₦airaland Forum

Blue3k:
Who told you there's a shortage of university lecturers? I haven't seen any report claiming this. If there's a shortage schools would hirer real lecturers instead of paying ghost. Lol you're making erroneous statements because you can't defend your rights arguement. Lol you'd be weak like Buhari always complaining but you dont see audits or prosecutions.

The government job isnt to hire everyone. They need to improve their economic policies so private sector hires these unemployed people. Nigeria already spends too much on recurrent expenditures.

Please google is always available for this kind of things. Just google the subject. More over, try to read about ASUU issues with the IPPIS system before swallowing anything whole from the government. What of numerous complaints those already on the system are bringing out.
Moreso, how do you sack an entire work force as you claim and still sustain the sector? It implies you are even worst than the Buhari you are castigating

Blue3k:
Lol stop rambling nonsense. There's enough talent in the workforce with masters degress to replace these workers. If need be the workers in public sector can be poached along with talent from other African countries. If they dont wish to oney lawful directive they can try their hsnd with state universities and private sector.

The unemployment rate is high over 20 percent. They dont hsve much leverage in this situation. You're doctor example is a lame apples and oranged comparison.

with all this grammar you are blowing, there are no enough lecturers in the university system. Why is the government not employing the so many talents roaming the street? Let them start from there first. Some comments here give an insight of how incapable some people will be, given Buhari's position

Agboriotejoye:
Of course it's from the schools. Same school mgt that have ghost workers and illegal staff. You see why I said OAGF has some questions to answer too.

Sure

ahiboilandgas:
are u an empoyee of Assu or federal govt

A concerned citizen putting out my opinion on what I consider abnormalities in our government policies

Agboriotejoye:
Oh!! So why did they now pay them when they refused submitting their BVN. The agf's office has questions to answer too. What is obvious is they got the payroll from the schools.

From school, not from ASUU. And that is why you see those errors. ASUU did not involved themselves in the payment process, it was between the school admin and accountant office

Agboriotejoye:
They were paid using their BVN since most of them had not enrolled for IPPIS. They used the nominal roll provided by the schools.

But ASUU has never been paid using bvn. Infact when they were asked to fill a form regarding bvn, they outrightly refused. That was after the president ordered the accountant to pay them their salaries. The accounts office brought the bvn issue and ASUU as a body refused. The reason you see this confusion regardless of IPPIS or bvn payment is that a different payment platform was used as against what was used before. And ASUU clearly did not have a hand in the process. It is strictly between the bursary of universities and the accountant office. ASUU only pointed out the embarrassing payment to dead Members

vedaxcool:
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When you in coma when Government instructed universities to submit their staff names so that they can be paid to avoid suffering during the lockdown? And they should also submit their BVN?

Keep blaming Government,I am sure it releases endomorphines to your blood stream.

Don't deviate and intelligently debate. If the universities were asked to submit names, was ASUU responsible for that? Is it not the work of the bursary? Why is he blaming ASUU? ASUU only pointed out how it's dead and retired members were paid, and the accountant did no refute this. More over, ASUU as a body refused the bvn angle as well, and their members did not submit. Why then did they go ahead to arbitrarily pay money? Why not just let the status quo remain? ASUU has no hand in this whatsoever

Agboriotejoye:
The salaries were not paid on the platform.

Which platform were they paid on? From the embarrassing damage control by the accountant, he obviously centered on IPPIS payment, and didn't state how otherwise, the payment was made.

vedaxcool:
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even a compound Fool will know I meant university but because wailing for corruption is considered wisdom they have left the real issue to pursue dust.

They now expect a computer to detect death, a programme which is simply to manage payments.

please don't be offended but it looks like you don't even have a full grasp of this IPPIS stuff. We were meant to understand that, before you are paid on the platform, you have to enroll. ASUU refused enrollment hence a stand off ensued. Of course, enrollment is in the form of bio data capture (facial, finger prints etc). So how come a dead person was paid on the platform? Is the platform in such a way that anyone can be paid on without enrollment? Then it will be a headquarter of ghost workers knowing how our system works. Point is, the accountant general's office committed a huge blunder and they should take responsibility. Why even attempting to pay ASUU on the platform without proper enrollment? Of course, this is the result of that irresponsible decision.
The government should be careful, otherwise the public institutions will be buried finally. Knowing who ASUU are, they will never bow to this tricks by the government. It is going to be a long hard fight. I just pity the students in all of this.
Personally, I put the whole blame on the government, education funding is nothing to talk about, lecturers are poorly paid, the government cannot get the most basic of things right.
It is a pathetic situation

gayman99:
Most people just come online with their free 50mb data to rant nonsense. The observation you made is very excellent. How many fg staff have been able to access the National housing loan? Yet billions are stolen from the same NHF with out any issue. That is where Nigerians should channel their energies to.

Even those who want an answer over this are not finding any

Osidazz19:
So going by your argument, if the Bursars are not aware of a dead teachers in their own school, how do you expect the govt in Abuja to know that? It is is the job of the school including the Bursars to make that the people they are paying are still gainfully employed by the school.

So how does this your position concern ASUU. Why is the accountant picking on ASUU when clearly, this embarrassing error is not from them. IPPIS involves enrollment, which means bio data capture, so ask the accountant how he captured and paid dead people on the platform. The government keeps making embarrassing errors.

vedaxcool:
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Is that all?

Be sincere and answer him intelligently. How on earth is it the responsibility of ASUU to submit a list for payment? What is the work of the administrative staff he pointed out to you? Even if a list is submitted by whoever, how come the office of the accountant and the platform can't detect the error or fraud? It means the IPPIS itself is platform that can be used for fraud easily

vedaxcool:
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You can see how this one will likely volunteer to bail Shekau? ASUU fraudulently submitted dead people to inflate their personnel cost yet your concern is to divert attention to an issue that has no equivalence to it?

Some people will continue to disgrace themselves because they think fraud is the shortest route to success.

You passionately take side with the government on this. Pls sincerely clarify me on the following
1. Is it ASUU or the school management that submitted the lectures names to government?
2. How come the government suddenly paid ASUU through IPPIS when we all know the members have not enrolled in the platform?
3. Does it mean the accountants office does not have a control of who is on its payroll?
Kindly answer sincerely.

NB. What I can deduce from the defence above is that, the IPPIS system is highly susceptible to fraud in form of ghost workers if any name can be paid on it. How did the dead lecturers enrolled in the system?
ASUU itself has no hand in the embarrassing payment. How can ASUU submit their members names to the accountant office to be paid on a system that they oppose? ASUU we all know are on strike, so which ASUU submitted the names. The universities management who are not part of ASUU submitted an erroneous list to the account office who totally failed to detect the error. So what is the fault of ASUU in all these. ASUU just raised an alarm that dead and retired members were paid, and they didn't lie. It happened. Why can't the incompetent office of accountant take responsibility rather than shamefully dragging ASUU in their madness?

mentored:
Its a global village.

They need it to loot.

Nobody is buying the oil.

They need alternative looting avenue.

My wife had serious fever and lost her sense of smell.

I bet you that she would have been counted as corona virus number 5620 + 1.

But this is almost a month, we dey here.

IF YOU THINK NO ONE IS RIDING ON THIS VIRUS TO LOOT, PLEASE THINK AGAIN!!!

It doesn't add up. Looting has been going on ever since, infact in this corona era, there is even less money going round. E.g if you are the lagos state governor with a looting mind, look at this scenario. Lagos generate an IGR of 34billion in a month, how much do you think they will generate when locked down? Now 15billion was given to them by FG for over two months lockdown, if the state was open, they could have generated a minimum of 50billion in the same period. Which option will you as a state governor choose? To have 50billion where you have more opportunities to loot or to have 15billion?.
Some times we talk because we are in a position to criticize, painting those on the other side as completely unintelligent or dunces. They are not, if anything they are well educated, exposed etc and may be laughing at some of these things we put out.
Why is Lagos thinking of total relaxation of lockdown? Do you think Gov. Bello or Ayade do not want to loot? The government at all levels are loosing unprecedented revenues, which serve a source of their loot due to lock down.
So when you say the lock down is to make money, I don't understand.

imam07:
tell me one person u know who get the virus. Why is the govt hiding many things from us. I do watch foreign news channels and see how they cover wht is happening in their hospitals. We see sick people on the bed with ventilators. But here nothing. They just dey give us figures every day. Anyone that die now nah coronavirus kill am.

Atiku pikin, Dokpesi, Makinde, El Rufi, Late Kyari, etc

DenreleDave:
Abegi make una shut up jare...
This man possibly knows more than you people.

Our govt is looting the economy dry with this covid palava.

Imagine someone like me dt has malaria, am sure if ncdc tested me, they will say I av Corona but I know it's malaria..


Corona is a business in this country.............

please do they need corona to loot? Have they not been looting the economy since? How much are they making now compared to when there was no corona? Does it not occur to you that they were making far more money during free movement than in this lockdown, hence there was more money to loot then than now? At least they are not dumb now, the more money you get, the easier to loot. The pastor is off point

kyjuan99:
No he doesn't
We need proof
If us can do live stream when taking down enemies Nigeria who models herself on us style of governance can

Even if they show me pictures, I will say they are photoshopped, cloned, etc. Let them not show and leave everyone to believe what they want to believe

Kazim88:
Lagos is yet to spend the billion allocated for COVID-19 response. The more the extension, the more the spending.
And everything done , the price is inflated.

Lastly, most state govt does not produce anything.

Civil service in Nigeria always run losses even NNPC.

Most state like Anambra that did not receive Bloc sum have since open up, no COVID-19 budget to spend.
German, Iran and co that is seriously been hit left and right with deaths have open up... Lagos with less than 3 daily is still planning to lock down.

Please if you read news about our economy regarding IGR, you will know that your point is well of mark especially on Lagos. In the first half of 2019 Lagos generated 205.1billion IGR, i.e 34billion per month without lockdown.
In the period of lockdown, businesses were closed down, including markets, how much do you think they can generate? Now compare a meager 15billion given to Lagos to cover over two months during lockdown as against over 68 billion the state would have made on average over the same period.
So, whichever way you look at it, every state governor will prefer the lockdown to be lifted because more money will come in and it will even be easier to embezzle with more money than less money coming in.
I am sure even if you are the state governor, you will prefer to open your economy. Nigeria as a whole and each state government is loosing so much under this lockdown as compare to any kind of donations they are receiving

Luckydubby7:
. just wait until some state governors start quoting how much dey have spent to fight covid19. then you can come back to me.

They can do that even more in the name of contracts award etc during normal activities. So I don't still understand. They are going to loose more money from FG allocation and IGR, so what's the point in deliberately locking down?

dederocs:
Dont mind the dummies, how much is Corona money compared to lagos IGR.

Honestly I am taken aback with how some people reason and put out things here. It doesn't add up at all. The FG and state governments are loosing billions due to lock down and people keep saying they are locking down to make money. The more they make money the easier it is for them to embezzle. How much do they even realize from Covid-19 during lockdown compared to when everything was normal?

Luckydubby7:
. U are generalizing it. He didn't Lagos state but individuals like d governor, commissioner for health, some health workers, ncdc staff in Lagos etc.

But how? I thought the more money coming to the coffers,the more the governor or others can embezzle. Without lock down, there will be more money coming, so I don't still get it

Kazim88:
In another word, Only states with spikes like Lagos would be shutdown.

Lagos State Govt and NCDC would be happy with this news... More money to their account.

Please how are they making more money during the lock down? Can you throw more light? For a state like Lagos, the amount of money they make in a day as IGR when the state is at full function is far more than what they can get during lockdown. So I don't understand your point of more money

nairamaniac:
These ones dont hv problems.

They shd come to nigeria and see how each state Governor is fighting hard to top the table as if its Premier League

Not true, where do you factor Kogi and Cross River, even Rivers in your all states assertion? On the contrary, I don't think any state is fighting to top Covid-19 cases. To what end exactly? Shutdown their economies? Reduce revenues? Job lost? etc. The theory is just a figment of imagination of a few

White007:
I tell you bro. The ignorance and stupidity of some Nigerian youths cannot be quantify. How they celebrate criminals that have kept them in perpetual poverty and misery remains a mystery. Is it that they don’t know their history or have they been bewitched?

people that always insult Buhari for not having mansions and only 150 cows? The other day, they were insulting one efcc man like that for not taking 100 million bribe

Vibra:
Online poll to decide if they should continue lockdown..

What is the meaning of all these nonsense?
What about millions of people who don't have access to internet?
I'm tired of saying, I'm tired of Nigeria

And why will Lala click on undecided just check poll results?
O ga o

You can imagine the motive behind Lala's voting. That is how someone will be in Maiduguri and vote for continuation or not

internationalman:
Non can be compared to Man Utd case

Your opinion though, but there is no official statistics anywhere to back your claim.

internationalman:
There was never a champions league semi final match between barca and Liverpool when Bellamy was a Liverpool player..

Clattenburg was a Man Utd referee. I remember him giving two Chelsea players red card and awarding a pk to Man Utd after Chelsea was leading by 2 goals..

That does not make him no where a manutd rafree. Going by your judgement, teams will be accused of having their referee week in week out. Do you know how many decisions were awarded to the same Chelsea unjustly the next week or the season?

Amumaigwe:
Check well Mr Commissioner. Niger delta are not Igbos, how can they be IPOB? Okpanam for that matter

Hanhan, Oga you self reason what you write now. IPOB is international, isn't it? Then, why will you doubt they exist in a border state with Anambra. They may be their members or not, but your comment sounds somehow

I am sure the driver's superiors pushed him out on this errand while lazily gossiping in their offices as is typical of most public workers. They should be the ones receiving the big hammer

3Ceagle:
Government in Nigeria is not proactive, be at state or federal level. In advance worlds, they convert their weakness to strength, while we simple resign to faith by not doing anything. Venice and Amsterdam developed a city on water which attract tourist across the world. We just have governments that lack capacity to create real infrastructural development. Yet you see government praise singer all over the places. Until we understand that politicians are our employees and one cardinal responsibility beyond obeying the laws, is to demand for accountability and to show our displeasure in a very civil way.

I agree with you completely. For as far as I can remember, this issue like many bedeviling our country have not changed. The politicians have successfully divided the populace along ethno religious lines evident here on nairaland. Our situation is now almost irredeemable

I don't know why this land in the east is so prone to erosion. If you physically look at it, it looks very strong but small rain and everything will change. Erosion control should be a top policy priority of the east governors with strong support from FG. People continue suffering this year in year out