complain of exclusion from power insofar we are not under the basis of that exclusion also denied the ends to which power is devoted. It has to be proved first that, those who are included have certain social and economic advantage over those who are excluded. Northern Nigeria has little to show for inclusion. Nothing shows that "Ibogun" of OBJ or Ikenne of Awo ever produced leaders that transformed other places. I am not making any case for the character of this two leaders here- just proving a point. with the many LGs Chairmen, Reps, comissiomers, Govs, senators, ministers of the big tribes what is the significant advantage in terms of human capital development. So AuntySusan, appointments is not truly worthy of humanitarian debate, in fact it does injustice to our education - in terms of intellectual priorities. GEJ is not as bad as his harshest critics ascert nor PMB as good as his greatest advocates sing. But that is hardly the point if we are discussing way forward in a theatre of war. It may serve some academic purposes to know exactly how good or how bad or it maybe gratifying for the fans of both leaders. But at this time of the day, 5:24 am, my joy is the voice I have added to clamour for social justice going forward. good morning.

AuntySusan:
You haven't contributed on the topic though. I can research on your concern at my leisure for curiosity sake. I'm very interested in those too

But so far, it's bn difficult for me to locate anyone that expresses deep hatred for GEJ and doesn't do same for Igbos on this forum.

What do u think about that? And if u don't belong to that class, I want to hear your opinion as well

Ma, it is one thing to hate a person and it is another thing to hate what a person stands for. Both may coincide in an individual because of prejudice which may be mutual. My observation in Nairaland is that people are hardly objective. In 2011 I was in court to defend GEJ right to contest and I led a detachment of his campaign successfully. Nobody saw him from Igbo perspective then. Some people dared the President and the nation through terror and corruption and brought the country to its kneels. GEJ response can be summarized as: they want to spoil my govt so that I as a minority will not be reelected. This was the point where majority of Igbos and Niger Deltans moved in to get GEJ reelected. Ma, when people are dying of terror, hunger and destitution and you saw it basically from "they hate me point of view" then they for God sake don't deserve to continue in their misery under you even if you deserve the privilege of leading them. For me the Chibok girls saga was the turning point. Nobody gets a second chance for doubting whether his daughter has been kidnapped or not or whether it was a prank or not. A crime of kidnapping over 200 girls was committed the mighty state apparatus could not ascertain its autheticity or enormity until some eternal 200 hours. when you compare Stella Oduah bullet proof cars to the immigration recruitment saga, Stella was a glorious saint. it was against this backdrop with its many wears and tears that the lately redeemed GEJ sought reelection. His supporters added to his electoral defeat by druming and dancing at the background of the wailings of the maimed, destitute, sick and the beareaved, this you will agree is not how to court the love and support of agonizing world.

INTROVERT:
please educate me on what this is...

just some comic relief on real life issue.

This is purely mischievous. why are some clerks always speaking in confidence. there is freedom of information act. a diligent journalist will keep vigil at refineries to check if tankers are going in empty and coming out empty. there are operational hitches no doubt but to cast a shadow of failure on the refineries on 'conditions of anonymity' is outrageous.

The writer is under an intellectual illusion of what propels Yoruba leaders. In so far we have federalism that is devoid of stiffling corruption, whatever happens to APC in future goes to no issue. I can understand the plight of essayists who discuss politics based on the elective fate of personalities, we have gone beyond that. The personalities mentioned will pass on but what they stood for will continue to animate the followers and as in 2015, there will be light at the end of each tunnel.

The writer is under an intellectual illusion of what propels Yoruba leaders. In so far we have federalism that that is devoid of stiffling corruption, whatever happens to APC in future goes to no issue. I can understand the plight of essayists who discuss politics based on the elective fate of personalities, we have gone beyond that. The personalities mentioned will pass on but what they stood for will continue to animate the followers and as in 2015, there will be light at the end of each tunnel.

in the fullness of time or is it FOOLness! it is just sad. btw ut is wrong to blame the northern elites for southern woes. souherners are no less guilty. happily, change is here!

chidiokoye444:
you sound like a sensible person and am hpy met u.please i will like you to join me in talkin some sense into our brothers on this nairaland.lets tel them to stop all this tribal hate arguements and move this great country forward.we have alot to gain from each other when we are one.stop supporting your yoruba people who finds pleasure in fighting my igbo brothers all the time and let me do the same.we are a laughing's talk in the international community cos we dont deffend each other.our leaders are using this opportunity to eat our money cos they knw that we can always deffend them just cos we come from the same tribe.God will surely judge each and every one of us for all this tribal insult we are creating on social media.this is why thd housa people cant allow an igbo man to be nigerian president cos our nigerian leaders have spoiled our mind with hatred for each other.

I am Yoruba. I admit you have made more noble sense to me than every post I have read today. Yes it is good to stand up for who you are but if you have to do this by standing on others, it is not worth it. When you stand on the word of God: "Ye are a holy nation" you can only smile at those who are ignorant of your worth notwithstanding the circumstances of your birth.

scholes0:
Now, I will take that... because I know for a fact that one is true... Igbos have excelled in the Luxury bus, long haul public transport arena, more than any other group of people in Nigeria.
see, it isn't that hard accepting the facts, when the points there are glaring.

follow peace with all men

shachris02:
Here is the Narration from Punch











This girl is just trying to make a show. Why would she constantly be showing off the 'abdominal pain'? she is trying too hard to be convincing. I think she is hiding something.

Shola said on Thursday, July 23, 2015, as her father handed her over to the lecturer, she still did not suspect anything until they got to around Maryland.









For him to start showing you places, their must have being a conversation. She must have been open to the man.





I don't know much about Unilag, but by 6.30am in my school then, security men and cleaners would be everywhere.




Notice, she said she was feeling 'drowsy' here. Would come in handy in subsequent narration.



But i thought she said the whole place was deserted?

Baruwa reportedly said she might have to opt for diploma.

Shola claimed that when they went back to his office, the lecturer kept her document on his table.



This girl has watched too much porn I swear, pick paper ni, pick pin ko. During the pushing, you did not scream, you still do not know his intention baa? Na when e wan remove your trouser you go remember say na rape. But i thought she said she was drowsy? wasn't she supposed to be sleeping?



Our correspondent asked at this point if Shola made any attempt to shout to alert anybody nearby.




Really? She is not even smart. She would have said the man covered her mouth, that would have being believing. How would he hold your neck one way and it would not allow you to scream?





The door was supposed to be locked nah. You did not rush out. He watched you unlock the door while still dressing. Why would a rape monster ever make that mistake? Does he want to be caught? Besides, this ordeal must have taken nothing less than an hour to have come to this part. You want to tell me that the place is still vacant by 7.30am in the morning. How many persons saw you crying?





Our correspondent tracked down Dr. Baruwa a day after speaking with Shola and he gave his version of the encounter.

According to him, he indeed had a sexual encounter with Shola but it was “consensual.”



I believe this part. You don't just show a muse around. They must have being in deep conversation.



You do not wake up by 4am with rape on your mind. Haba.





Crap. I think this dude lied in this part. I think there was a little persuasion on his part. But it must have arouse due to the girls flirty attitude.



if the rape was actually done with a condom, then the girls story is crap. She meant to tell us that he was holding her hands, her neck and still used his hands to put on condoms, at the same time? The man na Superman?






What i think happened is that the man in question promised shola admission during the persuasion process, but when he later called that she wouldn't be accepted, she now wanted to blackmail him with the rape case. Girls lie, ALOT!

You will be an excellent lawyer in cross-examination of prosecution witnesses. I find your argument plausible. but if I were a judge in this matter, the suspect must pay with jail term under Strict liability Rule. I can let you off if you show remorse but you must lose your job and attend counseling. on the ground that your victim is an adult. but if you bring up consent as defence, I will have you know that as a teacher you have a strict responsibility to avoid dalliance with any student under your care. it is not necessary for the girl to be s student of your school or class. once you have at least a remote influence over her, even if she is of age, it is a no go area. if she is not of age, the suspect is doubly damned!

ladyF:
U can't be serious!!!!

The lecturer deserves double punishment as a strict liability for what he did to his charge - the girl. having said that, the girl's story shows some shocking naivety. the man had shown he was a devil an hour before the deed. but the girl thought she had a long spoon. lesson: flee all appearances of evil!

I have been a change agent and I will remain one. however I must join well meaning Nigerians to call for caution.

public interest can be anything at any time so it is shocking to penalize anyone over public interest if it is not codified in a written law. Kaduna State Govt must be preapared to compensate anyone with genuine C of O. that is the law under fundamental rights and land use act. any official policy to the contrary must be applied in accordance with the overriding provisions if the constitution.

The cookie crumbles.

Now a good reason to wail. You certainly cannot compare the mutiny of PDP foot soldiers asking for the head of their Generals with the maneuver of APC young Turks - asking for a seat at the table.

laurel03:
God will give all of us long life and protect us till 2019 and above then we will be able to compare PMB wt wasted 16years of PPD in Nigeria.... I believe in Baba ... Now flat head peep will not see ds one now...

systemic discipline is already evident with gradual results.

That may not happen. the role of SGF will be strictly bureaucratic under PMB. To hold RT.Hon Amaechi down with SGF will certainly do injustice to his fighting spirit. He may be the one to take on contractors or other slippery merchants.

An ordinary guest does not leave police station on admin bail. if 'symptoms' persist for 4hrs, get a lawyer. otherwise long cold nights await you in Kirikiri

Mark4reel:
Free
What a powerful statement you just made my guy

Am glad I did. The deep calls only unto the deep.

Change is here. accountability is here.

Baba has been giving us "Changemicin" in the right doses. Full recovery is coming in the fullness of time. If there is any drug for acute paranoia give it to those that need to calm down.

symbolic gesture of : it takes a village to raise a child.

zendy:
These are the wrong questions to ask. The right question should be 'why do we have to fight in first place?' . We all used to be free people before the White came to create Nigeria. That white has man has since gone home. Why do we now have to kill our selves before we go back to how we were before the white man came?

The answer these questions is something that the so called Nigerians don't want to face up to, that Nigeria is just a "master/slave" relationship and we have been killing our selves for 55 years over who should be the master and should be the slave. As long Nigeria exists, I will never have sovereignty to administer my own affairs as an Igbo man and that is unacceptable. It is time for us to put an end to Nigeria or we prepare for another round of armed conflict and carry on killing each other.

I now see your point. the right to self determination. slavery, tribal wars, outcasts, twins killing, women repression were all present in the Free pre-colonial Nigeria. 250 ethnically seregated Niger area will transform freedom into its grimmest image. Of course, no matter the peril of the jungle a free bird is a free bird until it becomes a prey of the treacherous jungle! good luck.

Change! this is the difference between leaders who make undue profit from the agony of her citizens and leaders who make name by alleviating the agony of citizens. We are proud of the new leaders of Change!

zendy:
If I cannot stand war to fight for my own freedom then it means I am not a man. What will happen? Death? Hunger? Loss of property? I am prepared to through all those things to get my freedom as an Igbo man. But it is really strange that a Yoruba or Hausa man who has no historical connection with the Igbo is prepared to fight a war to be with Igbos, really strange

This is very noble. The little fear is that the envisaged "freedom" may not be attained after the war. Freedom is hollow and barren if it does not bring peace. From Iraq to Sudan and USSR, the glarring lesson is that: armed conflict will remain a war of peacekeeping long decades after the war is over whilst dialogue will yield progress even in the pendency of cold war. I think this is nobler, my brother. Another question is: how many souls of the weak, children, women, sick are you willing to sacrifice so as to have your idea of freedom? will the sufferings of these class of people not be a bondage far agonizing than current burden of political exclusion which you claimed has been trusted on you? What benefit has the poor urchins in Kaduna or Osun has over the ones in Ebonyi? Will it not be nobler to fight for social justice in your homeland than to wage war over the privileges of elective or appointive offices? Does it not shock you that the media has brainwashed its readers to ignore their rights and focus on the privileges of our leaders. Alas. we are now part of the treachery - albeit unwittinly!