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Righteousness89:


Being a Grandson or First son of an Evangelist or Pastor does not mean Salvation..
It's a Personal decision..

No Matter Where the First wife is or Whatever Happened,They can Reconcile .

As Long as she is alive! She is His Rightful Wife..

I Pray they Both Reconcile..

If he reconciles with his first wife, what happens to the second, third and forth wives? What happens to Precious and the 4 litte children, who would take care of them?

AlfaSeltzer:
The same one you are using to create new tribes: niger delta, southsouth, etc. Whatever next.

Were they created through a referendum? Why are you guys so obsessed with Niger Delta and South South? Small time now, it's you guys that always accuse others of interfering in Biafra/igbo affairs.

afube:
o give me a break ! while you at it, please remove the dagger you buried behind Ndigbo's back....treacherous people.

Why is it that in your mind everybody betrays Ndigbos? There is no tribe or race that you guys have not accused of betrayal. Isn't there a name for a mental condition, where the patient feels the whole world is out to get him or her?

PROUDIGBO:
Then stop making wild allegations if you don’t have the balls to call for a referendum to settle the issue once and for all! You probably know what the outcome would be, and the domino effect it will set off!

What concerns me with a referendum. When my people needed a referendum in 1962, we got it without dragging you guys along.

Ok, I agree I don't have the balls to call for a referendum. Does that make you now feel like a superman?

The lame excuse that referendum isn’t in the ‘Fulani’ constitution wouldn’t fly! Constitution was made for man, and not the other way round!

You should be ashamed that you are governed by a fulani constitution and by a fulani man. Is that not double tragedy? To make matters worse, you and your people carry a Fulani given zoo passport, and is identified as a zoo citizen all over the world.

PDJT:
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-Just pretend to respect other people’s God’s given rights and you will go a long way in life. That’s all I can say to you, as I’m not remotely interested in your crude back and forth argument and building of your straw-man.

Your God's given rights does not depend on me. It entirely depends on you and your people. Follow the political process or carry arms. These are the only way colonized and conquered people had gained independence since palaeolithic times.

I care less whatever you do. I am only involved because it's you people that dragged others and me into what ordinary should not concern me.

AlfaSeltzer:
Trash.
Call a referendum if you are sure.

With which laws will a referendum be called?

PDJT:
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-How can I have a civil conversation with you, when you don’t know the difference between “think” and “thing”?

When you start picking minute typos, due to the fact that I am using a phone to type, then it's obvious you have nothing to say.

-Anyway, most of you who are willing to kill in order to keep your fellow Africans in a colonial entity are only suffering from the deep-seated inferiority complex entrenched on your souls by those racist Europeans of past centuries.

You people suffer from what is known as cognitive dissonance. You call Europeans racist, but most of you IPOB guys are living in Europe. You insult the British for creating the zoo, but your headquarters is in Britain (the zoo keeper's headquarters ). You guys hate Yorubas and anything Yoruba, but you migrate to Yoruba land in droves on and a daily basis. You guys claim to hate the Zoo, but when you were given the opportunity to leave the Zoo, you guys begged to remain.

-Just pretend that Mazi Nnamdi Kanu is a “White” Man from Europe; perhaps then, most of you will start respecting his and millions of others wishes.

What has kanu achieved for his igbo people to elicit respect? He only succeeded in bringing ridicule to an otherwise intelligent and hardworking igbo race. Making noise all over Social media is not an achievement.

muykem:
Igbo major reason for Biafra agitation is because of Niger delta oil. They will vote against any independent that exclude niger delta region. That's simple truth, take it or leave it.

The whole world knows Niger Delta will never go with the igbos into their Biafra, except deluded Kanu and his IPOB goons.

PDJT:
-He is in order. It was United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland that created the Zoo called “Nigeria”. Abi na your papa create am?

How does he think the United Kingdom can decreate the zoo? Colonize Nigeria again and then grant us another independence, this time separately?

When Britain was leaving, they gave the 3 regions the option to separate, you chose to remain in the zoo. You even refused to include a separation clause in the constitution.

Even the Biafra you are talking about (former Eastern Region) is a creation of the British, so unless you are talking about each tribe or sub tribe returning to our pre-colonisation state, you don't know know what you want.

PDJT:
-Mazi Nnamdi Kanu founded and registered IPOB in United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And it’s still registered under his name till tomorrow.

-The Zoo and Desperation.

It was registered in United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, BUT was it registered in Nigeria?

Maybe, he wants to gain independence from United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

2020Experience:
How Ken Saro-Wiwa sabotaged Aburi Accord— IPOB Founder

“He told General Gowon that the non-Igbo in Eastern Nigeria did not want to be joined with the Igbo in the same region and did not want Biafra.

This is one fact IPOB has refused to accept. They are obsessed not only with the whole of South South joining their Biafra, but also want to take Benue with them.

The thread itself is misleading, it was not Ken Saro-Wiwa that sabotaged the Aburi Accord, it was S.I.A. Akenzua(former Oba of Benin).

After Gowon came back from Aburi anf signing the Accord, S.I.A. Akenzua(former Oba of Benin) wrote a memo to General Gowon, opposing the accord and asking him not to implement the accord, because he concluded that the Aburi provisions of a weak center would eventually lead to disintegration of the country.

Gowon then summon a meeting of the regions (now provinces ), chaired by H. A. Ejueyitchie(Secreatray to the federal government) to discuss the matter. The Aburi Accord was opposed by all other regions except the Eastern region. It was after the meeting that General Gowon issued Decree 8 on 10 March 1967 which gave the federal government more powers over the regions than it has ever had in the history of Nigeria.

So I don't understand what concerned Ken Saro-Wiwa in all these.

Dedetwo:
Who would waste any precious time to call you dunce when you have proven the instance from your posts? If the foreign governments whom silly Nigerian government will rush for arms and equipment understand the plight of IPOB, they will not supply the weapons to Nigeria as they foolishly did in 1967. I know if you were given a century to figure it out, it will look a water poured on a stone.

The way foreign governments understands the plight of Rohingya people of Myanmar, the Kurds of Turkey, the Catalans of Spain, the Uighurs of China, The Sahrawis of Morocco, and lots of others.

Just start the conflict and you will find out whether foreign governments will sell arms to Nigeria or not.

Dedetwo:
Mumu person.

The German parliament and government shall remember it and oppose the shipment of G-3s and Mercedes Benz trucks to Nigeria for military use as they did in 1967. Only moronic dunces navigate to this forum to vomit craps on what they know nothing about.

Just because of a few IPOB boys making noise. You must live in the matrix.
Arms business is all about money - cash and carry. The same arms dealer sells to both parties during a war.

I wonder why you guys don't get it and can never get it. Germany, US, UK, Russia, Israel, UN, UK, AU, ECOWAS, Hague, etc, cannot grant you independence. Only the Nigerian state, either through a political process or war can.

soulpeppersoup:
No businessman even the illiterate ones that reason like you.

If you go to church, you will know that church is not all about prayer. In fact, it's more to teaching, preaching, lecturing, admonishing, etc.

You can take up a thread on nairaland to teach the people you want to free business and business ethics.

What do you think makes people waste their time in church?

Start teaching people how to succeed in business and see them leave pastors to follow you if they start becoming a success.

Who want to be poor?

Desperation and promises of instant or unmerited wealth (prosperity). The only catch is obey the G.O and ensuring he lives a flamboyant lifestyle by paying tithes, offerings and gifts; no need of hard work or need to acquire skills or education.

Nobody wants to be poor. But the reality is that Nigeria is a poor nation, with over 60% living below the poverty line. That makes then vulnerable to men of god, ritualists, cult groups, scammers and others who promise instant wealth for a small fee.

Mandeyy:
Just understand my point: he's a hypocrite just like the two pastors you mentioned. So, he has no moral justification to correct a pastor's sermon on marriage, since he's guilty of that. That's hypocrisy.

According to your views, no one is justified to criticize any other person. Even have no moral justification to criticize Buhari as you would have stolen something or dishonestly obtained something at least once in your life.

Besides, the two pastors you mentioned have never attacked another person's sermon on marriage. They don't court for controversy. He that claims to be holy must first of all remove the log of woods from his or her own eyes.

It's seems your grouse is that he dared to attack pastors, who you see as extra special breed of humans. If the attack is on a politician or a socialite, you would not have mind.
First he had never claimed to be holy, he is only against so called men of god fleecing poor or desperate people to enrich themselves.

The more he continues to falsely correct pastors, the more he ridicules himself. This is because his present "wife" is another man's legal wife.

What do you mean he false correct pastors? Had Benny Hinn himself not repented of tithes and offerings and declared it to be a false doctrine? (after benefiting from it for more than 4decades.)

See Benny Hinn confessions as regards tithes and offerings;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TQQirZI9Eo


What has his criticism of tithes got to do with his wife? You guys are all over the place arguing senselessly just to defend mere men like yourself.

Bluebyrd:
The President of the United States has a duty to keep the nation from panicking while orchestrating the necessary response to any national emergency.

THAT is what Trump did.

Then what is Trump’s whole campaign based on?

"Elect Joe Biden and your streets are going to burn. The criminals will be attacking your houses. The suburbs will be abolished."

This is a guy who’s worried about causing panic? Come on.

folu4real:
Flesh has enter him when he was uttering those words. Our Lord Jesus Christ was criticize, spat on, crucified still yet he kept on telling God to forgive us. Most of this so called pastors are of the flesh not of Spirit. That is why when I go to church I discuss my situation to God not to pastor.

Imagine Jesus Christ himself was criticised daily, abused and eventually criticised, but we did not hear any of his disciples threaten to kill anybody, but here we have mere mortal men, that claim to be preachers and followers of Jesus, encouraging their followers and spiritual sons, to threaten to kill unbelievers because of mere insults.

Obviously the Pastors are more interested in tithes and offerings and are ready to kill to maintain their fleshly demands.

pryme:
Was Trump the one that conducted the study of the Hydroxychloroquine on Corona virus?
Or did Trump invent the drug?

No Trump was not the one that conducted the study of the Hydroxychloroquine on Corona virus invented the drug, but he was the one that prescribed it for the cure and treatment of covid19.

Okwyjesus:
It's you that is blind that need to see. Blind in and out that feels he's wise. l have been paying tithe for over 10yrs. And in 10yrs after graduation l have 2 personal cars, 1 office car, married with kids, build at home last year and you are telling me not to pay tithe.

Are you sick?

That's exactly the problem with Nigeria - unexplained wealth.
Ten years after graduation (that's 9 years after service and getting employment ), your were able to buy 2 cars (state of the art I suppose), marry, have kids and build a house. All these while paying 10% to some pastor. I assume you should have some other family obligations to other family members as well. I also assume you are paying all relevant taxes.

Even in more prosperous advanced nations, this would be a near impossible feat, not to talk of a poor economy like ours. It takes at least 20 years mortgage to be able to afford to own a house.
So, how are you able to achieve these feats without engaging in crime or some other illegality?

asamaigho:
are those mere words more worrisome than herdsmen and bh tearing the country to pieces? or are they more life threatening than d death sentence on the kano musician?
most of ur likes major on minors and ignore d majors and dats hypocrisy.

What's major to you is not necessarily major to another person. You cannot impose your own major on another person. If Boko Haram and death sentence on the Kano musician is that important to you, then by jove, start a campaign or advocacy group to protest these issues. People of like interests would join you.

To daddy Freeze his own major interests are men of god scamming the helpless and hopeless population. He is not interested in your own interests.

Similarly Oby Ezekwesili major interest was the Chibok Girls and she formed BBOG group to advocate for their return. Leah Shaibu was not her interest. Leah Sharibu on the other hand is Reno Omokri's major interest and not Chibok Girls. So nothing stops you from protest issues that interests you, but don't expect you can force others to protest on your behalf.

TreaSuretunde:
HELLO, pls, he does not have any right.

You mean that he does not have any right to criticize men of god. Ok, do you have any rights to criticize Buhari, Tinubu or any other politician? Afterall, they are political god father to some other people.

TreaSuretunde:
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS DADDY FREEZE BUSINESS WITH PAPA PREACHING.

It's his business to expose scammers. Besides, Nigeria is a country that says it practises free speech. You can't threaten to kill people for airing their personal opinions.

asamaigho:
Ah com'on na.....he said ''IF' u ever insult my father 'AGAIN'i will deal with u, i will arrest u '' y are u making a mountain out of a moth-hill? stop taking thing out of context and making special meaning out of them.
His reaction is not diff from dat of a son whose father is insulted.
For me people are just being hypocritical.
Somebody has been sentenced to death by a religion in this country against the constitution of d land, but ur likes have lost their voice all of a sudden.
but are quick to shout to d heavens when OYEDEPO opens church for service in d first week of lockdown, but when muslims burn down police station during lockdown ur voices are mute. when fulani herdsmen kill innocent villagers during lockdown ur voices are nowhere to be heard.
HYPOCRISY IS IRRITATING.

True. His reaction is not different from someone who has adopted Al-Baghdadi as a father.

You are conveniently oblivious of these quote by pastor Ibiyeome;

I curse the day you were born. I will tear you into pieces you bastard

desiredhome:
Christianity is practical, let the light so shine in you.... that people will see....if 50% of the people claiming to be Christians were true Christians, Nigeria would've been better ooooo,
Today even kidnapper will tell you I am a Christian, ritualist will say I am a Christian. ... ..... So many lost sheep

50% ke. Even 10% and Nigeria would start changing for the better.

Christianity in Nigeria has been reduced to "kalo kalo", you put in money in expectation of a jackpot. The more money you put the more your expected rewards. That's why you see many betting companies springing up in every street corner competing with redeem church. The poorer people become, the more they flood churches and betting shops in hopes of hitting jackpot.

Solutionchima:
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Christ humbled himself to death cos it was a determined council of God.
Go to Acts chapter 5. start from vs 1, you will understand what Ananais and his wife got for lying to peter. In 1st corth.5:5 paul prayed that someone be delivered to satan.
so you are still a learner. Christianity isnt going anywhere with your type; its the violent that takes it by force mtt.11:12

You guys are becoming worse than Boko Haram and ISIS. All that seperates you now is a violent radical leader that will instruct you to start bombing and killing in the name of Christ.

LadyExcellency:
The Church is the people. Is it the Pastors and General Overseer that work in Cannan City?

According to the gospel of tithes seeds and offerings, the church is the General overseers.

Please, is there any Church that forces the members to pay tithe?

Yes. By threats and intimidation.

What are the penalty for not paying these so-called "mandatory tithe"

Curses, calumny and hell fire.

Members are not complaining while riffraff on the net are gossiping on what they have or made no contribution.

The same way magas don't complain while people that have made no contribution to G-boys gossip about them.

ronyman:
Define a fake pastor bro

A Pastor who preaches the gospel of tithes and offerings as the means to salvation

Organs:
Na so we go dey siddon look? I am still wondering what we can unite on to actually start a riot and sack all these leaders. Else no way forward.

You want Yoruba man to unite with an igbo man, you want an igbo man to unite with an Fulani man, you want a Catholic to unite with a pentecostal, you want a pentecostal to unite with a Muslim, you want a rich man to unite with a poor man - all mission impossible.

Mandeyy:
He even divorced his first wife. He's just a hypocrite!

The same way pastors Chris Oyakhilome and Okotie divorced their first wives.

Now, who is a hypocrite now?

Organs:
My broda, it is actually "Impunity" and we ourselves taking sides with our own biases. A pastor called someone bastard on the pulpit and guess what, he will get away with it cos he is a man of God. Fatoyinbo raped someone and his church members defended him. Oyakhilome was doing all sorts who said anything? If you cross the road if Oyedepos convoy is passing you can be killed and nothing will happen, even useless Buhari that i voted in 2015 under GEJ defended bokoharm, Ganduje collected bribe openly and he is still Gov, IBB that annulled election is still free. This Sheik Jingir in Jos dared govt to stop Jumat prayers at his mosque and see what will happen. I mean, he literally dared govt, the same thing Apostle Suleiman did, so where are we going with all of this?

Downhill. Until we learn to change our value system of greed, religious bigotry, tribalism, unmerited wealth, inverted reward system, glorification of corruption, etc, we will continue going downhill, until the system collapse.

Excellentmind:
For as long as Freeze continues to employ crude measures in addressing his grievances occasioned by envy, he will continue to get hard knock until he does the needful.

As long as it's not physical knocks but spiritual and verbal knocks, then no problem

Why will he envy other people, especially scamming pastors? Is he not living a relatively comfortable life?

Organs:
Bros, This is what is killing us in this country. Oyedepo and the rest are all scammers causing hate, corruption and impunity. All the preachings and prayers what has it led to? More crime, corruption, impunity and all man fighting for himself. Leave this people abeg, they all are scammers.

Nigeria was a much more morally upright nation until Islamic and Christian fundamentalism took over. It seems the more religious we claim the poorer and more morally bankrupt we become.