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Syncan:
I have had a fair share of religious discuss and arguments on this forum, so I am not so in need of a discuss to jump into argument with just any one, especially one who tells brazen lies. Why should I be arguing with someone who claims there was a Pope Constantine that introduced cross to Christianity. Stop spreading falsehood.

Did i just read pope constantine? that is funny.

I know the catholic church discourages keeping a corpse for long before burial but the story above is peculiar to ur parish.

ichuka:
The Cross Governs everything related to the new Life and the house of God.
Without the Cross God will stil be an imaginary being,without it there's no new life.christainity derives it power from the Cross.
Show me a cursed/condemned man and I will show you an uncrucified fool.

amen

PastorAIO:
What exactly is the difference between 'Sanction' and 'Allow'?

TO sanction is to authoritatively approve, to allow is simplier, to let it be. Example, God sanctions my existence and allows my faults.

The problem is not repetition, the problem is 'vain' repetition, there are several repetitions in the bible, the book of psalm have prayers dat involve repetition, d torah comands d jews to repeat the schema o israel...etc. the problem is when it become vain, when u becomes repetition for d sake of repetition, a prayer that isnt meant, isnt from d heart, or even out of pride, that is a vain prayer and we must avoid such.

PastorAIO:
I wouldn't expect anything more serious, or less serious (if possible) than your initial post which that is a response to.



Isn't that the implication of having an ultimate Authority. An ultimate authority cannot be thwarted. As they say about the boss in some companies, 'The buck stops here'.

Oga pata pata bears the full weight of the responsibilities. Especially if the oga pata pata is said to be omnipotent.

If God is all powerful then nothing happens that is not sanctioned by him.

he may either sanction it or allow it.

Truth234:
1) Devaluing would not pushed black market rate up but normalize it. It means instead of majority of us buying it at speculators' price we will be buying at official rate or something closer.

2) By fixing naira at 197 -199, we are losing money because the major means from which we generate foreign reserves is not fixed and has fell more than 70% so far, but we refused to make realistic adjustment to contain such changes. Saudi Arabia is enjoying the Riyal fixed because her foreign reserves is huge, $744,440,558,276 and can cover over $200 billion deficit created by the current oil glut.

3) Not for their own interest but a more conducive working environment.

Note: I am not favouring devaluation at this stage because of current oil price appreciation, but forex policy need to be adjusted to accommodate these foreign companies, if not we will lose jobs and unemployment rate will surge with scaring inflation rate. Our Foreign Direct Investment that is nosediving, will plunge even more, so what is the essence of a policy that can't create jobs, yet losing the ones already created.

if all forex restriction are removed the country will run out of forex

magzey:
ABACHA Was a Muslim so issue of repentance is senceless.

weldone for propagating a photoshop

brojoshua:
And how many of us know that those who are back ( that is wicked and evil) and wear black are far better than those who are evil but cover their own evil and wickedness with white clothing, pretending to be who they are not and adding hypocrisy to their sins?

and u just looked at their souls annd came to that conclusion right?

brojoshua:
The one in black represents Satan and he doesn't deny it but declares it openly and the one in white also represents or is also of Satan but covers his true identity with white garment and pretending and deceiving the people to be a person and leader of the people of God. So the one in white is more wicked than the one in black because he adds hypocrisy to his sins and pretending to be of the God in whom he has no portion and he shall receive greater punishment in the Day.
And let all who are still in his shoes and indeed all sinners repent from their wicked ways which includes hypocrisy and believe in Christ Jesus the Son of God and the Saviour of the world and God will save their souls. Let all sinners whether in black or white garment believe in Christ and let them who believe repent and God will save them because God can not be deceived even by white garment for He looks at the hearts and not the outward.

the supreme judge of mens souls welldone, you have condemn the pope for hypocrisy even though im sure u hardly know himm.

stlaibrowne:
Sorry miss are you thinking at all? It seems you know everything about the pope visitation, how about you tell us what abacha and the enterprepope were discussing?
Religion is the opium of the masses, sister I don't hate you and I forgive you for the foolish statement I believe you made by mistake. But let me enlighten you a bit the head of state, is in the bourgeois class and the pope or any religion establishment are working for the bourgeois class using after life or hope of better life propaganda to prevent the masses from fighting back. So miss you need to read and investigate more. Cheers

u didnt do ur research too and that is a bit silly, abacha wasnt catholic the pope had no reason to perpetuate him in office, if anything, the pope didnt the exact opposite by telling him to stop his unjust suppressions and detention.

Now who didnt do his homework?

delishpot:
Well, the Catholic church NEVER punishes her priests NO MATER WHAT. Even if they rspe, kill and eat a new born baby. They will Never be punished.

there was a time d cath church had prisons, then priest were certainly punished, those nolonger exist, wat they have a canonical penalties like interdicts, deposition and excommunication, those are d punishment and priest receive then till date.

Joagbaje:
The Levites were ministers in the sanctuary , and in every generation there will always be ministers of God.

the levite are actually d sons of levi, it is a tribe in isreal.

InZA:
A very thin line really, I agree with you, maybe that's why there are just a handful of Christian churches that preach about them, their existence and their place in the body of Christ.

Thank you for the expository piece

sounds like catholic teaching 2 me.

OLADD:
The last adminstration started the renegotiation process after the initial cancelation. Can't you people learn?

and buhari is completing the renegotiation and kickstarting the previous cancelled projects.

TheRector:
Hmmm. The Pope is playing politics and diplomacy with Biblical truth. Did he read these scriptures before arriving at his new found truth or are these part of the scriptures now obsolete?
# homosexuality- 1Cor 6: 9,10
# Divorce -Malachi 2:16, Matt 19:9, Mark 10:11
# Cohabitation - 1Cor 7:9

The Church is meant to defend the principles and traditions of the Bible not circumvent it with socalled modern realities. To me the Church and The Pope has failed woefully.

what d pope wrote agrees with what u said above, pls read d article again.

shumax:
Yes, tha catholic church does not fight culture of people but rejects any culture that goes against teaching of Christ as the church understands it, and for your information in catholic marriage a Father doesn't hand his daughter over, thats a protestant ideology, in the catholic church the girl gives herself freely to her husband and vice versa. Know Your catechism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

amen

Honourchuks:
I think we need some clarifications here, does His Holiness mean cohabitation after payment of dowry/bride price or cohabitation when cohabitants have not taken any step towards marriage?

Do u want to make steps without completing dem.

GuyfawkesAB:
So how does what Christ said about Peter translate to the title of Pope or their infallibility? Or did Christ make an everlasting covenant with him as Pope and all that would lead after him? Did Christ suggest in anyway that He and other leaders after him will be regarded as "not able to commit sin"? Or are all these Popes related to Peter?

You are trying hard to defend matters that you only know little about. The Catholic Church is deeply steeped in Mysticism, Occultism and secrecy. All you see in their ceremonies and cathedrals are just a grand cover which easily sells to,you the laity

Where did u hear dat the pope cant sin? dat is not a catholic teaching.

somehowpenis:
I am a Catholic but this makes me see this Pope as weak, why can't he be firm and say No to things? He easily succumbs to pressure.

What presure did he sucumb to? everytin there is in line with the bible and d church. hw do u wish to convert pipo, by shouting fire and brimestone or by gently guiding dem?

waice6571:
Any reference from the Bible to justify his standing on the said issues or from koran?

The laws of the Lord are perfect........

There is bible ref, the stuff the pope released is long, u can google it and it is full of bible ref, d news just did a little summary.

vedaxcool:
interfering how now? So the govt giving permit before a church can be built isn't interference right? or a man parking his car front of mosques or church and blast preaching of his religion will be okay right? Nigerian constitution is not hyperbolic.

Separation of state, the state doesnt have d power to liscence preachers when d constitution says anyone has the right preach

this one get k leg

vedaxcool:
I am sorry to say they don't, if not no single coherent rebuttal of the law just rabble rousing.

Interfering in religious practice is tantamount to
abusing the constitutional right of freedom of
association and religion. "38. (1) Every person shall be entitled
to freedom of thought, conscience and
religion, including freedom to change
his religion or belief, and freedom
(either alone or in community with
others, and in public or in private) to manifest and propagate his religion or
belief in worship, teaching, practice and
observance".

Mother Mary Angelica, who started the Eternal Word
Television Network (EWTN) in a monastery garage,
died at her rural monastery in the state of Alabama. Born Rita Rizzo to a poor family in Ohio, she became
known to millions of viewers of her show as Mother
Angelica. Her health had been declining since she suffered a
stroke in 2001. Alabama Governor Robert Bentley was among
those to pay tribute. "She left an indelible mark on Alabama, the Catholic
Church and the world as a whole,'' he said. Pope's reforms polarise the Vatican How many Catholics are there in the world? EWTN's chairman Michael Warsaw said Mother
Angelica would always personify the network. "In the face of sickness and long-suffering trials,
Mother's example of joy and prayerful
perseverance exemplified the Franciscan spirit she
held so dear," he said. Mother Angelica became a nun in Cleveland aged
21 and founded a new monastery near
Birmingham in Alabama in 1962. She launched EWTN after refusing to continue
broadcasting from a secular TV station that she said
was also broadcasting blasphemous films, the Catholic News Agency reported. Although ill health prevented her from appearing
on her "Mother Angelica Live" show towards the
end of her life, old episodes continued to be
broadcast. EWTN claims to be the world's biggest religious
media network. It has 11 channels reaching more
than 250m homes in 145 countries. It also operates
radio stations and newspapers. The network, which has been at times been
criticised by both liberal and conservative Catholics,
says it tries to be loyal to the Vatican and reports
extensively on the Pope's statements and trips

linusbnn:
Please read again nd understand it very well. The budget has been passed,what is remaining is the report (so to say) so Buhari refused to sign it pending the report. Nass is saying the president can move on to sign the budget pending when the report will be available because the report will not affect the alredy passed budget.

it is not d report they are waiting for. The issue is the details, how much was budgeted for what?

erekoshe:
U made a mistake, admit it and move on. The defence is unecessary. Dont be childish, everybody make mistakes, an adult acknowledge and take corrections.. The road is most likely not even Edo, my comment was based on the error, not the road

Oshiomole would have been the best Edo governor ever, but virtue of his recent outburst and lifestyle, he's the second worse... Only Igbinedion surpasses him.

his is the post where u talked about livestyle, all the things i addressed were from ur post.

erekoshe:
You answered when I wasn't talking to you, does that not indicate you took over the conversation from where it is?? I apologize for taking it that u defend the other user to a point u agreed with his ascertions. You keep shouting abt lifestyle? Where did I attack oshiomole's lifestyle? I'm done arguing with u. I have no business with Oshiomole's lifestyle.. FYI, ive known him since his days at Textiles Kaduna, ive met his mother at Iyamho, gone to his house at Maitama, you have no clue abt his lifestyle and its none of my business really.

You are not privy to the nature of Edo debt, your concern is abt the amount. Honestly, what's your point? That I complained abt Oshiomoles lifestyle or abt Edo's debt??

my dear this is a public forum, i can comment on any post i wish, that is what i did. Pdp devalued edo and took it backwards and the present government hass tried, that was the point i made initially.

On the issue of lifestyle please read yyour previous posts you said that osho utterance and his lifestyle spoilt his government, i disagreed with both points.

U brought up the issue of edo debt but you forgot that all states in nigeria are debtor and many are not credit wortthy while others cant even pay workers, edo state debt is not that bad, it is much better than most, that means osho has been disciplined financially and has managed his debt well..

Beckino:
As for number 2, your defense is still wrong. The only person that is supposed to be recognised as a channel between God and man is no other person than 'Jesus Christ' himself. Yes it's true that Mary was the mother of Jesus, she already has that honour but not the honour of being a channel between God and man. Jesus said this Himself and that's why we pray 'in the name of Jesus'. If you still insist, i'll like to see a biblical proof of your statement.

do u knowww anyone wwho doesnt pray in Jesus name.

erekoshe:
Wtf is your point actually?? Nobody cares if he's a good father or otherwise, his stewardship in the state is what is called to question, the kind of superiority Edo claim is the bane of the state. U lied in ur first post, for you to admit the error you're here posting gibberish.. What's your point really? That pdp ruled Nigeria for 16yrs, foes that mean they rule Edo for 16years? Just grow up dude and argue martuedly. Igbinedion is equally a good father and husband, oahiomole did better than him and would have written his name in gold, only that he messed up in his second term, then start speaking and attacking everyone.. Do you even know the debt profile of Edo? Which Edo man is speaking up?

u dont look at usernames before yyou talk that is your mistake. I am not the person who said pdp ruled for 16yyrs, i am not stupid go back and check the username of the person who made the comment.

You were the person complaining about another man lifestyle as if at concerns you that is why i responded that all i know is dat he is a responsible father and husband.

Osho didnt attack everyone, he isnt stupid to attack every body, he has chosen those he believes are either incompetent, corrupt or aid corruption, he has articulated his points, his outburst usually have gud reason.

Lastly edo debt is actually one of the better ones in nigeria, many state cant even request for credit becos of previous debt others are owing several months, oshomole is not in any of those categories he has managed his debtt well.

U are the one wwho made a mistake and didnt look at mmy username before accusing me for something i didnt write. Now can you be mature and accept you made a mistake?

anigbajumo:
Is it the only Christian that is affected by the use of Loudspeaker even if u are traditional worshipper u are also affected, why crying foul??

The governor is also asking the lawmakers to enact the law that will stop the playing or circulating of “all cassettes, CDs, flash drives or any other communication gadgets containing religious recordings from accredited preachers other than inside one’s house, porch, Church, Mosques and other designated place of worship.”

Same way yer bible support preaching the gospel is the same in our holy Quran.

If u have any valid argument go to court nd let see the outcome is el rufai is wrong??

WHAT ABOUT PLAYING THEM IN MY CAR?

LFJ:
His message is clear, preach and worship should be in your mosques and churches. Your religion is your personal property, practising it should not disturb others.

Religion must also be practiced in d community, it isnt a doll u hide in a box.