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Are you a civil servant? If you are, can you swear on your children that you spend ONLY your salary without receiving bribe directly or indirectly?

All the politicians that have destroyed Nigeria did so with CIVIL SERVANTS actively participating in the evil. So, civil servants are just as guilty as politicians in the creation of poverty, unemployment and the underdevelopment of Nigeria which escalated the crime rate!

MrFly:
civil servants ke. Are u okay?

If this happened to a Northerner most of us in the South will scream ‘nepotism’, corruption, man-know-man!
I wish there will be a level playing ground for common people to enter the rank and file of government…. BUT THIS IS NIGERIA!

Sadly, a lot of women continue to do things that make Nigerian women earn the hate. Unfortunately too, most of the very few good women do little or nothing to callout the bad eggs amongst them, instead they excuse their bad behavior.

Yuneehk:
The hate for Nigerian women.
It's that bad that they will believe any crap put out to slander the females.

The post reeks of lie. But their hate won't let them see that.

I pray he is found soon & unarmed.
This is one too many kidnaps in that country!
Sadly, it is a dog eat dog country. They will never have the guts to kidnap politicians & civil servants who put us all in this mess. Instead, they feast on easy soft targets… COWARDS!!!

By the way, the report read that the kidnapped man is a ‘chief’? Isn’t an ‘Eze’ a monarch?.

Nigerians and their well deserved leaders like Liar Muhammed.

This liar again?! Sadly, Nigerians deserve these kinds of leaders… because they choose to do NOTHING about them.

All these p*ssy ass boys calling themselves men in Nigeria!
Look at how he looks like Toyin’s handbag!

I prefer not to cry, beg and lie to become president of Nigeria o. Some people did all this and are claiming achievement now!

Aufbauh:
Most of you guys are definitely infants.
Make me the President of Nigeria and rain all manner of insult on me, I'll prefers that to an errand boy seeking an attention.

Do you think PMB have time for such nonentity? I guess you think that the president of the most populous black nation on earth is like your 3rd class district head.

Audio War!!!

Nothing is impossible in that mad country!

Based on their useless minimum wage and salary structure, an average worker can NEVER buy the house without stealing. What kind of message are they sending? Useless government, supported by even more useless people.
Even a senior civil servant who earns like 100k cannot afford it without stealing! If such a civil servant reserves 20% of their salary (20k) to repay, it will take roughly 38years. 9M didvided by 240k annually is 37.5! Most senior civil servants have only 10-20years remaining to work. HOW WONT THEY STEAL YOUR COMMONWEALTH BLIND?!
The lower cadre are even more HOPELESS in that useless country, instead they are the ones that forgive and support their oppressors every election cycle! Useless country, mostly useless people!

This Fryo guy is the typical wicked, selfish and entitled Nigerian. Nobody is obliged to help you after you become 18years old! Even in foreign sane lands, once you clock 18yrs old, you either contribute financially to the upkeep of the house or most parents will kick their kids out!
I keep saying it, Nigerians deserve the wicked government that they have because they are mostly also wicked, selfish and entitled.

Even when a known unrepentant liar says the truth, he shall not be believed.
Provide evidence or keep your propaganda to yourself!

God bless your union!

Those are the kinds of experiences that make real men!
You win some & lose some. At the end a stud that wins almost all the time is created!
So enjoy this moment! Do not despise it.

YourWriter:
In reference to the post which I made last two weeks https://www.nairaland.com/6834344/love-im-scared
Here is the update.

I let my feelings known to her telling her how much I love her but unfortunately, the love is unrequited. She told me she's not ready for a relationship due to some personal reasons.
I so much feel heartbroken right now.
We move!

Nigerians never learn from their mistakes! They absolutely deserve these people that rule them!

God bless you & the other poster for this! Thank God there are still sane Nigerian women and men out there! I almost thought I was the only one.
God help Nigeria with the kind of people some of them have become!

Magnoliaa:
I couldn't resist quoting this! One million likes for you!

Yes, this is not a ''don't judge, nobody holy pass, her life, her choices'' case - as regards to the bolded. I love that part especially.

True. If the young man hits 'jackpot' and comes knocking on her door today, and tells her he wants to be flying her around the world (from scam money), she no go dump this motivational piece wey she post here? Would she think to share her story as a life lesson?

Nopity. 'She's' doing this because she didn't get rewarded for her efforts, not because she had a change of values and orientation or realised how fraud and fraud+ is devastating and bad. Like gutter bad. Vile bad.

I am not even an Igbo. I just think this current move is tactical ok. Violence doesn’t work ALL the time.

Musrataman:
Then stop making noise

If she is a Nigerian living in Nigeria? RUN FOR YOUR DEAR LIFE!!!
If she is white or Asian, you only need to deal with her anger.
Nigerian girls who drink & smoke do so as an extension of very shitty values. Whites & Asians do so mostly out of cultural practice. It most times does not affect their character.

govnor4551:
Hi guys..... I love this babe but I can't marry her.
She love drinking, smoking and very easy to anger.
What should I do?
Help.

Sometimes you stoop to conquer.
Dialogue with your oppressor when it looks like he has the upper hand is a smart tactical move.

You are the one who read wrong!
I said his being a criminal & association with people who use HUMAN PARTS is enough reason for her to RUN if she had any sense.
Who loves a criminal if they are not criminal minded too?
Will you date someone who you know beheads people for rituals? Will you pay for how such people will perform their evil criminal activities? That is what I read she did in some ways.
If she funded his criminal activities out of love, she should not be bothered he was now spending money with another woman!
How do you even fund efforts into a criminal activity out of love She was an active participant for Pete’s sake.
Yeah, I feel sorry for her. But people like me need to come hard on bad decision makers like her or any other man/woman, so other people like her will not think everyone will just casually condone bad behavior.

debbydams:
what u typed is Wrong, u don't jump and judge people, u read the wrong meaning to the post, in her write up, she said the guy can't do ritual, they went to an alpha no sacrifice was made, and everything they didnt work, the guy left her because she was pregnant, when the guy has money, it was from the, alpha they went too...she clearly stated she did everything for him out of love, she Neva collected a dime from him..u don't judge people from their mistakes, she was blinded by love..we are sinners because she came out to share her story for people to learn u can't start judging, if she is evil u claim she is, do u think she will share the story after 4 years, she did because she want people to learn from her past, stop judging.. some shits happened and we learn and move on..

Madam, I am not one of those men that you will bully into silence, trust me.
Thank you for promising no other response from you. I hope you have the integrity & DECENCY to do so.
Actually, your most likely sad & pretentious marriage means nothing to me too.
As I said, from your response, you have GUTTER values that encourage bad behavior.
I am not afraid to acknowledge & take responsibility for my flaws. I am not also afraid to be called out if I misbehave. It is dirty people like you who expect not to be called out.
But I will NOT succumb to the dirty, uncouth, characterless, unaccountable and obscene values that people like you have and propagate.

OdefaGirl:
Sorry..... I see where you are coming from. You've got a lot of issues to deal with in your life. I won't ask you how you ended up this way but one thing I know is that you are dealing with a lot of things because you think you are the only right person. No way, give others second chance in life.... They may even turn out to be better than your righteous, top mountain morally trained self. Heaven knows that you are not better than so many people whom you think you are... Mr. 40, give yourself some respect coz I won't dignify you with another reply.... not even to read your mention, so don't bother with your hate, hypocricy and disgusting replies.

From the BOLD quotes below in her original post,
1. The guy told her he is a scammer, she did not run.
2. He said he has a juju man that uses HUMAN PARTS she still did not run
3. Instead she decided to betray her faith to start searching for another juju man, for what purpose? To help her scammer defraud other human beings and make them cry! Those human beings scammed may NEVER recover from the scam. They may even commit suicide o.
4. She did all this so that she can benefit from it all. She wanted the criminal to marry her and they will start spending their proceeds of CRIME together.

She got hurt when she realized the scammer scammed her & he probably started spending the money from their crime with another woman.

WHO DOES THIS KIND OF THING EXCEPT EVIL PEOPLE?

She can as well do same for an armed robber for all I care.

QTE
I went directly to his place, he was down, he den open up to me that he's in interested fraud( yahoo) and nothing is dropping, he told me he came to ilorin but he was asked to bring human parts but he can't, and his neighbor is cashing out, I told him I'll help because I really love him I spoke with my neighbor if she know any juju man that's very good, she introduced me to a man. I had close to 100k in my account, we both went to the man I did a lot of prayers, ate different types of things we spend more than 50k after some weeks nothing is dropping, and I'm feeding him, my account is red already, he spoke with his friend, his friend introduced him to another juju man den we are out of cash already.
UNQTE

debbydams:
what evil are u talking about? Did u read the story well?

The truth is bitter, and she said it as it is.
Nigerians truly deserve the country as it is . Mostly rubbish people, with rubbish values!

So this dumb f*cks in government did not realize the terrorists stupidly called bandits can use satelite phones and long range walkie talkies?!!!!!!
Nigeria is DOOMED! People don't have sense in that country! Both the government and the governed are just as stupid! They deserve themselves. Next election now, the people will start killing one another to get these same rubbish politicians they have known all their lives into government. They will refuse to vote against their biases or vote fresh people, that does not help the country. Yet they expect a miracle!

You don’t know me either. So do not assume.
The fact is that the world is where it is now because there are no consequences for wrongdoing. Because you want to give advise doesn’t mean you cannot scream the bitter truth about ACTION & CONSEQUENCE for Pete’s sake. Even science says “For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction”.
I am yet to see any Scripture that says there is zero consequence for wrongdoing. If the perpetrator escapes it the kids won’t. The Supreme being may just reduce the severity because of grace.
I am in my 40s & I know having a home is not the ultimate happiness. Living a good life that recognizes that you MUST do good & not evil is more important. FYI, I am happily divorced.
Incase you are a Christian, Jesus & Apostle Paul did not have a ‘home’.
There is no way you can be a good person and you still excuse evil and wrongdoing. It is impossible! You think you are good, but you are not. People like you just make it easy for others like yourself to keep doing the evil they love to do without anyone calling them out.
I will tell you again, I will NOT conform to your GUTTER VALUES. Better look elsewhere.

OdefaGirl:
I wish you know the person you are quoting... When I read some comments here on Nairaland I shake my head because you guys just assume what is in your feeble minds.... Giving someone an advise that would better one's life or even another reader or even move on is better than criticizing one till they get depressed and give up. That is hypocricy.... She has learnt her lesson and is telling her story... so why would you prosecute her? Are you her God? Since you know so well how scammers operate, maybe you should tell your family including your soul to stop using people for rituals... Which way should I change? Having a good heart towards my fellow not minding their past or you who is actually a devil coming out to judge others? That girl can comfortably run a good home in the future while you.... who's a devil's saint that have no evil plans against your fellow human may end up having a sham of a home.

Oga, you are a WIZARD! You need deliverance ASAP!
Otherwise, go see a therapist!

Icouldhave:
I just can't help myself, right since I was a little kid. I get jealous easily.

I want everything to be just me alone, I want to be the one to have money then give it out to people.

I hate it when people gives me money, it anolds me, makes me feel less.


Please how do I contain this attitude of mine.


Ps

I don't do bad.

Neither do I do evil.

I just want to be the one running everything in my family or any place I find myself.

I want to be the number one guy


I want to be the giver always

Anyone who can pay for fetish consultation to a a herbalist for a scammer to succeed can also pay for an armed robber to buy an AK47 to kill & maim other human beings. Those are the kinds of people you want to give your 2nd chance too? Your little mind does not imagine that their VICTIMS may NEVER get 2nd chances?
I hope your hubby isnt a criminal like her ex who scammed her sha? Your marriage is still very young, so I hope you are not encouraging your kids to behave badly like you.
You better change your ways & stop finding excuses to exhibit your low morals. Stop encouraging other into shitty behavior too.
Some of us won’t stoop low to your gutter values.

OdefaGirl:
Hello, for the records and not for any other reason.... I am happily and comfortably married for up to 8 years now. I married at a very young age and need no advice from hypocrites like you to run my home. Everyone deserves a second chance including your stupid self.
If you had given the above advise to her, it would have done her good if not better... including other readers.... We always feel we know it all. Bounce please.

Dear Madam non-disgusting excuser of stupidity & bad decisions.
Sorry you missed my advise?
1. She need to not invest in a criminal next time. Hoping to get rewarded from proceeds of crime.
2. She needs to make better romantic choices & not think a criminal will ever make a good partner.
3. She needs to learn more about women sexual health & protective sex, so that she doesn’t get pregnant or even get incurable STDs next time.

I understand your pain. As they say birds of a feather…

You can also take some of my advise since your IQ is probably too ‘high’ to understand.

‘Ode fa girl’, you can also share your similar or worse bad decisions & start shopping for bimbos like you to start sympathizing with you on your inglorious stupidity.

OdefaGirl:
Are you not an Angel again?.... Why passing your judgement without a sound reasoning and second chance. You can't even give an advice that would add a change to someone's life and you think every Nairalander is down there where you are? You want to tell me that you are better than those who are giving a better advice?..... Please shift, Disgusting Hyper IQ....

I just realized you know nothing about the Yorubas and how we create unwritten history.
We use folklore, historical verbal education, songs, panegyrics, divination and mysticism to record our history.
Oduduwa is not ONLY a mythical being based on Yoruba Folklore, He was a king of Ife based on our traditional panegyrics.
For instance, there is a Sango who is seen as a mythical being in our folklore and a King Sango recorded in old Oyo empire royal recitation (which is very recent).

Just the way there are mythical stories about Bible and Quran characters, modern Jewish and Islamic archeology & history have established that some of these characters that look only mythical existed. The only academic dillema is establishing evidence on the miracles and unscientific events that happened in these Holy Books.

If you believe Oduduwa was ONLY a mythical being, my discussion with you will have to end here (because you DO NOT understand how the Yorubas preserved their history).

I respect your views, but I will appreciate if you do not conclude that Yorubas are liars. What we can do is for our intellctuals / scientists to engage in serious archeological expeditions to unearth evidence of our history and interractions as Africans. Sadly, our governments and scholars are too lazy to do this.

Until then, GOODBYE.

Truthvalue41:
1) your logics are hard to follow, there is indeed no logical link with this your claim "Colonial African map was initially even claimed to be smaller that western Europe" and with your conlusion: "The colonial maps actually mean nothing" and "Those maps are simply how dominators saw Africa and not how Africa was."

First of all, what I posted was not a colonial map, it was a precolonial map, the europeans were trade partners with africans at that stage, not "dominators". Also the map is a picture of the region at that period of time, it shows the countries which occupied that space and their borders, that is the meaning of the map !

"Yoruba culture evolved from original occupants like trhe Ugbos and the settled migrants like the descendants of Oduduwa.":

it seems someone forgot to educate you on the fact that oduduwa is a mythical creature who actually never existed...this is one problem with you yorubas, when talking about history you always feel the need to confuse fairytales with history.

2) "The Itsekiris saw how great the Bini monarchy was and they requested a king from there (possibly to avoid war or invasion). Only the Itsekiri royal blood and immigrants that followed are linked to Benin. Please read https://www.britannica.com/topic/Itsekiri[/b]"

You are telling a story which wasn't witnessed by anybody ! You can quote britanica all you want, it still remains a fairytale ! Also, the name "bini" is not the name of the people of Benin empire, their name is Edo !

3) " Jebu itself was a vassal kingdom to Benin. This is wrong. [b]This is how the Binis became historically linked to the Yorubas: https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin-historical-kingdom-West-Africa. Binis formally requested to be rulled by Yorubas. That is why until recently the corpse of Oba of Benin MUST be buried in Ife."

The people whom are writing all these trash on britanica, I wish I could have an interview with them, none of this was witnessed ! It is just a fairytale created by "yoruba" in the colonial era and spread like apropaganda and now it finds its place in britanica. But no proof of it was ever provided. Actually the first europeans who came to our region did so in the 1400's, they saw no "yoruba" and no "ife" rather they saw a great Benin empire led by the Oba of Benin, for more than 400 years the europeans had been visiting our region and found no link between Benin empire and ife village ! All this story which you are saying is a yoruba invented story trying to claim attachment to Benin.

Also no Oba of Benin has ever been buried in ife !
The only place other than Benin city where an oba of Benin has been buried is actually Calabar: Oba Ovonramwen.

Actually ife was a small settlement until 1912 when the british started urbanizing it !
Benin was an empire already in the 1400's

PLEASE STOP TELLING LIES !

As usual with the yoruba, I bring proof to substantiate my claims, whereas the yoruba waves off the proof with a non-logical explanation and then proceeds to serve the public his bunch of fairytales and quotes a paper website which favors his claims (without providing any proof), the fact he still has no proof doesn't bother him, it is all about appearances to the yoruba, he wants to play on "credibility" not actual proof.
Now how a person with a brain would think a britianica article which was written by a person still alive today would be more reliable than a precolonial map drawn hundreds of years ago by people who actually witnessed our ancestors ...this is pure yoruba logics/madness: facts and truth don't matter to yoruba, appearances are way more important to the yoruba. The yoruba don't want to prove anything, rather they want to convince you of something, this is because their claims are a bunch of lies, it is impossible to prove a lie, so the yoruba would play a game of "credibility" instead and try to convince rather than prove.

To the yarri.ba (which by the way only meant oyo until it was victim to historical revisionism), nobody in the planet ever "requested a king from the yoruba" and nobody ever will, it is only in your wildest dreams that such things happened. Your ancestors were slaves and conquered people...your attempts at grabbing Benin's glorious past because you have none of your own is just pitiful.
You "yarri.ba" are the only people on planet earth which is trying to appropriate an other peoples history. Your foundations are all based on a lie.

Very sad and unfortunate. May ALL his killers and those that know about his death be located and punished by man and God.

You are right in some areas and wrong in many others. The colonial maps actually mean nothing. Those maps were created for a pre-determined purpose. Colonial African map was initially even claimed to be smaller that western Europe. This claims have been since debunked! Those maps are simply how dominators saw Africa and not how Africa was.
https://www.one.org/us/blog/map-africa-game/
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/gallery/2012/oct/02/africa-maps-history

Please read my bolded responses to your numbered claims:

1) the yorubas themselves are unrelated, some descend from dahomians, some descend from brazilian slaves, some descend from oyos and some descend from jebu ... all these groups are unrelated. Yoruba culture evolved from original occupants like trhe Ugbos and the settled migrants like the descendants of Oduduwa. After a while some other Yorubas who were initially taken as slaves but refused to lose their identity (UNLIKE MOST OTHER SLAVES) decided to return to their anscestral land after slavery ended
2) The only thing which is actually proven is that Itsikeri were part of Benin Kingdom/Empire which makes them Edo people, not "yoruba" nor "jebu". I agree with this claim to an extent. The original Itsekiris were not Yorubas OR Binis. The Itsekiris saw how great the Bini monarchy was and they requested a king from there (possibly to avoid war or invasion). Only the Itsekiri royal blood and immigrants that followed are linked to Benin. Please read https://www.britannica.com/topic/Itsekiri
Also, the returned slaves to Lagos were original Yorubas who refused lose their identities and instead influenced their captors culturally. Remnants of these slave descendants still remain in Brazil, Cuba and USA (especially New Orleans).
3) Jebu itself was a vassal kingdom to Benin. This is wrong. This is how the Binis became historically linked to the Yorubas: https://www.britannica.com/place/Benin-historical-kingdom-West-Africa. Binis formally requested to be rulled by Yorubas. That is why until recently the corpse of Oba of Benin MUST be buried in Ife.

Therefore, the link the Itsekiris have to Yorubas is an indirect one. They adopted a lot of Yoruba words and culture via their deep contact with the Binis. The Binis on the other hand have a more direct link to the Yorubas.

Truthvalue41:
When will you guys stop spreading fake history ? Is this your idea of "konquest" ? Just repeating a bunch of lies on several pages ?
African history is a laughing stock because of people like you and I only pity the gullible and uneducated fools who get duped by you.
None of what you said has any evidence. And this new line of claiming Itsikeri are jebu people ...yoruba need to stop telling lies, you guys don't fight on battle fields, instead you just lie all day and call that your victory.

1) the yorubas themselves are unrelated, some descend from dahomians, some descend from brazilian slaves, some descend from oyos and some descend from jebu ... all these groups are unrelated.
2) The only thing which is actually proven is that Itsikeri were part of Benin Kingdom/Empire which makes them Edo people, not "yoruba" nor "jebu".
3) Jebu itself was a vassal kingdom to Benin.

I wish one day yoruba would have any self esteem to stop telling lies.

Below is an actual precolonial map of west africa, not the trash which you keep posting as map.