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Georgry:
Both of you are foolish, sense far from una, if 1000 people can fight for Leah the way this man is fighting, Your BUHARI would have no choice but to call his affiliates in sambisa to release the innocent girl.. i hope your child get kidnapped 1 day, foolish people.

You people are evil. Using the misfortune of others for political capital. When Jonathan was in power and thousands of girls were kidnapped, you guys were rejoicing. Jonathan was not able to effect the release of just one girl.
Buhari was able to effect the release of most of the Chibok girls. Out of the overall 100 Dapchi School girls kidnapped by boko Haram, Buhari has been able effect the the release of all except Sharibu Leah. And you guys are screaming up and down like you care about any of the hundreds of thousands people that had been kidnapped or killed by Boko Haram over the years.
Animals have more humanity than you guys.

bizzibodi:
It is not money Leah sharibu & co want,let him borrow a US marine uniform & an M-16.....invade sambissa & free Leah & co.

That's what I don't understand. How does giving leah's family money help Leah herself. Did Boko Haram ask for ransom?

aolawale025:
Reno should be commended. He's trying to keep Leah in public consciousness

Why just Leah? Where was he when over 200 girls were kidnapped during the reign of his master?

Reno Omokri accused Oby Ezekwesili of using BBOG to bring down Jonathan. We can also assume that he is using the Leah campaign to bring down Buhari's government.

kkins25:
can you see how ridiculously your so called cword of God fails you. ? the ship can take 125000 thousand pairs of animlals? are you not- even in this digital era that there are millions of species.

the moment you christians realise that your bible is the book of men, that day is the day a flame would settle on your forehead and ye shall speak in tongues and prophecy. but ontil then, everyday you continue to crucify the logos whom died for your sins. olaadegbu, you pharisee

Don't mind them, they suspend their senses and sanity in order to believe their imported myths and fables. Even at the ridiculous 125,000 pairs of animal, a single structure cannot contain them. A Zoo of a few hundred animals requires hectares of space. They think you can stack animals in drawers and then just lock them up for a year. They don't reason that feeding and living arrangements of each animal must be provided for daily.
It is ridiculous that a so called omnipotent God, that was supposed to have create the whole universe and all creatures in it with just words in 6 days, would have to go through such stupid strategy of destroying the earth with flood, and saving 8 people with 2 of every animal.

chucs:
They goals they conceded were really unfortunate and that penalty was no penalty. They actually tried in the ending stages of the first and Oshaola has been bang below average barring the goal she scored. Take that to the bank.

I could understand the penalty, because some referees would give it some won't, what I don't understand was the offside goal. The offside player was clearly interfering with play by blocking the view of the keeper, unless FIFA is telling us that players can stand and block a goal keeper while offside, to prevent the keeper from seeing a shot.

adoyi8:
God is a bad problem solver.
He tried to create a perfect world but a common serpent outsmarted him.
Sent Adam and Eve of the garden, didn't work.
Destroyed the world with flood, didn't work.
Sent his son to redeemed his creatures and still didn't work.
Why is he even God?

The bible God is even more incompetent. Even in his domain (heaven ), one third of his angels rebelled against him under the leadership of Lucifer. He could not even ensure peace and order in heaven.
How are were sure he will be able to manage the same heaven after judgement day, after he has eliminated most unbelieving and rebellious humans.

Oghidi:
A then governor built a house worth of 12 billion naira and he was not interogated, 400m to 12b is what? Corruption in d highest order... Live this guys alone we know d truth of this country none of the so called head in any of the governmental agency is free. I have Signed out jare

You better apply to be his lawyer and give this argument in court. Maybe the judge might just find him innocent because he "stole" or laundered N400 when another person was laundering N12 billion.

Lanre4uonly:
National assignment(s)?
The list of the national assignment(s) ought to be mentioned by him so as to back up his claim.

Abeg ask him if the national assignment was budgeted for by the national assembly, and ask him how the National Publicity Secretary of the Peoples Democratic Party was given national assignment instead of party assignment.

But if it was the reverse and the APC started probing why and how their legislatives voted in an election, PDP will start screaming dictatorship and legislatives independence.

Secondus is insinuating that members of PDP are not allowed to vote their conscience, but must vote according to directives.

TV01:
Even the typically employed order-family-genus-species taxonomy is not totally concise. With lots of re-classifications and disputes about what should be placed where. But it's a good point and I'd place it somewhere around or between family and genus.

You are still talking without saying anything. Even if nothing in concise, give us a classification we can define. Give something that can be taught, disputed upon and discussed.
We know what biological family and genus means, explain what in between is and how it's criteria for classification.

This is not a problem that does not arise in the OFGS system. Interbreeding cannot and should not be the only or even the main criteria. But again, point taken. Cheetahs are listed as Felids in this OFGS classification. Some believe they are more like dogs? There will always be anomalies.

Cheetahs are cat family (felidae), no doubt about that. They possess all the features and characteristics of cats. Now if you say that according to your "kind" classification, it is dog, explain why.

Tigers, Leopards, Lions and the other big cats can all interbreed, and with some of the smaller cats. Some kinds may have been more genetically rich/diverse or better able to adapt, leading to more types within it.

Some big cats can interbreed, but the problem is their offsprings are usually sterile. They in turn cannot breed. The very definition of species iincludes the ability breed and create fertile offspring .
We really need your definition of what makes a kind.

There could be "competition" even within the kinds over time. Lot's of factors could have led to a kind being restricted or expansive in the types within it.

There is a lot we can't say for sure and lot's of time has passed. It's possible that the 2 of each kind were not even what today would be called the same species and, there were probably fewer types within each kind but with greater genetic richness/diversity, which diminishes over time.

Hopefully it's clearer now.

Clearer ke? Can you make sense of what you wrote up there?

And you are free to stick to your fables of evolution.

Evolution fables, and creation (or kind-ution) is fact? The only proof being a sentence "the birds according to their kinds, and of the animals according to their kinds, of every creeping thing of the ground, according to its kind" in a religious book? While, evolution fable produces evidence from generics, paleontology, geology and biology, kind-ution fact only evidence is a quote from the bible.

Meanwhile, any takers for the bolded?

For one creature, something "less evolved" than an ape say, to "evolve" into apes and humans requires the acquisition of new genetic material.
Can the mechanism behind this acquistion of new material be clearly evidenced or demonstrated by experiment?


TV

TV01:
Dogs are a good example, as are cats. All dogs including wolves, jackals, coyotes etc. would have been a kind. What is commonly termed speciation today is the loss over time of information the original near-perfect pair would have had in localised populations, as certain features are de-emphasised or emphasised, various traits become more pronounced or recessive.

Humans are uniquely created in the image of God. And in some ways are a good example. Adam and Eve would have hade a perfect genome, containing traits we see in what are termed the "races" today (although through the descendants of Noah).

Over time, some traits would become more or less pronounced as populations diverge and localise. It evidences genetic information being lost or becoming recessive, as opposed to the acquisition of new information that proponents of evolution are yet to evidence.

I hope the above speaks to this.


There is no space - not in the way it is typically presented in movies. There is water above and below the earth. Above the firmament of heaven and in the "deep".


Graciás


I am being "deluged" with questions, yet no-one has answered the single one I raised?


TV

You are yet to provide a concise classification mythology for your "Kind".
The first problem with your examples of kind is that inter breeding is impossible between your kind, as a cheetah cannot breed with a lion.

Now how does your cat "kind" differ from the ape "kind"?

TV01:
Flesh only bro'.

TV

So what happened to plants. Plants do drown also if submerged in water for prolonged periods.
If all the plants die, what did the animals and Noah's family eat when the left the ark?

TV01:
Flesh only bro'.

Genesis 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, you shall bring two of every sort into the ark to keep them alive with you. They shall be male and female. 20 Of the birds according to their kinds, and of the animals according to their kinds, of every creeping thing of the ground, according to its kind, two of every sort shall come in to you to keep them alive.

So how many kinds of birds and how many kinds of animals are there according to your classification of kinds? Are Ostrich, dove, sparrow, chicken, Turkey the same kind or different kinds of birds? What of Dogs, are wolves, foxes and jackals the same kind or different kinds? What of hyenas?
Also tell me is Bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans and gorillas are same or different kinds with humans. You guys need to publish your classification of kinds, so others can understand.

Elephants belong to the same kind. Horses, Donkeys, Zebras etc. are also a kind. The elephant kind would have given rise to African, Asian, Woolly mammoth and any other type of elephant kind that came into being. The animals needn't be mature or even post pubescent.

What of camels llamas and giraffes are they the same kind with horses? Then there are bison, African buffalo, water buffalo, antelopes, wildebeest, impala, gazelles, sheep, goats, muskoxen, and domestic cattle are they all the same kind?
As I said provide a well written journal of your classification according to kinds.

God formed the world "in and out of the waters. There is still water above and below the earth. The windows of heaven were opened and the waters of the deep released. Look up, why is the sky blue?

That is written above is absolutely nonsense. It looks like something a schizophrenic would write. Anyway, you guys already say, that a holy spirit is required to understand such rubbish.
Now interprete these tautologies;
God formed the world "in and out of the waters - Does this mean the earth is formed inside water and out of water?

There is still water above and below the earth - What is meant by above and below the earth? Does that include space?

windows of heaven were opened and the waters of the deep released - windows where?

Look up, why is the sky blue? - We all know why the sky is blue and sometimes orange and even red.

2 Peter 3:5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water,


TV

Nonsense.

OLAADEGBU:
Family. Have you heard of mankind before?

Family as defined biologically or socially?

mankind - The human race : the totality of human beings.
Now, how does this relate to monkeykind, Gorillakind, birdkind, Whalekind, dolphinkind, sharkkind, etc.

kingzizzy:
Maybe you should watch the video again, Kanu was protesting against Fulani killings, not for one United Nigeria

Are you sure you have enough bandwidth to watch it fully? I could help you transcribe.

OLAADEGBU:
Species is a man-made classification God created them in 'Kinds' and Noah's Ark is an historical event.

At least species has a definition every one understands, what is the definition of kinds? Is penguins and ostrichs the same kind? What of gorillas and orangutans?

How many mice entered the ark and how many left a year later? If one couple of mice enter your house, in a year you will have millions, as one female mouse is able to birth an average of 8 children every 6 weeks.
Not forgetting that insect produce thousands of eggs at a time.

This issue applies to all animals, chicken, reptiles, etc.

Maybe Noah sterilised all the animals.

What about the housefly and numerous insects that have relatively short life span? How were they able to survive for a year.

Another problem with the Noah myth is the Kangaroo problem. How did kangaroos and other animals unique to Australia make it to Australia within 6000 years without leaving a trace along the way. Australia are isolated from any other land. Same problem with Madagascar. Most of the animals in Madagascar is unique to the island, and there is no way, animals could migrate from the middle east to Madagascar without flying there.

Bridget95:
The current Biafra agitation heated up so well during GEJ's era than Buhari's.Go and read about it,in 2014 it was hot,hot and hot about radio Biafra. Most of NK's words that we started seeing in till date about herdsmen killings were foretold. Get your facts right.

Big lies.
What Kanu protest for one Nigeria and against disintegration during Jonathan's regime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlKqSJeHgRo

LordReed:
Hahahahaha. There are more than 1 million animals and insect species in this world and you want us to believe Noah's boat that is not up to half of the Titanic carried 2million animals and insects plus dinosaurs plus human plus all the food they'd need for 1 year? LMFAO!

You are only talking about animals, what of plants species and even fungi. There are close to 400,000 plant species in the world. How did Noah preserve the plants?

Piercy:
I did , I don't understand his refusal to further his own child's education, punish the child like I said if it belittles you which it does to we Africans it's an insult out rightly but you yourself would agree that education aspect is rather wrong

The education aspects is not wrong, to me the father is doing the daughter a favour to ask her to fend for her self, since she feels she owes her father no gratitude for sponsoring her education from nursery to university level, most girls are not that lucky to have a caring father.
It's only in Nigeria that an adult student depends 100% on his or her parents until Bachelor's and even masters level. Most western children either fully or partially sponsor their university education. In the West once you are 18 your parents force you to start fending for yourself. I have seen a situation where a parent told his 20 year old son to go and rent his own accommodation, because he needs to rent out his room for extra income. He offered to rent it to him at a discount if he still chooses to continue living in his house.
Nigeria children are often to spoilt by their parents and so have an entitlement mentality.
If the man was not his father, will the lady not clean or work for the person paying her wages she will use to pay school fees, accommodation and feeding?

Daeylar:
Poor girl has really suffered. Small washing plate will make him to stop paying school fees? Such a little thing and he is taking such drastic actions. Was it really that deep? probably thinks she won't survive without him so feels he can do anyhow he pleases to her over little issues. That's why such a little thing he wants to stop paying her school fees.
I'm glad she has her mum supporting her. I hope she does away with such a Draconian "father" the way he has done away with her and finds her way without him.. Topics like this come up yet people keep wondering nonstop why it seems mothers are celebrated more than fathers.

Can't believe people are supporting and making excuses for his actions , using feminism as an excuse and as their scapegoat.


Edit.
To everyone quoting me crying about this comment.
Tbh I think you guys are right. What he did is even small. He should even have disowned her to teach her a lesson.
After all. There is no such thing as a too harsh punishment.

Smh

If you know how much it costs to send a child to school in the UK, you will not be spewing such rubbish.
Your father pays your school fees from nursery to university, he pays thousands of pounds for schools fees not to talk of accommodation and feeding fees, and ordinary his plate you cannot wash to show appreciation.
No wonder they say no matter what you do for a woman, they can never appreciate it.

She can now got and get a job at McDonalds, where she will wash plates at £5 per hour.

The man better use the tens of thousands of pounds for better purpose.

budaatum:
I'm not a novice to any of this so don't assume I've no knowledge whatsoever. Even you call it "best explanation", and accept that it is "speculation", so you can hardly expect me to claim it as my knowledge, and you definitely can not be asking me to believe it! I don't do believe!

What we have is the best assumptions from "careful collation of data" very long after the fact, out of which we have "provided the best explanation", which is exactly the same way ("careful collation of data" as we could at the time within the confines of our ability to collate it), we got "God done it in 6 days then rested". It is precisely for this reason that the Big Bang theory is described as "the prevailing cosmological model for the observable universe", and not "this is exactly how the universe came about". The fact that it is "prevailing" is no reason to claim that's what happened, and the best scientists will always qualify with "as best as we know". None of the models exactly explain how any of it began, just what happened after it had begun, and that really is saying quite a lot about what is not known.

I am surprised you are talking like this. You are beginning to sound like a theologist. It is only theologist that claim to know exactly how the universe began, no scientist claim that. What scientists have are various postulations and guesses. No one can know exactly how the universe began, because no one witnessed it and there is no observable data before the universe began or even after it began (that is even if it had a beginning in the true sense of the word). What scientist are fairly confident of is what happens long after the beginning from their interpretation of observable data.
You cannot compare that with the postulation by theologists of "God did it" or since it exist it must have been created by someone" without any supporting evidence or data whatsoever.
To the theologists, all uknown obsevations stop at God did, while with the scientists vigorous debates and arguments ensures and the most widely acceptable explanation for "observable data" wins, albeit temporarily until a better explanation comes along or new data that does not conform to old explanation is observed. Einstein and Bohr debated quantum mechanics 3 times and in the end Einstein was "wrong" and Bohr was "right" and today quantum mechanics rules the microscopic world.
It is a travesty to put the Big Bang Theory in the same league with the "God did it" hypothesis.

budaatum:
So, "moving away", you hear a big bang? Sorry, all myths to me as I'm not the believing sort.

In a world where we struggle to know what happened 100 years ago, 200 years ago, 10,000 years ago, and even yesterday in Nigeria, anything said about a billion years ago can only be mythology, at least, to me.

As for a better explanation, my ignorance should do.

And I'm saying that despite being completely hooked on Brian Cox's new book and tv program called The Planets. I just love the way he makes one realise it's speculation, albeit, based on the best understanding of the very tiny evidence as understood.

The way science works is to attempt to give the best explanation for observable data, the prevailing explanation might change with new data.
Yes all of science can be termed speculation, but speculations based of careful collation of data and providing the best explanation for the collated data. Most times these science theories can be used to make accurate predictions of future situations or data not yet observed.
Now read the works of Edwin Hubble and how he came about the Big Bang theory. He noticed that all galaxies and objects were accelerating from us, and the further away from us, the faster the acceleration. This fact is undisputed. So the onus is now the person that can provide the best explanation for this phenomenon. Now, anybody with a better explanation would deserve a Nobel price.
The cosmic microwave background was used to validate the big bang. It was predicted before it was even discovered.

budaatum:
And it's for this very reason that we adopt the scientific method and peer reviews. So people don't get to pass their preconceptions and biases off as objective when it might be full of their preconceptions and biases.

Creationism if held to be true, is a bias and a preconception. So also is the big bang. Both are pure speculation based on shoddy evidence, opinions and beliefs and not on objective reality

Evolution, on the other hand, is based on quite a lot of objective evidence. And only those who have a God bone to grind seem to be against it.

I'm sorry, but I must say that your preconceptions and biases blind you to this fact. I am also aware that you are accusing me of the same preconception and bias blindness. I can only suggest you learn more about evolution. You might change your mind.

You are very wrong about equating big bang theory to creation. Creation has zero evidence, just dogma forcefully pushed down ones throat, or should I say head.
Big bang on the other hand has 2 key evidences , namely - the red shift of light from distant galaxies, showing galaxies are moving away from each other and the cosmic microwave background that is constant throughout the universe.
If you have a better explanation for these phenomena, I am all ears.

pranil:
The lithium raw material in a Li-ion battery is only a fraction of one cent per watt, or less than 1 percent of the battery cost. A $10,000 battery for a plug-in hybrid contains less than $100 worth of lithium. Shortages when producing millions of large batteries for vehicles and stationary applications could increase the price, but for now this is not the case.

https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/availability_of_lithium

The prices are bound to drop as the production ramps up and more players enter market - The cost of Lithium battery comes from clean production processes and not the raw materials
Attached is a nice video explaining the challenges .

That is the reason the semiconductor/ chip suppliers were ahead of the race ( Samsung, LG, Pansonic, Sony) but Chinese companies are catching up ( BYD... etc)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2819K8_m7c

AThe Bloomberg survey gives a nice overlook since 2012 -

https://about.bnef.com/blog/behind-scenes-take-lithium-ion-battery-prices/


P.s -Gambia is planning a 8 MWh battery bank to work with 20 MW PV power plant to offset the diesel production currently powering the country - Imagine trying to achieve that with lead acid and the environmental impact of such large quantities of lead

God bless you. Battery technology had been stagnant for more than 1 and a half centuries since the discovery of lead acid, until the introduction of lithium chemistry. People are used to lead acid and it will take some time to get use to litgium, but the future of energy storage is lithium. Huge solar power plants cannot be effective without and effective storage batteries. It's virtually impossible to store Megawatts of electricity using lead acid.

Saipro:
It's a pretty straightforward connection. Literally plug-and-play. But that's not the contended issue.


I disagree on that. He's charging within limits. Just that things can go wrong without warning. And with the low drain rate, imbalance is unlikely too. That doesn't mean his contraption is safe

I take God beg you don't confuse the guy and others.
If he is using the fan connection made for lead acid battery, he is not charging within limits. You need a minimum of 13.7v to adequately charge any 12v lead acid battery. Most use 14.4v and float charge at 13.7v. Now a 3 series li-ion battery should never be charged beyond 12.6v. So he is probably charging at over 1v above safety limits.
Use Google to check up on li-ion charging voltage if you do not know.

hotdealz:
I think some cells were dead before I started using them cos I didn't throw any cell away from the dead laptop battery as I have no means of testing anything.

As I said earlier you are threading a very dangerous road. You need a basic understanding of electricity to attempt what you are doing. In the minimum get a cheap meter to check the voltage while charging. They are between N1,500 to N,2000. The best is to connect a small voltmeter permanently so you can always see the voltage.

Also, I only charge it for 5hours whenever it needs to be recharged which is mostly once in a week cos I only use the fan at night when there is no nepa light for the ceiling fan and that 5hours charge can carry me for about 5 nights at average speed before the fan stops working and needs to be recharged.

You should also never discharge a li-ion cell below 3v, that's 9v for 3 cells in series as in your case.
I guess the voltage cut of mark for the fan is far less than 9v because it was designed for lead acid. 12v lead acid cut off for these fans are usually around 10.5v to 11.5v, so you should be safe here.

I have been doing it that way for 3 months plus now. Unless if charging it for the 5hours can raise the battery voltage above the 12.6v maximum. But, the battery has never for once gotten hot. [color=#990000]Can it still explode without getting hot?

Li-ion cells can explode without warnings, if there is an internal short. Although some cells have safety fuse embedded

Where do I get a volt display so I can always put it off when it gets to about 12.4V?

You can get a regular meter in most shops that sell electronic components and even some electrical shops. For small voltmeter you need to go to specialised markets like alaba.

Or is there any device I can connect to it that would automatically stop charging once the volt gets to the 12.4V?

That's the job of a BMS.

I really appreciate your spirit. You noticed a problem, and you made an attempt to resolve it. I wish most Nigerians have your attitude. You are only doing it the wrong way without adequate information.

Your issue has given me a good business idea. I will start working on designing a lithium battery replacement for rechargeable fans. It should run electric fans for 24 hours non stop and last for at least 2 years.

SolnergyPower:
I think you should rather ask how he got it to work than this too many ways why-it-will-never-work!

Please try and read and comprehend before hiting the submit button. The workability of the set up was not in discussion, I was talking about the safety. He had no safety measures whatsoever.

hotdealz:
below is the battery that came with the fan. It says 12V.

I'm not using any external charger to charge it. It's a rechargeable fan. I'm using the inbuilt charger, I guess.

I disconnected the battery that came with it and connected the laptop battery directly to the wires.

The charger that came with the fan is a lead acid charger, which probably charge at about 13.9v. That's far too high for a 3S li-ion battery. At 13.9 each cell receives about 4.6v . That is a recipe for disaster. Your charging voltage should never exceed 12.6v. If you had connected through the BMS, you will not have any problem but you are connecting direct. You also seem to connect 3 of such laptop batteries in parallel, making the whole battery set up 3S6P.

I repeat get someone who is knowledgeable in lithium batteries to do the set up for you. I just pray the cells themselves are protected.

hotdealz:
What is BMS?

Well, below is the strange way I connected lithium batteries from "dead laptop batteries" to my rechargeable fan. The fan can now blow at very high speed for more than 24hours non stop. It's been working like that for 3 months now, no issues at all and I didn't use BMS anywhere.

I will never use that rubbish they call battery that came with the fan again! I wondered why they use the battery in the first place. Something that barely blows for 5 hours at the lowest speed.

My brother, that your contraption is very dangerous o. You could burn down your house. Li-ion batteries are the worst ones to toy with. They explode and almost nothing can quench the fire.

The idea is good but your execution is very poor. First you need to determine the voltage requirement of your fan (I suspect 6v ), you now need to connect your li-ion batteries in series to achieve around 6v. 2 li-ion batteries in series would give 7.4v nominal and 8.4v maximum. Now, you must never charge above 8.4v. I need to know the charger you are using to charge the batteries.

Laptop batteries are usually 3 batteries in series, which is 11.1 nominal and 12.6 maximum. If you are using a condemned laptop battery one of the series of cells is probably bad.

I see you bypassed the BMS. (The BMS is the small circuit cased in plastic attached to the cells). Your cells is probably out of balance. The luck you might have is that the cells could have protection circuit embedded in it which will just stop the cells from working instead of exploding.
Please get someone with a knowledge of lithium batteries to look at your set up

hotdealz:
What is BMS?

Battery Management System. An electronic circuit or device to make sure your batteries operate within recommended limits, like operating voltage, and to ensure none of the cells (in series) go out of balance.

Effiongdbest:
Lol do which research? You mean Lagos - Ibadan research Nollywood started right at the back yard of Enugu state before it migrated to Lagos State and beyond.. Get your facts right and stop living a lie young man!

Why do you prefer to lie and spread falsehood, instead of making an effort to actually do some research and learn.
Hubert Ogungbe started making plays before any of your nollywood actors and producers was even born.
Did any of your nollywood producers make films on celluloid? (I hope you know what celluloid is).
Hubert Ogungbe released his first full length feature films in the 70s with Ija Ominira, Ajani Ogun, two pioneering Yoruba feature-length films, Aiye and Jaiyesimi. You are now comparing with a nollywood that started in 1992 with Nneka the pretty serpent.

Where in Enugu did nollywood start. Which production facilities did they have in Enugu then and even now? The only two centres with film production studio and equipments then was Lagos and Jos.