₦airaland Forum

GloriousGbola:
We are the same people who made Kim kardasian a star, and we wonder why kids are making and sharing sex tapes?

We are the same people whose kids are inundated with naija jolof music booty videos. How much contemporary Nigerian music can kids listen to that is not just sex sex sex?

Add to that the funny but definitely not for kids mr macaroni videos.

How many of us actually control the content our kids have access to? How many of us are able to have conversations with our kids about what is happening in their lives? Parenting is not just giving out orders and punishments and discipline,especially today.

And the most important question - how many of us are monitoring and controlling the content our kids see on the Internet?

This is not just about Chrisland. This is playing out in every school in Nigeria in one way or another. Some of those leak sites feature actual rapes in secondary schools.

It is first and foremost up to parents. Too many schools are jumping on Internet without understanding the first thing about proper Internet administration.

And as I have said before, the ISPs are not doing their part. By now there should be a child isp package that blocks porn, WhatsApp, etc.

All these training hustlers need to setup seminars on training parents in it competence

Well said. Nigerians love sensationalism and are overly emotional.

hoodboy:
I didn’t go out to look for the video, it is on twitter, just reading through threads and the video starts playing automatically.
I didn’t like, comment or share or even download to rebroadcast or anything.
I understand producing or sharing child pornography is a big crime and also immoral too.

I fault the people that put out the rape narrative, and that is the cause of this brouhaha. Is the school culpable? Yes. This is because under proper supervision those kids shouldn’t have done what they were found doing. Furthermore, if they didn’t involve the parents of the children involved upon discovery of the incident, that would also be bad of them as well.

Even though I don't want to evonorate the school, it is very difficult monitoring pre teens and early teens 24/7. I have a child who just became a teen and he is almost giving his mother high blood pressure. It takes the combination of 3 of us (my wife, my mum and myself) to monitor him.

JOemmy:
The school authorities are the ones to blame for leaving the kids all alone after taking them out of the country. Those kids might have learnt the truth or dare game from watching bbnaija show.

Obviously. That's why I advocate strict censorship of programs on DSTV/GoTv.

wolesmile:
I saw the disgusting video. That was no rape. If I am not mistaken, the girl was even riding the boy at a point. It was totally disgusting. I remember asking the person that showed me why he should even keep such on his phone.
When I think about what kids these days are capable of, I become afraid for the future generation. We have thrown morality in the air. Look at Iyabo Ojo's daughter, Mercy Aigbe's daughter, and recently, the picture of Omotola's 22 year old bikini wear, (That one is even a product of Chrisland) believe me you'll know these kids have been exposed various forms of indecent behaviours since their junior school days.

I was surprised by the sensational headline. There was nothing like rape. It's children messing around.
Everyone is getting emotional and reacting the wrong way. I sympathise with Chrisland College, they too were confused on how to react, given the very recent Dowen college saga. They should have called a meeting of all the parents of the children and showed them the video. They should also have temporality suspended the students and advice the parents seek therapy.

At that age (10 - 14) children tend to experiment a lot, and its exasperated by Internet and DSTV/GoTV, so parents needs to be extra vigilant on their children. We all played mummy and daddy at that age, but we didn't take it that far.

I hate it when Nigerians react emotionally instead of practically to societal issues.

cobby14:
Lol I’m driving a 2019 model car and I’m replying you rn from the comfort of my home. Lol did you say poverty ?

What he meant was a poverty family. I will be ashamed to be fighting my children to inherit my father in laws lands and properties he willed to his daughter (and grand children) if my own father has lands and properties he can will to me.

PoliteActivist:
But those were drawn by whites. The Bible itself says they were all back

Please provide chapters and verses which states that they were all blacks.

Realists:
A racist Pastor aka CEO of International church owner. See what mental colonialism has done to his brain, that the killings & enslavement of his ancestors during the trans Atlantic slave is not enough, he now only sees heaven for white race not black race. Our mumu never do?.

I am sorry to say but the prophet has a point. God, Yahweh, Jesus, holy spirit, Abraham, the disciples, the apostles and all the characters in the bible are white. All the angels are white. Have you ever seen a representation of a black angel before? Except maybe Lucifer/Satan.

DeAlphaMale:
Without any will the husband inherits the wife properties after death.... Unless the property was willed to the op the father is the rightful owner

For the umpteenth time inherited property is not considered marital asset

How else can I knock this fact into your head?

Yeyeoldman:
Nigerian Men educate yourself. Ojukwu family is in a mess right now because the family members were banking on traditions and customs to wrestle ownership of strategic assets from Bianca's grip. God bless Bianca's Dad who gave her quality education. The Ojukwu's were stunned when they realized that they couldn't bully this woman.

Dear Naija men educate your daughters. Being a sperm donor is not enough. Women have seen hell in Nigeria because we believe that they should have no say in matters related to inheritance and will. Let's change this please. By law, when a partner dies intestate, the surviving spouse is entitled to 50% the assets before considering any bastard. Those you supporting the OP can please show me where the woman willed the properties to him? What manner of satanic entitlement is this ?

You are pretending to be deaf, dumb and blind. We are talking about inherited property and not properties acquired by the husband or wife through their own efforts.

Its not right that Ojukwu using the same customs appropriated all their fathers properties for himself, and now that he has died, wants to will the same properties to his new lovely wife. What about his brothers and sisters and their children? They too carry the Ojukwu blood, are they too not entitled to some of Louis Ojukwus inheritance?

Yeyeoldman:
Dear men, Kindly consult your wife when drafting your will. Remember dead men can't do nothing. If your spouse is not comfortable with your will she can contest it in court and guess what she will most likely win. Those who have ears let them hear. Go and ask the Ojukwu's. They learnt this lesson the hard way. Tribal sentiments and customs cannot supersede the law of the land. Always remember ignorance is not a defense in the court of law.

Ojukwu's case is still in court as we speak. Ojukwu willed his properties to his wife Bianca and children, but his siblings sued him saying the properties are family properties and cannot be willed to a third party since their father died intestate.

Trojan8:
There's nothing that WILLS it to the op though, so he has no rights to claim them for himself. At the end of the day, a competent law court would share same inheritance to all parties involved. I am done with this.

I don't know why you are insisting on a point of argument that has no legal basis whatsoever. Do you intend to inherit your wife's father's properties?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.icnl.org/resources/research/ijnl/discriminatory-property-inheritance-under-customary-law-in-nigeria-ngos-to-the-rescue%3famp

Trojan8:
• If a person dies leaving a spouse but no issue the spouse is entitled to the entire
residuary estate. Where there is a surviving spouse and children the spouse is entitled to
only the “personal chattels” such as moveable possessions but not money of the
deceased husband and a statutory legacy such as the ''Fixed Net Sum of £270,000 plus
interest from the date of death of her deceased husband as contained in order 2020 of
AEA 1925''. If there is a residuary estate it would be equally divided between the spouse
and all the children on 50%-50% basis. Before the enactment of ITPA 2014, the
spouse’s 50% residue was held on a life interest trust for her.


Same link

You are going off point here. We are talking about inherited property and not personal properties acquired with one's own efforts.

Trojan8:
Nobody is talking about properties earned by force. In the scenario I painted, who has LEGAL rights to those properties? That is the question, not telling me what happens in Nollywood.

Spouses don't have automatic legal rights to inherited property.

DEBJOCH1:
SON, BY RIGHT, THE PROPERTY BELONG TO YOUR FATHER[ AND NOT YOURS, BUT I SMELL DIS-UNIYY AND DIS-ORGANISATION IN YOUR FATHER, IF NOT SO, SINCE YOU ARE OLD ENOUGH, YOUR DAD IS SUPPOSE YO CARRY YOU ALONG I. HIS ACTION. I KNOW YOU ARE A YORUBA, RIGHT?. DONT EVER SEE YOUR DAD AS A STRANGER WHEN IT COMES TO THE OWNERSHIP OF YOUR MUM PROPERTY, RATHER YOU ARE THE STRANGER, UNLESS IN A SITUATION WERE YOUR DAD IS AN UNWISE SPENDER.

Please explain how your wife's father's property becomes your own without her family's consent.

Trojan8:
So if a man inherits a property, the wife SHOULD NOT have access to them in the event that the man dies because he didn't ACQUIRE them?

If this serenio happens, the brothers and sisters of the dead husband would descend on the property before the body is even cold. It will be almost impossible for the wife to appropriate inherited properties without the help of the husband's grown up children, who are also grand children to the husbands patents.

Trojan8:
There's nothing like inherited property with the way you are making it seem. What if the husband has actively helped to put those properties in a better state?

If a man gets inherited properties after marriage, does that deny the wife (next of kin) ownership in the case that the man dies?

There are actually cases where the spouse is bound by certain liabilities. This does not work with kids, because a marriage relationship is superior to the other.

Please get some education instead of stubbornly holding on to a misconception. Once again let me educate you - inherited property is not considered marital asset unless either the property was sold and the proceeds used to acquire another property or that the other spouse contributed significantly to the building/upgrading or contributing significantly to the improving of that asset.

Your wife can't inherit a property from her father and boom you become a property owner.

Trojan8:
Clowns talking about the estate returning to the son or the wife's family. So if the woman had a debt to be settled, would the family/this son come and pay the settlement amount? It's now a property, so the husband does not have any rights.

I am not in anyway in support of the husband selling those properties, but both parties should try to settle it amicably.

Not a 40 years man with a house of his own according to him fighting his father over properties that were not even willed to him in the first place.

We are talking of an inherited property and not property acquired as a result of efforts by the husband or wife during the marriage. This had nothing to do with debt acquired by the wife during the marriage. Even at that, I doubt a husband can be forced to assume liabilities he is not a party to.

Yeyeoldman:
Well the law don't see it that way. If this goes to court, the OP will not only lose He will be mandated to pay the legal fees and other monetary compensation to his Father for disturbing his peace. The property belong to the man by virtue of Marriage. The woman cannot even will the said property to the son without the man's consent. I guess you didn't know this.

False. Inherited property is not considered marital property in most jurisdictions.

goody234:
get a good lawyer and be firm your father is being greedy!! and he is trying to chance you ..Do not allow him to take over your mothers properties i repeat do not allow him to collect rent from any tenant.
To be candid with you i dont think your father has done well in life to be fighting over property with you he is exhibiting a poverty mindset

I don't even mind his father collecting rent on some of the properties to help him alleviate his and his families poverty. But the most annoying one his him attempting to sell the properties. Selling the properties of your wife's family is very low in terms of integrity. What will the wife's brothers and sisters (who are also entitled to the same properties).

PlanktonX:
How can you say your father is dragging his wife property with you.....

Not just his father's wife's property but also his own grandfathers property. What if the the guy is not the biological son but a step father. Will you expect that his grandfathers property willed to the mother and then will to him should be appropriated by your mother's husband (step father) because he was married to her?

Are you sure you are this man's son?

Why ask the question? Was there any doubt in the first place?

Many people had been sent to the world beyond because of properties....

Yes. Families fight over property the world over.

Plz hussle for what is yours and enjoy this beautiful life God has given you. Whether your father like it or not, he would leave the property someday, but to who?

This advice should go to the father. He should hussle for his own property instead of chooking his eyes on a property hustled by another man, and willed to his daughter.
How can the father leave a property for anyone when he does not own a property of his own, but had been parasiting on the properties of the wife's family.

CSTRR:
Well, that is what happens when a man inherits properties too.
It passes to his wife.

The only reason why this one is strange is that usually the surviving parent keeps it for the children.

But normally, it belongs to the surviving parent to do as he or she pleases.

Many women have squandered their late husband's wealth on new boyfriends.

It's their right.

The same applies to the man in this case too.

Inherited properties carries a lot of emotional attachments, and so it is not usually included in spousal inheritance or shared family property during divorce. This applies even in the West.

exnovio:
My brother ,please don't be greedy,since your father is alive anything that your mother had belongs to him now,don't ever to fight with over this or it will attract curse to you.

Are you aware that the property was inherited from the wife's father? So you mean the wife's father's property should pass unto her husband and then pass it unto another woman when he remarries.

Trojan8:
Stories. Without a will, the husband is the next of kin.

Trojan8:
There's no will here, and the next of kin where there's a legal marriage is the spouse.

False!

ChristineC:
so you are saying if a the wealthy man and wife have a family lawyer (of course there will be one), and dies inter state, the powers of this lawyer is totally useless to his client's surviving children?

If he dies intestate, then customary law takes precedence. The lawyer can only help the particular wife and children in court. Other wife's, children and family members would also appear in court to argue their case according to their customs.

Tkeke:
I would have advised you to be patient with your Dad, so that when he too is gone, you will have access to the said properties. But my problem now is that your Dad is selling or planning to sell off the properties. That means that there might be nothing left for you to inherit. The real owner left them for you, but somebody's son, i.e. your father wants to do otherwise. This is where the problem is. I will advise that you have one on one discussion with him.

What then happens if the father marries another wife and bore other children?

ChristineC:
is this seriously how the law work in Nigeria?

That's what most families goes through, if the spouse dies inter state.

ChristineC:
so in other words, the relative with the biggest balls take the meat. is this seriously how the law work in Nigeria?

And the biggest influence or the biggest thuggery and sometimes the biggest juju threats.

baby124:
Those are for people who refuse to fight. Not everybody is weak and take things as God’s will dear. Will they try that nonsense with Fashola or Tinubu’s wife? If you sit back, locusts will eat your inheritance.

Its never that easy. You know that we live in a very polygamous or polyamourous society. Most marriages have some complications, with the man having multiple wives or baby mamas. Or even women having children outside of their legally married husvands. So how do you divide properties if a spouse dies without a will using only common law, or even in the case of divorce. Are all the children and wives not entitled to a portion of their fathers wealth?

ChristineC:
so let's assume there is no will. a wealthy man and his wife dies in an accident, leaving behind young kids.
how do you think their estate will be secured?

In this scenario, the extended families would fight each other to a stand still. It all depends on who has access to the papers of the properties, shares and bank accounts. (Though bank account would be more complicated).

Remember the children are not of legal age to do anything. It is when they get to the legal age of 18 that they can start fighting for their parents properties, and by then it might be to late. All the properties would have been sold and shared.

baby124:
Only properties acquired during marriage belong to the couple. Not properties before marriage or inherited properties.

That one na for obodo oyimbo o. Here in naija, unless the property is titled Mr and Mrs, when the couple separates, everyone goes with his or her properties. Even when a husband or wife dies, vultures in the form on extended family members descend on the properties of the dead spouse, not minding the surviving spouse or children.

ChristineC:
the property belongs to your father first. without a will, her husband is automatically the next of kin.
oga go and settle with your father or move on.

False premise. First a husband (or wife) does not automatically become a next of kin. It has to be specifically written down. Besides there is no universal next of kin. There are next of kin for various purposes. When opening your ban account, you could fill your husband as your next of kin. When getting a new employment, you could fill your mother as your next of kin.

Secondly, a will supercedes any next of kin.

Kobojunkie:
You know this is another angle the OP could look into. If the marriage between his father and mother were never in fact registered, maybe OP could use that to his benefit. What do you think?

A legal will supersede legal marriage. If the properties were solely in her name, she could will it to anyone she wishes.

immortalcrown:
Your house is not in order. This is all I can say now.

But by right, your father is most entitled to your mother and her property, just as you will be most entitled to your wife's property.

False. If your mother did not will her property to her husband, he cannot claim it.

A husband (as well as other members of the wife's family) can only fight for his wife's family if she died inter state. Then customs and traditions will come in to settle property sharing.

At OP.
If you don't want your father to exhibit any property you legally inherited from your mother, contact a competent lawyer. He will first issue a cease and desist letter to your father and if he does not obey, institute legal proceedings. But then, you should be prepared for the backlash from him and his side of the family. They will first blackmail you and then disown you.