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shegzee43:
There is discrimination everywhere in the world and that requires a professional to be armed with that level of emotional intelligence to help glide through all kinds of situations. For example, I know the kind of people I work with, and I don't talk or banter unnecessarily, I do my job and that's it.

Yep.

lagonovo:
Why bother with subtle nuanced behaviors? If the person is not bold enough to boldly make a stand on something that relates to me then I don't see that as any business of mine. I am not a mind or code reader.

You should bother about it because that person often is a person that will make a decision that impacts you. A landlord that decides who to rent to, a manager that decides who to promote or send on a training, a company that decides who to give a contract to, etc. There are lots of implications in a nutshell.

It's who she is and you can't change her. Just don't take it to heart too much, you will be fine.

nairalanda1:
A simple example...in the UK, a group called the National Action which hates immigrants has been unable to hold marches openly because the government no let them

50 years ago, in the same UK, groups like the National Front, which were anti-immigrant.(and from which National Action is descended from)...could march and say what they wanted to say, and no one would do nothing.

There is room for improvement though. I didn't say it is uhuru yet.

Fair enough, compared to the days of "No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs", it has improved. But the fact that anti-immigrant parties & organisations like UKIP and EDL still exist in the UK and have members says a lot.

nairalanda1:
True that, though to be honest, racism HAS diminished in many parts of the world...BUT IT IS still there.

On what basis do you feel it has diminished?
I think in some countries, it's just more subtle now.

TheCongo2:
With respect to the bolded, you mean that everyone who had experience racism was because of something wrong they have done.
Here we go with blaming the victim

Some of those saying they've never experienced it after staying for years are either totally oblivious or just not self aware.

Gerrard59:
A significant number of Japanese will not sit beside a foreigner who is non-East Asian except the train is full. When I went for an interview for my first part-time job, I used a narrow path which led to the train station, so I reduced time. More like short-cut in Nigerian parlance. At the point of entering it, one Japanese woman also entered. Few seconds later, she dey begin dey waka very fast while looking back. At one point, I wanted to say in Japanese that I am harmless, but my instincts kicked in, "don't say anything". Few seconds after that, she begin dey run o. Meanwhile, wetin dey my mind na how to arrive at the train station on time, so I reach the interview venue.

Other than that, nothing else. The Emperor hasn't threatened to push me into the Sea of Japan.

Now imagine if that woman had turned out to be your interviewer 😂

Ashirioluwa:
This fraudulent lady has turned Nigeria into a beggar's market.

When are you going to stop this begging scam?

You registered an account on Nairaland with different usernames every day just to defraud innocent people.

@nicely was the name you used yesterday; today is @welness.

Lazy, fraudulent people like you won't allow the needy to get help.

See her previous posts with different names.

Not just that, she initially makes a comment that would attract many likes, then comes back to edit and paste her scamming begging message. They keep banning her and she keeps opening new accounts. I think at this point the bot needs to be programmed to automatically delete any post with "Angela Oyom" or whatever her name is.

ibinaboonline:
Thank you o.

Even after you stated that you have learnt that people don't read and so gave them 2 options, they still went ahead to prove you right once again by not reading I just shook my head, my naija people ehn. Lol.

Our very own star girl! Dem won dull her star, but dem no go succeed.

tetralogyfallot:
I stopped reading the article as I did not see the real deal. Is it fuel economy? Is it cheap parts? Is it durability? Is it dependability? This beast has it all.

Did you read the link which he mentioned has the full details?

Myer:
I have addressed this already. It is difficult for me Yoruba not to be tribalistic towards majority of Igbos presently, even a detribalized person.

I know for a fact that I am not tribalkstic because I am interceding for your tribe and trusting God concerning you and yours, as many as will come to receive God's Mercy to see that it is not only enough to call the name of Jesus, but to do His will by departing from iniquity.

Until you see yourselves as Christians frist before Igbo, you are not worthy to follow Jesus Christ.
Until you become loyal to God first and begin to look on to Jesus Christ as the Author and Finisher of your faith, you will keep being loyal to your tribe and working against God where your tribe errs.

3 things Igbos need to change;

1. God resists the proud. So pray for the spirit of humility because your culture and tradition teaches you to be proud and even proud of your pride. This is infact evident in how you exhibit superiority complex over other tribes.

2. Love of Money. I don't need to elaborate on this. As much as every person and tribe is prone to this, your tribe and culture instills and institutionalised this in most of you. We know Contentment is God's Will, not love of money.

3. Idolatry. So many igbos are still affiliated with their gods in their home towns even after professing to give their lives to Christ. Also there is the Catholicism idolatry. Majority of igbos are catholics.

If you were to be instrospective, you will know that I have studied and carefully observed the strengths and weaknesses of the Igbos as I have done some other tribes, including Yorubas.

When I see Yorubas and other tribes manifesting pride and other vices peculiar to the tribe, I like wise minister to them accordingly.

In fact I was at a point more ashamed of Yoruba's than Igbos. Until I realised the difference is simple; Yoruba tribe teaches Humility, however that humility can become perverted and instead of instilling humility it does the opposite.

I hope you will receive this and not think I'm attacking igbos. I am hoping you will be the Light in your family and circle of influence by God's grace.

So me pointing out your tribalism now makes me Igbo? And not about a Christian pointing out a fellow Christian's un-Christlike behavior?

You should remove the log in your eyes before acting as judge over an entire group based on your mindset which you have enabled to be polluted from what you feed it daily especially on this toxic forum. Be the LIGHT as the Christian you portray yourself to be, instead of supporting darkness. Myer, kindly go and renew your mind rather than being a religious pharisee justifying prejudice.

You are a prejudiced tribalistic individual and you keep trying to justify it from different angles. Repent!! We should treat people as human beings, not as Igbos or Yorubas or whatever they are, because we are all humans first and foremost, and Christ died for ALL.

SAY NO TO PREJUDICE AND TRIBALISM. Especially as someone who claims to be a Christian.

Myer:
The Word of God which is the basis of my posts accomplishes innumerable purposes according to God's will.

2Tim.3.16 - All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
2Tim.3.17 - that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

It can be to preach the gospel of salvation to sinners.
It can be to encourage believers.
It can be to confront unrepentant sinners.
It can be to even woe Pharisees and saduccess (false teachers/prophets/ministers).

You can't confine the Word of God to suit your pleasure. It is meant to illumiinate you to your blind-spots and cause you to repent.
To help you seek the only One who can help you.
To transform you as you follow and obey Christ with the right heart.

As long as what I post aligns with God's Word, it is God's Will. Where you err, be humble to receive correction.

Matt.10.34 - "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
Matt.10.35 - For I have come to "set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law';
Matt.10.36 - and "a man's enemies will be those of his own household.'
Matt.10.37 - He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.

I hope this answers your question.

It is up to you to keep trying to justify your prejudice and tribalism. It's the Holy Spirit alone that can convict you because you are currently living in denial.

If you like, paste theological arguments from morning till night, if you don't practice the fundamental commandment of Christ which is loving God and loving your neighbour as yourself, your theology is of no use.

Myer:
Old testament was about the chosen tribe of Israel against every other tribe.
Jesus Christ was sent strictly to the lost sheep of Israel (Jews)
He only healed the few Gentiles (non-Jews) whose faith He found astounding.

We are the Gentiles. We only received God's Grace because Jesus Christ has now died for all of us to receive Grace to become the Tribe of God as many as Believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Who humble themselves to obey and do God's will.

Whoever walks against God's will, those who fall under such category whether Yoruba or Igbo or Jew or Gentile, will suffer the same fate/consequences of anyone who goes against God's will.

As long as you're anti-God's Will that makes you anti-Christ.
As long as you're proud, that makes God resist you.

The question you should rather ask yourself, is your tribe teaching and spurring you to do God's will or to disobey God's will.

God bless you.

Just go through your posts and ask yourself
Are your comments divisive or unifying?
Are your comments promoting peace?
Are your comments truly glorifying God?
Are your comments biased against Igbos or not?
Are your comments prejudiced or not?

Myer:
It's not about me sir. it's about God's will.
However and Whatever God wills, I follow.

God will never promote tribalism and prejudice so please don't call His Name in this.

Myer:
If I had agreed with you that Yorubas are tribalistic, would that have made me a better Christian to you?

I speak the Truth as gracefully as God's Grace permits.
While every tribe has the tendency to be tribalistic and truly are. The majority of the Igbo demographic have been tribalized beyond human repair.

Only God can intervene now.

Very typical, trying to deflect. We are talking about YOU being tribalistic, not Yorubas.
All I will leave you with is this:
Just go through your posts and ask yourself
Are your comments divisive or unifying?
Are your comments promoting peace?
Are your comments truly glorifying God?
Are your comments biased against Igbos or not?

If you truly are a believer, the Holy Spirit will surely convict you. Until then, continue in your deception that you are not a tribalistic prejudiced individual.

Myer:
He has proven by this singular act that he carries the Igbo spirit.

1. He has desecrated the Yoruba gods and heritage.
2. He has displayed pride.

Pride they say comes before fall.
Unless these are not true monarchs.

As much as a believer now believes and worships the one True God, he is still obligated to give honor to whom it is due- especially the established authorities.

Jesus Christ and apostles could wipe out the Roman King and other leaders but they honored them.

I believe this is meant to expose certain things concerning our human traditions and heritage as tribes. We need to Know that even our ethnic and tribal affiliations have to be subjected to the Word of God.

You can't be tribalistic if you're a believer.
Yet Obidients are tribalistic.
Even those who were not tribalistic have been made to react tribalistically.

God help and save us all.

Myer, this is so so wrong especially coming from someone who portrays himself as a Christian.

Just go through your posts and ask yourself
Are your comments divisive or unifying?
Are your comments promoting peace?
Are your comments truly glorifying God?
Are your comments biased against Igbos or not?

You are clearly prejudiced. Your mind has been poisoned by tribalism. You constantly castigate one tribe but not yours and think you are detribalized, no, you are deceived. That is why you can write: "You can't be tribalistic if you're a believer" without realizing it is speaking to you.

You preach and preach but do not practice what you are preaching.

BGSM:
Please don’t allow your wife to pay house rent, children school fees and family feedings. Let her use her discretion without you forcing or dictating to her to support you in doing any of the mentioned above. Any time she emphasizes on anything she has done in the house, then stop her from doing it, may God continue to provide for you and always do things within your limit. Note, most women have no brain 🧠 until calamity set in before they know the reality of life. From people experience and research.

NSNO:
Nigerian parents don't think about mental health. It's either the person is normal or mad. No other category.

chronique:
I don't know why people buy awards to make themselves feel more important. It's a form of mental health issues they do not know. As a young man doing well in business, you are already an important personality. You have succeeded in a country where success is not easily achieved and you should be proud of yourself. You don't need to start patronizing roadside award vendors and merchants to make yourself feel important. You are already important. Keep working hard and developing. The most important awards you can have, are the lives that you touch while alive. Whoever knows the Elvis guy, should tell him.

Word.

Nigerians' thirst for awards is something I have never understood.

Originalsly:
Again... I'm not saying it's OK to tender forged certificates. Don't overlook that I said this is what I think happened.... I'm assuming there was a deadline ... he couldn't get an official copy in time so he forged one. Would I do that? No. Would I advise someone to do same? No. If I employed someone who tendered a forge document and I find out later ... would I keep him as an employee?... even if he had the qualifications but just the certificate was forged ... as we presume in this case? No ... I'll fire him. But I have the power to do that ... I'm not bound by any laws or regulations. In Tinubu's case... he cannot be removed from office unless blah blah blah. Does presenting a forged duplicate fall under the blah blah blah regulations that require his removal? I don't think so. But.... I'm sure there are other actions that can be taken against him ... I guess reprimand ... maybe impeachment or whatever is outlined in the disciplinary action book.

And yes... I'm aware forgery is a crime. Are you aware he is the sitting President and is immune to most crimes while in office? Maybe after he steps down ... like Trump ... then all his shenanigans can be brought to court. Hope I made a little sense somewhere.

That was what I was trying to understand, your viewpoint if this was a personal situation, which you've clearly expressed.
All clear.
Cheers.

Originalsly:
Yes... "experts " is referring to forgers. I'm not a supporter of forgery . Take what I wrote in context .... this is about the attempt to unseat Tinubu. This is different from someone presenting a forged certificate... one that shows he has passed certain exams when he did not. After all .... is he qualified or not? ... CSU can say.... if they confirm... then on what grounds he should step down? It can't be he was unqualified.....so why Atiku is making fussung?

Originalsly:
This certificate thing is not making any sense .... CSU needs to only verify if Tinubu graduated and was presented a certificate in 1979. What he does with it after should not be their concern. What I think really happened is Tinubu either misplaced his certificate .... or his certificate was damaged and could not get a duplicate before the presentation deadline. He then got the "experts " to replace it but they didn't research well enough to get the correct information that was missing. At the end of the day..... even if he presented a fake certificate ... that cannot remove him from office... so what's the point? Why not spend this energy in being an effective opposition leader and keeping Tinubu and his administration in check?

Forget Pres. Tinubu for a minute, let me understand your reasoning.

Assuming you misplace your original certificate, then it's okay to ask "experts" to forge a copy to replace it when you can simply request for a replacement? Or if the deadline for a replacement (assuming there is one) passes, then it's okay to forge it?

The kind of people I am seeing on NL these days is scary. You are boldly saying there is nothing wrong with forgery provided you graduated (I pasted your initial comment for reference)

Politics aside, are you aware that forgery is a crime?

kkins25:
🤣 🤣.. Fun times men..
Atleast, I have enough stories to use against them now..
🤣🤣🤣

hahaha, I can imagine 😂.

kkins25:
Nobody is saying staying with kids isn't a hard job. Nonetheless, its not as difficult as going out there to earn money. No-where close. I practically raised my siblings. I will keep baby at one side while playing my video game, cooking with firewood while chatting on 2go.. My mom was employed, so was dad..Was it preparing baby food or feeding baby? Was it washing baby cloths? When baby turned two, during holidays, i bathed them. fed them, clothes them, in many occasions still cook. My mum was living her best life then. lol.. 😂 😂 😂

will the babies remain babies for ever? Abegiiiii..... By 5 years old, children are already doing house chores? by 15 they have completely taken over from mum except maybe cooking... So, tell me, what is mom doing

Even now, I handle domestic chores and provide for the family. Between domestic work and job, nothing makes me go crazy like job. Nothing!!!

Hahahaha
Jokes aside, it's amazing you took so much responsibility for your younger ones and I can bet you all must be quite close as adults. Reading your comment just made me laugh as I could picture it. Nice one.

casualobserver:
I am not seeing this from a political perspective. I am probably one of the most o next I’ve posters on Nairaland. Again I say you are the one missing the point…..there is. Nothing you can do about it under the law.

Secondly since you admit. You are not familiar with the case, maybe you should resist the temptation to comment on matters you are not conversant with?

As per the emboldened, Again I say many Nigerians speak but lack basic English comprehension. You are arguing a matter I never said, where did I say it is fine?

The person who responded to your comment that "Even if Chicago says the certificate is forged..." said:

jude33084:
We deserves what we get in Nigeria honestly.

We are here to know the truth at least don't you agree?

We deserve to know who or what our president is?

These were your own words below:
- I am interested in someone who can turn this country around. I couldn’t care less if he has never seen the walls of a school or not.
The guy's point was that if the certificate was forged, Nigerians deserve to know, you replied that you couldn't care less. Basically, whether a certificate is forged or not doesn't bother you. Is that not simple deductive reasoning?

casualobserver:
I am not seeing this from a political perspective. I am probably one of the most objective posters on Nairaland. Again I say you are the one missing the point…..there is. Nothing you can do about it under the law.

If anyone is biased and Unobjective her, it is clearly you. You are accusing him of certificate forgery, the university has said he attended and graduated. Why would a man forge his certificate knowing there was controversy over it before? You are the ones accusing, you are the ones to prove. Why am I joining issues over accusations that are not proven? Same way you accused him of drug dealing when the US government said officially no there were so convictions or criminal records. You have a track record of manufacturing Bull why would o anyone take you guys seriously? When you have something to prove, fine. Until then I am only saying as far as this election cycle is concerned, it does not matter anymore.

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I can see you amended your post, so let me reply your subsequent paragraph.
If you were truly an objective poster as you claim, please explain how my asking you a question about your stance that even IF a forgery took place it's not a big deal equates me being among the YOU that "accused him of forgery and accused him of drug dealing!". Your bias is shining forth brightly. Who are the YOU? Why are you grouping me with the YOU in your mind simply because I asked you a simple question?

What a shame. See what politics has done to people's sense of reasoning. This one is no longer unconscious bias. It is blatant, and you are here trying to deny it when it is all over your post. Well done!

casualobserver:
My friend please use your brains. Even if he is a drug dealer, even if he lied on everything in his form, even if his not a Nigerian, even if there Bola Tinubu is not his name, there is nothing you can do now. You cannot introduce at the Supreme Court what you did not introduce at the PEPT. Why is it so hard for so called educated people to understand this very basic concept?

You still do not get the point. As long as you are seeing this from a political perspective you can't.
Not everyone is interested in the nonsense political tribal back and forth people come here to do. The point is no normal person should say IF a forgery was committed, it is fine and not a big deal, unless your value system is wack. If that is the case, then just say so.

Would you be okay with an employee of your company presenting a forged certificate? Put sentiments aside and be objective in your reasoning.

XAUBulls:
You've said it all... I'm fuming as
I type this as a veteran member of this forum from its inception. Can't folks from around the world just have peace of mind on this NL website and threads again?!

Seun Osewa has completely failed in sanitizing this website as promised this year! His newest moderator deliberately keeps pushing to the front page the NL threads of 5 well-known ethnic bigots and others who relentlessly use curse words, incitements, hate speech and criminally defamatory posts, without punishing them for toxic cyber bullying and constantly violating rules 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, 19. There's massive online evidence for this.


It is time for the national intelligence agencies to step in and ensure they get all the administrators of these online platforms to take responsibility for encouraging hate speech, fake news, and outright defamation by these bigots.

I want to see these toxic posters in jail after being charged to court tbh.

Maybe you should start by practicing what you preach. Busy be promoting divisive comments with one hand and then condemning it with the other. Take a look in the mirror first. Hypocrites everywhere.

casualobserver:
The election has been won. This is how Atiku spent all his energies chasing shadows with Buhari’s certificate after he lost leaving g him with no time to reflect aand strategize for the 2023 elections. What happened? He lost again in 2023.

There is nothing you are going to introduce now that can affect the decision of the Supreme Court. Even if Chicago says the certificate is forged it is too late to introduce it as evidence. The Supreme Court can o Lu decide based on what was I introduced into evidence at the PEPT.

You guys think you are embarrassing Tinubu but you are just making a mockery of all Nigerians on the international stage.

You didn’t lose this election because of forfeiture or certificate or INEC, you lost because you split your votes into 4 camps…PDP, NNPP,LP & G5.

casualobserver:
I am interested in someone who can turn this country around. I couldn’t care less if he has never seen the walls of a school or not. If he didn’t go to school but has shown a track record that he is the best on offer then he is the man. With due respect to the 3 main candidates, Obi was the least qualified in terms of capacity. He was 8 years a governor, what did he leave behind as a legacy? The Awolowo that is constantly cited today was only in office for 5 years!! 8 yrs is enough to know if a man has what it takes…obi doesn’t. I don’t like PDP but even Atiku is way ahead of Obi. He has shown capacity to bring in the right people like ElRufai, NOI etc. Who did Obi bring in his 8 years as governor?

If we are talking education, Obi is the least educated of the 4. This in addition to having by a country mile, the worst track record in office. So please rest!

That clearly wasn't the point the person you quoted was making. An uneducated person can be blessed with wisdom, and performance is not a function of education. However, it's a different issue entirely if forgery was involved in this matter, that's not something to casually sweep under the carpet. Would you be okay with an employee of your company presenting a forged certificate? Let's put sentiments aside and evaluate issues objectively. I have not been following this case to know the details, but to see some people trying to say it's okay even if it was forged is very disturbing.

Originalsly:
This certificate thing is not making any sense .... CSU needs to only verify if Tinubu graduated and was presented a certificate in 1979. What he does with it after should not be their concern. What I think really happened is Tinubu either misplaced his certificate .... or his certificate was damaged and could not get a duplicate before the presentation deadline. He then got the "experts " to replace it but they didn't research well enough to get the correct information that was missing. At the end of the day..... even if he presented a fake certificate ... that cannot remove him from office... so what's the point? Why not spend this energy in being an effective opposition leader and keeping Tinubu and his administration in check?

And we wonder why the rest of the world sees Nigerians as scammers. Would you be okay with an employee of your company providing a fake certificate? How do we even reason in this country for goodness sake?!!!!!

By the way, what do you mean by "experts" especially as you put it in quotes? Are you referring to forgers? If so, you clearly have no values.

I personally feel the president should be allowed to focus on governing the country, but to extend that to justifying forgery (if that was the case) is a no no.

iammo:
My papa was a federal civil servant making his income and raising me in a proper way

A quick question, is this how your father and mother trained you to talk to strangers or it's your mum's Concubine that taught you

That's very rich coming from you, were you not the one writing all manner of curses and calling strangers lunatics just yesterday and you are here talking about being raised in a proper way and talking properly?! Or was that someone else?

Nice thread Skyview01.

With the kind of mindset you have and your thirst for money, it's a question of time before you fall into the wrong hands.