₦airaland Forum

kpompey:
Now we should start the movement for 2027.Tinubu is a useless president.Credible candidate should selected and tried by a party registered and floated by youths. Tinubu is a disaster to Nigeria and the party constitution should be written such that the party through majority vote can remove the president. Tinubu is a useless man.The same old thieves are recycled.

Meanwhile, another 4 years wasted (post-PMB's eight). When that 2027 comes, they'll throw up another propaganda to upset any movement that wants to upstage the old order, or INEC will still shift the goal post on election day. Lol, everyone will eventually come to the same conclusion someday: that Nigeria can't be redeemed through the ballot.

Let everyone ask their parents and grandparents how far about the Nigeria they lived in. That's the only way you'll be sure this nation is making no head way.

If you haven't travelled, you won't have any reason to question your sense of 'being' and intelligence in Nigeria. When you live in a zoo for too long, you'll only know how to survive like an animal (e.g DSS vs NCS).

There are very few sane people left in this country, that alone should scare you.

Like oil and water, the politicians have made sure the masses never mix. Sadly, to their own hurt. The only reason I don't downplay the potency of spells.

Many have been zombified. They would rather tear each other down with anything possible, rather than confront their mutual and strangely united foes.

ubest1:
Reasons LP legal team didn’t tally some election numbers for outright win claim.

The LP lawyers told the judges that Obi’s votes were stolen and credited to an unqualified candidate and that INEC did not follow the right process as stated in the Election Manuals and the constitution. LP lawyers brought boxes of INEC certified blurred results, mutilated results, incomplete results of all the states where Obi was leading, so that the judges can count and confirm if truly Tinubu won the election based on those records.

So let the judges count the ballots and tell us what they discovered. The legal team know what the scores should be but let’s see whether the court also did their own research here.

If I were you, I’d wait for the final judgment, not ask for election scores. What you should be asking is why someone was announced as the winner with mutilated and blurred results!

If Obi legal team has said he won the election APC legal team would have capitalize on it by also asking how did Obi counted the blurred copies and technicality will come in.

Finally, someone with brain. In LP's reply to INEC's final address, they did say INEC has not demonstrated that the top documents (Ec38As) actually exist. If they do, why then did they certify iREV, oblivious of the fact that by law, certified documents means copies of originals. Otherwise, how then did they declare a winner with blurred or blank results? People don't know that 'noncompliance' is LP's best case. INEC was hoping they'll harp on the claim that they won. In all of LP's reply I have never seen a stronger argument. They played it well. Only discerning minds know how to work a system that's rigged against them (INEC).

Emekaphilip360:
There’s a need for a revolution in this country. Look at how politicians are taking 190Million people for a fool. Are we too docile or what? Big brother naija in this hard time?

Especially when the court matter is still on. You mean someone is going to buy fuel of 650 to watch bbnaija? This is really absurd!

What kind of distraction is this ? They don’t want war to happen I guess. We obidients won’t be distracted by this at all.

You just can wonder how the powers that be manage to tame the energetic youths once they sense we're teetering towards the tipping point as a nation.
For now, we will leave discussing critical issues affecting the economy. People adjust and get use to the present conditions. It's actually textbook manipulation (for those that know about power creed). The manipulated won't believe they're being manipulated.

One big fish can sponsor the entire show but hide under endorsements from known franchises. I just dey laff.

EndSars was a mistake. It would only take another mistake before they allow anything close to it. The people have been tamed.

We go dey alright las las.

See this one. Who will certify them, you or the APC INEC? I'm sure you're not aware it is crucial. In, the end the man only pleaded things within the limits of what he can prove.

We will all bear the brunt of the lawlessness in Nigeria.

Afamed:
It's not too late. Tell Obi to present the results he got from his polling agents to the court.

ABI since he disagrees with results the Inec presented, the ideal things to do is to present the ones he has in his custody

Obi Sabi use una head well well

Like you're useless to your family? Nigeria has been heaven to you since 2015 with all your hustle? You come life come work till you die? Idiots everywhere. Tribalism means you can't demand for good governance? Stop sounding foolish like Buhari's kins did for 8 years. Every taxpaying citizen has the right to call out government's inadequacies.

People that can no longer commute easily to work are those with wayward lives? Or is it the mechanics that don't have jobs again because people are no longer using their cars? You're not well.

Fugazy2023:
Baba, don't mind those bunch of lazy failures. Most of them are useless to themselves and there family. They don't have sense and cannot do anything with there empty brains. Lazy set of fools that cannot amount to anything in life even if Jesus Christ personally install a president. Always insulting and blaming even for things caused by there stupid wayward lives

jyz200:
Nice one from nans

When pressure groups sell the soul of their movement, they lose their bite, not necessarily voice. NANS is as useless as the p in psychology. NLC is towing the same path. Tribalism is eating up the fabric of society on the other end. Pharaohs don't show mercy, they only kow-tow to force.

Protest for where? with whom?
The masses are in for a long thing. Last last na we go beg ourselves to protest.

Lol. Agbadorians. Even if the judgement is eventually dispensed, they'll keep ruminating about PO. "I can't wait.... , I can't wait... then simply wait and stop disturbing yourself. Like SAN is an honorary title, regardless of the silks' infallibility.

Lotanna2:
You still don't get it.obi and atiku failed to prove that the blurring was from inec.tjey failed to compare it with the hardcopies which is fatal...inec certified server or online copies of bvas data in osun but yet the court rejected them for the original copies

The substance of both cases are different, INEC certified 2 different things for the same purpose. I wont dwell on the issue of certification since the respondents didn't dispute them. In fact, Wole (SAN) even attributed the blur to printing, photocopying error etc. Meaning they acknowledge it's from INEC, and what was used to declare BAT (the response is online).

In any case, no matter how we interprete it, there is one incontrovertible fact, INEC didn't follow their prescribed guidelines (which are like laws on their own) and admitted to it by calling it 'glitch'. Unless, the court discountenance that fact, I don't see how the election will not be cancelled.

Lotanna2:
Atiku failed to discharge burden of proof.instead of him to prove his allegations,he expected inec to prove or discharge the burden.

Lol. I understand you're basing your arguments on original EC38As and not copies. The answer is, INEC couldn't certify them, instead they blurred the uploaded copies to hide the irregularities, and they didn't dispute them as same as originals (see attached). There are laws even backing it.

I don't think you appreciate what it means for a petioner to prove a case against a complicit umpire. INEC was trying to protect themselves and BAT, but they failed in both. By certifying 18k blurred results, how then did they declare BAT? 18K PUs is substantial. That's why I said what the petitioners could rely on is the NON COMPLIANCE issue (PO did well in that area). Someday in the future, our laws should not make INEC a judge in it's own case.

Lol. Let me try and understand your arguments for once. It is true that neither PO nor AA could prove they won the highest lawful votes cast. I read both responses thoroughly. But guess what? The 1st respondents couldn't prove that BAT did same. Why? the umpire (INEC) simply conducted elections and flew the evidence to Mars (figurative). They couldn't defend what they declared (e.g. EC38A for rivers). PO was able to prove however, that he won in Rivers and Benue (making a total of 14 states).

Now, the thrust of both petitions is NON-COMPLIANCE with electoral law. It has also been established that INEC guidelines are not rhetoric, they're backed by the law with which it operates.

Possible verdict: Rerun (unless the court feels such departure from the law is not substantial). The FCT issue will set a precedent, no need arguing about that. Whether BAT will partake in the rerun or not depends on the other issues. In all, let justice be seen to be done.

Confirmedzombie:
I spent almost one hour reading this brief from obi lawyers.

No mention of how many votes he got, no mention of how he obi won the election but only wants a rerun or cancellation.

I think obi must as a matter of urgency demand for refunds from his legal team.

I suspect obi lawyers were bribed to write this brief.

This is End of the road for obi.

Lotanna2:
Irev are secondary results.obi should have brought blurred hardcopy

You should have also read AA's reply about the 'burden of proof'. With what results did INEC declare BAT winner, if they certified the iREV results? Were there any other results with them? If yes, why did they not use them in their defence? In simple terms, INEC had no defence. But they may have won on one ground: a possible rerun since they dont have hard copy evidence of all valid votes cast at PUs. Whether BAT will participate is an issue no one can preempt.

I have read both, try and do same. If for anything, it won't make you argue blindly.

Arapmoi22:
Don't expect such from hypocrites.

You go school so? Do you know what response/reply means? Can you reply to something that wasn't cited?

Almiron:
It seems SA want to become history.

I thought they said he won’t be attending the submit. Even the US Courts can’t pass such law.

South Africa dey play 🤣😂

They knew he won’t attend the meeting, I guess that’s why they are gallivanting, of course if he’s going to attend, he will show and return to Russia in one piece. I repeat nobody weda dem born you through anus or through surgery fit arrest President Putin.

You simply don't understand the real lesson: SA is a country where the law is supreme. That's the meaning of having strong institutions. Can you say that about the third world country where you live?

Those who sought court injunction would have been in DSS custody now. Lol.

ryloy:
From BORROWING to SAVING.... 1 trillion Naira

Congratulations to all sane NIGERIANS

https://twitter.com/DeeOneAyekooto/status/1682137444311867392

Propaganda will be the end of some of you. Subsidy removal and taxation generated that fund (not export). The least they can do is build refineries or invest in the power sector which will stimulate the economy. But no, Agbadorians can't reason. Money they're still going to share when things get dire. It is well with you.

FacilitatorLekk:
Source oga...you want us to believe junk news?

Lol. When your papa get court case, you go know how far. People acting like Nigeria can surprise them. All our institutions are gone (INEC, DSS, ARMY, NA, JUDICIARY). This is state-capture. People will soon realize the depth of the political sagacity they praise BAT for. Nigeria might end because of his ambition.

tinsel:
He is too insignificant for the Nigeria authorities to deal with him.

Lol. This one still thinks Nigeria is a country. E go soon clear for una eyes. Defend all you can

Someone said, it's remaining "CJN to wear his own make everywhere balm".

A nation that make ordinary men strong, but strong institutions weaker, is DOOMED.

SpecialAdviser:
How can someone saying he won't celebrate his 50th birthday in 2013 mean that his 50th birthday was that year? These people are irredeemable

Say the truth, don't be ashamed; did you read the articles? You're all react to headlines. After elections, you're still looking for dirt on this man. He's not the reason you're grinding yourself to survive shegenomics. Simple analogy you can't make.

How are we now going to know now that you've voted a disaster? Aren't we back to where we have always been? (The what ifs and maybes). Leaders are as human as the rest of us. If we fail to judge their character correctly (because of sentiments), we can't appraise their competence objectively. It is BAT'S character that's influencing his leadership style. You can't judge PO by his intentions and tell us not to judge BAT by his actions. Deal with the truth for once.

leksite120:
He's not going to remove anything by half. All these talks are easier said. if I have the opportunity to talk and make promises, I would say almost the same or something even better..

Moreover, the money for subsidy was not even paid by the government to NNPC, hope you know that?
According to NNPC , not as dime was paid by Buhari, meaning Nigeria does not even have the money to be subsidizing in the first place, Buhari is just a coward who doesn't want people to blame him and keep making things worse for us on the long run.

Imagine if NNPC isn't government owned and we have to pay all those debts of fuel subsidy, don't you think it'll be calamitous to us..

We have to rise past all these trying to always blame the government, at least the done has been done, we just have to follow up and support.. Don't make leaders do what is abnormal all because we want them to always satisfy us.

What people always expect is that if a leader assume office, there should be instant 24hrs electricity, 20 refineries and all..

And sometimes you'll just wonder if all these people have never held a position before to be deceiving followers with all these I'll do this, I'll do that.
Peter obi was once a member of the economic team of Jonathan, still nothing. He was a Governor of a state, still nothing.. so why should you just suddenly believe he's going to be extra as a number one citizen.

crossfm:
Hehehe.

The situation is really not funny.

Will like the supporters and non supporter's of this present administration to understand that we are in this together.

We can criticize but let's be constructive. And as for those supporting,pls use your sense. Let's call a spade a spade.

They were not even magnanimous in their pyrrhic victory. We tried warning them that politics is different from governance (which affects lives). Now, the masses are more divided than ever, they can't form an alliance and everyone suffers but the crooks in power.

grandstar:
All the top 4 presidential contestants said they would remove subsidies, so there's no difference between half a dozen and 6. It would have the same consequence/

The reason why petrol price might have shot up is because of the increase in the crude oil price. Also, the CBN has not done enough to kill inflation. Until its interest rates are higher than inflation, expect inflationary pressure to remain high.

What the country needs now is a new central bank governor capable of battling inflation and given the independence to do his job.

I guess this defence line is from your WhatsApp headquarters, but it is very lame. That they say married men are perceived to be responsible doesn't mean they're responsible in the same way (running the family) to achieve different results (your household values are different from others). I know it's hard, but accept you supported a man without knowledge of basic economics. Removing subsidy and floating Naira (for petrol importing nation), at the same time.

What a clueless accountant (cum economist).

Supremos:
Deji is calling for Revolution to topple Tinubu's government.

The truth is that nobody is willing to go through another 4yrs of hardship after Buhari's 8yrs of madness

The funny thing is that Obidients have lost the will to protest. I predicted this after INEC declared BAT and people supported the charade. Now that it's their turn to call for fairness, no one is interested. Guess who wins? The same politicians. The people have long lost out because they bought what politicians sold them (bigotry). The masses can never win, at least not this generation.

Lol. Back to the stone. Everyone trekking and exchanging pleasantries regardless of tribe.

abhosts:
Obi called fuel subsidy 'organised crime' that needs to go. Does that sound like someone who wanted to be methodical in removing it?

Lol. You're among those that copy chapter one of someone's work and rush to submit. Go to PO's twitter page, you will see the methodical approach. Una use full chest support nonsense, but are too ashamed to admit it. That all men with family are perceived to be responsible doesn't mean they all run their family the same way or achieve the same result. BAT is running Nigeria how he knows how to, don't hide behind PO.

tete7000:
If Obi had come in and remove subsidy, it would have been the same thing.

Lol. How I detest this comment. Adults sounding like kids. Since all family men are perceived to be responsible, do they run their homes the same way? Are the outcomes of their leadership the same? You folks can't admit you were poor in your judgement of the issues surrounding the last elections. Nigerians missed it.

When Nigerians are tired, tribalism will fly out the window.

It takes a personal moral value to reject it. At best such person would trend on twitter. What we're talking about is institutional immorality (audacity to pad a budget to share). The system allows it, the change would need to be systemic. An analogy is, if it can't happen under a military regime, what enables it in our democracy? If we can address that as citizens, then we'd have solved our problems.

tommy589:
Not a single member in the house that is condemning it Rejecting what you will benefit is forbidden to Nigerian politicians

APC,PDP,LP,APGA,NNPP are all criminals if vested with power

The day Nigerians become fed up, there will be no tribalism. Until then, let's the talakawas keep fighting themselves in defense of the United crooks.

Every generation keep laying the same foundation for their kids. Some will come here to claim billionaires, even though their grandmas don't have health insurance.

I've always said when someone doesn't learn to separate propaganda from truth, it makes them sound unintelligent. PO didn't graduate with third class. Intelligent ko, intelligentsia ni.

Many of you will fail basic logic test.

walex2:
You are one of the intelligent guy in this forum, sometimes I just feel like puking reading some comment here online, no wonder their emperor was a third class graduate, when they mention Osun case they quickly forget that by that judgement the precedent will follow the supreme court judgement, I do ask them that APC lawyers were too wise, they deliberately made a resolution that none of the legal team must address the press. When they talk about FCT votes we always tell them that constitution will never make Abuja votes more superior than Abia or Kano votes. Whenever they talk about drug Case I always remember them that thesame Tinubu have been a senator and two term Governor. If Obasanjo and Jonathan could not remove Tinubu when he was in opposition it must be fooly of you to think that TINUBU will be sacked as a sitting president. What Moronic obi supporters we have here

Benny90:
My point still remains that, for this Nigeria wey you dey see so, no be everybody dey suffer some of us are really doing fine....because you are suffering doesn't mean we should all suffer together 😎 bro/babe go discuss with the op on our una go fit better una life and if you think Naija is in not habitable try Ghana or Cameroon... you wont be missed

Lol. I can't help but laugh. Typical Nigerian. When you estimate what you think you do to maintain a comfortable lifestyle in Nigeria, you'd realize you've used more of your productive life chasing $$$ life than your contemporaries in developed nations.

Same results, but different efforts and satisfaction. That's what makes Nigeria a worse case scenario. You think all of us with contrary views are from the trenches?

The day you realize you're constantly an endangered specie in Nigeria (even with your $$), your mentality will change. Some poor people in developed nations have better sense of worth than most of you in Nigeria. E be lie say one politician cat never oppress you before. I just dey laff. Go and read up what a failed state means.