₦airaland Forum

PHijo:
It is not a lie. Not just in America! All around the world they are against religious freedom, mostly when the victims are Christians.

So you mean that all around the world democrats are against only Christians or they are also against Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Satanists, Ogbonis, etc?

PHijo:
Freedom to worship the Democrats are hell bent on denying them. That summarises it.

Explain what you mean by freedom of worship, and host democrats are denying Christians their freedom you worship.

Also tell us if that same freedom extends to the freedom to worship Satan.

Swinger60:
No, I won't blame the old politician. what's his offence? recording his sex orgy in his phone? his phone and not public phone?

unfortunately, he misplaced his phone. Does that give the boy right to share his private video to the world?

And, to think he shared it out of his evil intention to blackmail the man.

you supporting the boy is just like supporting a thief who transfered another person's money through his phone just because the other person misplaced his phone.

You mean you see nothing wrong with a commissioner having sex orgies and recording same on his phone? This is a political office holders with a wife and children at home.

OK. What will you say if the commissioner was female instead of a man. Would you still say "what's his offence?" If a woman commissioner with a husband and children at home is shown in a sex orgy with other men?

I am sure you are one of those that go to church every Sunday and form "holier than thou" in matters of fornication, adultery, abortion, gayism, and other moral crimes.

Awoo88:
make mistake put 2million for account. Both of us will be victims. part of the money will be used for my defence. Two years letter we will still be going to court to determine if indeed I withdrew the money or was defrauded too

Don't mind them, that is why I say corruption and illiteracy is the bane of the Nigerian judicial system.

The charge sheet is rubbish;

"That you, Adetunji Tunde Oluwasegun, sometime between the month of July, 2020 and 21st of August, 2020 at Ilorin, Kwara State, within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court dishonestly took the sum of N2,000,000.00 (Two Million Naira), property of Sherifat Omolara Sanni, which she erroneously transferred to your bank account 0008383333 domiciled with Guaranty Trust Bank plc, without her consent and thereby committed an offence contrary to Section 286 of the Penal Code and punishable under Section 287 of the same Penal Code"

Where did the defendant see the Sherifat Omolara Sanni before you talk of him dishonestly taking her money? This at best should have been a civil case whereby the defendant is given time to refund the money.

The the judgement is absurd. The convict is being punished 3 times for the same offence.
1. Pay a fine.
2. Go to jail
3. Return the money.

The judgement itself reeks of corruption.

Then what is it with these accused confessing and pleading guilty to crimes without the presence of their lawyer? A standard accused must be read his rights before arrest and interrogation, his rights to a lawyer and a right to remain silent.

Swinger60:
Even if the video was real, What reason do the boy have for posting it in the internet? He gave him 40k for picking his phone and returning it. what else does he want? why post his private video to the world?

A crime is a crime. Leaking someone's s. e. x picture or video is a crime, let him face his punishment.

Why not save some anger and blame on the old politician having and recording his sex orgy. I just don't understand why you expend all your anger on the poor boy.

simplyOJ:
Greed killed the guy. By the time he is out of jail, he will get sense..

You found someones phone, he did well by returning it but after criminally downloading what does not concern him & the owner magnimousely gave him 40k In appreciation, but alas, 40k no do you

Imagine if someone found such a phone or laptop in the US concerning a politician or any of his relatives.

koonbey:
So, you, as a lawyer, would advise your client to go forward to defend charges of blackmail and extortion as opposed to defamation?

Do you even know what the penalties are for each of those offences?

This is obviously a soft landing negotiated to give each party an out.

Don't make declarations on legal issues based on what you watch in Suits or Boston Legal.

I never claimed to be a lawyer, and don't have to be a lawyer to know that this whole case including the judgement is against natural justice. Nigerian justice system is skewed towards protecting the rich and powerful, while oppressing the poor and weak.

First an for most the sentence is too severe for "defamation of character" case. Millions of characters are defamed each day in the print and electronic media everyday, even here on nairaland, and I have never seen anyone sentenced to one year imprisonment for it. If a simple defamation of character offense for a first time offender that willingly confessed instead of wasting the courts time is one year, then I wonder what other crimes like fraud and corruption will carry. So if he had not confessed, he would have been sentenced 5 years without the option of a fine abi?

Secondly, he was not accused of stealing the phone, he was not accused of violently threatening the politician. He only blackmailed the politician, because he thought that Nigerians hold their political office holders accountable and he could blackmail him for money. Mind you if this was a sane country, it's either the blackmailer would be rich or the politician would be ready to end his career. I am not justifying the blackmail, but if the poor man is facing the consequences of his crimes, the rich should also be made to face the consequences of their actions. Imagine, a politician caught in an orgy on video and his excuse is that it was faked. He should have resigned or be fired the very next day.

Finally such blackmail is common place even the the Western world. Blackmailers, jealous boyfriends/ girlfriends and online junk bloggers like linda ikeji post such regularly, and I don't see the police and the justice system come down so tough and quick on them. You think if it was linda ikeji that posted such nude pictures of the politician, you think the man, the police and the justice system would be able to be able to harass he to confess to "defamation of character" charge?

tit:
Why did the foolish man naked himself?
Who naked am?
Did he carry ashawo?

They should release the poor boy immediately

Exactly.

I am sure the police tortured the poor guy to get the useless confession from him. Imagine the very stupid and senseless confession;

I decided to superimpose one of his pictures on a sex background to force him to negotiate a settlement with me.

How can such an "illiterate" superimpose a picture of the chief on a sex background? Even Hollywood film editors with sophisticated equipments would find it difficult doing such a perfect editing job.

Then the charge"defamation of character" is a farce. I am sure the guy did not employ the services of a lawyer. A lawyer newly called to the bar would destroy the case. Blackmail and extortion - yes, but defamation of character - hell no.

After viewing the actual video, I confirmed that the boy was wrongly accused and charged. If you Look in the mirror at the headboard of the bed, you will see a reflection of the old man receiving what looked like a BJ. Confirming the video was real and authentic. There was no editing anywhere.

PDPGuy:
By February 28, I’ll hold you to your word

PDPGuy:
BTW, there is NO provision in the US constitution for the military to take over governance.

Even if Martial law is invoked, the elected civilian leadership still takes charge of national affairs.

You seem to have time, bandwidth and effort to waste. He is one of the trolls that have taken over this thread.

Can't seun do something about the nuisance that is spoiling this thread? He is derailing and demeaning a thread that had been great and discouraging people like me stop participating.

I realise he is just seeking attention and advice people to simply ignore him, but then he continues to spam the thread ceaselessly.

Can't they ban is IP or IPs so he stops creating annoying monikers.

JESHAL:
She's loved by we conservatives and some liberal

I would like you to list the attribute that makes conservatives love the former escort. Those attributes you want your daughter or wife to emulate.

JESHAL:
Conservativism is not dogmatism or Religion
We don't judge and we accept people
We welcome gays, former escorts,former leftist, sinners
We are a platform of love

This only applies to European Conservatism. The US version of conservatism is religious extremist, dogmatic, homophobic, nationalist, sexist, racist, anti education, intolerant, promote violence, etc. In fact I see no difference between them and Boko Haram.

You don't judge former escorts, but you judge former lawyers, academic doctors and professionals who became first ladies, because they are democrats?

OneTemplate:
Oga forget the long story. Are you from Lagos?If yes do you drive in Lagos daily? Abeg tell us that first and we continue the convo from there.

In my opinion Nigeria is cursed with too many citizens who love the sound of their own voice instead of the suggestion of real solutions to problems others face that they know nothing about yet are willing to comment on forcefully and ignorantly.

If you are faced with the scenario of leaving home this morning and not knowing if you will make it back home today or end up in a mortuary somewhere, because of the actions of a lawless driver, then perhaps you would not be arguing obdurately and needlessly here like the attention-seeking DJ Witch and her government-hating fans.

I drive in lagos, and in fact have driven in lagos for over 30 years. So I know far more about Lagos traffic problems than you. I was driving in lagos when fines for traffic offenses rose from a few thousand naira to hundreds of thousands of naira. Did that stop or even reduce traffic violations? I was driving in Lagos when mandatory psychiatric evaluation and treatment was imposed on one way driving offenses, Did that stop or even reduce traffic violations? Do you think this new law of auctioning cars that are found driving one way will stop or reduce cars driving way? Your guess is as good as mine.


You don't cure a disease by treating the symptoms while leaving the root cause of the disease. We have serious system issues, which includes lawlessness and impunity by government officials and the elite, corruption at all levels and others. Then there is the problem of terrible roads. Try driving from trade fair to LASU and see the chaos that goes on there everyday.

Until those issues are addressed and thrashed, we will continue to go round in circles.

This law will only further enrich police and LASMA officials.

JESHAL:
She's loved by we conservatives and some liberal

Out of all first ladies, it is a former escort that married her fathers mate as third wife that the conservatives love.

Says much about conservatism in America. The European conservatism is very much different in meaning to that of the US.

naptu2:
See text in bold below.




http://www.concourt.am/armenian/legal_resources/world_constitutions/constit/nigeria/nigeri-e.htm

I stand corrected. Still against the law anyway. I believe the government is putting the burned of their incompetence on the general population.
What happens to seizing or suspending driver's license or even vehicle license. What happens to punishing the actual offenders instead of the owner. Most cars owners don't drive themselves and employ driver's. You mean I send my driver to go on an errand, he drives one way and my car get impounded and auctioned, while the driver goes scot-free?

Tonnyray:
Really?
I don't know about you but I do.

I am not talking of individuals but a group of people. All social animals including humans tend to follow a leader.

You see the effect of Trump on his followers. He tells them to break the law, they enthusiastically follow.

plaindealer:
Obey the law and they won't impound and auction your car.

Obey the law, simple.

The Lagos State government or any other government don't have the powers to impound and auction your car. That's is against section 44 (1) of the Nigerian constitution, which states and I quote;

44. (1) No moveable property or any interest in an immovable property shall be taken possession of compulsorily and no right over or interest in any such property shall be acquired compulsorily in any part of Nigeria except in the manner and for the purposes prescribed by a law that, among other things -

(a) requires the prompt payment of compensation therefore and

(b) gives to any person claiming such compensation a right of access for the determination of his interest in the property and the amount of compensation to a court of law or tribunal or body having jurisdiction in that part of Nigeria.

How can people obey the law when the government itself is lawless.

plaindealer:
The fact that other people are breaking the law doesn't mean you too have to break the law.

Leadership. People tend to follow their leader - whether for good or for bad. I call in role modelism. You role model could be your father or mother, politician, religious figure, historical figure, etc. In Nigeria most of our role models are politicians or rich men of questionable character and wealth.

You don't have to steal or rape because other people are doing the same thing.

People do infact steal or rape if their role model encourages it. People even commit suicide at the prompting of their role model

Just obey the law as a good citizen.

It impossible to obey the law when the lawmakers and law executors don't obey the law.

plaindealer:
Thank you.

Some Nigerians are just too lawless for their own good, they go to other countries and obey their laws, but never in Nigeria because Nigeria is their jungle where they get to do whatever they want, disobey laws as much as they want then turn around to shout and yell that other countries are better than Nigeria.

Very mind bugling.

Why do you think Nigerians go to other countries and obey their laws but the minute the land at Murtala Mohammed Airport, they become lawless.
The simple answer is that in those countries, no one is above the law. Everyone is subject to the law irrespective of class, connection or position.
Here is Nigeria the law only applies to poor people or people without position or connection.

First of all I support D.J. switch, why? Because they would only impound the cars of poor struggling Nigerians. Big men like senior members of the armed forces, police and paramilitary, senior political leaders, even ordinary rich business men and religious leaders (who have police escorts anyway) drive one way and break traffic rules without the risk of being arrested, not to talk of being prosecuted.

If Lagos State government wants to be tough on traffic offences, why not be tough also on corruption offences. I would support impounding cars that drive one way if Lagos State government pass the death penalty for corruption and political violence.

PstDapo:
Voters supression, How?
Consent decree in Georgia was to prevent verification of mail signatures to determine fraudulent votes
Voting rights must be equal and constitutional binding for all citizens before the rules of law , no special privilege or treatment for any group whether minorities or majorities

We are all equal before the law and constitution

You mean you don't know that most of the voter suppression methods employed by Republicans are meant to disenchenfrise black and minority voters, or most of the districts that Trump want their votes cancelled are mostly black dominated districts. This is like using the back door to stop blacks from voting.

PstDapo:
To what decree are the minorities communites especially blacks affected by white nationalist,are they killed, tortured,bullied,I need statistics to be very objective

You mean you are oblivious of traumatic history of blacks in America. You are blind to the fact that blacks were killed, tortured and bullied for well over 400 years.

Statistically a black man is far more likely to shoot and kill another black man than even a police or white man

Also Statistically a black man is more likely to be poorer, less educated and less healthy than a white man. A black man is 5 times more likely to die from coronavirus than a white man. Why is it that these statistics do not worry you at all, but only those that put the black man in bad light to justify police profiling and violence.

PstDapo:
Has the FBI indicted him at all?

No one has made any claim the the FBI has indicted him. It is you that claimed " the FBI who knows better cleared President Trump with ANY CONNECTIONS to the Capitol Bldg "riot" and have released their findings".
I am only asking for the link to the released findings.

MaziAlaye:
But the FBI who knows better cleared President Trump with ANY CONNECTIONS to the Capitol Bldg "riot" and have released their findings. This was PRE PLANNED and had nothing to do with Trump.
Even CNN (your source of Truth) said it was pre-planned and has nothing to do with Trump

Can you do us a favour and give the link where FBI cleared President Trump with ANY CONNECTIONS with the Capitol insurgency?

Mintum:
Biden fan = Stupid

So if a Biden supporter is caught stealing in washington and he says that Biden sent him, you will just believe him that Biden sent him without asking when and how Biden sent him?

If we have video clips of Biden saying come to Washington on a particular date, and point out what to steal and how to steal it. Then gives a speech the morning of that day and command "go ye now and steal"

And after they steal the items and are caught by the police, they then tell police that it was Biden that commanded them to steal as their leader.

Would you then exonerate Biden of any blame?

BraniacX:
what load of horseshit is this? A daft slowpoke who does not have one iota of sense comes and rewrites history saying the Roman empire was destroyed by progressivism and you who is supposed to be more educated than the nincompoop didn't even bother to proofread or fact check and went ahead to congratulate him making you his fellow idiot by default that is how trump was able to recruit the lot of you into his cult! When my pastor preaches I harras him with questions so much so that he has learned to avoid me, you just pick an idol and place him above reproach and refused to question all the claims he manufactures from his arse and you claim to be educated? You should refund your parents the expenses on your education! You failed to learn to think critically

This video describes exactly what you are talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a_6pwTO_gk

Serene123:
I learnt from his experience.

Your are better off learning from a wider range of experiences than a single experience that agrees with your opinion. A wider sample of experiences as shown by majority of the advice here will show you that over 90% of such experiences don't end well.

And the best thing to do is stay back and think, analyse the situation. Rushing to end the relationship immediately may not be the right idea cos everything staring me on the face are ASSUMPTIONS.

The relationship at the moment has ended (albeit temporarily from what you wrote ). Your fiancee has asked you to give her a break to sort out here mental health . I wander why she did not sort out her mental state before saying yes. What's even wrong with her mental health? I hope she would not need yaba left admission to cure her mental health.

Marriage is different from boyfriend /girlfriend. During the wedding you make a vow to God and all present that you will keep and honour the other person till death do you part. You should never ever marry a person who is not 100% ready to honour that vow.

I have been thinking. Okay right now I end the relationship.

Why did I end the relationship?
My babe is cheating on me.
How did I know she is cheating on me?.

I never accused her of cheating because you presented no proof. What i accused her is not respecting your relationship enough to stop calling, chatting and relating with her "bestie" who happens to be a man. I have known ladies and even men who abandon all family and friends because of their husband's/wife's wishes

On Xmas day she was out with a guy who always call her.

I don't really know how that sound to u?.

I am am staying back for now to clear my head

On chrismas day kwa? That sounds disrespectful from a fiancee. It shows she values her "bestie" more than you.

Maybe you too should have gone out and splash money on a female "bestie" on Xmas day, instead of being lonely or staying at home to watch DSTV.

binarykid:
God bless that married man! I wish I can do same and have the talk with you.

You see everybody here shouting break up! end it! she is cheating! bla bla bla hmmmm. It is true that every situation is peculiar but we can still pick certain similarities from each situation.

I know the feeling of even imagining that your babe is cheating on you, 1million thoughts would flood your mind from different angles. It is even worse when it is someone you truly love. I have seen relationships crash based on assumptions, infact I know a guy that practically added his fingerprint on his lady's phone and can call this lady over 50times a day whenever she is out of the house cos of suspision (its usually a crazy feeling to deal with). The lady was actually innocent on all claims but had to save some of her male friend's name with female names cos explaining to the guy that there was nothing makes no difference and dragging the phone even makes it worse. Even with all the access the guy had to her phone, he still felt insecure and would always look for something. (insecurity grows)

You are the one in the situation and only you can make the decision for yourself cos you know the level of relationship/understanding you have and have built with your babe. I will still suggest you have a heart to heart with her. [Get her to introduce you to this 'friend'] analyze her response and make your decision whether to trust her or not. Don't allow the ongoing DNA scandal becloud your mind.

I am certain that even with the 'space' your mind would still wonder about where she is or what she is doing. While someone is around also trying to warm her way into your heart. Don't lose a 'supposed' good girl on the platter of assumptions.

I hope you make the best decision for you.

All this your "turanshi" failed to address the koko issue. Why would a fiancee keep a male bestie and be receiving gifts and money from him? Is her man's friendship and financial status not enough for her?

Serene123:
A married man dropped his number here and we spoke at 3am till 6 am.
He told me he has similar situation like mine. Ended his relationship cos of assumptions due to calls he was seeing.

He spoke to me maturely and while he was speaking, I saw my own self and my errors. They are happily married.

He advise I give it time. That's what I am doing

Any you think most of us men giving you advice here are unhappily married or single?

Serene123:
I didn't expect less when I came here. Nairalanders will never tell you to work out stuff.

I have digested the whole comments and decided to give her time to think.

You seem to align with what you want to hear, which are the opinions of mostly female readers who are talking from the their own experience and perspective.

Most guys giving you advice have passed through this exact same scenario. I also had a serious girl friend that told me she had a guy friend, she talks to and visits regularly. Still the same excuse "he is only a friend". I told her to cut it and I don't tolerate male unrelated friends. She told me I should not control her. I only heard rumours that she visited him after I banned her not to. That was the end of the relationship. Mind you this was a 3 year relationship and I truly loved her. She came to her senses three weeks later and came to beg for forgiveness. Me, I don't forgive because I warned her of the consequences before she she decided to to go over to the guys place. If she would not listen to me on such a critical thing while we are dating, is it after we marry that she will obey me?

You will learn the hard way.

BraniacX:
I had previously sent him a link to the video to help deradicalize him but you know what they say about a dog whose time to die has come not hearing its master's whistle

This video below explains the mental state of black Trump supporters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7qB-WVxX4Y

Timiofak:
Patriot too where America or Nigeria?

if you are patriot too Nigeria

enjoy it ooo, enjoy capitalism

The real way Dangote monopolies the cement business and bribed to have border opened for only his goods, and have only his cement used in government projects, pushing a bag of cement from around 2700, to 5k

While still paying the same rubbish/minimal wage to the labour producing. Thereby turning the rest to his personal income/share value, accumulating a whooping net worth of 17 billion dollars. Whereas 70% of the people in his country are below the poverty line

True capitalism.

rubbish, big rubbish.

Capitalism as a failed big time in Africa and Asia

but when we talk about socialism, conservatives quickly too jump Cuba and Venezuela

while outright forgetting countries that adopted parts of socialism like Canada and most parts of Europe

Capitalism is a scam, told to small-time startups, without telling them that 60% of startups are doomed to fail.

Big Scam. Trump doled out a huge $2 trillion bailout to US businesses, mainly big corporations. Biden is set to sign a $3 trillion stimulus package, and conservatives belch out that US is practicing capitalism. In 2008, when the banks plunged the US and consequently the whole world economy into a crash and recession. The obama administration gave the same banks trillions of dollars. When the airline industry is in trouble, the US government would bail them out with billions of dollars. So companies make profit, it's a testimony of the goodness of capitalism. But when they fail, it's capitalism now involves public money.

Activist001:
I expected you to post this here and you didn't fail. Who told you I intend to moving to Canada?

If you think Joe Biden can change the USA and make it better, I've got one mansion in Banana Island to dash you. Lol.

But a 2004 version of Trump disagrees with you. He thought the Democrats make the economy better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRndMiVIB-w