₦airaland Forum

CanadaOrBust:
Well, Imo people nontheless, and how can they be enjoying the dividends of democracy when they believe there was no democracy but a SC fraudulent selection!

BTW, The word “sadly” is aptly used above by your good self or is that Freudian slip

CanadaOrBust:
Well, the good people of Imo are also the ones who confered that distinguishing sobriquet on him out of all the governors. U know fully well it neither originated with me nor was it originated by NL. The question is, in view of obvious malfeasance by SC, wether IMO PEOPLE are justified in nicknaming him “SUPREME COURT GOV” or “419 SUPREME COURT GOV”

CanadaOrBust:
Well, the election referee is INEC. They declared him 4th and no single member of his part was elected locally. All tribunals and courts and everyone agreed with INEC, EXCEPT the Supreme Court - hence the sobriquet SUPREME COURT GOVERNOR

CanadaOrBust:
Just so u understand the origin and justification for the sobriquet:
SUPREME COURT GOVERNOR or
as some say, 419 SUPREME COURT GOVERNOR

CanadaOrBust:
Bros he finished FOURTH, have u forgotten?
See what newspapers wrote:

“Both the EPT and the Appeal Court dismissed Uzodinma’s petition for lacking in merit

By relying on the faulty tabulation made by Sen. Uzodinma, the Supreme Court arrived at a figure of 950,952 total votes cast at the election, which is more than the total votes cast at the election totalling 823,743.

This gave rise to 127,209 excess votes at the election as affirmed by the Supreme Court, which all through avoided mentioning figures regarding the votes cast for the disputants or the total registered voters and valid and invalid votes in the judgment.”

Daum:
Obaseki has many powerful northern Oligarchs in his backs. From dangote to Rabiu of Bus cement. See, Oshiomole na party chairman, how does he want to control military. For what we know, Obaseki is not in the bad books of Buhari so calm down. Who won share money pass....Obaseki has state resources to use, state money dy him hand to share give voters...where Oshiomole won see money share....I dy laff

Daum:
June I think....

People they forget wetin dem dy call power of incumbency. Even if Obaseki is not a politician, Philip Shuaibu the deputy is a rugged and dogged one. He has all the agberos he needs.

Na Philip boys they rig election for Edo north. Na Philip get thugs. Philip na grassroots for Edo north. You think Oyegun go fold hands abi. All the people Oshiomole insulted and disgraced in his time are the ones pushing Obaseki.

CanadaOrBust:
You mean the Supreme Court’s choice.
The original 419 Supreme Court gov himself

Okortor:
No doubt but Not in all case, my kid bro no Sabi person and he wrote their regular course some years back, passed and also did well in jamb, went for screening in kd, God took charge. Now he is a Captain. However is very very brilliant n dat part of d requirements if u don't av someone. He killed d exam so de had no choice cos it was obvious he did very very well.

bizme:
I have given up on the guy already. It is impossible to have a rational discussion with some fellow citizens. No amount of reasoning seems sufficient to eradicate the prejudice, envy and anger in their mind. I am increasingly believing these days that the attacks many e-Nigerians are willing to mete out on any category of labour union might be erupting from envy, that you have guys have jobs and you are still going on strike. Be it lecturers, doctors, etc, some Nigerians keep the same old song of sack-and-replace-them-all. Sack and replace who exactly?

Lecturing job is one of the most specialized fields I have ever seen. In some cases, only one or few departments can boast of specific expertise in the country. And whenever you lose such individuals to other countries, that is often the end of that field in Nigeria. In fact in lecturing, you can not readily replace one professor with another.

The level of ignorance and mis-education in Nigeria baffles me. It is like many of my fellow citizens don't even care a hoot to inform their own native ignorance and biases. Many keep thinking that lecturing is all about delivering lectures in classrooms and that on that basis alone you should measure the competence and replacability of our university academic staff. No. Lecturing constitutes less than half of the academic duties and responsibilities of a lecturer. This fact seems lost on most Nigerians. The larger part of the calling of a university academic staff is to engage in research to increase human knowledge...this is the primary duty. And it is in the fulfilling of this primary duty that a lecturer is meant to train the country's workforce. In most developed countries on Earth today, possession of a PhD is no longer the minimum requirement to be employed as a faculty member. You must have engaged in postdoctoral research for years, sometimes up to 10 years before you secure a lecturing job. It now beats my imagination that some Nigerians would even think such highly trained experts can be simply replaced by job-seeking individuals who are still learning how to compose a CV.

Thanks my brother for your kind comments. I read the last response of that my fellow Nigerian, and it occurred to me that explanations have all along been wasted on someone that might not be interested in examining facts.

bizme:
You are free to ask any random pharmacist you know around about this thing. Disbelief is easily remedied by getting the right information. And yes I have done different postings relating to the pharmacy profession already... But there's not point going into this again here.

You need to correct your idea of what constitutes insubordination. The Executive arm of the Federal Government is not the Boss. I know that the long period that we have spent under colonial masters and later military administrators has made it difficult for some of us to stop viewing those elected into offices as the owner of our lives...

And no, I have not bragged...not even once. But for someone without the working knowledge of what I stated, I understand that it would come across as bragging... It is very easy for you to verify, if you are in the mood. Call up a professor, or simply find out the duties and responsibilities of different academic cadres in the Universities, Polytechnics and so on. Reconcile this with the stipulations of the NUC for each position and those of the professional councils for professional courses like Pharmacy, Medicine, Nursing, Medical Laboratory Science, Dentistry, Law, Engineering, and son on. You can easily get the BMAS for all undergraduate courses from the NUC website for instance. After going through these requirements for lecturing these various courses, then you can independently come to the conclusion on whether or not lecturers can simply be replaced with a single wave of Buhari-hand...

That's even just for undergraduate courses. We will take it to postgraduate levels it becomes a lot more interesting.

bizme:
You have omitted the details of those degrees. When you speak of the university system it is highly complex system and a job applicant having a masters degree doesn't automatically fit in anywhere. Take my field for example, it is impossible for you to have a bachelor degree in Pharmacy and not already be employed. With almost no more than 14,000 pharmacists who are Nigerians, a good number of us have left the country. And without a bachelor of pharmacy degree you cannot run a pharmacy programme in any of the universities. The very fact that University jobs pay pharmacists ridiculous salaries is exactly why my colleagues would not in a million years accept to lecture in a university. For instance, even after you have added an MSc and a PhD degree to your qualifications as Faculty of Pharmacy lecturer, most of the graduates produced by you with no more than a bachelors degree will take first salaries that are infinitely higher than yours, with all your additional degrees. If you see a Pharmacist who is lecturing it is purely the love for the job and a good sense of sacrifice that compels him to turn back on the juicer packages outside and pick up lecturing job.
You have to understand the system well to know that lecturers, e.g., those working at the Faculty of Pharmacy are simply irreplaceable. And this applies for all the fields. You can not bring an MBA masters degree to teach pharmacy, medical, law, engineering students and so on. You cannot use a PhD in Education to train students of geology, chemistry and so on ...

Don't always believe the propaganda by the government. The same government that said through Chris Ngige that medical personnel could leave the country for all he cared, that there were many doctors looking for employment, is now the same government that has been quickly increasing the allowances of health personnel to prevent any kind of unrest at this time. That you have MBBS wielding doctors outside doesn't mean you can replace highly trained surgeons and consultants with the job-seekers. It is the same way with you saying lecturers are replaceable.

I for one like to see what it looks like replacing highly trained and experienced lecturers up to professorial cadres with job seekers with or without postgraduate degrees. Won't that be a very memorable sight?

Once this COVID19 holiday is over, Nigerians should get ready for the total shutdown of our universities. For the first time in a long while, Buhari has succeeded in uniting all three University unions. ASUU, NASU, and SSANU.

In the end, the politicians with the private higher institutions are the ones who will benefit from all this, and Nigerians the ones to lose. All the university workers' entitlements will eventually be paid no matter what. But at the end, founders of private universities will keep smiling to the bank. This is how politicians play us and some naive Nigerians actually think this is a fight against corruption.

Sirnuel:
So he should just sack the whole university staff and replace them??

Lol funny lot.

Sirnuel:
Lol, you think Nigeria is a 1 man business. People are asking for their salary and you want them sacked??

Blue3k:
Lol do you think everyone spineless liar that can't see the governments leverage? Maybe they actually believe in the imaginary shortage of lecturers you claimed. Anyway since you dont understand conditional statements there's no point going on. You honestly believe there's nobody in present or future can make the change so it's a wrap.

Blue3k:
The sack can happen if they have the resolve. Lol do you think everyone is a limp wrist like you?

Blue3k:
Lol all you did was lie shortages, illegallity and contracts being the reason. The fact is the can fire them and has the leverage if it choose. The political will isnt there because they're weak not because they're incapable. [/b]The government can sack snd easily replace all the lectures like I proved with the unemployment numbers.

[b]If leaders and mentally weak like yourself it wont. If they're have backbone and common sense they will. I gave a conditional statement on when they will fire them. Unless you believe all leaders are weak like yourself it can happen.

Blue3k:
I dont agree with you. Lol with weak leaders on like you it can't happen. Every leader tested like Ronald Reagan in the united states. He fired 10k of his striking workers who refused his ultimatum. Insubordination doesn't need to be tolerated. The can register while issues are wirked out with software.

If you have no else to say the conversation is done. Facts are the FG has all the leverage. The imaginary shortage you spoke if doesn't exist. There's also plenty of qualified professionals to replace them likes I correctly pointed out.

tete7000:
Don't mind people who don't know anything. I worked on a construction site somewhere in V/I in 2014 and had two colleagues who worked with me on site. One lived in Egbeda, the other in Iyana Ipaja. The one that lived in Egbeda had his family in Ibadan and used to go to Ibadan over the weekends. Now while we left site, the one heading to Ibadan would have got home in Ibadan while the Ipaja man would still be in traffic. So we used to joke that is it not even better to be coming in every morning from Ibadan to Lagos than living in Lagos itself?. Such is the irony of Lagos, and if you look at it critically if not that our leaders are bunch of morons, the ideal way to decongest Lagos is to create fast rail system that can bring people in from neighboring town (Ibadan and abeokuta plus sagamu) allowing people work in Lagos and live in those cities.

gypsey:
You drive 80-100km/hr for a 15 minute journey? and every one else probarbly wants to or does the same, that's why you people are all held up.

Have you people never heard of cycling? .

gypsey:
You drive 80-100km/hr for a 15 minute journey? and every one else probarbly wants to or does the same, that's why you people are all held up.

Have you people never heard of cycling? .

uvie66:
if the distance between your house and office is only 15 minutes, so why do you need the car for this Short journey.

tete7000:
How? Have you lived in Lagos and got caught in its holdup before? I said it from the time they announced it that curfew cannot work in Lagos with its traffic issue. People are still caught in traffic on an ideal day till 10-11 in the night. How will they be able to get home by 8pm when they are still in traffic till 10pm. Only a Daura man can think of such curfew for Lagos after relaxing lockdown. In Lagos you either lock down or let people be. No middle ground.

Babatunde40:
Most lagosians are naturally disobedient. They will know curfew starts by 8 but will still be wherever they are by 7.45. They will say nothing dey happen. If police stops them, you will hear "do you know who I am?"

They are lucky it is not PH. All of them for hear am

Blue3k:
Lol do you think everyone is like you citing numbers they can't back up? You should take your own advice research and keep up to date. I'll link you to NBS stats since you didnt bother to look it yourself. What in the employee contract says they're exempt from IPPIS? There's no nothing in the labor law that gives these lecturers that right. You're just making up nonsense.

Yes the leaders are weak like yourself we established this fact. They don't take hard stance for political reasons not legal. In rising unemployment environment it's not political expedient to fire them. Lol it's the same foolishness that makes them continue other bad policies until their hand is forced.

Lol lectures shortage ni lecture shortartage ko. Why cant they find a job outside of the university if they're in such high demand. They have zero levage if the government got tough of them. There easily replaceable but you cant see this because they're sacred cows in your mind.

FYI Total unemployment by degree:
Masters degrees - 91,249
Doctorate Degree - 9,832

Investnow2017:
Thank you dear. You pulled this out of my mouth. To think that the same people who were heaping curses on the govt a few months ago for the delay in closing borders etc are the same people now screaming that same pandemic is a scam irks me to my marrow. Unless you are on a ventilator many folks here will not believe you have Covid-19. The ignorance about this contagion is as deep as that. That on one side.

Is the govt too helping matters? Just think of Yobe registering 32 out of miserly tests of 50. Any sane system would rather hasten the speed of testing in such hotspots, but no. In a pandemic that many nations have tested millions of their citizens and we are still less than 40k after 3 months, a 3hour feat of some countries is as appalling as it is reckless. To me let us forget about this Covid-19 fight here as two things have become very clear:

1) Most Nigerians don't believe it exists in Nigeria.
2) Govt has not demonstrated that it is a contagion they can successfully eradicate.

I have much to say, but I choose to stop here.
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Blue3k:
Nah I dont need to. I can always suggest good alternative maybe a better leader will do it.

1. After the ultimatum most wont quit knowing they get a job elsewhere. There's enough people with masters degrees. Lol nigeria has nearly 10k unemployed PhD holders..

2. Enough to replace anyone dumb enough to lose job over petty insubordination. You're also assuming there's nobody state or private sector wont want to replace them.

3. Lol weirdos like you claim it's slavery to obey simply directives. Why not seek your freedom in the private sector.

Blue3k:
Ok You made wild claim you can't back up. There's no shortage unless you can prove it. You cant and wont so move on. They aren't tough like Reagan that's why I used him as the example. Nope it means they dont have the resolve necessary. Insubordination is enough to fire them. There's plenty of qualified talent in academia to replace them. Lastly they dont have leverage considering the current labor market.

Blue3k:
Ok I you dont have proof. All you can do is make wild claims you cant back up. It's that simple your excuses dont matter. Buhari is weak leader so he probably wont get tough.

Blue3k:
You're judt making statements you cant back up. There's no shortage of university lecturers in Nigeria. Lol university lectures are already complying only the stubborn ones would be fired. If you dont like the system you dont have ro work for the government take your talents to the private sector. You can register while bugs are worked out.