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CelebritiesRe: Ese Walter Who Also Publicly Accused Pastor Fatoyinbo Of Rape Speaks by wirinet(m): 8:54am On Jun 29, 2019
Justiceleague1:
Thank you.
These women are satanic agents.
She claims the romp was CONSENSUAL,so what the hell is she saying now!?
She's just a confused bitch.
Do you realise that you were given birth to by a woman.
CelebritiesRe: Ese Walter Who Also Publicly Accused Pastor Fatoyinbo Of Rape Speaks by wirinet(m): 8:50am On Jun 29, 2019
dancewith:
You have a point and the point assume he slept with Busola as he does with his other members, that is, with her consent

However being that she was a minor then, it is rape, regardless of consent or even if she initiated the act. That is the law
Where did you get the idea she consented to the sex, especially the first encounter?

This is what she said in the interview;
Then one morning, Fatoyinbo showed up at her house unannounced. It was a Monday morning early enough that Busola Dakolo was still in her nightgown. Her mother had traveled with her sisters and were absent at service the previous Sunday. He didn’t say a word, forcing her onto a chair , speaking only to command her to do as he said. It took Busola a while to come to terms with what was about to happen, and it was why she didn’t struggle or make a fuss when he pulled down her underwear and raped her. She remembers he didn’t say anything after, left to his car, returned with a bottle of Krest and forced her to drink it, probably as some crude contraceptive. She remembers him saying.

“You should be happy that a man of God did this to you.” At this time, his wife had just given birth to their first child, Oluwashindara.
Is that you guys just hate women or you are too mesmerised by men of God. I still don't understand why you guys lie on their behalf.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by wirinet(m): 7:11am On Jun 29, 2019
Kenturkey048:
yea you are right ..pastors having sex with persons they are not married to....the difference between both is one was consensual..why the other was cajoled ...
Do you consider sextet with a minor consensual?
PoliticsRe: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m): 6:57am On Jun 29, 2019
oalandAgents2:
I have to respectfully ask non-Igbos to leave the thread so that we Igbos can objective look at the validity of IPOB's agitation for Biafra without the distortion of tribal rivalry.
I am disappointed and surprised by this your comment, it betrays the contractions within your psyche. One minute Biafra is about inability of igbos to live with Yorubas and hausas in one country, in another minute you don't want the opinions of hausas and Yorubas in your discussions. One minute you guys blame the Yorubas of not supporting your Biafra agitation, now you are saying you do not want the opinion of Yorubas. What exactly do you want?
IPOBs popularity is predicted on calling Yorubas, hausa fulanis and Nigerians as a whole all sorts of derogatory names, but you don't want other Nigerians to comment on IPOB issues.
You guys cannot go a day or even 1 hour, here on nairaland or social media without mentioning Lagos, Tinubu, Oshogbo, Yoruba in even totally unrelated topics, and you are the one accusing others of interference in your affairs? How ironic.
CelebritiesRe: Timi Dakolo Dares Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo To Sue Him And His Wife, Busola Dakolo by wirinet(m): 6:41am On Jun 29, 2019
Hurricane don't delay blow and fowl nyash don't scatter.
A torrent of worms are about to open on pastor Fatoyinbo. Here is another lady ready to challenge pastor fatoyinbo with proof

A third lady says she has been sleeping with pastor for over a year on his matrimonial bed sef!
I told him he was in no position to negotiate. Got the money, left the Randy goat with a deflated erection and checked into another room. First thing the next morning, I left for ABJ. By the way, remember my childhood friend that introduced me to COZA? I narrated my experience to her and she confessed that she was sleeping with Biodun for over a year, even on his marital bed when his wife travelled. Oga Pastor, try and deny my story publicly and see American wonder.... I still have the pictures and our conversation on tape. Thank God for technology!!!!!!

https://www.lamzat.com/2013/08/franca-another-lady-says-pastor-is.html?m=1
CelebritiesRe: Timi Dakolo Dares Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo To Sue Him And His Wife, Busola Dakolo by wirinet(m): 9:17pm On Jun 28, 2019
Adalberto:
listen to yourself bros, mood swings since that time? Do they have any meaningful evidence? Just two weeks ago that's how a stupid girl accused Neymar of raping her but thank God Neymar had lots of evidence to prove that he is not guilty. We judge do fast. RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE and we're fast to throw stones. I believe with time, the truth will surely come out
Are you now doubting the reports of her husband because you vehemently support man of God?

You will be surprised how long the psychological trauma of rape can last. Just pray your daughter never experiences rape.

Watin concern neymar with this case. Nigerians are champions at whataboutism.
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo: I Was Raped By Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Of COZA - Timi Dakolo Wife by wirinet(m): 9:15pm On Jun 28, 2019
mercyland93:
U ar so correct, just coming out to say it after many years long gone is nonsense.
If it's actually a rape, she should av long speak out immediately, at least it would be on record and would help this present revelation.

It seems to be a consensual agreement between them, she even helped his wife to take care of the newborn baby rightly in his apartment ( the said alleged offender ).
I actually did not know this man and I've never view any of his sermon, but if he actually rapped her, she should approach the law enforcement agents and not come to d social media to garner pity.

I strongly believe that if he later turned out to be one kind agberoo or a poor pastor, she would definitely not say anything till eternity but now that he is a made man, she now just want to tarnish his image.

And I don't know why some nairalanders are just throwing insult to this man without a critical thinking about it.
Fatoyinbo may actually be a randy man oooo, agreed, but just saying it now to the world is totally rubbish, and she's just trying to spoil the man's ministry.
Which media outfit would carry the story if the perpetrator of the alleged crime was an agbero or an unknown entity. It would not even make nairaland back page. There are thousands of unreported rape cases daily, but because those involved are nobodies, the stores are not heard.
CelebritiesRe: Timi Dakolo Dares Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo To Sue Him And His Wife, Busola Dakolo by wirinet(m): 9:02pm On Jun 28, 2019
Adalberto:
We don't know who's telling the truth and who is lying, but the woman in question is married, has kids and a wonderful husband.. so she should have moved on already if anything of such happened. But my question is why open up now? Why didn't she speak out immediately it happened? Is she trying to tarnish the image of the man of God? Is it publicity stunt? Does she want the mass to sympathize with her? Why didn't she go report the case legally? Why come on social media to rant? I'm not in support of rape but it's actually too late to lay such an allegation, it's arrant nonsense
Did you read the opening post or you just read the headline.

If you missed it, this is what timi dakolo wrote;
" she found her voice because she found someone to understand her
It took a while but she found the strength to tell him in detail what the endless nightmares, unexplainable withdrawals and mood swings were all about"
CelebritiesRe: Timi Dakolo Dares Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo To Sue Him And His Wife, Busola Dakolo by wirinet(m): 8:50pm On Jun 28, 2019
RexTramadol1:
This kind of painful outburst is understandable.
It's because the wife is yet to heal and it's affecting his marriage. Mood swings, unexplained behaviour and other psychological effects.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by wirinet(m): 8:10pm On Jun 28, 2019
studentofTruth:
The issue wasn't whether she enjoyed herself with the man then. (She may have even initiated it herself). The real question (and that's what will nail the man) is how old was she when they started enjoying themselves. If truly she's 17 years when it all started, then it's a case of statutory rape, and that's what the lady is banking on.
You think Timi and wife are illiterate and don't know the legal implications of the accusation? I think they have planned to bring the pastor down. If the pastor ever go to court, it is finished for him. They would open cans of worm enough to fill a bucket. I am sure they have assembled other abused girls who are prepared to testify against the pastor.
If pastor Fatoyinbo is wise, he better just rake on social media and quietly hide in his church while continuing to collect tithes from his sheep.
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by wirinet(m): 7:27pm On Jun 28, 2019
famzynet:
She may still be angry that the pastor never married her,she may want to trend. She may be the devil who wants to paint the church black.
You mean 3 different ladies wanted to use pastor Fatoyinbo to trend? Is he the only pastor in Nigeria?
Nah only him waka come?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by wirinet(m): 6:58pm On Jun 28, 2019
hisexcellency34:
Which evidence will Timi Dakolo's wife tender In court now? Where is the pant or any other evidence? Except she can describe the exact size of the pastor's rod of Moses
A professional investigative team can prove the case by questioning witnesses and collaborating events and places in the accusations. Not that I credit Nigerian police with that kind of training.
Harvey Weinstein was convicted of rapes he perpetuated decades ago, so also Bill Cosby.

The "I never had any private interactions with her beyond my pastoral duties" statement might come back and hunt pastor Fatoyinbo in court. All the prosecution lawyer has to do is provide witnesses that can attest to interactions beyond pastoral duties to discredit pastor Fatoyinbo.

I doubt the pastor will actually take the case to court, because it may open other cans of worms of the pastor's other amorous activities, but if he did, Mr and Mrs Dakolo must be ready to pay expensive legal fees.
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo And Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Rape Allegation: 5 Shocking Things by wirinet(m): 5:39pm On Jun 28, 2019
Xda59:
So will you accuse ned of rape?
Did Regina Daniels come on media crying that Ned of raping her?
If Regina Daniels was less than 18 when ned had sex with her, then it 8s statutory rape according to the law. But then someone has to report.
Do you have proof ned has had second with Regina?
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo And Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Rape Allegation: 5 Shocking Things by wirinet(m): 4:53pm On Jun 28, 2019
Xda59:
How influential was fatoyinbo 17 years ago?
I am impressed you have become defense council for pastor Fatoyinbo. I wish you could also consider the views of a 16 year old vulnerable secondary school girl.

17 years ago pastor Fatoyinbo was already a rich man, he was driving a benz car and also the pastor of his church.
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo And Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Rape Allegation: 5 Shocking Things by wirinet(m): 4:38pm On Jun 28, 2019
Oyerinde16:
This story is one sided and is very difficult to prove, how do u bring a story of over 6 years now, you did not resist, police station full Ilorin u no report, only told your brothers n sisters, are they the law. Unless fatoyinbo admits to this crime or proper investigation is done and he is found guilty by a competent court, I trash this story into the bin... Rape ko sex ni, maybe n just maybe the idiot was shouting baby harder...
With people of you mindset, always blaming the victim, how do you thing a rape victim will have enough confidence to report to the police and public after they are raped by influencial persons?
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo: I Was Raped By Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Of COZA - Timi Dakolo Wife by wirinet(m): 1:20pm On Jun 28, 2019
Chithauri:
Why bring it up now after all this years. You will be surprised it was mutual content. Because ladies of nowadays every little fling they scream rape. Let the court decide if guilty or not. some of u condemning him have done worse.
Because the alleged rape scarred her for life. She said she was disvirgined by the rape. Girls never forget who disvirgned them.
Maybe you did not watched the interview. She said she was 16 then.
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo: I Was Raped By Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Of COZA - Timi Dakolo Wife by wirinet(m): 1:03pm On Jun 28, 2019
macello4:
dis woman is a demon, don't tink she knows dat dis is man of GOD. Allow GOD to deal with him, u are too small to talk about man of GOD in bad way.
You must be less than human. Any human that watched this clip and don't feel the pain in the woman's voice has lost the right to be called a human being.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhJZ7vFSWk
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo: I Was Raped By Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Of COZA - Timi Dakolo Wife by wirinet(m): 10:42am On Jun 28, 2019
daprinceval14:
Let’s stop crucifying d man of God... if he actually did it and she didn’t come out since, she shud av relax for God to deal wit him... we need to hear frm d man of God
Everyone has a past... who knw if he has cleared with God and has b forgive.
Pls we shud nt judge and mind wat we say concerning men of God.
Only God is qualified to judge him
I was expecting you guys to come out of the closet sooner. If your teenage daughter told you she was raped by a man, will you also let god be the judge?
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo: I Was Raped By Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Of COZA - Timi Dakolo Wife by wirinet(m): 10:40am On Jun 28, 2019
bigtt76:
Ayam confused about all of these ...my take

1. You just wake up, came downstairs in night gown showing all thing
2. Heard knock on the door, asked who's that, the person responded 'Pastor Biodun'
3. She no run go cover up, instead opened the door
4. Pastor push you to chair, and was removing his belt ....she sidon der de watch am
5. Pastor off her pyant

.....does it make sense? I'm not supporting pastor Biodun oooo buh sounds some how funny

One would think the ideal thing would have been

1. You just wake up, came downstairs in night gown showing all thing
2. Heard knock on the door, asked who's that, the person responded 'Pastor Biodun'
3. She runs back upstairs to go cover up and opened the door
4. Pastor push you to chair, and was removing his belt ....she would stand up and run protesting ...ha 'Pastor why naaaa?'
You obviously have never been mesmerised by a man of God or spiritual leader. If you hold anyone with such admiration and awe, you simply freeze.
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo: I Was Raped By Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Of COZA - Timi Dakolo Wife by wirinet(m): 10:32am On Jun 28, 2019
mimilogistics:
That's what westernization and civilization has brought on us all angry

If you get raped by any man, speak up immediately....don't waste any minute talk less of hours or days or weeks or years....speak up immediately so the issue can be dealt with immediately.

Keeping quiet for too long means you either enjoyed it, condoned it, accommodated it or overlooked it, so why wait until the person that presumably raped you becomes popular and you start to claim rape after so many years have passedhuh

The law should put a clause to rape accusations; once you kept quiet beyond 1 month, then forget it.

At least go the Police or any law authority to file a claim the moment you were raped, don't wait till years because it is really stupid and just trying to gain fame from your past sexual encounter we cannot really prove if it was actually rape or mutual sex angry angry

Modern women of our time are using their past rape stories to gain fame, popularity and sympathy for selfish reasons best known to them, its not as if the past experience is hurting them...its all a facade, a pretence to be honest....why keep quiet for many years while waiting for the man to become rich and famous until you come out to claim rape, isn't that suspicioushuh If Pastor Fatoyunbo was a nobody, would she has come out to say all these without an iota of respect for her husband, marriage, kids and family image???

This is my thought on this topic, not the view of the company I am working for cool
That's why I say Nigerians lack empathy and sympathy for other humans, especially toward our fellow countrymen. How else can you explain the stealing of monies meant to save lives and watch people die without feeling guilty.

Rape cases are often very traumatic to victims, some take decades to heal, others never heal. But somehow we always blame rape victims and exonerate the rapists, principally because we worship and admire those in power or authority.
In this case, it's obvious the lady had not gotten over the alleged rape, or else, what does she hope to gain from exposing an embarrassing episode. She is successful, maritally, socially and financially. He husband is aware of the allegations and has been providing support. If coming out public is the only therapy to come to terms with the rape and heal her soul, why deny her that? After all, she is not asking for money.
CelebritiesRe: Busola Dakolo: I Was Raped By Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Of COZA - Timi Dakolo Wife by wirinet(m): 10:21am On Jun 28, 2019
AwkaetitiBabe:
Pls spare us. Is he an angel? Being a man of God does not give you permission to misbehave.

He'll probably go hang himself and congregation go scatter.

What do you expect from a church where they dress up like jezebels
Congregation scatter for where, to the contrary, congregation go increase. In Nigeria pastor is respected more than Yahweh, Jesus and holy spirit added together. The bigger the scandal the more the congregation and hence more offerings and tithes.
I am surprised that the "touch not my anointed" crew has not taken over this thread. If pastor fatoyinbo could come out stronger after the Ese Walters case, what is rape case of more than 2 decades ago.
PoliticsRe: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m): 8:56am On Jun 28, 2019
kingzizzy:
As I said before, the reason they dont want to teach Nigerian history is because they dont want people like you to be enlightened. I used an extreme example that even if it was an Igbo coup, why would anybody go and start killing men, women and children?
I already explained the sensibilities and sentiments that led to the pogrom. It was a mass action and not a planned official policy.
It is similar to the Rwanda genocide. It was the assassination of Rwandan president Juvénal Habyarimana and Burundian president Cyprien Ntaryamira, both Hutu, that led to the murder of mass murder of Tutsis, and the killing of up to a million Rwandans within 10 days. Till today no one knows who shot down the plane.
Their was a time that mostly middle belt officers under the leadership of Dimka staged a coup and killed mainly leaders of the core North. The coup was crushed but a massacre of people from the middle belt did not happen. If Dimka had been Igbo, they will start looking for Igbos to kill.
This is a wrong misinformation. For someone that claims to know history, it's a shocking statement. The only soldiers killed in the February 13 coup was General Murtala, his ADC and his driver. So I don't know where you got the " Dimka staged a coup and killed mainly leaders of the core North" from.
The handling of the fall out of the 1976 coup is in sharp contrast to the handling of the 1966 coup. In the Dimka coup, the next in command was allowed to take over. In the 1966 coup General Ironsi took advantage and overthrew the government. In the 1966 coup, all officers were tried and executed within 2 months. In the 1966 coup, Ironsi dilly dallied for 6 months before he was assassinated.

The truth of the matter is that the massacre of Igbos was not about if it was an Igbo coup or not, there was no 'Igbo coup' in 1945 or 1953 but they still found reason to massacre Igbos
I don't know anything about the 1945 and 1953 massacre, but if it was a big issue by independence, the Igbos should used that as an excuse to separate at indeoendence, but to the contrary, Igbo political leaders were at the forefront of unity.

Nigerians are prejudiced against Igbos, that's why they will move against Igbos in a way they will not against others.
I still want to find out why everyone is prejudiced against Igbos. At least there are at least 200 other tribes in Nigeria.

What most Igbos dont understand is why Nigeria wont let Igbos go their way? When an Igbo man says he is tired of Nigeria and wants his own country where he can look after himself, the same Nigerian who does not like the Igbo man will say no.


When IPOB or Nnamdi Kanu say they dont want to be part of Nigeria, they will order Soldiers to go and kill them despite the fact that they dont have weapons and didn't kill anyone. But if Fulani with their AK47 murder people, they start looking for land to accommodate them

It is time for this madness called Nigeria to end by granting Igbo their own separate country
No one is holding Igbos from going anywhere, Igbos are permitted to go anywhere they choose within Nigeria. Igbo man has not said (officially that is ) that they want to leave Nigeria. Kanu does not represent all Igbo men, his association, IPOB does not represent all Igbo men. I am sure IPOB members are not up to 1 million in Nigeria. Igbos have political and traditional rulers that represent segments of Igbos. They are yet to tell us they want to leave Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m):
kingzizzy:
This is one of the reasons they dont want to teach history, they know that if they do, it will expose the long held lies that the first coup was an "Igbo coup".

Somebody who reads history will like to know the yardstick used to call it an Igbo when Yoruba coup plotters like Ademoyega, Adeleke, Oyewole. What about Nothern participants like Captain Gibson Jalo, Captain Egbiko and Lieutenant Kpera?

By what percentage was the coup Igbo? Youruba? And Hausa? The only time a coup can be called an "Igbo coup" is if it was 100% carried out by Igbos. In this case, it was not.

Nigerians waking up to kill Igbos has been happening long before the so called Igbo coup. It happend in Jos in 1945 and Kano in 1953.


But let us look at an extreme situation. Let take that it was 100% and Igbo coup that killed the leaders of other Regions and spared that from the east. The coup was in January, the massacre of Igbos started about 6 months later

Doesnt it sound strange to you that people will start killing other people for what happend 6 months before?

Assuming a few Yorubas go and kill Governor Ugwuanyi of Enugu state, should Enugu people kill any Yoruba they serve because of what a few did?

Also, doesnt it look suspicious to you Igbos would wait 6 months to to revenge this?

The massacre was not about the coup, it was just because some people dont like the face of Igbos
It was termed am igbo coup because the masterminds were igbo, the officers that carried out most of the murders were igbo, all igbo military officers and politicians were spared in the murders and the beneficiaries of the coup were igbos. It was the perception that it was an igbo coup and the killings of their military, spiritual and political leaders that lead to anger and animosity by the northerners.

People waited six months to start killing because prior to that time, the military was in the hands of an igbo man. Any killings before the military changed hands would have been difficult. They took advantage of the counter coup, because they reason that Gowan would not crack down on them. And true to their calculations, Gowon failed to handle the situation.

You can't compare igbo republican sentiment with feudal northern sentiments. Killing of an igbo governor is not the same thing as killing the spiritual and political leaders of a feudal society. It's like an Irishman (with cheers from the Irish people) killing the Queen of England, the prime minister and the most senior English general at a go.

Finally, you should wonder, why do you think other people generally do not like igbo people? Is the problem with all other tribes and people or with the igbos themselves?
PoliticsRe: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m): 11:56am On Jun 27, 2019
superlightning:
You are referring to a colonial government that was indeed the best government Nigeria had ever had. They gave EAR to the NEEDS and ASPIRATIONS of the people. That was a Nigeria that WAS working and INCLUSIVE. The Nigeria of today isn't working. The political system is a sham. YOU KNOW THIS. stop living in denial.

Today you can't even openly aspire for Biafra let alone bringing it to a Nigerian body. Its like a taboo to them. They won't even entertain the thought of it. Who is fooling who?

Some of you actually think you are informed but in reality, you are charlatans.
The red quote is the paradox of the century. The colonial government was the best government for the British, but it was the worst government for the locals. How many infrastructures did the British build to favour Nigerians? How many schools did they build, how many universities? The only infrastructures they build was to aid their exploitation of raw materials from the hinterland to the ports. The only education they provided us apart from religious, was to train as clerks and administrative staffs to aid exploitation of raw materials and governance. No technical or science education was encouraged. We were groomed to be providers of raw materials and consumers of finished goods.
PoliticsRe: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m): 11:30am On Jun 27, 2019
superlightning:
Of course you won't see it from his context. All you do is cherry pick and rant. If its US UK EU, etc that calls Nigeria a "failed", or " fantastically corrupt" nation, you will look the other way. Hypocrites.
Calling Nigeria a failed state or fantastically corrupt is quite different from calling Nigerians animals or Yoruba Bastards or funlanis barbaric blood thirsty backward thinking power mongers. If any country's leader should spew such, it will certainly spark a diplomatic row.
Besides, these things were said in leaked personal conversations and not on official or public communication.
Christianity EtcRe: Evolution 101 by wirinet(m): 11:16am On Jun 27, 2019
omokoladejames:
Granted, there are alot of hard questions concerning Noah's flood but saying he couldn't have had the expertise to build the ark is not one of them.
The expertise is a main problem. There was no way affiliated family of 8 can build such a massive wooden boat in the time they said it took and with the technology of the time. Remember, they had no power tools and cranes to help them but only rudimentary tools.
Even today with power tools and cranes, it is still impossible for a family of 4 men and 4 women to build such a structure, from assembling and shipping the materials to site and then actually building the ship.

See this YouTube video for the challenges -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVaVbn7eIFs
PoliticsRe: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m): 9:25am On Jun 27, 2019
banom:
KANU don't insult or blackmail any body... What is happening is that he calls a spade a spade..he doesn't muddy words, he tells things exactly the way they are...which evil people like the zoo called Nigeria and their hopless inhabitants hates so much...for instance he calls Nigeria a zoo, which is 100 percent correct, he calls Yoruba media evil for always failing to write about the evils going on in Nigeria and even helping to cover it, which is also 100 percent truth, he calls hausa funlanis barbaric blood thirsty backward thinking power mongers, which is equally 100 percent truth...so where is the blackmail ? Is there anything he said that is not 100 percent truth ?
And these are your truths? If the hausa funlanis and yorubas returns their own truths about igbos, it is you that will wail the loudest.

Let's see how these truths will help IPOB achieve Biafra
PoliticsRe: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m): 8:41am On Jun 27, 2019
banom:
When I started reading through your post, I thought you are a serious person, but I finally realized you are a mischievous person who is hopelessly ignorant and uneducated... your chief motive here is to discredit NNAMDI KANU, and your tactic in achieving that is to first seem to support ojukwu in other to blind people from your dirty work... You are probably not an Igbo person. And most of your stated historic facts are wrong.

Now let me address your ignorance, you asked if NNAMDI KANU first consulted the people and sort for their mandate before agitating for Biafra....a person not enlightened enough will not understand the game you are trying to play here. To enlighten your ignorance, NNAMDI KANU is not personally agitating for Biafra, he is demanding for a REFERANDUM from the government so that the PEOPLE can decide for themselves if they want Nigeria or Biafra ....that is the ultimate mandate of the people you are asking for.... You probably don't know this...cus I can see you are not educated enough, if educated at all
Kanu does not have the authority and is not in a position to demand anything. Kanu is just a Nigerian British citizen residing in the UK. At best he has an opinion just like any other Nigerian.
PoliticsRe: IPoB: Igbos come here and discuss Biafra agitation as led by Nnamdi Kanu by wirinet(m): 8:06am On Jun 27, 2019
oalandAgents2:
Here is what I think.
First Iam 55years old and was an infant during the first
Ojukwu led Biafra.
Having since done some research on the Ojukwu led Biafra here is what I learnt:

At the time 30th May 1967 that the Republic of Biafra was declared, the following were the facts on ground:

The Federal Republic of Nigeria of which Igboland was a territory was under the military rule of General Gowon, A Northerner who overthrew the previous military ruler General Ironsi in a bloody coup that assassinated General Ironsi and many other Igbo military officers.

Major General Ojukwu was the military Chief administering the Eastern region of the federal government of Nigeria at the time.

He was fully trained in warfare and I believe had served in military mission in war zone at home and abroad (UN peace keeping).

For most of the 11 months since Gowon had assumed power, a massacre of Igbos had been taking place not only in Northern States but also in Lagos and West. And Gowon had been unwilling or unable to bring these massacres to an end.

Ojukwu had exhausted all diplomatic options available to him in bring the crisis of the killings Igbos all over the country to an end; including sending envoys to meet General Gowon to persuade him to do whatever is necessary to stop Igbo massacres.

A summit with Gowon in Aburi Ghana took place and both of them reached an agreement known as the Aburi Accord, which was a plan to restructure Nigeria into a confederation and take steps to end ethinic tribal violence and killings.

Ojukwu in the face of unending massacres of Igbos had given Gowon's Federal govt an ultimatum by which time the Aburi Accord would begin to be implemented and Igbo killings brought to an end. Gowon seemed on able or unwilling to implement the Aburi Accord.

The Igbo masses were now pressuring Ojukwu to do something to save Igbo lives in the face of continued killings.

Ojukwu consulted Igbo Elders, Traditional rulers , Statemen and Heads of judiciary both current and retired, they gave him the mandate to declare the independent Republic of Biafra on May 30th 1967. I was 3 years old.

Ojukwu had complete backing of 100% of The Igbo population and had command over all existing Igbo military personnel and weapons and ammunition and machinery already in Igboland.

In an emotion- causing part of his speech as he declared the independent Republic of Biafra he addressed those Igbos still running for their lives, telling them to stay strong and to be assured that once they can cross that line in the land they will be safe from massacre.

I am getting emotional now. Will be back.

Ojukwu then remain in the trenches with the Nigerian troops for almost 3 years before Biafra was defeated by Gowon 's Nigerian troops who had the Support from UK , US , Russia (Soviet Union), and of course all ty the other tribal groups of the federation. An estimated 1million Igbo lives were lost a fair proportion of those died of starvation as Nigerian forced closed off off all ports and roads to supply us with food.

Ojukwu went into exile after the war ended and Igbo people returned to the rule of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

I was 6 years old by that time and old enough to understand and remember overwhelming mood of the Igbo people at that time, was relief that our suffering was over and that we had survived the war.

For his leadership Ojukwu remains an irrevocable leader and father in Igbo hearts and on his return from exile in 1983, he urged Igbos to accept Nigeria and work hard get their share of opportunities within federal Nigeria.

Chief Ojukwu died in 2011 age 78 having himself reintegrated into Nigeria democratic system and even sought elected office.
Well done my brother. I am impressed you are stimulating intellectual debate on the biafra question and not insults, threats and blackmail as employed by Kanu and his IPOB group. I am even none has called you efulefu, slave or afonja, maybe they are becoming more restraint.
Before I continue let me disagree with some of your narrative.
First, there is no record of massacres of Igbos in Lagos and in the West. Such unfounded allegations would be taken as malicious lies by the yorubas, it was in the north that Igbos were being massacred. If you have any reference to Igbos being massacred in Lagos in 1966 - 67, please educate us.

Secondly, I do not see the direct connection between the massacre or Igbos in other parts of Nigeria with declaration of Biafra. Yes, it was unfortunate and even criminal that Igbos were being massacred, and General Gowon did or could not stop it (the same thing that Gowon himself accused General Ironsi and hence his counter coup. He accused General Ironsi of not prosecuting the January 1966 murderers).
But, the Aburi accord was not about stopping the massacre of Igbos, it was about granting the south east under Ojukwu autonomy. The Aburi accord would not have stopped the Igbos massacres. It would have only made Ojukwu not be under the authority of Gowon.

As someone said, every tribe has different narrative of the war. Every body feels like victim and saw the others as aggressors.
PoliticsRe: T.Y Danjuma Worth $1.2bn, Owns International Hotels – Bloomberg by wirinet(m): 3:39am On Jun 27, 2019
RoyalPriesthuud:
Abacha gave him the oil well that he made him a billionaire for $25mil. He would sell half of it ten years later for $1.8bn. How can Abacha be a saint in this scenariohuh
If you read the report devoid of the preconceived bias of "he was dashed an oil block" you will see that what he bought was an oil exploration licence;
Danjuma paid $25m in 1998 for the oil field exploration license that made him a billionaire.
If you remove the bias from your head, you will realise than an oil exploration license is different from an oil mining license.
An exploration licence gives the licence holder exclusive rights to explore for petroleum or specific minerals within a designated area but it does not permit mining, nor does it guarantee a mining or production lease will be granted.
https://www.resourcesandgeoscience.nsw.gov.au/landholders-and-community/minerals-and-coal/exploration
An oil exploration licence is like a gamble. If you find substantial oil deposits, you hit jackpot; if you find nothing, you lose your millions of dollars spent on the exploration plus the exploration licence fee.

After finding oil in commercial quantities, you then apply and pay millions of dollars for oil mining licence which allows you to actually drill the oil.
PoliticsRe: T.Y Danjuma Worth $1.2bn, Owns International Hotels – Bloomberg by wirinet(m): 3:25am On Jun 27, 2019
jumobi1:
Instead of Nigerians to call a thief a thief we are tribalising it. Most of our leaders have stolen substantially from the country. Our division is why we can’t fight them.
Please explain how Danjuma stole substantially from the country?
PoliticsRe: "Reno Omokri Is Not Rogue" - FFK by wirinet(m): 10:28am On Jun 23, 2019
nanauju:
Don't mind the very silli people. Someone is trying to put the govt in check as regards the kidnap of a girl whom the govt should be trying to rescue, and yet they still abuse him.
But when aunty Oby and others were trying to put the govt in check as regards the kidnap of over 200 girls, you guys including Reno was abusing them.

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