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donpata: It says it all. U are ignorant coz ur cardinal prints evrithing on d bulletin, stands in one position nd reads it out 2 u. And dats d end of the Mass. If Catholic priest devote much tym in studyn (mayb dats y we hav d Charismatic movtmt), they would have told u dat d bible mentioned different types of wines only dat english language is limited in stating it; so it uses wine for all of such instances. Dig deep "true Christian" nd free urslf frm dis dogma..



Before u Block my lungs with unkempt gutter, Illiteracy is ur middle name. Ohhh!! If only they would stop printing d message on bulletins so that they would preach better and their followers study the Word better.. By d way, i neva said anything abt abortion.. Its obvious d only tin u took up in secondary school was space; else u shld hav read my lines..
Have u lied before? Was it unintentional? Did u lie unconsciously? When u came late for work d other day, was it really traffic as u told ur boss? Was dat lie not preplanned before it was executed... Dont claim U dont knw Catholic cardinals WOUND BEER... I cant just imagine sitting syd by syd with My pastor in a Bar wounding Beer together. Gosh. By d way, i neva said anytin abt abortion...

I dey laugh ohh.. Read bible bro or better return 2 d Canadian prairies.

If not for alcohol which have robbed them of normal thinking, how can a state body pull out of its national body and still hold its name?

JNdupu: Nigerians excel in finding what divides us rather than what unites us. It's deep within our mentality and holds us back. See Catholic vs Non-catholic venom in this thread.

It's always one thing or the other. We are so psychologically scarred by our history that accentuating these divisions satisfies the primitive instinct to always be in conflict.

Ridiculous division along lines such as North vs South, Igbo vs Yoruba, Beron vs Fulani, Men vs women, gay vs straight, witch vs ghost, left-handed people vs right-handed people, bushmeat lovers vs suya lovers, Tall people vs short people, Isale Eko vs Yaba, albino vs dark skin ... etc

GraphicsPlus: Catholic Church my foot. Let them go and sit down. They want to be in power. Which church is more politicized and governmental than Roman catholic church? Vatican refused to be under Italian government. Let them pull out and face their eternal burden of leading millions of Roman catholic adherents to hell. Probably they wanted Ayo to start praying chaplet. Nonsense.

Image123: hope nobody's going to give me a dirty slap from behind for posting with efficos.
just wanted to point out that the phrase "FOR a covering" is not the same as "AS a covering". You don't need any links or study materials to see that, do you?

frosbel: I was under the impression that we should confess our sins to Christ in the privacy of our closet

koastar: Either the application is used for confession or to prepare someone for it, it is NOT acceptable because, confession is a communication between you and God bofore his representative, the priest. There should be no third party. It must be secretive and that is why an ordained priest does not make known in any form or manner the statement of a confessioner to anyone. All preists swore an oath of secrecy in respect to this during their ordination. Also, it is believed that priest forgets the confession of a confessioner immediately after the confession because God does not remember your sins after they have been forgiven by Him.

In essence, I'm trying to say that, the use of an iPhone or any other applications that can be bugged or traced to retrieve information of the user will go against the secrecy of confession and therefore, go against the oath sworn by the priest. This type of technology should not be encouraged at all for confession
CONFESSION AND ITS PREPARATION SHOULD BE SECRETIVE AND A TETE-A-TETE BETWEEN YOU AND GOD!

ibelab: very nice but wait till wikileaks got hold some of de confession tapes,

dan jalingo: gossip!!

truthislight: Imagine!
Is religion supposed to be all about twisting or about stating the facts/truth?

Boomark: what of false traditions? Infallibility will also uphold them too? If you can't see idolatry in bowing to images and going against God's command then i wonder what good thing Catholics can teach people about God.

Pastor Kun: But we have it on record that the catholic church has reneged on some of it's false traditions in the past; e.g "sale of indulgence" and mandatory church tithing comes to mind.

davesndy: Oga if u know anytin at all about d bible den u shld kno dat evrybody shld preach it. Not just some few people. Pls stop wit these talk. If d roman catholic church is truly not pleased with CAN, they should have gone through d ryt channels not just do dis publicity stunt. Whatever sha, I was never a fan of CAN.

hurricaneChris: One of the greatest things God did for me was bringing me into a catholic home. How do u xpet us to b confident with dis kinda Asso. wen it has los all values?

OMG!! The Pope who leads more than one billion catholics world wide, uses Ali-Italia (Italian Air), pastor Ayo with less dan a hundred million Christians in Nigeria uses a private jet.

bene factum ecclesia catholica, Benedictio Ecclesiae mater. .....welldone Catholic church, God bless the mother of the church

vitality22: Let me quickly tell you that the owner of Madonna University, Prof Fr Emmanuel Edeh is no more a catholic priest. He ordains his own reverend fathers and sisters who the catholic church does not recognise. He can not go to a catholic church to conduct mass. Take note

brownlord: What a shame, let the catholic bodies say the truth, is this not the first time a non catholic is leading CAN you see the born to rule mentality with we Nigerians,if it was the catholic leading this same CAN they wont hv reasons to pull out, now it's a non catholic they give all forms of excuse, is this in anyway diff. From the Jona and nothern palava that is tearing this nation apart, had there been a time the same CAN has never been close to the govt? What the objectives of the body to start with, is it not to represent Christians before the govt. so their problem now is that he's too close to the govt. doesnt that suggest to them the reason for been too close is because the govt. is led by a Christian, Abeg let this idiot say what their problem is and stop lying to the public

@ IYA NGBALI and co, you all arenhypocrits

Pastor Kun: Stop being your characteristically dis honest self, I asked you a question first which you are still evading as we write. Instead of answering my question, you are trying to trap me with a daft/irrelevant question.

Pastor Kun: Stop being daft you erred when you stated God translated the book of acts. Admit and correct yourself instead of trying to play smart.

Image123: they find it difficult to see what i post. If i posted Jesus is Lord, they'd argue against it.

Boomark: Are talking about a deluded goat? The truth is now clear to you. It will be a last year discussion to you if you have changed.

But as for other catholics that are still into it, those that think they are seriously worshipping God, they need to see my explanations above and repent from that sin.

Boomark: Ok. Can't the pope use the spirit of infallibility to correct/delete that idolatry?

Boomark: Ok. Can't the pope use the spirit of infallibility to correct/delete that idolatry?

Kay 17: But there are points in which the line between spirituality and SCience fuzzes away on matters of human knowledge.
Note that Galileo's liberal biblical interpretation was a response to a priest's criticism of his idea, the priest claimed that the bible was in support of geocentric model. In the conversation btw those two, there was only one metaphysical question.
The focus of the two trials focussed on the helicentricism question. The Church didn't ask Galileo to repudiate his scriptural interpretation rather the whole helicentric idea. Also unsurprising Kepler's works are in the index. Also note that Copernicius book was banned and in the Index of Forbidden Books.

truthislight: this greek influence infiltrated christianity after the death of the apostle.

Greek philosophy was considered a product of "higher learning" or higher education then just like the emphasis on a degree or degrees today.

This influence was so high that it was able to influence the so called church fathers after the death of the apostles.

The good is that alterations in the bible are easily rejected by the bible itself since it will Create contradictions Withing the bible, it will not have a clear sail from Genesis to revelation.

truthislight: ^^^
lies.
Apostle paul did not say that the greek worship the true God, he simply use an illustration of a stature dedicated to an unknown god to tell them that there is a true God unknown to them(the greeks).
No wander some people worship anything they see.
Erm, the apostles words were never directed to any particular nation o!. Not even to the greeks.
See the instruction they we given by christ:
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." (Matthew 28:19-20).

Stop the lies.

plaetton: I was just acknowledging your genius.
Who can argue with or against spirit.
It is the final bust stop in a religious debate, and you know just when to pull out the spirit card.

Pastor Kun: God translated sheol as Hades When would you stop this arrogant expression of ignorance you always use to ridicule christianity on NL?

frosbel: Hades is the greek word for the place of the dead or grave.
Jesus DIED , was buried and rose again.
acording to your erroneous theology, which by the way I do not blame you for , Jesus did not wholly die, his resurrection was a farce because only his body died while his soul went into your favourite but non-existent place called HELL.
Now , there are a number of problems with your logic.
1. Attributes immortality to the SOUL when the SOUL is in fact the whole MAN and not just his body.
For example.
"And I'll say to myself, "You have plenty of good things laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry."'" - Luke 12;19
Kindly , explain to the house how a SOUL can :
1. Eat
2. Drink
2. It suggests , this time very dangerously, that Jesus Christ did not fully DIE , in fact , while Mary and the rest where weeping , Jesus in one form or the other was in HELL doing battle.
Again, this is totally unbiblical, Jesus died 100% which is why the act of resurrection was such a powerful , miraculous , death destroying, sin smashing and devil shaming event.
The devil held men in fear because of death all their lives, but now JESUS had come and defeated death by obedience to the father, paving way for all who will follow in his footsteps.
"Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death--that is, the devil " - Hebrews 2:14
"But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him." - Acts 2:24

truthislight: trying to justify a lie, that Hedes = hell. No it is not the same thing.

moredendisc: @Ubenedictus
Couldn't resist the urge to ignore this. Incidentally the same pole position Image123 is latched on to
The idea of Hell english word according to Greek mythology original greek word Hades is that ONLY bad people end up there (i.e. no good people ever end up in hell)
The idea of Sheol to the Jews is that bad people & good people ended up there, however they were separated by a chasm or gulf
Hell is a makeshift once and for all translation for Hades, and Hades is the absence of a better word translation of the Hebrew original word Sheol
The translators should have stuck with Sheol instead of trying to translate it
So what's your response to this: Did good people, at some time, ever end up in Hell?

moredendisc: @Ubenedictus

It is an idiom, it is not my idea

gnashing of teeth
Figuratively. a show of anger or dismay.
- Biblical: "there will be weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth".

Example: After a little gnashing of teeth and a few threats, the boss calmed down and became almost reasonable.
See also: gnash, teeth

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/gnashing+of+teeth