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blueAgent:
I laugh. U don't even finish the Bible chapter and you jumped into conclusion.


Romans 7-8
The Law and Sin
7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful?
Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have
known what sin was had it not been for the law.
For I would not have known what coveting really
was if the law had not said, “You shall not
covet.”[ b] 8 But sin, seizing the opportunity
afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting. For apart from the law, sin
was dead.

Galatians 3:19 Why then the law? It was added
because of transgressions, until the offspring would
come to whom the promise had been made; and it was ordained through angels by a mediator.3:24 Therefore the law was our tutor until Christ came, so that we might be justified by faith. 3:25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer subject to a tutor.

The law came to tel u what sin is so that we will be under wrath, it was our tutor, we are nt under it anymor

KINGinVAHALA:
What do u know?
1. same oshio dat is now paying N25,000 as minimum wage, not even federal govenment nor obiano or ambode re paying such.
2. same oshio that just completed the re-construction of mission road, upto upper mission junction at aduwawa, fully demacated with drainages, walkway, traffic lights, and presently enacting street lights.
3. same oshio that is presently re-constructing 2nd each circular road, fully demacated, drainages, walkway and a massive 30ft underground drainage at sakponba junction.
4. same oshio that is presently constructing an ultra modern secondary school at new era college, upper mission. when completed, new era would be turned to a boarding school.
5. same oshio that is presently re-constructing upper part of siluko rd.
6. same oshio that would soon commission the newly constructed central hospital, sapele rd, benin city.
ETC..
What do u know?

Oshio is working.

blueAgent:
This is the full explanation of your Bible verse.

The ministration of death [the Ten
Commandments points out sin; Romans 7:7, and
sin points to death; Romans 6:23] on stone was
Glorious and was NOT to be done away. It was the
glory on the face of Moses that was done away.
The King James Version is a little unclear in its
translation on this point. Observe just a few of
many translations below which are clearer.

I asked u just one question please answer.
what is the ministry of death carved in stone?
is it not the 10 commandments?
this is to see if u are even sincere

blueAgent:
Do you know that the ten commandments were in existence .even before Adam and Eve sinned or before Abraham was born.

www.nairaland.com/3038010/ten-commandements-preceded-moses

7 Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? 9 For if there was glory in hthe ministry of condemnation, ithe ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. 10 Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of
the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much
more will what is permanent have glory.

I asked u just one question please answer.

what is the ministry of death carved in stone? is it not the 10 commandments?

this is to see if u are even sincere

its the Lefebvre sect, a Bishop WS unhappy with the last church council and broke off his own sect in defiance, it's a schism. I came across them some years ago, they will tell u a half lie 99 half truth and a half truth. they deceive the ignorant.

btoks:
I believe the bible contains the word of God as determined by the church.

I'd like to know where it was foretold that the Catholic Church will massacre millions of people and when this event supposedly occurred.

Napoleon in the Bible? !!

which church determined which books were confirmed as part of d bible?

blueAgent:
Don't confuse yourself. that verse is not reffering to the ten commandments .the law in that verse talks about that of the cremonial laws and Sacrificial laws which were shadows of things to come. and were nailed to the cross by the death of Jesus. they were added as a temporary means for the cleansing and purification of Sinners Colossians 2:17



But the ten commandements of God are eternal. they are God's moral laws. is like this.every country or organization has its set of laws and code of conduct. that also the function of the ten commandments.
God's judgement of Man is based on those Laws. they are God's standand.

Remember the first 4 laws of the commandments are laws about man's responsibility to God .Exdous20:1
So if the law, was done away with. are you now suggesting that we can now bow to other gods,use the name of God in vain,as well as commit murder,adultery,Fornications.
Since it means we are no long under the law.

Remember when John was shown vision of the end in the book of Revelation. He saw the
Ark of Covenants containing the Ten commandments. the old and new covenants
have an ark of the covenant, see Hebrews 9:4 and seen opened in the apocalypse on judgment day containing all of the Ten Commandments
(Revelation 11:18,19; 1.King8:9) and we are all to be judged by these Ten (James 2:8-1 )

Even David said this about God's law.
Psalm 119:98
Your commandments make me wiser than my
enemies, For they are ever mine.

Psalm 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the
soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Psalm 119:97
MEM. O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all day long.

thank God u know many laws in the old testament are no longer in force. now read this passage
2cor 3:7-11


Now if the ministry that brought death, which
was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory,
so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the
face of Moses because of its glory, transitory
though it was, will not the ministry of the Spirit
be even more glorious? If the ministry that
brought condemnation was glorious, how much
more glorious is the ministry that brings
righteousness! For what was glorious has no
glory now in comparison with the surpassing
glory. And if what was transitory came with
glory, how much greater is the glory of that which
lasts!



what is d ministry of death? which law is written in stone? is it not the 10 commandments?

DoctorAlien:
So, what do you have to say about the "when the ark was a preparing" part?

what do u not understan?

blueAgent:
True. Jesus himself confirmed it .

Matthew 5:17-20King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law,
or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Apostles James also spoke about the Law.

1 John >Chapter 3 > Verse 4
King James Version
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also
the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


James > Chapter 2 > Verse 10
King James Bible
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all .

Paul also wrote about the Holiness of God's law.
Galatians 3:15-25

God's Law is Holy
7What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God
forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the
law: for I had not known lust, except the law
had said, Thou shalt not covet. 8But sin, taking
occasion by the commandment, wrought in me
all manner of concupiscence. For without the
law sin was dead. 9For I was alive without the
law once: but when the commandment came,
sin revived, and I died. 10And the
commandment, which was ordained to life, I
found to be unto death. 11For sin, taking
occasion by the commandment, deceived me,
and by it slew me. 12Wherefore the law is holy and the commandment holy, and just, and good.








Billions of people are decieved. including great men of God. people don't read the Bible on their own and allow all parts of the Bible to interpret itself. they depend on others to do the interpretation.

Galatians 3:19 Why then the law? It was added
because of transgressions, until the offspring would
come to whom the promise had been made; and it
was ordained through angels by a
mediator.3:24
Therefore the law was our tutor until
Christ came, so that we might be justified by faith.
3:25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer
subject to a tutor.

learn to read ur bible,we are not under that law anymore

DoctorAlien:
My people perish for lack of knowledge indeed.

So tell me, what does this mean?

"...Only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them, and according to all that my servant Moses commanded them" 2 Kngs 21:8

we are no longer under that law. that is what the Bible says that law was transistory. it is the ministry of death Read ur Bible

blueAgent:
Applying your logic to this Bible verses.

Exodus 20:12King James Version (KJV).

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy
days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

Deuteronomy 5:16New King James
Version (NKJV).

‘Honor your father and your mother, as the
Lord your God has commanded you, that your
days may be long, and that it may be well with
you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

Exodus 7:1King James Version (KJV).

And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have
made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy
brother shall be thy prophet.

Applying your Logic .means we also need to pray to our parents. becos this Bible verses also talks about us honouring our parents.
So the question is , why are you not praying to your parents.


The second verse Exdous7:1
God told Moses that he has made him a god unto Pharaoh. So why don't you Catholic people also ,pray to Moses who God made a god ,against Pharaoh

pray simply mean to request, I pray to my parents
Catholics pray to both Moses and Abraham

DoctorAlien:
My people perish for lack of knowledge indeed.

So tell me, what does this mean?

"...Only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them, and according to all that my servant Moses commanded them" 2 Kngs 21:8

we are no longer under that law. that is what the Bible says that law was transistory. it is the ministry of death Read ur Bible

blueAgent:
Applying your logic to this Bible verses.

Exodus 20:12King James Version (KJV).

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy
days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

Deuteronomy 5:16New King James
Version (NKJV).

‘Honor your father and your mother, as the
Lord your God has commanded you, that your
days may be long, and that it may be well with
you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

Exodus 7:1King James Version (KJV).

And the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have
made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy
brother shall be thy prophet.

Applying your Logic .means we also need to pray to our parents. becos this Bible verses also talks about us honouring our parents.
So the question is , why are you not praying to your parents.


The second verse Exdous7:1
God told Moses that he has made him a god unto Pharaoh. So why don't you Catholic people also ,pray to Moses who God made a god ,against Pharaoh

pray simply mean to request, I pray to my parents
Catholics pray to both Moses and Abraham

MrTruth4real:
At least, it will help us a little, if the oil marketers are getting forex from black market and CBN together, rather than getting from black market alone, even black market can provide enough forex for all fuel importers. The govt just need to devalue our naira.

d black market will never be the same with the official price

Syncan:
On the issue of translate, having read that link, I will simply post the response as contained therein.



On the matter of Promise, It's very clear, and that disproves your claim that they were in the heavenly kingdom before Jesus came. The promise as stated in that verse is the heavenly kingdom, and they never went there, that's why scripture says "they didn't receive the promise". Heb.11:39

they later received their rewards after Jesus death.

MrTruth4real:
I tink is better if they devalue the naira and make forex available for importers, Rather than tell them to go and look for forex elsewhere (black market). The 145pl was derive from 280naira to the dollar, and parallel rate is about 340, so if these importers so go to black market to get dollars, we should be expecting fuel at about 200pl. The govt have no choice than to devalue and remove subsidy too.

even if we devalue it we still won't have enough forex. devaluation does not. help us

MrTruth4real:
The real problem is unavailability of forex to import PMS, what the govt should do is devalue the naira, and make forex available until the modular refineries and dangote refinery is completed, then we can stop importing fuel.

d CBN cannot provide forex for them, we don't have enough
.

Equalizer:
Not Catholic Bishops then..

Not a catholic bishop but his vestment is very similar to dat of a cc bishop

DoctorAlien:
What is the mosaic law?

613+10 LAW FOUND IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.

DoctorAlien:
Read verse 19 and 20 of 1 Pet. 3.
Tell me what you think.

i alreadY read and even xplained it to u

DoctorAlien:
I thought you said fire purifies people in purgatory? Is the merits of Jesus fire?

IS GOD NOT A CONSUMING FIRE? DID HE NOT REVEAL HIMSELF SEVERALLY IN D FORM OF FIRE?

DoctorAlien:
It is clear from that passage that those people were on earth, and that Christ through the Holy Spirit was speaking to them in Noah's preachings to repent, but they refused: their spirits were in the prison of sin. They were therefore destroyed by the flood.

NO

d pasage said dat Jesus died in d flesh and his spirit was quickened, he went to preach to d spirits in prison since d time of noah, he then resurreted and ascended. wu taught u d funy tin u wrote above?

DoctorAlien:
How can we love GOD with all our hearts?

I will allow u figure dat out by urself.

DoctorAlien:
Prove to me from the Bible that Mary is in Heaven.

SORRY, this does not relate to the topic, open another thread and i'll b happy to oblige.

DoctorAlien:
If somebody goes from purgatory to Heaven, who saved him?

God saved him by applying d merits of Jesus to purify him.

DoctorAlien:
Joey150, you said purgatory takes place before Heaven, but the Bible tells us what will take place before Heaven:

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Thess. 4:16-17

Where is purgatory in the picture?

DAT IS WAT HAPPEN AT THE END OF TIME, the bible tells us, 'it is appointd unto man to die once and after dat judgement', 1 cor 3:15 tells us what happens at judgement, some wil go straight to heaven, other will suffer loss but wil stil reach heaven as though by fire, other wil go to hell.

d pasage u quoted is abt d end of time and d 2nd coming, we are talking abt d immediate judgement after death.

this shows u dont even understand wat u are condemning.

DoctorAlien:
LOL. Are tryna force me under the law of Moses?

I said I'm under the law of GOD.

U ARE THE ONE SHOUTING SABBAT, SABBAT, even after d apostle paul say a new testament christian is free from d observance of days, d fact u disagree with paul and still shout sabbat means u are stil under d mosaic law.

DoctorAlien:
When did Mary ascend to Heaven?

Prove to me from the Bible that Mary is in Heaven.

Is she in hell? What is ur arguement and how does it relate to d topic

Equalizer:
That's not a catholic bishop vestments... You are right with your analysis on the IHS theory but Catholic bishops don't put on such chasuble..

That is not a chasubule it is a cope, bishops use it in high mass and many other liturgical function.

DoctorAlien:
Joey150 and Syncan and Ubenedictus, when does purgatory take place? Prove with the Bible.

AFter d individual judgement, syncan already gave u d pasage 1 cor 3:13-15

9jatatafo:
PMB said he has NEVER heard of the word PADDED BUDGET!!!!! His attention was drawn to it by the National Assembly and he wasn't even aware. It was when the news media wrote and spoke about it that was when PMB knees what padded budget was.

Then he made sure it was corrected before he passed it, while jona admited he signed a padded budget.
he knew it was padded and yet signed it.

DoctorAlien:
Can you please tell me what GOD's moral law is? State it.

A sumary goes thus
'u shall love d Lord ur God with all ur heart, all ur soul and all ur strength and ur neighbour as ur self.