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EducationRe: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Venerable612(m): 2:54pm On Jan 19, 2020
Zealous2710:
Owawa is no Cheetah!!!
Owawa is called Civet in English.
Civet is ETA.
EducationRe: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Venerable612(m): 8:31am On Jan 19, 2020
nlPoster:
Where did you see tigers in Africa?
Were you alive in the 16th-19th centuries?

You just chose to believe all that the whites tell you about Africa.

Africa is not a country. It’s a vast land of multiple cultures that is now almost fizzling out and forgotten.
EducationRe: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Venerable612(m): 8:29am On Jan 19, 2020
GemUnique:
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In the process of you tryna correct, there are errors
Owawa isn't cheetah (I suspect you got that info form Yorubablog)
Owawa (I don't know the English name, but certainly not Cheetah) is not even close to big cat family
not too small animal, has white furs that run from its back to tail, makes its sound at night.
You can ask a Yoruba Hunter if you wanna know more about it.
Tiger can't possibly have a Yoruba name as it's not found here in Nigeria.
What I think is Ekun and Ogidan are just Yoruba Adjectives which by time are used to qualify the Animal (Tiger) due to it's courage and Size
Are cheetahs found in Nigeria?

Have you encountered God, Angels, Ghosts?

Why do you have Yoruba names for all of the above?

Your logic is flawed.

And whether it’s an adjective or not - you should kindly teach your Yoruba kids, if you are one, these things as well because our heritage is fast disappearing.
EducationRe: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Venerable612(m): 8:27am On Jan 19, 2020
kay29000:
Wow! Thanks for this breakdown. Yoruba language and culture really is Rich.

But what do you have to say about what the OP said about Tigers not present in Nigeria? This is a fact. There are no Tigers in Nigeria, so where did our forefathers see Tiger to give it a name?
Firstly, because we do not have tigers now, except, perhaps, in the zoo, does not mean they never had an encounter or cross-cultural tales about tigers in the Olden days.

Again, I doubt there are cheetahs in Nigeria. They are as well predominantly in Asia like Tigers, so why did the OP suggests the name is Amotekun?

The truth is Words are fungible. You use words for things you have seen or never have seen. That’s why we can use words like God Angels and even Dinosaurs intelligibly even without having encountered one.
PropertiesRe: Who Is To Pay Tenement Rate: Landlord Or Tenant? by Venerable612(m): 11:28pm On Jan 18, 2020
TechSpot:
You're the wrong one...

Land use charges applies to all lands owners with exception of entities or people that are excempted from paying rents e.g. religious lands or lands owned by pensioners while
Tenement rates are paid on land leased to another person.
I really don’t like to argue online.

I am a qualified lawyer in Nigeria, so my comments are informed. I have copied the excerpt of a recent FCT decision below.

“Court's decision

After due consideration of the provisions of Paragraphs 1 (j) and 7 (1) (j) of the 4th Schedule of the CFRN, the court held that the Area Councils have the power to levy and collect tenement rates that have been fixed by an Act of the National Assembly (not by the Bye-Laws of the Area Councils). The Court found that Area Councils cannot by themselves or by their Bye-Laws, fix the tenement rates as their power is limited to assessment and collection of tenements under an Act of the National Assembly which would have already fixed the applicable rates.”


TENEMENT RATES/LAND USE CHARGE are prescribed by Legislations. They can only be charged and collected by the State pursuant to a legislation. Lagos has a Land Use Charge Law of Lagos.

No one computes any tenement rates from your lease. If you have been doing that - go and instruct your lawyer - you have been cheated!

EducationRe: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Venerable612(m): 11:10pm On Jan 18, 2020
Demzlent:
You are wrong mister,how could olden days Yorubas have a name for something they never know,ogidan is oriki for ekun
Ekun is respected not for its size but for its boldness and courage. I will even try and get the oriki ekun and post it here, you will see that it refers to leopard seeing its description

Ekun - leopard
Amotekun - cheetah
Owawa - lynx

'Amo' in the amotekun does not mean 'know' it means 'almost like'
So the name translates 'almost like leopard'. Which could be rendered leopard look alike
Why do you have a name for God, Angels, the devil, Hell, ghosts and all the things you never saw or know? Or have you encountered each of them before?

Your logic is flawed.

People do use words intelligibly - whether they have experienced it or not.

And I don’t agree with you that there never was Tigers in Africa.
EducationRe: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Venerable612(m): 10:55pm On Jan 18, 2020
salford1:
We don't have and never had tigers in Africa. That alone outs like a thousand holes in this argument.
This is not an argument. They are statements of fact.

And if for the sake of ‘argument’, I concede to your comments; I really don’t understand your logic.

Do you mean the Yorubas can’t have words represent what a Tiger is, because they never encountered them physically?

That’s very illogical considering we use words intelligibly even without having seen or experienced them before - for instance, GOD and angels.

And by the way - there are so many proverbs on Ogidan and Ekun in Yoruba. It is highly unlikely that the olden days hunters never experienced a tiger.
PropertiesRe: Who Is To Pay Tenement Rate: Landlord Or Tenant? by Venerable612(m): 2:12pm On Jan 18, 2020
TechSpot:
occupier could either be the landlord or a tenant so write in clear terms.



land use act - Land owner
tenement rate - usually factored into rent in most cases. It is similar to how VAT is factored into purchases.
This is Wrong sir.

Land Use Charge and Tenement rate are the same.

It’s called Land Use Charge in Lagos State.
It’s called Tenement Rate in most of the other states, if not all.


Both are taxes for lease of the land from the Owner (the Governor) or (Minister in FCT) - and they are TO BE PAID BY THE LANDLORD, not the Tenant.
EducationRe: Amotekun Is Cheetah Not Leopard by Venerable612(m): 8:21am On Jan 18, 2020
Generalissimo75:
You have a point ...But for now, Amotekun is whatever the elders say it is.
Demzlent:
The launching of operation amotekun has exposed the fact that we yorubas are losing touch with our language to the extent that our leaders are calling leopard amotekun.
So I am taking this opportunity to educate my fellow yorubas
Many of us believe that tiger is ekun, leopard is amotekun,this is wrong.
Tiger is an animal that is not found in africa,Yoruba land included,so our fore fathers did not come in contact with it,so they couldn't have given a name to it.
The correct translation is
Leopard - ekun
Cheetah - amotekun
Amotekun means like 'ekun' because if you look at leopard and cheetah,they look alike only that leopard is bigger. Tiger doesn't look like these two , it has stripes not spots like the two
There is a Yoruba proverb that says ''asunkun pani bi amotekun' this is because of the stripes below the eyes of the cheetah
Thanks
This is wrong.

First off the name Amotekun has nothing to do physical semblance as such.

It literally translates - “one who knows as Ekun”.

Again, you are wrong that Yoruba doesn’t have a transalation for Tiger - because our fathers didn’t have an encounter with them.

In fact Tiger has two Yoruba names. It could be called OGIDAN or EKUN. That’s why they say this provide - “Ogidan o ni se Barber, ki aja de be lo ge irun”.

And “KAKA KI KINIUN SAKAPO EKUN, OLODE A MAA RODE.“ Mind you Lion in Yoruba is Kiniun. And no one will ever compare a Lion with a Leopard. No animal can stand the Lion grit for grit amongst the Cat Family other than the Tiger; hence, the comparison.

Also, when Yorubas jokingly refer to someone as Ekun - it’s to represent that the person is a Strong man.

Thus,

Lion - Kiniun
Tiger - Ogidan and Ekun
Leopard - Amotekun
Cheetah - Owawa.

Hope this helps.
PoliticsRe: Fayemi: South West ‘Police’ Takes Off January 9 by Venerable612(m): 9:55am On Jan 02, 2020
matrixme:
It is a Yoruba word for the leopard. Literally translated One who knows as much as the Lion.
Well said, but Ekun is translated English, Tiger. A tiger is also translated Ogidan.

Lion on the hand is translated KINIUN in Yoruba.

Amotekun - Leopard basically.

But this announcement is incomplete. I believe their Uniforms, Identity and relationship with other security forces should also be disclosed for proper guidance.
RomanceRe: Female Marlians Go Bral*ss And Pantl*ss To Naira Marley Concert Yesterday. PHOTO by Venerable612(m): 11:43am On Dec 31, 2019
kinzation:
what's this country turning to?
A friend told me you don’t need to date an average Nigerian lady to have s** with them anymore. Just invite them to your house, and the gate is wide opened.

Many of them have lost self-respect and value.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: I Give Up On Job Hunt. I Received Two Regret Mails Same Day by Venerable612(m): 8:44pm On Dec 28, 2019
ikwedim:
My own experience today is a most regret one. I apply job online like bodyguard, security or hotel worker. I got an sms from one of my applications that it is been approved that the CEO AND MD will have a chat with us. Only to go and it becomes a seminar on how to create job and be a partner. Chai from 7am to 4pm. Na job I d look for no be seminar. Only stuff na useless
grin grin grin.. those are GNLD guys. Sorry about your experience.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: I Give Up On Job Hunt. I Received Two Regret Mails Same Day by Venerable612(m): 8:42pm On Dec 28, 2019
Gerrard59:
Well, I've been in similar situations and to be honest, it's not funny. My issue is with you doing nothing for two years. Two years?!?!?!?! shocked Honestly, that's not a nice thing to hear/read. How do you cope during this period? Also, I read that you like the oil and gas industry. Well, no problem with your predilection but the industry is highly competitive and the best of the best compete to get a foot into the sector especially at the entry level stage. Another thing is that people rarely leave the industry to other industries and as a result, you would find persons working in one company or different companies within the industry for a decade or three decades sef! An example is the Head of Total Exploration Nigeria. The man has been with Total since his NYSC in the late '80s! So inasmuch as there are opportunities here and there, the competition is fierce. Seplat that her recruitment this time two years ago had over 42, 000+ applicants for less than 30 slots and some of the applicants I met were exceptional. Some schooled at the best of institutions, one even studied all through his life in the UK and lots of first class everywhere. I implore you to try other sectors provided you fulfil the requirements.

Furthermore, instead of staying at home doing nothing, I advise you find a way or ways to raise money for next year's Stutern's Graduate Accelerator Program for opportunities in the IT industry. Why I'm suggesting this is because the tech industry is egalitarian; no one cares about what and where you studied, and your grades. I know things aren't easy but you need to do something in the mean time which can change your trajectory for the better. Meanwhile, you can keep trying regarding job applications (your CV and cover letter being on point) and know your aptitude tests skills very well. Just know that it's highly competitive out there and these companies can afford to be very picky and select only the best of the best. Last year's PwC's recruitment had ~76, 000 applications for less than 200 slots. grin. So you see?

Cc: Efe42
Very well said.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: I Give Up On Job Hunt. I Received Two Regret Mails Same Day by Venerable612(m): 8:38pm On Dec 28, 2019
Efe42:
Nothing just waiting and looking for an internship program or a suitable vacancy to applied and I'm tried of doing that I'm really filled up with unemployment status
I am sorry about your unemployment status. It’s a phase in life, and it will surely pass.

I will leave you a candid advice:

I have read your comments and I notice you have bad Tenses.

For example - let me correct your quoted comment.

“Nothing, I am just waiting and looking for an internship, or a suitable role in a company. I am tired of applying and I am really fed up of my employment status.

Lesson: perhaps, you need to brush up on your English language as you make your applications. These are top organisations with highly qualified entries - you won’t stand a chance if your applications are ridden with grammatical errors.
PropertiesRe: Safety Tips When Renting A Property In Lagos| Cotenant.ng by Venerable612(m): 8:22pm On Dec 28, 2019
CotenantNIG:
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to our numerous readers



https://cotenant.ng/safety-tips-when-renting-a-property-in-lagos/
1. Many of your points are repetitive.

2. Why can’t you rent a place close to the express way?
This is largely relative - because, in a place like lagos where you need to beat the traffic to work everyday, living close to the expressway is your best bet.

3. I quite agree with you that it is necessary to do a background check on the house before paying for rent. Some houses have huge amount of debts on Nepa bills etc.
CelebritiesRe: Kcee Builds A House In Uli, Anambra (photos, Video) by Venerable612(m): 1:05pm On Dec 28, 2019
Dpharisee:
It's called Aku lue Uno or Aku rue ulo depending on the Igbo dialect.
It's a new mantra among the Igbos which means 'bring the wealth home', in recent past these kind of mansions used to be built only in Lagos, Kano and elsewhere the Igbos reside and do their businesses or work.
But frequent attacks, jealousy and envy even on forums like Nairaland have made them to start thinking home by putting up these magnificent structures in their hometowns (even if they may not spend more than 2 weeks in a year in them).

In the process jobs are created and the economy is boosted at home as most of the building materials are
sourced locally from their people.

For those who keep wondering how they made their money, just understand that Igbos are business and technically minded people,
When Kaycee is not singing he is doing oil and gas contracts with his brother and associates.

Igbos invest without making noise about it, I have betting shops in different parts of Lagos which I control from my phone anywhere I am, while still maintaining a Civil service Job which I don't want to quit because the Govt job is like free money for a hustler like me.

I knew that Buhari will run down the economy and many Nigerians will be desperate to make quick money, so I took a loan and opened the first Bet9ja shop, every Tuesday I get commission from different shops (which makes my salary insignificant) and my colleagues in the office still think that me and them na mate, I do it quietly grin

Instead of abusing, let's learn from each other, one of the things that shocked the British colonial masters was the ability of the Igbos to learn whatever the Whiteman was doing and perfect it.
Igbos are learning from you while you keep hating on them, why not learn from them too? smiley

Congratulations to Kaycee
I norm don’t comment on tribalistic comments, I will make an exception in your case.

You made sense up to this point

“they see opportunities where others don't, they multitask to make money while you are on one spot.”

1. You don’t know what type of business Kcee does, because you are not Kcee. So don’t speak authoritatively about his business.

2. There are a number of clueless Igbo persons - working odd jobs and lacking business acumen.

3. All tribes genuinely have individuals running different businesses that are doing very fine, which are not on the spotlight. You can google who Gbenga Oyebode is - for example.

4. In the end,Kcee is still coming back to lagos to make money, because that’s where the money is made.

Good luck with your Igbo mantra.
RomanceRe: My Beautiful Wedding Pictures by Venerable612(m): 7:08pm On Dec 24, 2019
tolulope2021:
More pic

Lalasticlala
Op is your wife’s name Moyo?

She looks so much like an old colleague of mine in the university but I can’t place the face accurately.
EducationRe: Which Country In Africa Colonized By The British Speak Correct English? by Venerable612(m): 6:27pm On Dec 20, 2019
ignis:
You are correct
Cheers
EducationRe: Which Country In Africa Colonized By The British Speak Correct English? by Venerable612(m): 3:31pm On Dec 20, 2019
ignis:
Not all schools in abroad ask for that.

Most schools in UK and Australia don't.
Not to state the obvious - I studied and work in the UK.

I am aware that some schools in the UK will allow exceptions - perhaps by providing a letter from your Undergraduate Uni that your course was taught entirely in English and with at least a C6 grade in English (Waec).

This does not mean the condition is not there. There is no University in the World where Nigeria is listed as English competent. You will either have to provide English language tests - or they grant you an exception.

That’s exactly my point.
PropertiesRe: Our Tenant Refuses To Vacate Our Apartment After About 10 Months Quit Notice! by Venerable612(m): 10:37am On Dec 20, 2019
Darevofpeace:
Your level of exposure in legal terms is quite amazing.

I celebrate your wisdom and intelligence.

If you were a female,I would get marry to you tomorrow without any relationship nor proposal.
grin grin grin.

Thank you sir.
PropertiesRe: Our Tenant Refuses To Vacate Our Apartment After About 10 Months Quit Notice! by Venerable612(m): 6:56am On Dec 20, 2019
WAECMATHEMATICS:
Thanks for your advice.

Hope it'll not drag for months before he's ejected by the court's Sherrifs.

For the traditional means, can you shed more light on it? grin
The legal ejection will take you an extra 3 months give or take. But that’s your best bet. If you get a good lawyer, it may be faster.
PropertiesRe: Our Tenant Refuses To Vacate Our Apartment After About 10 Months Quit Notice! by Venerable612(m): 5:00am On Dec 20, 2019
utenwuson:
Tomorrow morning, call a carpenter to remove some of the roof, call a plumber to disconnect the water, cut off the electricity, remove your door and window, .... Within 12 hours, he will Park out...
flyingdutchman:
Na guerrilla tactics remain oo! Send random people to make his life a living hell. But, beg them make dem no beat am or kill am oo! Make him property just dey loss small small.
PLEASE DO NOT TAKE BOTH OF THIS ADVICE.

Like the Lagos Mediation Centre told you - under Nigerian Law, and particularly Lagos’s Tenancy - you cannot resort to Self-help. Even when you have served the statutory notices.

So it means YOU CANNOT FORCEFULLY EJECT HIM from your house or you risk being sued for unlawful ejection Yourself and having to pay for damages.

What yu can do is this.

INSTRUCT A LAWYER

If the value of the Rent is less than #10M, proceed to the Magistrate Court. You can institute an action for ejection and serve it on the Tenant.

If the Value of the Rent is above #10M, then you must proceed to the High Court immediately to the same as above.

Note: on both cases, you will normally take a Writ to enforce the judgment of the court on ejection. With that, the Sherrifs in the court will be the one to come eject him from your house themselves.

ANYWAY - that’s if you want to do it legally. Otumokpo, Ogun lakaaye or any traditional means may be a faster and cheaper means grin. Just kidding.
EducationRe: Which Country In Africa Colonized By The British Speak Correct English? by Venerable612(m): 4:48am On Dec 20, 2019
olamariamjonez:
Nigeria is one of the worst when it comes to english speaking. But, nowadays most of parents don't want their children to speak their native language.
I want to know the countries in Africa that are colonized by British, that speak correct British English.
What do you mean by correct British English?

None!

If there was any - we all won’t need to write Toefl and IELTS to get an admission to study abroad.
EducationRe: Tears As Popular Students Leader, Yemi Likedat Dies In Auto Crash (photos) by Venerable612(m): 4:39am On Dec 20, 2019
Scientists are yet to find answers to what happens when people do.

You can’t but wonder.

RIP to the deceased young man.
EducationRe: Leaked Video Of The 400 Level Student Killed In Koga State University Anyigba by Venerable612(m): 3:24am On Dec 19, 2019
He had the nerve to come down from the bike, shoot him twice, and still machete him in broad day light.

Some people’s soul is as dark as Hell itself. I even feel very awful when I have to tell a lie.

He should be arrested and prosecuted, together with the bike man accomplice.
CrimeRe: Missing Baby Not Exhumed From Sotitobire Church Akure - Ondo Police Give Updates by Venerable612(m): 3:32pm On Dec 18, 2019
Toks2008:
I think the social media bill should scale through.

One false news can have a negative impact.

This is why I always wait a while before commenting on any social media news.
Yu are right.

When there is a punitive measure for anyone who peddle falsehood through social media - people will be more careful about what they post.

Imagine the worth of properties already destroyed/ and even the emotional distraught to the members/family of the accused - if no allegations were later proved to be true.

So much hate in this country.
PoliticsRe: Sanwoolu Marks The Completion Of The Blue Line Rail Bridge by Venerable612(m): 9:28am On Dec 18, 2019
Wickedtruths:
Is it your state?
Is it your money?

Go to your state and hold your Governor accountable and stop talking nonsense here.

If the standard of governance in Lagos is too low for you, go back to your state. It's not by force for you to be in Lagos.
Could you please stfu.
PoliticsRe: Gov. Sanwo Olu Inspects Sea-crossing Track Of The Lagos Blue Line Rail. Pics. by Venerable612(m): 3:58am On Dec 18, 2019
NGpatriot:
Very unfortunate that Ambode abandoned the project and we lost 4 years of progress.

What a disservice.
rottennaija:
Why was this project abandoned by the previous administration?
I think you guys are misinformed.

I passed through Marina during Ambodes administration... and I saw the Chinese folks work on those beams at the time.

What you should ask is why there is slow completion.

The project was never abandoned!

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/280441-ambode-govt-spends-over-100mn-euros-on-lagos-light-rail-project.html

Moreover, AMBODE’S 4 years as Governor of Lagos was Amazing, infrastructure-wise.

As Governor, you can’t do everything.

His only Undoing was Tinubu.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: How Much Exactly Is A Graduate Starting Salary? by Venerable612(m): 3:50am On Dec 18, 2019
Godmother:
Guys, I need help. I just got an offer and in the letter sent, the employer stated I will be paid a graduate starting salary.

I know I can ask, but I got this job as a sort of favour from someone who knows the employer and feel it might be too forward of me to ask.

Does anyone know what a graduate starting salary is? Please help a sister. I have to give my response latest tomorrow and I want to know how much it is before committing myself.

TIA
From a legal perspective, Like someone mentioned - an offer letter for employment should contain basics about your Salary.

It will also state whether you are entitled to paid leave.

How many weeks notice for resignation or removal - and what salary would paid in case you resign... etc.

My sister recently resigned from her job and it turned out she was supposed to give a Month notice. Because she gave 2 weeks notice, she will be paid the amount of money she was earning in the last financial year - which is quite low. Worst still, they are deducting all the days she was absent from the same salary. She got no choice, Cos she signed all these when she was being engaged.

So basically - try to confirm, even though it came as a favour. No harm in asking what your pay will be.

How do you accept an offer when no offer has been made?

Please write to them to confirm the terms of your offer before accepting it.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Don't Kill Yourself If You Are Like This Donkey (Photo) by Venerable612(m): 9:25am On Dec 17, 2019
Many of these loads are self-inflicted.

1. Having multiple girlfriends, when married or even when single.

You end up bearing their responsibilities - and some times their family’s. Just because of sex.

2. Living above your means. You are staying in a one room self. You earn below 150k monthly. But;

You are using a DSTV and have to subscribe above 10k monthly just to watch EPL etc. at the comfort of your home.

You take Uber daily, instead of public bus or bikes.

You eat out in eateries and go to cinemas every now and then.

Subscribe to Netflix and all music channels - just to stream.

Make promises to people you can easily avoid and lie to that you are just managing.

Belong to multiple social clubs and association in church and all.

Spending money instead of investing it or saving and yielding small returns.

Etc.

Truth is - many loads can be Genuinely unloaded; leaving only the basic ones that are unavoidable.
PoliticsRe: Adewale Oyekan Sentenced To Death by Venerable612(m): 7:20am On Dec 17, 2019
BabaRamota1980:
Certain segments of this story is missing links.

Even sons of the ex-Oba who never went abroad are properly positioned in good jobs. As an Architect and a son of immediate past Oba he just needed to go see Bajulaiye of Lagos, and he would be secured with a good job.

I doubt this guy is a true son of Oyekan. The palace has servants and officials that live on the grounds and have done so for generations. They born children at their quarters in the palace and sometimes from playing and growing with royal princes these children get confused and I suspect that is the case here.
This news was reported by Channelstv. There is little chance this was a journalism error.

Moreso, this case has been in court since 2015. Information - such as identity are basic. Their identity would have been established.

Also, don’t you think it is highly unlikely to use the name of a Prince of Lagos without verifying if he is a true Prince?

Your concerns are not misplaced - but there are little chances of mistaken identity here.
CelebritiesRe: Bobrisky Announces The Arrival Of His Bentley (photos) by Venerable612(m): 8:18am On Dec 16, 2019
AdeniyiA:
What work does she do exactly?
He is not a she.

He is a pervert.

An impostor. And He makes a living from the stupidity and perverseness of our present age.

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