₦airaland Forum

MuttleyLaff:
Nicodemus, the disciples and others before the Upper Room encounter, already were Born Again but without the indwelling of the Spirit, this is because it couldnt be bestowed or imparted until Jesus left earth to go back to the Father

Yes regeneration has to happen before indwelling. Today, indwelling of the Spirit starts immediately after regeneration - the event in the upper room was a significant one for everyone present at that time and it doesn't often happen that way today.

The Bible(Word of God) is Spirit and can be written in books or phone applications. As long as God is using His Word (whether through phone or book) to write His Principles on your heart, the media doesn't matter. THE SAME WORD IN YOUR BOOK IS IN YOUR PHONE, IT'S THE WORD THAT MATTERS NOT THE MEDIUM.

MuttleyLaff:
Why would you take someone's property without their expressed consent, hmm? Have you instead of stealing, asked the owner for the cup of rice first, huh?

What I'm saying is this: you having your hungry family on your mind while stealing doesn't make it right before God even if some people may want to justify the action by human reasoning.

MuttleyLaff:
"Jesus answered and said unto him,
Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God"
- John 3:3

We are talking of being Born Again aka born from on high as is confirmed by Jesus' statement in John 3:3 above, and you are talking of the indwelling of the Spirit, that happened further down the lane in the upper room. I dont think you've sat down to know the differences between the two

Being born of water and of the Spirit is the preparatory work for His indwelling. These two actions often happen at the same time though mostly not felt immediately. Of what use is His regeneration without His indwelling? What happened in the upper room is for the sign to be seen by everyone and it doesn't happen often that way today.

MuttleyLaff:
So masturbation whilst thinking about the good times you've had with your legally married wife displeases God, right, huh? SMH.

What displeases God will always be evil no matter what or who you have on your mind. You can as well go on to steal a cup of rice while you have your family on your mind because your family is hungry and you're broke.

MuttleyLaff:
Nicodemus too didnt know he was born again

No one, including Nicodemus could have been born-again then. The indwelling of the Spirit wasn't available.

I can relate so well with this. Growing up in a core pentecostal Christian home, where prayer and bible study were taken seriously. Even though the phrase "born-again" was a daily thing, I never really believed I was born-again even though my lifestyle was a lot different from those of my folks - at home and at school. I've never really experienced any dramatic supernatural change as I always hear people who newly got born-again usually do.

I discovered later in life that all the while I didn't believe the Holy Spirit lives in me, He has always been there but I thought I had to be perfect(sinless) if I were truly born-again. When I attend some churches on invitation and I am asked to fill the new-comers form, I always see the space for "When did you become born again?", I just reply "I DON'T KNOW"

Does it glorify God? If it doesn't, then don't let those carnally minded folks deceive you into displeasing God. The only sexual practice that pleases and glorifies God is that which you engage with your wife.

If you can't hold on till you meet your wife, ask the Holy Spirit to help you, with His help you can hold on till the right time comes.

Sex, as good as it is, just like eating food can be done in a way that displeases God. If you can fast on food with the help of the Holy Spirit, why can't you do same on sex?

Religion doesn't necessarily help in development of any nation but I know true Christianity(not Christian religion) has been a major factor in the development of most western nations over the last 2-3 centuries.

This is a very strong spiritual message. Keep it up OP!! Those who don't understand spiritual things will always be bitter with themselves for being confused seeing such a wonderful message.

It's not OP's fault you critics are blind to spiritual realities and you can't assimilate and digest spiritual foods. YOU ALL SHOULD GET LIFE, ONLY YOUR CREATOR CAN GIVE THAT LIFE, SEEK HIM WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND - ONLY BY FAITH.

God's judgment will soon come upon all the fraudsters using His name for their unholy business. I don't really blame them, I blame their role models who fly private jets and flaunt their material possessions because they are "serving" God.

herlecks:
... but Jesus was a God who has a God. This is where everyone is confused, they know Jesus was a God, but they confuse Him with the Supreme King. Jesus was a King who has a King. The Ancient of Days is His Father and His God.

sorry to say this but you keep sounding like an incoherent broken record because we can't have only One God and at the same time have another God(not god) that is subject to Him, except if you're going to utterly deny the deity of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Lord, the Everlasting Father that deserves our worship, that makes Him the same with the Ancient of Days as a Being NOT as a Person.

Jesus is subject to His heavenly Father as a Person NOT in essence. Is your soul not subject to your spirit? Yet your soul and spirit are essentially the same - YOU.

Your position is not different from that of Quran and Muslims, for their main purpose is to deny that Jesus Christ is Lord.

All these arguments are just not needed if the antiTrinitatian people would only stop trying to comprehend the existence of an infinite God with their carnal and finite minds.

janosky and his cohorts need to come to terms with the fact that the 3 persons - God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit are just the same essential Being. God is more than powerful to be that if some elements He made can exhibit such properties.

As a Christian, he shouldn't have paid back what the lecturer did to him. Judgement is for God to handle. The guy should have done his job regardless of who he's dealing with or even tried to reward the lecturer.

bloodofthelamb:
I don't believe in confessing of sins, but I believe in confessing my forgiveness and righteousness in Christ. I don't look at what is wrong with me, I only concern myself with what is right with me in Christ.

These lies my transformation.

1 John 1:9
How do you confess forgiveness without acknowledging your faults. Do you claim righteousness in Christ so you can go on committing the sins you've been forgiven? No my friend, GRACE doesn't work that way.

bloodofthelamb:
The Holy Spirit is not giving to convict us of sin but of righteousness always. He was not giving to point out what is wrong with you but what is right with you in Christ Jesus.

The Holy Spirit is in us to tell us how righteous we are through the perfect work of Jesus Christ. We can only reign and live righteously, if we see and believe our righteousness in Christ.

the voice of the Holy Spirit does convict (show) us when we are wrong so we may confess and repent. But the devil's voice is that of condemnation.

truthlover:
The fact that the Holy Qur’an is the only religious book on earth that remove this negative and bad impression about God from the minds of the general humanity is a very great indicator that the book could never have come from no other person except God Himself.

The Quran is a religious book, the Bible is spiritual book.

This right there is the only reason the Quran and Bible can never be compared - they are from different sources. The Bible is divinely inspired and can only be understood through divine inspiration. Such divine inspiration can only come from God's Spirit, not from satanic spirits. Satanic spirits can only appeal to the soul senses directly through the mind and feelings but God's inspiration comes from within the regenerated spirit before the mind and emotions can be placed in the right perspective to understand and contain His Word.

You don't need to discredit something you have no iota of understanding about just to prove your carnal points. My friend, YOU NEED A SPIRITUALLY RENEWED MIND TO UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE. ONLY JESUS CHRIST CAN GIVE YOU THAT.

While we can't underestimate the effect of our prayers for Nigeria, God needs our full cooperation to bring the much needed change.
Anyone with spiritual insight should already know that there are dark forces in charge of the affairs of the country - controlling how people think and act by influencing the govt, media, religious bodies, etc. These are the powers we must pray against while doing our little bits to influence everyone and everything around us for God's glory.

All your Bible references are just out of context as much as the points you made are irrelevant to Christianity and eternity.

Janosky:
Isce twisting the holy scriptures.
You claim " I am" statement is an allusion to Trinity .
Paul said :"I am what I am.. (1Cor15:10) as in Exodus 3:14, that means apostle Paul is God incarnate going by your wacky twist of the scriptures.
*Abraham said I am- Gen 22:11
* Moses said i am -Exodus3:4
* Jesus disciples said I am-Matt26:22
* The beggar said I am- John 9:9
Therefore they are God incarnates going by your fictitious claims.

Let me repeat it again, so you may get it;

Jesus' response "I am" simply means He was the God of the old testament. There is no doubt that the Jews understood what He was saying because they took up stones to kill Him for making Himself equal with God ( John 5:18 ). Such a statement, if not true, was blasphemy and the punishment prescribed by the Mosaic Law was death ( Leviticus 24:11–14 ). But Jesus committed no blasphemy; He was and is God, the second Person of the Godhead, equal to the Father in every way.

.

jcross19:
heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you.' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" ( John 14:28 ).in that verse Jesus is telling us about His father who is greater than Him please tell me who is that father then? in Philippians 2vs 6-9 but am going to quote just 9 "therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the name that's above every other names . now in that verse we two persons not one God and Him , who is that God and Him there ? are they referring to one person or two? see I have more than 500 reason to tell say that Jesus is not almighty God but is part of God , Jesus is the machine behind creation. Jesus came out of God. so, is in God.

The problem you anti-Trinity preachers are having is Jesus' continued reference to His Father and also the Comforter, yet you all ignore the fact that God is One and has the power to exist in different forms and locations at the same time.

Even though the Father is greater than the Son in position (especially in regard to the incarnation), yet the Father is not greater than the Son in essence or being; They are both equally God.

The whole concept of tithing is based on a Principle - Giving to support God's work. Now, whether you give 5%, 10% or 100% of your income to a local church where you attend or a missionary organization that God has used to bless you, it's up to you to follow the leading of the Spirit behind the Principle.

NB: It's not by force to tithe your income, no devourer is coming after your finances because we are under grace not under law but there is always a blessing attached to being faithful to God in any way.

Uzzah’s error was more than just a reflex action or instinct. God struck Uzzah because his action was based upon a critical error in thinking.
· Uzzah erred in thinking it didn’t matter who carried the ark.
· Uzzah erred in thinking it didn’t matter how the ark was carried.
· Uzzah erred in thinking he knew all about the ark because it was in his father’s house for so long.
· Uzzah erred in thinking that God couldn’t take care of the ark of Himself.
· Uzzah erred in thinking that the ground of Nachon’s threshing floor was less holy than his own hand.

Uzzah made a decision in a moment to disregard God’s command and to do what seemed right to him. Even decisions made in a moment matter before God.

He saw no difference between the ark and any other valuable article. His intention to help was right enough; but there was a profound insensibility to the awful sacredness of the ark, on which even its Levitical bearers were forbidden to lay hands.

jcross19:
see the op make a lots of sense. op proved his or her point from the bible, you too prove your own from the bible too. Jesus said me and my father are one is different from,"I am the father" Jesus is trying to show a great bond between Him and the Father. that's all but our old father in the lord miss led us to believed in such doctrine.

Jesus, in response to the Pharisees’ question “Who do you think you are?” said, “‘Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.’ ‘You are not yet fifty years old,’ the Jews said to him, ‘and you have seen Abraham!’ ‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’ At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds” (John 8:56–59 ). The violent response of the Jews to Jesus’ “I AM” statement indicates they clearly understood what He was declaring—that He was the eternal God incarnate. Jesus was equating Himself with the "I AM" title God gave Himself in Exodus 3:14 .

The world only views material possession and fame as blessings/success. But God views a growing and healthy relationship with Him as the real blessing, all other things are mere additions.
Most of these pastors are idolatrous and spiritual prostitutes, serving Mammon alongside serving God

Christianity is not a religion, you don't need to follow her to her church to be a desciple of Christ.
What s happening to you is God's unmerited Love. Start studying the Bible and pray with your whole heart that the Spirit of Christ make you understand.
GIVE YOUR WHOLE LIFE TO GOD. HE HAS A PURPOSE FOR YOUR LIFE. HIS HANDS ARE STILL OPEN TO YOU.
DON'T ALLOW YOUR OWN DESIRES TO LEAD YOU TO ETERNAL DAMNATION.
YOU CAN NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE MISSING UNTIL HE COMES INTO YOUR LIFE.

those pictures don't look like same person
may her family find strength in God

So because you don't understand the OT, that makes it satanic abi?
You should ask the Holy Spirit who inspired the writers to inspire you too to understand those texts. They're not storybooks or history books, they're for our learning and knowing more about the principles of the God we serve.
You'll need to overcome the time barrier for you to fully understand why God allowed so many things to happen which we at this period of time see as weird or savage.

NB: Without understanding the old testament, you can't properly understand the new testament and it's requirements. Everything that happened and every law given in the OT has a significance in the NT, hence in our own era.

What about those who try to "bribe God" with their gifts and prayers so He can "bless" them even if it's against His will?

What about those "men of God" laying bad examples for the young ones when it comes to getting rich and living large?

What about the politicians and fraudsters who "feel at home" in these congregations and even pay huge sums as tithes and offerings from their stoles wealth?

What about those "men of God" who frolic with these diabolic politicians and turn their congressions into political parties because of money and power?

They believe their private jets and wealthy lifestyles glorify God, but they refuse to see and let the world know that the symbol of Christianity is a CROSS and not a PRIVATE JET.

Are the pastors' ministries more important than Jesus' mission? Jesus Christ could have acquired horses, donkeys, camels and chariots for His mission but He chose to live an exemplary life for us to follow as His desciples.

God in His sovereignty can decide to bless anyone with so much finacial wealth but He expects His children to be humble and use His resources squarely for His purpose not for fame and comfort where there is so much poverty, moral decadence and spiritual darkness.

There is a lot left to be done in the Great Commission especially in reaching out to Arab and African Muslim world to help bring many of them into the Light instead of wasting resources on meaningless private jets that don't add any value to the God's mission except for their own personal comforts.

herlecks:
Although Jesus is a God but He has a God...

All you've succeeded in doing is to contradict yourself, unless if you really mean there are two Gods (which is impossible). The whole of the Bible is replete with evidence that Jesus Christ is the same God(Yahweh) of the old testament, who manifested in different forms to the Jewish people at different times before the incarnation at Bethlehem just over 2000 years ago. He is the same Holy Spirit manifesting in the lives of everyone who believes in Him from the day of Pentecost till date.