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A referendum must be conducted! I'm an Igbo man, I never asked Lugard to come from Europe to make me a 'Nigerian'

coolcharm:
Will these people ever learn? When you opt for civil disobedience, you shoot yourself in the foot.

The seems to have forgotten the brutality of the civil war.

They refuse to tell themselves the truth.

They think UN, EU, et al will support them at war time? They are so so wrong. Ask Syria.

Infact these people are looking for ways to de populate the world through zika, ebola etc. Sef.

The should be ready to make huge sacrifices and pay good price with plenty of lives and properties for their ambitions tho.

I wish them whatever they invite upon themselves.

Long Live the Federal Republic of Nigeria!

The people who don't learn are Nigerians who think that they can have a nation through "unity by enforcement". A referendum is long overdue so that the indigenous people who Lord Lugard stole their lands to create Nigeria can finally reclaim what is rightfully theirs.

When IPOB protested, they were shot at. They said it was because it was Biafra.


Doctors have now protested, they were shot at. What is the excuse this time? They are Biafran Doctors?

[b]In 1961, Murtala Ramat Mohammed graduated from the prestigious Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, England and returned to Nigeria where he was commissioned into the Nigerian Army as a second Lieutenant. However, Murtala was not happy with the Nigerian Army he met and felt the level of professionalism was below what was required. At the time Murtala was on a Military tactics course in NMTC Kaduna and Major Ojukwu ( as he then was at the time) was his chief instructor. Murtala approached Ojukwu and told him that he had made up his mind to resign from the Army. Ojukwu talked Murtala out of resigning and even suggested to him to join the newly created signals corps. Shortly after this, Ojukwu was redeployed to Lagos where he became the first indigenous quarter-master general of the Nigerian Army while Murtala,who had heeded Ojukwus advice, joined the signals corps and was sent on a signals course to Catterik, England.


As history would have it,General Ironsi would later make Murtala head of the signals corps, a position Murtala used to organise the Nothern counter coup that would kill Ironsi and over 300 Igbo officers which precipitated the northern pogroms that killed a further 50,000 Easterners and led to the declaration of Biafra and the civil war that followed.

Source: "Emeka" by Frederick Forsyght

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It's good that Nigerians see that it is not only elements of the Lower Niger that are seeking independence in Africa.

bloodyBLOGGER:
the fact that you speak and bear and english name doesn't make you an English man.

Igbo is a language that can be spoken by any tribe or person without necessarily having to be Igbo.

Aniomas are not Igbos- Okowa 2016

Yes the fact that a person has an English name and speaks English doesn't make that person English. However, when a person speaks Igbo as his ancestral language and has an Igbo name, that person had better tell me what they are because Anioma is not an ethnic group in Nigeria.

asadike:
Buhari, abeg, i take muhammed beg u. Release kanu biko Many have died for just one man,how many more will die? My people are not like boko haram, we are very intelligent and soon enough, u might not be able to stand d heat in d kitchen. My people value their lives a lot and for them to willingly lose it for kanu means it is now a do or die affair. I beg u, leave junketing for osinbande, come back home, your country is sitting on a keg of gun powder .

Nobody is dying because of Kanu. People are dying because the APC Government is shooting them.

MonPro:
No news. It is okay for EVERY GOVERNOR AND POLITICIAN to denounce Biafra they have much to gain from the status quo. Do you know how much ex-governors are paid as pension for life after leaving office. Even South east governors denounce Biafra.

If you wait for the moneybags and burgeoise to lead a popular revolution against oppresion that they reap from, you will waste.

An Onitsha man is an Anioma man, Onitsha is in the SE. Political talk will always be political talk but everyone knows better.

Of course. How will a Governor who is enjoying power in Nigeria openly support Biafra? Not possible. It is laughable how Okowa called Anioma and SE 'ethnic nationalities' even though these words did not exist 30 years ago. Ifeanyi Okowa, the Midwest,SE,SS,Bendel, Delta state were all things that were created after independence. what was the name of your ancestors before Nigeria was created? The man is just talking nonsense. That is if Ifeanyi Okowa actually said any of these things as we all know what the Yoruba media are capable of.

Oblongata:
The agitation for the actualization of the Sovereign State of BIAFRA is quite inline with the right of nations to self determination which has now come to stand as cardinal principle in modern international law. as a point of reference, the law states that nations; based on respect for the principle of equal rights and fair equality of opportunity, have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no external compulsion or interference. so as far as the world is concerned, BIAFRA movement is an exercise of right to self-determination. however, one is compelled above the din, to critically analyse the possibility of the secessionist movement's success(if there is to be any). 3 reasons why the movement will be frustrated and might fail is as thus:
1) Politically motivated: the international community appreciates the rule of law with regards to self-determination. this will help to stamp out tyrants and ensure people are governed by their consent. however, the international community are not deaf and dumb, neither are they stupid. questions would be raised and most prominent being 'why now'? what is the trigger? has there truly been a marginalization? as a country Nigeria, how involved are the igbos in the country politically? what posts have they occupied? etc. and they will understand that there are some few that feels politically irrelevant now, and BIAFRA itself; before its most recent movement, at the barest mention of it provokes many of the igbo tribes (especially the youths) due to the BIAFRAN war which has ensured we remain united at the evil expense of many lives. BIAFRA itself is no longer a genuine movement, it reeks of ibo politicians who has turned the pains of memory of the BIAFRA war to their personal gain.
2)self-determination is confusing: the principle of self determination has not stated what constitute a nation, neither has it stated the type of group which may legitimately claim right to self-determination. its really difficult for a group of people to make use of self determination, (then again, what can we really classify as group of people, 3? 10?) because the law itself is not well stated out, my take? self determination itself was promulgated to discourage bad leadership and also one of the many weapons that has been reserved to be used by strong world leaders to hack down bad leadership and destroy threatening increase in strength (economically, population wise, etc) of other nations through the use of united nations. (winston and roosevelt, i doff my hat). what am i saying? self-determination to a large extent is determined or can be used only when these leaders want it to be used (trust me, they know how to incite such) and only when the country poises a threat. Nigeria is best left alone (so they will think) because there is little or no gain to them from BIAFRA's break away. it might have interested these leaders if it were a south south breakaway. in a nutshell, self-determination has been cleverly coined only as as a means to an end for these UN cabals, hence, its confused definition and unclear principle which has made them as the ultimate judge as no judge in the world can rule on it in clear terms. so BIAFRA is not determined by self-determination, it is determined by selfish interests.
3)Many of igbo descendant do not even believe in the so called BIAFRA movement and even see it as a probable downfall in their business. take scotland (for instance), there had been agitation for full independence time immemorial, most recent is the independence referendum (sept 18 2014) in which (not surprisingly), majority still voted NO towards the agitation. this can be largely attributed to stakes which is at all time high as well as common interest. one would have thought that the whole scottish nation supported independence due to the noise about it but when it was time to act towards it, majority carried the vote (which was a NO to independence). dont be surprised if more igbo people don't want to be part of the smaller zoo (BIAFRA), they just want to remain in the big zoo where there is still much space and less aggression.

generally, BIAFRA is not a movement. it is a tool by few pot bellied politifcians fast running out of relevance. at the mention of BIAFRA, what comes mostly to mind is the struggle, death of innocent souls, and naturally; Anger. anger of the occurrences of the Ojukwu led war. the movement, in itself, is not purged of ethnic sentiments neither does it have clarified terms on why they want to leave except for recent political fallout largely due to miscalculation. i doubt if many ibos will obey the BIAFRAN clarion call when we now have a segun Arinze, Emeka Balogun, etc. let truth be told, if there were ever going to be a BIAFRA, it wont be anytime soon.

Long live Nigeria

United we are stronger

Medulla @Oblongata

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So this whole write up of yours is to defend how Lord Lugard came from Britain to beat up, shoot, kill and rape your ancestors in other to make them Nigerians? You think you would be a Nigerian if Lugard had not come? Or maybe you would have gone to Britain with a placard saying "Lugard come and give me my country!".


Any group of people are entitled to go their way any time they want and for whatever reason especially when they were forced into the country against their will. Wether they fail in their new country is not your business. You were not with this people before, now you claim to be one with them just because Lugard told you so. The Nigerian question must be answered by a referendum. A referendum must be conducted so that the indigenous ethnic groups that make up the geographical expression called NIgeria can finally decide who they are. We cannot keep carrying this "British identity" called Nigeria that was forced on us all. This is not just about Biafra, this is about the right of a person or people to choose. A person who had no right to choose is a prisoner, doesn't matter if you call that person a Nigerian or not.

Personally, I would prefare a much smaller Biafra that is working than a big Nigeria which has turned out to be a 55 year old disaster.

Nigeri was just a "British experiment" to see if some indigenous West African ethnic groups could live together under one roof. 55 years later, one civil war, millions dead, massive corruption, nepotism, tribalism and the fact that most of the countries we started off with have left us behind, we have proved that the experiment was a big mistake. It is now time for us all to revert to how we were before Lugard started the disasterous experiment.

There's a YouTube clip of him from about 4 years ago where he stated that he is a year older than his brother and even his brother was 19 then

Drug abuse must be on the increase

Obiano was not a product of the political class, neither was Peter Obi. Obiano was a retired Billionaire banker who was just enjoying his his retirement in his home in America when Peter literally dragged him back home and made him Governor. With no Godfathers to bow down to and no political liabilities, Obiano set to work. The man had already made money as a former auditor for an Oil company (TEXACO I believe) and a former Director of Fidelity Bank so there was no need to steal the people's money.

IkpuMmadu:
Why are people weary and scared of associating with edo and Yoruba in south if Nigeria


Are they this nasty

Those "Yoruboids" are their own people and self confessed agents of the sokoto caliphate. It is in our long term interests to stay well away from them.

Kastonkastroll:
Most of you ipob touts are illiterates I swear. lolx so in your myopic mind, you think the Nigeria military can't deal with ipob terrorists, militancy, boko boys and shiites at the same time? Do you even know that the army is grouped into different divisions?
Currently, DIV 3 of the Nigeria army are the only army personnels battling boko boys in NE( about a little percentage of DIV 3). And the army have about 8 divisions. lolx

So if your so called country turns into a theatre of war, Boko Haram in NE, Niger Delta militants in the SS, IPOB in the SE..........

You will still convince your self you have a country?

cheruv:
I'd also endorse your proposal with a map....

I like that map. It is the closest I have seen to what an Igbo/Igboid region should be. However, I'm not sure if it captures the Igbos of the lower Benue, the Umu-Ezeokoha people. It still staggers me how over 1 million ethnic Igbos that should have been in Ebonyi state were maliciously carved into Benue. There must be a referendum!!!

A 6 regional structure is good but it is not enough. The office of executive president must also be abolished and in its place two offices will replace it. The office of the ceremonial president who will be commander in chief and a prime minister who will be head of a Government. Also, there must be a referendum to determin the make up of the regions. As an Anambra man, I want the entire Anioma in the Igbo region including the Igbos of the lower Benue and all Igbo elements in Rivers. I also want any minority of southern Nigeria (with the exception of Edo, but not Igbanke) who feel that they are better off in the Igbo region to say so in a referendum. However, I have to warn Nigerians about something. Should we get our region, we Igbos are most likely to pull out of Nigeria in less than 10 years. The Northerners know this, that's why they are against a regional system of Government.

engreo:
Wow! Congrats to u ipob, u finally proved to the world that u are terrorist not a freedom fighter.

What did you expect? When they were peaceful, your terrorist Government used them for target practice. Now that they are turning violent, you guys are surprised?

Enahi:
Geez Zombie who wants to be part of cannibalistic creatures? We don't eat humans in Niger Delta that's why you all need to go far. We need to disinfect the whole of Niger Delta and mop you leeches out before y'all turn us to vampires.

Sorry but there is no tribe in Nigeria called Niger Delta. So until you start mentioning some of the 300 ethnic tribes in Nigeria, I don't know the people you are talking about.

Enahi:
it's an insult when you culture less parasites feel you have a right to decide and claim what's not yours.

Whoever told you fools that Edo state wants to be part of your nonsense Biafran Country must be dreaming. Biafra starts and ends with the five Eastern states.

Edo is not part of Biafra, cry me a River.

thekingisback:
Oil has been the main source of income in this country. The discovery of oil has brought about wealth and poverty to this country. It's so shameful that the revenue generated from oil sales over the years that should have put this country amongst developed countries cannot be accounted. It ought not to be so.

Let's stop deceiving ourselves there's no unity in this country. The only time I've noticed a little unity is during football matches. Also, let it be known that there's no difference between the Hausas/Fulanis, Yorubas and Igbos. The three of them only care about themselves. Let no Niger Deltan be deceived by the sugar-coated tongue or by allowed to be cajoled by any group promising us heaven and earth.

This is a question I have for every Niger Deltan. What is the guarantee joining biafra won't amount to another mini Nigeria? What's the tendency they won't wipe out our identities by internal colonization? Why do you guys feel they badly want South South in their pipe dream? My brothers from the Niger Deltans open your eyes and read in between the lines. Our leaders whom ought to be representing us have failed us. They're part of our problems. Nothing good can come out from the likes of EK Clark, Tompolo, Ayiri, Osho Baba, Akpabio and co. The time have come for us to take our destinies into our own hands and stop depending on our leaders.

By Niger Delta I mean Edo, Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers, Cross River and Akwa Ibom.

Mods front page.

Edo state is not part of Biafra (except the Igbanke people). Are the Igbo people of Asaba people part of this SS? Are Anioma people in this SS? Are the Igbo Rivers in this SS? Who exactly is SS? Let nobody decieve themselves. There are only two choices for the minority tribes of Southern Nigeria.

Join the majority Igbos in leaving Nigeria or take your chances and stay with the Northerners and Yorubas in Nigeria


That is why it is important that this SS nonsense must stop. The tribes have to decide for themselves in a referendum what they want. Some people are using this SS to speak for other tribes and this is not good. The choice is out there, stay or leave. It is that simple.

Anyone can stick the Biafran Logo on anything and try to use it for something dubious.

T8ksy:
In that case, it was really dumb and callous of him to send other people's fathers, sons, uncles etc into the battlefield when he

knew he only had "one cup of garri" to fight against his enemies "trailer load of garri".

Don't talk like a Pratt. The indomitable spirit of the Biafrans who make up the majority of what is now known as the SE/SS geo-political zones and the lower Benue would never have permitted them to bow down to the oppression of the Nigerian state on the excuse of Nigerian military superiority or foreign support. We are not the people of SW. I'm proud of people like my father who fought on the Biafran side with little or nothing but sheer guts for what he believed in which is an independent homeland for his people. He still says to this day that if he could go back in time, he would do it all over again. You people should stop this "Ojukwu sent people to die" nonsense. The people Ojukwu sent to die are not complaining, it is someone who is enjoying Amala in western Nigeria that is now complaining? Jokers!

That's the kind of Man who brings real change. Not some clueless gworo chewing cattle rearer who is busy flying around the world and is about to plunge Nigeria into debt.

There is this general thinking of the northerners. They believe they own the oil because they fought for it.

opey25:
Biafra also had the support of France,Portugal and Israel.

Yes, but their support can be likend to a situation where Portugal and France gave Biafra one cup of Garri and Britain and Russia have Nigeria one trailer load of the same Garri. The support Nigeria recieved was far in excess of what Biafra got

tubouncen:
....And yet no igbo here

Smh for ipod propagandist

How much did u steal

There is an Igbo man there. Chibuike Amaechi. He might call himself an Ikwere man but not even I from Anambra can deny him, wether in good or bad

This is the second woman who's death has been associated with that notorious senator from Imo state called Hope Uzodimma

Johnnoah1st:
anytime i heard d name "ojukwu" i always remember abidjan, why?

When you fight but stare imminent death in the face if you continue, you have two choices. You can either stay and take what is coming to you, or you can escape and return when you are stronger. Ojukwu gave a good fight, you win some, you lose some. Ojukwu made the right decision to fly out when he lost. Had he stayed on just another 2 days, Uli airstrip would have been captured and there would have been no way out. He lived on to return and impacted positively on his people. Anyone calling him a coward for flying out should try taking on the combined military might of Britain,Russia and Nigeria for 3 years then come back let's talk about what you know about bravery

Yes they have the same parents like others have said with Chris being the younger of the two.

However.............. There is no 'brother' in the jungle of Nigerian politics

If the guy had been a Nigerian,he would have quietly driven the car into the garage or somewhere he wouldn't be disturbed and spent the next 1 month taking the entire car apart.

Likei:
What happened to freedom of speech?

That's fast becoming nothing under the Buhari administration