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DoctorAlien:
Are those verses not in clear contrast to the purgatory teaching that we have a part to play in our sanctification?

so u dont need to 'work out ur salvation with fear and trembling'? if a person doesnt cooperate and accept the grace of God he cant be saved. Jesus said 'i stand at the door of ur heart and knock' but we are d ones who must open it frm inside.

God who created us without our consent does not save us without our cooperation.
We all have a role to play, anyone who disagrees make God a liar.

DoctorAlien:
If you cannot prove to me that the whole Bible is in sync with the purgatory teaching, then it is a lie.

what pasages disagree with purgatory?

DoctorAlien:
You mean for more than a millenium, the catholic church was busy persecuting the saints of GOD? Killing the Waldensians and the Albigenses who stood for Scriptural truth? Hunting down and killing and maiming anyone that dared oppose their abominable teachings? Killing untold millions by the fire of inquisiton and trying to remove the light of GOD's word from the people?

Nevertheless, the light of GOD's word can never be hidden.

So u agree with the albigensis that d old testament was written by d devil and dat he created ur body, Do u perform consolametum with them?

The next time u identify wit heretics try to read abt them

blueAgent:
See God's instruction was clear like daylight.
Their is no negotiation with God. his word is final. Did you even do the research i asked you to do?
How can you pray to mary and say you are honouring her. why don't you honour your biological mother by praying to her?
When Jesus taught his people how to pray he never mentioned mary. Jesus said I am the truth and the life no one comes to my father .except through me. so how did mary get involued.

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The best place to hide a LIE is
between two TRUTHS!

U said anyone who gives honor to anyone but God will burn, that means every child that respected their parents will go to hell mayb even ur Jesus is in hell because he respected him mom.
u see how illogical ur position is?

analice107:
Ube, when it was written is not in question. My query is that, why is there no reference? It didn't reference any book of the Bible, and no Bible Book referenced it. No prophecy, no revelation. Its all about Maccabeus's War exploits. I have it here.
Now that you Mention Daniel, Do you know that the Version of that book of Daniel is different from the one in the Bible?
e.g, The reason Daniel was thrown into the Lions Den, is a different reason all together there.
In the Bible Daniel stayed just a night in the Lions Den, in this your book, Daniel spent 5 days in the Den, and Jews coming all the way from Jerusalem at night to sneak food to him in the Den.
Do you know that their Esther is a totally different Esther from the Bible's Esther?
My dear, the books has no iota of revelations in them.

Between the compiler of the book and the people who deleted things from it who do u think have d correct version.

Allwility:
Then we upgrade the existing refineries or build small modular refineries in different states. We have the money and with public private partnerships, we can do it sir.

Did u forget nigeria is broke and cant even finance its own budget? our only hope is d private sector.

DoctorAlien:
Who said that the Sabbath of GOD has been abolished?

Show me a single place in the Bible that explicitly says the Holy Sabbath of GOD has been abolished.

OH, i can do better, i can give u a pasage that says the the entire mosaic law is obsolate, wat do u say?

DoctorAlien:
If the Bible is not to be taught in the church of GOD, what is to be taught? The commandments of men? The same reason Jesus rebuked the Pharisees?

"All scripture is given by the inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" 2 Tim 3:16.

The commandments and catechisms of men are not profitable for doctrine, neither are they profitable for instruction in righteousness.

"Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of GOD." Matt. 4:4
It did not say "out of the mouth of the pope" or "out of the mouth of man."

Read your Bible and practise only your Bible, for your own good!

I never said d bible shouldnt be taught, i said the bible doesnt claim to be d only source of doctrine.

analice107:
Joey, Heaven is waiting, there are souls to win, sitting down here arguing which book should or shdnt be in the Bible is totally inconsequential to me at this juncture. Let me try and read all these one first, understand them, practice them and pass them on. I think that's more important to me right now.
Goodluck.

So u dont care that somebody removed books from the bible? u are happy with a mutilated bible?

you have been shouting about bible to catholics since morning and yet u dont care that the bible you have is not the complete bible canonise in d 4th century.

i dont think u care about the truth all u care about is throwing jabs at catholics

analice107:
Like i said, when you have made up your mind to disobey, you come up with excuses. My dear, go ahead, its your headache.
Listen, I have this Bible here to live by and obey what it says, and am trying to, falling and rising every now and then.
The one i have here, i have not been able to obey all, now you are fighting to bring in more books that have no spiritual relevance or Prophecies. If i can but live by Just the Sermon on the mount, i will be on my way to heaven. You, go ahead and gather those other books.
Maccabees, 1&2
Judith
Tobit
Wisdom
Sirach
Songs of Songs
Esther
Daniel
You go ahead and include these books, for me, i have read them and found them of no relevance, but from "Sirach" Which is more or less like Proverbs.
My hands are full already with the Bible.
Goodluck.

So u think it is ok for people to delete books from the bible simply because they dont like them and cant understand them? dat is what u have been defending.

Okeycima:
I thought the established exchange price for dollars is 199,so which one be 285?,una don reset am or do CBN not existing?

There is no forex in d CBN, that means the marketers has use the interbank rates.

Allwility:

From the minister's comment one can infer that subsidy was not removed and the government has unofficially devalued the naira to N285.
What stops this 'change' government from repairing the refineries and using trucks to distribute the products nationwide?

the refineries even when working optimally can not satify d nigerian demand.

Syncan:
Hahaha, for two thousand years, Catholics spread the good news, won souls for Christ, from atheists and Pagans of different nations including your fore fathers. They laid their lives for it, they were eating by wild beasts, crucified, drowned, burnt, yet they preached on Christ crucified. They Collected, selected and canonized a list of books into one book, to help them propagate this Christianity. Whoever you call your champion in whatever supposed Christianity you practice, learned about Christ from the Catholic Church.

amen

analice107:
Maccabees are books written by a man called Maccabeus about 100BC. There are actually two. like Ist and 2nd. But they have no links with the characters or prohecies of the Bible. The Old Testament books didn't referenced them and vise versa.
It you read the regular Bible, you'd notice a sync between them. Like an invisible line stringing them together, but not with this Maccabeus books. He wasn't a prophet, he wasn't a priest, not shepherd, noting.
I really don't know.

do u know Bible scholars agree that Maccabees and Daniel were written about the same time? rid it and see what it fulfils

Syncan:
The washing effect of the blood of the lamb is felt, even by the "spirits in prison". 1Pet.3:19

Amen

same to u

johnw74:
I came to this thread to show that Mary is not the queen of heaven
I have done that

If you wan't to talk about churches someone might want to talk to you about that.
I will again tell you this much though, the true church is not the rcc which teaches that Mary is the queen of heaven
the title of a false prophetess.

hehehe u cant ansa abi?

johnw74:
You don't understand the Bible
Israel has been going through birth pangs ever since becoming a nation again in 1948
she will continue to have birth pangs until she is delivered.

so who demm go born?

blueAgent:
Then get ready for Hell fire. are U not supposed to do what the bible said rather than what man says.

God has instructed that no Woman,Man or Image should even be honour how much more worshiped. and you people keep decieving yourself.So why don't you people honour Joseph as the father or Abraham,Moses, and even David the man after God's heart.

I chanllenge try and do a little research of Catholic Church and Baybalon. Caution they are not concidence but real stuffs 100% facts.

jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/pope_eye.htm

so when u honor ur mmoda God go put u for fire?

DoctorAlien:
1. That Church surely keeps the Sabbath of GOD.

2. That Church does not promote idol-worshipping.

3. That Church does not encourage people to pray to dead people.

4. That Church teaches the Bible and the Bible alone.

so u didnt hear that the laws if sabbath are obsolattte? Where doess the bible say only d bible should b taught?

ddugeri:
Do catholics really worship marry??

wor- ship 1. 2. [wur-ship] noun reverent honor and homage paid to God or
a sacred personage, or to any object
regarded as sacred. formal or ceremonious rendering of such
honor and homage: They attended worship this morning

If the above definition is correct then the answer is yes catholics show honor towrd mary, their priests and even parents and conssssider them sacred personage.

Yes, wwe worship mary, i also worsship my mum and my priesst

Opharhe:
Ah ah! Bros na we we na... Edo state no get much as far as oil is concerned. I don't what the fuss ia all about; d tin no get much value again and dey wahala here and there. My people are even praying that the oil in their communities should dry up. The FG has it's blames, yes but Niger-Delta needs purposeful leadership to steer the society away from the excessive feeling of entitlement which is capable of causing a social disaster for us. Take Cross-River for example: they don't produce oil again(little if at all) since they lost some oil wells to Akwa-Ibom but look at what their state Govt. Is doing... We need that to be replicated throughout the region. May God help us.

hehehe abeg tell am, d fight no help ss, we need a political solution not a blowing tins up

johnw74:
it is enough to say it isn't the catholic church that is the pillar and ground of truth
the fact that they teach Mary to be the queen of heaven, just for one thing, proves that

where is the church paul was talking abt. U have told me what it is not. now show me the church or did it die wwith paul?

osabuohein:
sharrap. Edo has more than the entire SE. They're even some that are untapped in extremely large quantities.

hahaha for ur dream, i hope u self deyy pray make dem carry d war ccome ur doormouth?

johnw74:
duh, the woman with the crown of 12 stars is israel, and
the fact is you call Mary the queen of heaven, a title that belongs to a false prophetess,
not to Mary, and not to israel duh

isreal also had birth pangs when giving birth to Jesus abi?

macof:
many of the people commenting here aren't yoruba. they can see the lies in wat the Bini are saying.

there's no way to explain it. ..An Oba shouldn't bow for anyone. ..simple

and what concerns Ahmadu Bello with this?

oga move along》》》》》

u should know your obas were know to hide their tails and escape from their palace to avoid an invading army. Probably because of this same ego that preventss them from even a simple courtesy o their cconquerors.

osabuohein:
I'm from Edo and I'm in full support of the NDA. Let's see how the military will win this battle. No more free oil for hausa/fulani and their yoruba counterparts. These people are choking us in this country. Their demands are quite simple. PMB should negotiate with them or better still simply divide the rotten country.

y u no go support? How many oil edo get? No be ur land dem bomb.

haul:
This is only defense of pride, see what you're saying, the king has courtesy?? Courtesy is disrespecting your throne?? I know how it feels to be an edo when your king has no shame. Ndo!

Talking about the beads and regalia that our kings have none? You're a dolt! Ask the entire benin who thought them bronze casting, terracotta! The records are there for all to see, we gave you everything to be proud of, we gave you what you now revered which is KINGSHIP ! You can't deny this cause this part of history can't be doctored by your clueless revisionist!

hehehe why are u so pained? He showed courtesy binis dont care, u are crying. Why are u pained?

haul:
Stop lying! Benins are known to be a big liar, let me hurt your pride boy!

On no account! I repeat, on no account did benin people fought a war talkless conquering an hamlet!
Nupes conquer yoruba? Tell me where they conquer that we can see oooo! Yoruba conquer from west to up north,to west entering benin republic, straight down to east which is benin(installing kingship for you savage and gave you civilization).

You need your brain overhauled with sawdust.

ignorance is a disease so bini didnt fight any wars yet history says so. Nupe conquer oyo, that is history. Go and read.

Businessideas:
Go to Ile Ife and see the sacred place.It wasn't built today and predated even Oba Akenzua.What is the fun in building and maintaining ancient structure for a such purpose if it's not important?You can believe anything for as long as you are alive, it's your right but facts settled in history don't lie.And like Ooni said, if you don't want to associate with Yoruba, it still doesn't change the history.
Just like the picture of the Oba of Benin going as far as a stadium to welcome the Queen of England and bending almost half while greeting her was released to proof that it's a big lie that Obas of Benin don't go out of the palace or bend over to anyone.
One thing you've not bothered to get is that someone released that picture to the public and the picture is a subtle attempt to burst the lies or twisting of facts.Is it a coincidence that it was released when a new Oba of Benin was being installed? And many more will probably be released.
Benin royal family is of Yoruba extraction.Probably not the Benin proletariat but the Benin Royal family bouguise is.And the Oba of Benin is Yoruba and every Yoruba is under the Ooni.Imagine the Yoruba now coming out to deny that the mother of Sango is no longer Nupe.They will struggle with it like some Binis who don't know history are struggling to twist history.In life, if you say a lie, you will need 10 lies to cover it.
If you have any superior facts to prove the Yoruba camp wrong,please bring it sir.I am eager to learn.

did u dig d place a find head there? Did science confirm the heads are d ones of a bini monarch? So how do u prove that there are indeed heads there and the head if there isnt fromm some yoruba village with an ado prefix or ssuffix?

That picture isnt even newly released it has been in nairaland since 2013, nothing new there, the oba of beni leaves the palace sommetimes in ancient times d obas sometimes went for war, in recent times obas go on visits. There is noting new there it happens but it is rare, the photo is one of those rare occasions.

The oba of bini is alsso clear that is ancestry is purely bini, it is yoruba kings who dont know that oduduwa wass a bini prince thus the whole yoruba kingship is bini.

Consultville:
Lol, google is a good friend, Sir Adesoji Aderemi didn't get his 'Sir' from Ife people

it was giving to him right? And he accepted it? Do u know a knight is simmply a honored soldier under a monarch?

macof:
nupe never conquered yorubas.. they occupied oyo. ..so? does yoruba begin and end with Oyo? did oyo not return to take back their land and invade nupe to control theirs? ... face ur Oba who is not even up to the Awujale in majesty. ..

nupe conquered ekpoma. ..a part of Bini empire. .. they took territory from you and turned ur brothers into Muslims and you dare speak when Yoruba speak?

below is the Awujale meeting the same queen Elizabeth

is oyo not a yoruba empire? When d nupes overtook it and pursued its yoruba inhabitants severally is dat not conquering yorubas?

Ekpoma was never taken from binis, u can present contrary evidence 90 percent of ishan people are traditionalist and cchristians, not muslims as u claim.

And a picture of d ajuwale talking to the queen ssuddenly means he is majestic abi?