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benalvino3:Honestly, I have never seen a more delusional person in this life. You create a belief to justify your right wing extremist views, then you manufacture lies and half truths to support that belief not minding they are glaringly false. Medical report by qualified medical professionals rule the cause of George Floyd's death to be Homicide and not drug overdose. Oya start with your wild conspiracy theories of deep state, Globalist propaganda or other stupid excuses See the report attached below knee on his windpipe? Oya show us what you claimed.See this video I have posted many times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vksEJR9EPQ8&feature=shares Pay attention from 5:25 to 5:45. The person you are talking about says stress can lead to stroke, so what is your point? do you even read or you are just always heartbroken when someone does not agree with you?I am more heart broken by your level of delusion, your deviation from reality. Even Trump's family, staff and lawyers has limitations to the absurdity they can go defending Trump and right wing extremists. anytime you type something here it is to misrepresent someone or lie.I point out your lies with proof from reputable sources, why not point out my lies with sources outside right wing extremist media.
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budaatum:You are wasting your time and bandwidth arguing with benalvino3 and his alter ego basilico. Someone that believes Goerge Floyd died of drug overdose and not the knee on his wind pipe (neck) is the person that you are trying to convince that internal injury or excessive stress can lead to stroke. |
Luckysbab:The problem is the other parties don't trust INEC, so they have no confidence in any data purportedly stored by INEC. The parties want to copy the data themselves and have it verified by INEC, then they can back them up and delete them. |
Livelystone01:So you mean to tell me that INECs BVAS machine cannot store the voter register of both federal and state elections at the same time? Something an average Chinese smartphone can achieve. So how much memory is in the machines? Besides what the other parties are demanding from INEC is a forensic audit of the machines. Then the info stored on the cloud is not the original information but a copy. The one in the cloud can be challenged. You require the original information that was captured by the machines. |
OboOlora:I agree eve should be a heroine. Without her humans would still dumb animals wothout knowledge walking naked in the garden of Eden. There would not be sex and procreation and God would have to continuously molding clay to create more men, who would then need to have a rib removed to create corresponding women. |
Thomas. He did not believe just by hearsay or second person evidence. He Saw with his own eyes and felt with his own fingers. |
benalvino3:I cringe any time I read your advocacy for white interests and talking points, even much more than most known white extremists. You isolate issues from their real context in order angelize extreme right wing talking points and agenda and the demonize any black relate issue. You take the George Floyd saga in isolation and causally attribute it to "lack of training lack of discipline, lack of oversight and questionable hiring practices in police departments", asking the blacks and the world to forget decades of racism they had undergone in the US. You are asking blacks in the US to forget Amadou Diallo, who was shot 41 times by police officers in front of his house. You are asking blacks in the US to forget about Oscar Grant,who was shot in the back with his hands tied behind his back by police officers, you are asking blacks for forget about Micheal Brown, Eric Gardner, Gary King Jr, and so many young men who were needlessly killed by white police officers. And worst of all, you are saying that the civil right movement never happened, that police did not kill black youths sometimes setting dogs on unarmed black protesters. To you these events were as a result of "the lack of training lack of discipline, lack of oversight and questionable hiring practices in police departments" I am sure If you were a police officer that was deployed to quell a protest or riot by "Black Lives Matter, Antifa and a number of other far left Marxist groups" as you call them, you would be more brutal than even white police officers as your hatred for blacks is even more than those of white supremacist s." To you the whites had actually been victims of unfair treatment in the US. I must confess to say that I have not seen or even heard of a sicker black man.
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Jsucre:Noone is destined to be president. That's for kings and queens. Presidents are determined through political maneuvers, treachery, murder and even war. |
GloriousGbola:Nigeria should not be about reciprocating support, but about the interest of all nigerians. Its was not only Tinubu's support that made Buhari president in 2015, many Nigerians from all tribes, religions and works of life - both home and abroad supported Buhari. Even I supported Buhari's against my ijaw brother Jonathan. All polls before the elections gave Buhari victory and that was why Jonathan postponed the elections to buy time. In this elections, there was no clear favourite, all three candidates could have won, or at worst we would have gone for a runoff. Tinubu might still have won without rigging, but they didn't want to take a chance, and so APC and INEC rigged massively. |
Wickedfacts:Senator Danjuma is a relative, so I was invited. Then I got to the church at the tail end when the service was just rounding up. I went straight to Eko Hotel for the reception. |
Khastro:Jonathan never litigated the outcome of the 2015 elections. Now that's a man of honour. He knew he lost. |
Wickedfacts:See what religion has turned a normal human being to. Wicked, dishonest and angry soul. For your info I have not been to a church for over 10 years. Churches (and mosques) are breeding grounds for criminals. |
Faber:In Nigeria God is justification for every evil imaginable. Boko Haram rapes and murders children and women in the name of God. Kidnappers kill and sell the body parts of their victims in the name of God. Even priests and pastors fleece members of their congregations of their money and dignity in the name of God. Elections are stolen in the name of God. This was the reason I became an atheist very young in life. I could not in clear conscience worship a God that turn people evil. |
spearman:But a man who came fourth had been declared winner before by the Supreme court in this our obodo Nigeria, so nothing is impossible when it comes to Nigerian elections. |
Benbellamor:My broda, e shock me o. People are talking about transmission of result and accreditation, this one is talking about collation. What the similarity. Did INEC promise us digital or electronic collation? |
DeepSight:Even though it's not an ideal world, that doesn't mean we should accept fraud/scams/rigging as normal, and stop striving for idealism. What do you expect dino to do, after numerous assurances from Mahmood Yakubu himself that this would not happen? Do you deny the probability and likelihood of failure of such tech in the Nigerian environment?Yes there is a possibly of glitches in the system, but not on the scale as experienced on election day and immidiately after. Various reports from party agents, observers and the general public suggests something more sinister by INEC officials handling the BVAS and IReV. Unexpected failures can be ameliorated or substantially corrected, but INEC did not show any willingness to address the issue. Don't get me wrong, I am by no means saying there hasn't been some hanky panky. But you really can't say you expected it to go seamlessly in Nigeria with such tech. No one who has lived in Nigeria can expect that.I still don't understand the kind of glitches that would not make most of the BVAS machines malfunction at the same time and unresolveable for over 2 days when INEC has a fully functional IT department specifically dedicated for that purpose. |
DeepSight:What do you say about Mahmood Yakubu's assurance to the political parties in November 2022 that the results will be uploaded in real time on Election day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oy5L06zgus And then his volte-face yesterday when Dino asked him to explain why the results were not posted as promised before he starts announcing the results? |
DeepSight:As I said I hold you in high esteem, and so I don't want a verbal spat. Yes I was wrong in asserting that nothing had been uploaded as I was relying on what Dino Melaye said in his protest. But even at that I was appalled and irritated by you trying to excuse INEC by saying; DeepSight:I honestly do not expect such excuse from you. This is about the sixth general election in this dispensation. The same problems and excuse had been given in each previous election cycle. Nigerians demanded and fought for electronic voting (at least electronic accreditation) to forestall previous problems of where INEC officials just allocate figures. It was experimented during the 2019 elections whereby Atiku alleged that the figures on the server was different from the one accredited by INEC. INEC alleged that they did not upload the results on any server. Meanwhile the supreme court ruled that electronic voting/accreditation is not in the constitution and so cannot render the elections invalid. I am giving you this background to let you know why Nigerians were passionate about BVAS and IReV. It was even made mandatory in the 2022 election law and guidelines. Now INEC made promises to the political parties and Nigerians that they would use BVAS and IReV in subsequent elections and indeed used it in all off season elections since. Because of that it gave some credibility to the elections and it was less acrimonious. These issues you raised about epileptic power supply and scale was equally raised by political parties and knowledgeable Nigerians. INEC assured everyone that they have everything covered, that even if there was no network at the time of election, the uploaded results would be on the machines and would upload automatically once network is available. About scale and bandwidth, INEC assured everyone that they have everything covered. Only for the elections to take place and less than 30% was uploaded a full two days after elections. And they resorted to going back to use the discredited manual accreditation and result sheets. Now after INEC returns a winner the chairman would just resort to the usual "if you are not satisfied, go to court". Meanwhile the supreme court had already ruled that electronic voting/accreditation cannot invalidate an election. Is that not INEC taking Nigerians for granted? With your excuse of " In a nation with epileptic power, epileptic internet, epileptic bank transaction alerts. . .", the ruling government would make sure these things don't work in order to use this excuse to hold on to power perpetually. Politicians (all over the world) are ready to do anything to hold unto power, including impoverishing its people or even war. We should demand the right things be done - no excuses. Besides, what did INEC do with the over 300 billion it said it used to conduct the elections? They did not buy vehicles, they did not provide accommodation or even logistics for their staffs - these were provided by state governments. Numerous international bodies gave donations to aid the smooth conduct of the elections. So how much was spent in each of the 774 local government areas that they can't buy power banks and Internet service for the machines? |
jelel6:It's stupidity on the part of wike. He could get away with such blatant rigging with PDP as PDP is quite popular in Rivers State,but APC winning Rivers is an abomination. He should have just given APC the required 25% if he was wise. Rivers will mar the whole elections if care is not taken. People are beginning to protest and the results have not yet been announced. If Tinubu is announced as winner, there will be riots a over Rivers State. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVbJCQijDXw&feature=shares |
DeepSight:I am still shocked you are making excuses and even ready to lie for INECs shoddy organisation of the elections? Why? I have always known you to be an upright and spiritual guy. Here is the EU observer missions preliminary report below.
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Oh wait. It is Kwankwaso that is winning Kano despite being an enemy of the sitting APC Governor!I have explained why Obi can take Lagos and Atiku can take Osun. Ekiti is an APC state, so the rigging advantage lies with APC. I don't understand the political dynamics of Kano, but it seems Kwakwanso seem to be a better rigger than the sitting governor. Maybe he has better rigging structure. BVAS and IReV would have help in giving legitimacy to the victories. |
DeepSight:I am a highly tech guy. Which kind of technical problems can affect the whole BVAS and IReV servers? Up till this morning nothing had been uploaded. In a state like Lagos that has 100% internet coverage, we expect at least 50% of the results to have been uploaded by this morning. Remember, these problems did not persists when elections were held in semi rural Osun State, these problems did not persists when elections was held in Anambra. |
DeepSight:As I said it is impossible to brazenly rig Lagos by altering figures like Rivers. Lagos is a highly urbanized state. Only vote buying, intimidation and suppression of voters can work. If BVAS is actually used, you will see that the margin of victory is even much wider than reported. Osun state is governed at the moment by PDP, so if anything else, PDP is more in a position to rig than APC. BVAS would have shown how much rigging PDP did. |
DeepSight:I am highly disappointed you are making such excuses for INEC in the 21st century and after INEC spending hundreds of billions of naira on the elections. Have you never heard of power banks, so what exactly did INEC spend the hundreds of billions on? |
DeepSight:They are not. South West is not critical to victory in presidential elections, because that is the region rigging is minimal. The critical states for presidential elections are Kano, Kaduna, Rivers and sometimes Delta, Bayelsa and akwaibom. They provide the bulk of the votes, while the others make up for the required 25%. You can never win 70% votes in the south west. |
DeWorlex45:There is nothing epic about it. He failed to address why INEC refused to use BVAS and IReV, which Nigerians had invested a lot of trust, emotions and money on. Nigerians historically have a high degree of distrust for the ruling party and INEC. Simply uploading the results from the wards as contained in the electoral act would have saved all these excuses and conjectures. |
DeepSight:The guy was just giving excuses without addressing the real issues at stake. I have been involved in an election for Senate before, I was campaign coordinator for a candidate and also I have uncles and aunties who are deep into Delta state politics, so I know how rigging is carried out. First and foremost rigging is minimal in the South West (except during Iwu's time) and even in the South West rigging is carried out mainly in rural and semi urban areas. What happens in the South West is vote buying. Tinubu's main strategy in holding Lagos and South West is vote buying, intimidation and outright voter suppression by scaring away voters. This time it didn't work as well as before because the naira redesign policy and EFCC reduced vote buying. Also violence and voter intimidation was reduced. Without violence and voter intimidation Tinubu would have lost by a wider margin. Remember Lagos had always voted against expectations, NRC in 1992, AD in 2003 against mainstream PDP in the South West. It wont be a surprise if Labour wins Lagos next week. Now enter the Niger Delta and South East, those have always been the epicenter of election rigging in Nigerian. When I was campaign coordinator, election results was simply allocated to us. We were asked to come to the local government headquarter in koko (Delta) to negotiate with the electoral officer. We could not make it because our agent was injured. So we were allocated about 5,000 votes. There had really never been a valid election in the NigerDelta states. Wike is a master rigger and had always rigged elections for PDP. He was the one that helped Amaechi rig in 2007, help Jonathan rig massively in 2011 and rigged himself in as governor. Have to go now. |
babaolofin:Yes lots of people betrayed Abiola in the actualization of the June 12 mandate due to bribery and political appointments by Abacha. But .. no one disputed the fairness and freeness of the election itself. The issue was never about the freeness of the elections. IBB excuse were alleged violations before the elections and the court case instituted by Nzeribe. The option A4 model adopted did not leave room for doubts and dispute. People queued behind their preferred candidate and it was counted and recorded in front of everyone. |
Ayodeoba:Whether it was rigged or not, INEC should upload the BVAS and IReV. Lagos has not been declared by INEC. |
babaolofin:June 12 was adjudged the freest and fairest election in the history of Nigeria, while Hope 23 is being adjudged the worst election in Nigeria's history. Spot the difference. No one disputed hope 93, not even the opposition party, international observers or the military. Everyone is disputing Hope 23. |
DeepSight:There is no evidence of that. Under the circumstances you stated, rivers should have gone to Obi, mainly because of the massive igbo population in rivers. I am from the Nigeria delta and I understand political sentiments of the nigerdelta. The Nigeria delta is a PDP block. There is very little APC structure from delta to Rivers to akwaibom. Yes most people are angry at PDP for fielding Atiku and Okowa, but that would make them embrace APC, much less Tinubu. Obi would have been the alternative choice. Most of my relatives are politically active in Delta. |
seborrhic:APC was prepared for the fall out of their rigging. That's why the deployed thousands of military men on the streets and thats why they stopped children going to school till further notice. The next few days is expected to be wild. It might surpass ENDSARS. |
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