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400billionman:
Envy and greed don enter this thing.

You said he took your wife, now we are hearing that your marriage has been dissolved since .

How come you want to Cashout N2bn from Suleiman ?

Another idolator. Who told you the marriage has been desolved since ? Was it the husband or the wife?

This is what pastor suleiman's lawyer said in his court filings;

It has come to our knowledge that one Mike David has purportedly filed a law suit against our client, Apostle Johnson Suleman and seeking two billion naira as damages for allege interference in his marriage which has since been dissolved a few years ago .

Jman24:
You see why Africa is still where it is today. A fellow pastor is crying (whether it's fake or not) and it didn't touch the hearts of so called congregants at least to tell their pastor to clear the air. Rather they cheered on until it got to this point.

I keep saying it. Assuming christianity for instance is the authentic religion, the blacks don't even understand or practice up to 10% of it's contents correctly.

The other day.. I told a friend I can't visit a lonely married woman in her home. And this religious dude laughed at me and said.. I'm not born in spirit that we should get to a level we live above the law.
I wanted to argue, but didn't have the energy .. so I dropped a line for him;

"see you see adultery"....


#Oh my Africa

Blacks don't practice Christianity, they practice anthropolatry - the worship of man. No matter what their "god" is accused of, they immediately jump to defend him, without even looking at the allegations. Here is a pastor that has been accused of rape/sexual molestation in not one situation, not two situations but three different situations, but idolators will quickly jump to defend him with their lives every time.

Even the their god's testimony does not make sense. The aggrieved pastor had been blackmailing pastor suleiman for over 6 years, but was sacked just over 2 years ago. The idolators can't even dare to ask what the blackmail about. Was it the blackmail that led to his sacking. Why sack the husband and promote the wife? I thought the church was meant to promote marriage. Was the church aware of the marriage problems of two of its pastors? If they were, what counselling did the church give them? Or Omega ministries don't do marriage counselling for its members.

Anyway, a man down already fears no fall. Pastor David would fight to his last breadth for his children. No government or pastor can separate a man from his children.

compton11:
Christians get law?

Na because christians no get law make Muslims states in the north in a constant state of anarchy.

Because christians no get law na him make even in the south, na Muslims de cause problems.

Na because na Muslims get law na him make Muslims majority countries of the world always in a State of perpetual anarchy, while the Christian nations are the most prosperous.

Na because christians no get law na him make Muslims no to stay in their own state or countries but always migrating to Christian nations and states.

I now see why Trump wants to ban Muslims from America, so dem go dey enjoy their law. I wish western Europe does the same too.

IamWonderful:
Which personal doctrine are you talking about, what does it benefits me if you drink wine or whatever you drink or all the verse I quoted was from my Bible? what are you trying to say because you are talking as if I am gaining anything from what you do or you don't do.

And I gain nothing whether you drunk wine or not, but allow me to drink my kai-kai in peace.
It must be from your bible that differentiate fermented from unfermented wine. No such differentiation in the standard bible.

onuman:
The same speed that the 12 northern sharia states governments used to adopt sharia criminal laws must be the same speed for the non-sharia states to use to adopt laws banning open grazing of cows in their states.

Our governors are cowards, what's stops them forming a cow police and slaughtering any cow in sight the way Hisbah police is destroying any beer bottle in sight?

jswitch:
The Nigerian constitution itself states that government must not adopt any religion as state religion. Even the penal codes exempts non- Muslims from being subjected to sharia penal codes.


But well, in Nigeria, anything goes- the laws are made by the rich for the poor alone to obey.

It because of the arrogance of the Fulanis, they feel they own the whole country and can go to other people's lands and behave anyhow they like in the name of one Nigeria, but control and restrict others that come to their lands.

Sharia law was supposed to be on the same level as customary law. It should only apply to people that subscribe to that custom or Religion. It should only cover civil matters such as marriage, divorce, inheritance, etc. But it is veering into criminal matters.

The annoying aspect is that they are only obsessed with sales and consumption of alcohol, probably because most people that sell alcohol are southerners. They are not interested in the selling of drugs such as Marijuana, codeine, tramadol, etc which are mainly sold and consumed by northerners themselves, and is a far bigger problem than alcohol.

Anyway, as a niger-deltan, I will not advice my people to go anywhere near the north outside Abuja.

IamWonderful:
Which specific people are you talking about? priest? Kings? haven't you read

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. And mind you there is difference between fermented vine and unfermented juice, so trying attribute and claim what you weren't there is mischievous.

You people talk rubbish in order to propagate your personal doctrine. What do you mean by unfermented juice? Do you even understand what fermentation means? The minute you squeeze juice out of its fruit, it starts fermenting. My wife who has very little alcohol tolerance has gotten tipsy on zobo she made and left in the fridge for 2 days. How did ancient Jews during the time of Jesus and even after unferment grape juice?

Inkling:
If it is only alcohol I will not have issue with Hisbah but arresting people because of their hair style, arresting keke with Naira Marley sticker is absurd. My brother reason am now... We are in 21st century.

They can arrest Muslims but they should leave other religion to enjoy their freedom. Those free minds outside there will be living in boundage. What is bad is bad bro

Why will you not have issue with alcohol? Don't you know that we niger-deltans don't joke with our kai-kai? It's part and parcel of our culture and religion. Ask former President Jonathan.

ItsTutsi:
lol.. the Amotekun and ESN the south created against the FG directives, are they superior to Federal law!?!?

the ban on open grazing the south governors passed.. which Federal law did they follow to effect it??

All you are doing is justifying imposing your religion on other people who don't share your beliefs in a so called secular country.

The ban on open grazing, Amotekun and ESN came into being, because the FG abdicated it's responsibly of providing security for lives and property. If the police and security forces did their jobs and stopped the killing of farmers and destruction of farmlands, there would be no need for ban on open grazing, Amotekun and ESN.

Now tell the the purpose of imposing an alcohol ban on non Muslims, apart from trying to convert them by force.

NeoWanZaeed:
Exactly my point. . Una n0 dey follow ur fake bible

And the bible you follow is the original bible? I am sorry to say, but you sound like one of those brainwashed illiterate religious fundamentalist.

My apology, I did not realise I was debating with a Muslim fundamentalist. After looking at your posts, I realise I should not be wasting my time in attempting to argue logically with you.

NeoWanZaeed:
Allow? On what basis? If i may ask

On the basis of their personal, sectarian or denominational beliefs.

NeoWanZaeed:
The point is. As a christian, em n0 suppose dey drink . But christians are defending the man as if its n0rmal for christians to dey drink beer

It's only you evangelicals that are against the drinking if alcohol, many other Christian denominations allow the drinking of alcohol. So stop forcing your own doctrine on others. You are behaving like Boko Haram or ISIS.

systematica:
For those defending christianity, what is our association with beer. Even the bible is against beer consumption. Whoever wrote this should be ashamed of him or herself being a Christian.

That is your personal or doctrinal point of view. You cannot impose your own personal doctrines on others. Some christian doctrines allow the drinking of alcohol.

ItsTutsi:
its against the constitution of kano State!!!

The constitution of Nigeria is superior to the constitution of kano state. So unless Kanu elects to leave Nigeria, it must be subservient to the Nigerian constitution.

but if we want to tow ur line and argue base on ur point, then the constitution doesn't also recognize regional security outfits like Amotekun and ESN.. why did the south insist on it!?!

Likewise, if the law creating Amotekun and ESN run contrary to the Nigerian constitution, then it too is null and void.

Besides, the objectives of Amotekun is to stop the senseless killing and kidnapping of farmers and destroying their crops. It was not specifically created for religious purposes.

and I'm not against the ban on open grazing as long as it will bring peace and has no sinister agenda.. the governor's have the right to make law and regulation that will bring peace and development to their state

But the law and regulations must be in concordance with the Nigerian constitution.

NeoWanZaeed:
I no suprise. .the fake bible wey una get, u kuku n0 dey read am

I still don't understand your problem with the bible I use whether fake or real, or if I use bible at all. Nigeria is supposed to be a secular democracy and not a theocratic state.

If you wish the north to be a Muslim state, lobby that we split the country and you will be free to turn your side into an Islamic Republic.

Ubiudumo:
This Hisbah people are acting ultra vires oo. A Christian is not amenable to their Islamic rules and it should remain like that. The North is dragging us backward and the earlier we go our separate ways, the better for all of us. The breakup will give them the latitude to practice their religion the way they like, among their people.

I never supported the break up of Nigeria because I spent 2 years in sokoto in the 80s and I was never harrased. I drank beer without fear. We had joints that we drank without being harrased.

But now I don't think we can continue like this. Why will I be harrased for drinking alcohol in Nigeria? A lot of us Niger Deltans are traditional worshippers who use alcohol (dry gin) in our rituals. So the northerners are now telling us that we cannot worship freely in the north, but they can build mosques and shout "Allahu Akbar" on the niger-delta. It just doesn't make sense.

ItsTutsi:
lol. Christians are not harrased for being Christians bro, I'm sure u know that!! They are being harrased for selling alcohol

Wike also demolished a mosque!! and why will he declare Rivers a Christian state in a secular country!?!? you can't cherry pick what suites you

Why will they be harassed for selling alcohol when selling alcohol is not against the constitution? Then in the same vain why will northerners insist on open grazing in southern states when the Governors say they don't want it.

Is not having your cake and eating it at the same time?

NeoWanZaeed:
Christians and beer na 5&6. . . . According to them. .jesu drank wine

And how is that your problem? Dem borrow your mouth take drink am?

Jabioro:
You can live anywhere in Nigeria that that is the new songs,but in them you can't live with them except you are muslim,down the south they become hostile to host and still claim right...the National assembly is sleeping

Blame the southern governors who are cowards. Imagine if Sunday Igboho was a governor, I am sure there would not be a single cow in the state not to talk of herdsmen.

ItsTutsi:
when governor Wike claimed River state is a Christian state, none of u had issues with that!!

Kano is also a Muslim state and you most abide by its rules and regulation

And Ondo state is a non open grazing grazing state and also Forest reserve state, so Fulanis must abide by its rules and regulations and leave the forests with their cows.

CoolUsername:
It won't have been the first protest at capitol hill. There have been countless protests scheduled there. This particular one spiraled out of control. But it is disingenuous to claim that the mere act of organising a protest is a call to violence. Whether you agree with the reason or not, protests are a legal right.

You mean to tell me that in the 246 years of US history, there had been protests inside The Capitol building? References please.

You mean Trump inviting his supporters to the capitol on the day the Congress was to certify the results and then telling them " We will never give up; we will never concede, We will stop the steal. We’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol…We’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones…the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country" is not a call to violence?

Did senior republicans tell Trump supporters to break into the capitol? You feel republicans are responsible for Jan 6 because of their rhetoric but you won't extend that logic to democrats. Show me where Trump told people to break into capitol hill.

Watch his speech again and tell me he is not inciting his supporters to violence.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD2UmS4i69Q

How were they supposed to "give the weak ones the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country"? From outside the capitol building?

Trump's did not call for a protest, he called for an insurrection to stop Mike Pence (who told him a day earlier that he had no powers to reject the results) and the Congress from certifying the election results. He also instructed his followers never to give up.

You're missing my point. Why are democrats allowed to support a protest that turns violent, one that, mind you, led to the burning down of a federal courthouse and dozens of deaths. Why do we then clutch our pearls when republicans do the same? The sheer hypocrisy is astounding.
Besides, the violent protests stopped the government from doing its legal duty, keeping citizens safe. But it doesn't help the narrative to care about that, does it?

You Trump cultist supporters make stupid false equivalence. We are talking about a well planned civilian coup and you are talking about a protest over police brutality. You might as well use the @endsars protest in your false equivalence. Most protests have the tendency to turn violent. Even in communist controlled Hong Kong, anti government protests in the streets turned violent.

Once again the BLM protests were not about overturning the election of Trump but about police brutality against blacks.

Is you can't prove guilt, then the accused is innocent. They can't prove that Trump colluded with the Russians the same way Trump can't prove widespread election fraud. However, the media tells us that one is a reasonable concern but the other is an attack on democracy. The real answer is that both sides are dirty liars that would do anything to discredit their opposition.

Another stupid false equivalence. How can someone compare the Mueller investigations which is part and parcel of the democratic process to an attack on the very symbol of American democracy? It seems you are ignorant that the major difference between a democracy and a dictatorship is the legislature.

You are also highly ignorant on the difference between a criminal trial and civil trial. Proving a criminal cases requires much more evidence (beyond reasonable doubt) than a civil case. Mueller simply said he did not have enough evidence to pursue a criminal case. O.J. Simson was acquitted in a criminal trial but guilty in the civil trial.

CoolUsername:
Marching with them to the capitol hill is an acceptable means of protest. Encouraging people to protest is legal. What was illegal was breaking in. A march is not an insurrection.

March to the Capitol to do what? Stop the Senate from carrying out its constitutional duty? So what happens if the Congress was unable to ratify the electoral college? will Trump continue as President without constitutional backing? This is an election that has pass through all known constitutional process.

Or maybe we can blame the dems for the shooting of Steve Scalise since the perp bought into Dem propaganda that Trump was ruining democracy.

Did the most senior democrats - Nancy Pelosi tell her supporters to shoot Steve Scalise in order to stop Trump from performing his constitutional duty? The Democrats truly feels that Trump is ruining US democracy, but they did not call their supporters to attack Trump physically.

This has to be the most partisan and biased take on a situation I've seen in recent times. Are you saying that BLM rioters didn't burn down buildings or pull down statues? Are you saying they didn't create an autonomous zone during the protest? Even with all the video evidence?

Black lives matter protest were not about stopping Trump or Republicans from performing their legal duty, it was about the decades long police brutality against blacks in America. BLM did not start with trump.

You talk about the Mueller investigation as a win when Mueller clearly started there was no evidence of collusion after 2 years of investigation. This is a fact that you can't deny.

For the umpteenth time, Mueller never said there was no evidence of collusion. What he said was that with the constraints from the justice department and the white house, he could not prove collusion. But Congress could take up obstruction of evidence against trump or he could be charged after leaving office.

CoolUsername:
My bad for using the term impeachment since it applies differently in America. However, the senate's power to convict a President, probably doesn't apply once he's left office. Not that senate will convict anyway. Like I said, political theatre.

That would be a question for the Supreme Court to decide. There are constitutional lawyers that argue both sides. It's obvious that the Senate as presently constituted and with the present atmosphere will never summon the numbers to convict a Trump. And I doubt that's the goal of the Democrats. Just like the Ukraine impeachment, the Democrats want to expose to the public and call witnesses to expose the extent of Trump's involvement in the insurgency. Most Americans (except Republicans) are appalled by the desecration of the actual symbol of democracy, which the inner chambers of the Capitol stands for.

To answer your question, if Trump shot and killed someone in broad daylight. Do you think removal from office and a ban from holding office is sufficient punishment? Because that's all the conviction will actually do.

It might not be sufficient punishment, but it is a punishment all the same. You refused to provide an answer to the man question - How do you deal with a president who commits a crime in his last days or weeks in office? What happens if a president commits a serious crime and then resigns, should his indictments and trial be discontinued because he is no longer in office? What is the remedy for a US president that is found to have committed a crime while in office, that is after he has left office?

CoolUsername:
Thanks for contributing to our conversation but you haven't added anything new. I already said that impeachment is based on the whims of congress. I don't really know who you're arguing with.

However, what is still up for debate is whether you can impeach someone who has already left office. I argued that it could lead to something like Obama getting impeached whenever republicans take hold of congress which doesn't make any sense.

You'd have seen all this if you'd read my arguments.

How do you deal with a president who commits a crime in his last days or weeks in office? What should happen if Trump actually shot someone on 5th avenue in broad daylight light few weeks to the end of his tenure? Are you suggesting that during the lame duck period, a president can steal, kill and commit any crime with no repercussions whatsoever? What happens if a president commits a serious crime and then resigns, should his indictments and trial be discontinued because he is no longer in office? What is the remedy for a US president that is found to have committed a crime while in office, that is after he has left office?

Besides this case is different, Trump was indicted (impeached) while he was in office, what is remaining is a trial to determine if he is guilty as charged or innocent.

Timiofak:
We see them every day, there is one going around Nigeria right now, might take time but Africa is sitting on a landmine from people like them

those black Americans that call themselves ”pan Africans” they are selling ridiculous conspiracies, about people like Gaddafi, like he was one big saviour, forgetting he was a dictator.

Only the foolish can fall for this things.

I am glad Dominion Systems has decided to sue Rudy Guliani for $1.3 billion. He now has the opportunity to show the whole world how the Dominion machines switched Trump's votes to Biden. They should sue Trump also.

What the interview with Dominion Chairman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qx-4g2bSc

Kittex7:
Please bro what's the app's name

Period Tracker, ovulation calender & fertility app from playstore. Get baby is also good.

Jesse25:
Am a Christian and they is nothing wrong with what those men did, apostle suleman was sitting down the only way they can snap pic with him was to kneel down beside him, my question is why are you now insulting the man of God? Yet you call your self a Christian.

Why should they kneel before a mere man? If they were kneeling for prayers, we would understand they were kneeling for God, but why kneel just to take pictures with a pastor? Can't the pastor stand up or they find chairs for the others?

Favor99:
I’m not sure what the issue here is. All the pastor did was take a picture and 2 of his congregation members kneeled to be seen in the pic. It would have been awkward if they stood.
Chiefs, celebrities, politicians take pics like this.
Nigerians and hatred and malice and TRIBALISM are like 5 and 6.

The comments here are kind of overkill for such a simple picture. Even people are here with no fear of God, quoting the Bible, when they know God knows their evil intentions

Another worshipper of men.

AmazingGoodies:
I can see a lot of comments here condeming the pastor. But the same people will see it as a show of respect when a politician is being knelt down for.

Bunch of hypocrites!

So pastors are now comparable to politicians? Anyway in Nigeria there is no difference. It's like comparing Pontious Piloted or king Herod with Jesus. Now tell me how many people knelt down for Jesus in the bible?

Worshippers of mere mortals.

Livelystone01:
Lol, now you care about facts bros?
I thought conservatives believe more social media news than main stream news outlets?
You've never called out dcatt, dapking, ono,basilio, and co for flooding this forum with their news against Biden from twitter and Facebook, including parler and and breitbart or whatever the name is.

Well, we all will be alright las las when politicians around the world are finished with us.

Conspiracy theorists live in their alternative universe with their own alternative facts. It's near impossible to pull them out of the rabbit hole.

Here is a thread on reddit for conspiracy theories that were able to escape the brainwashing and started seeing the real world.
https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/

Their stories are really interesting. Most have lost relationships with loved ones and find it difficult to function socially.

Sweetcho:
In this 2021 if a woman of age doesn't know what to do in order to prevent a pregnancy, she really shouldn't be having xes, finally if all else fails and the baby is here dont put it in a plastic bag and sell it for £2! Are there hospitals or adoption agencies or orphanages in Naija?

You talk like you have never been to niaja. Nigeria has an illiteracy rate of over 60% and worse for women. Even the so called literate are barely informed. Most girls in Nigeria have no idea of their reproductive cycle or reproductive health. So you are asking too much of the average Nigerian lady (and even guys) to know how to prevent pregnacy.

The only contraceptive method most people here know is condom, and condoms present it's own issues. Like;
It's propensity to tear (especially the cheap ones), sex might be spontaneous and no time to find one, and it's difficult to a strictly adhere to constant use in a long and stable relationship, especially when the couples live together.

In terms of contraceptives, believes Nigerians don't possess the discipline to take a tablet everyday, and girls generally believe contraceptive tablets and injection has side effects. My wife says contraceptives make women gain weight. I honestly don't know how true it is, but we use the counting/ safe days method. She has the app downloaded on her phone.

About adoption, the adoption process and laws in Nigeria is crazy. First hospitals can't take unwanted babies for adoption purposes, they don't have the rights. I know of no government adoption agency. There are some non government orphanages that do adoption, but it's crazy. I had a former neighbour while I was living in V/I that adopted a baby, she told me she was only able to adopt after a waiting period of 2 years, and had to pay more than N100,000. She said that the waiting list was very long, and the children that are in demand are those that were picked up on the roads or dropped anonymously on their door step, in which the mothers are unknown. Once the mother is known, no one will want to adopt the baby because of future legal problems. Our adoption laws are very weak.