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Sirnuel:He thinks is a mushroom company |
Sirnuel:Don't mind them, they think is a Chinese company |
Look at many of them running mouth up there. If the government import the robots, they will say is an avenue to embezzle, there is no corona in Nigeria, or such importation will make people jobless, why don't they use the money for palliative etc
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Blue3k:Thanks, once more my position is explicitly collaborated by you, as such we conclude that no sack is taking place. It CANNOT happen in summary. Nice interacting with you. |
Blue3k:Maybe they are, that is why they are not sacking. NO RESOLVE is an added reason your SACK CANNOT HAPPEN. You can bring more reasons to strengthen my stand. |
Blue3k:Here we go again, WHY THE SACK CANNOT HAPPEN |
Blue3k:Do not forget the subject matter. It is sacking all the lecturers. You remind me of my secondary school debate days. I said they can't sack, you say they should, but went ahead to give series of reasons why they can't. You are only debating to strengthen my points. Any reason you give as to why the government will not sack them is the exact reason they can't (my initial position). So be it weakness, political etc is just strengthening my point. Exactly how we used to box an opponent into strengthening our position invariably those days. In your mind, simply because you have a PhD, you will just walk into a university and start teaching, collect anything thrown at you(what a low self-esteem). I don't want to even open a route on this as you are so ignorant of human resources vs output. I INSIST THAT THE FG CANNOT SACK ANYONE AND NO ULTIMATUM WILL BE GIVEN TO ANYONE BECAUSE THE FG WEARS THE SHOE AND NO WHERE IT PINCHES. Conclusion: After a long debate, you see reasons why the suggestion is impossible here. Nigeria is not USA, USA is not China, China is not Angola. There is no one fit all approach in this. I expect you to come back with more reasons why your suggestion CANNOT ever happen, to strengthen my point more. Waiting |
tete7000:Yes, the situation is that pathetic. The metro line is completely on hold, I don't know why. The tiredness occasioned by traffic sometimes outweighs the one due to work |
gypsey:you still don't get it. There are times when the road is free. e.g by 4am-5am you can afford to drive at that speed because cars are not many on road. You can't do that at 6, 7, 8am and 4pm which are traffic peak hours. And please note that no one tries to run with a car when you have traffic. You can only run when the road is free. That is how you come about determining the normal travel time and during traffic hours as I told you. On cycling, you have traffic laws in Lagos against motor cycles, you wouldn't want to use a bicycle for a 15minutes drive distance due to the energy you can use, that is after working tired at work plus high risk of accident. You will not understand but believe me, it is not as simple as you think. |
gypsey:you still don't get it. There are times when the road is free. e.g by 4am-5am you can afford to drive at that speed because cars are not many on road. You can't do that at 6, 7, 8am and 4pm which are traffic peak hours. And please note that no one tries to run with a car when you have traffic. You can only run when the road is free. That is how you come about determining the normal travel time and during traffic hours as I told you. On cycling, you have traffic laws in Lagos against motor cycles, you wouldn't want to use a bicycle for a 15minutes drive distance due to the energy you can use, that is after working tired at work plus high risk of accidentYou will not understand but believe me, it is not as simple as you think. |
uvie66:I say drive, mind you. It doesn't mean leg. If i am trekking, it can take me over 1 hour, after hard day's work, which is not possible. But on a free road, I can drive 80-100km/hr and reach my office. So there is a difference between trek/time and drive/time distance |
tete7000:Well said, many people don't understand the intricacies of lagos. A 20mins drive can take you 4hours as if you are going to Benin |
Babatunde40:Lagos situation is a bit unique and more complex. From my house to where I work is 15mins drive. But sometimes I use over 3 hrs to home due to devilish traffic. My office at mainland close by 4pm now, but my friends in close proximity to me do reach their homes by 7:45 or 8pm on bad traffic days. Someone say 8pm curfew cannot work in Lagos and I agree with him. |
Blue3k:You have all the reasons why they cannot sack everyone and you are still suggesting it. Can you agree with me now that it cannot happen? Due to what you said and several other factors. If the leaders are not weak but strong as we wanted, me and you will not even be talking of ultimatums and sack here. Their strong policies would have benefited all satisfactorily, and hence no agitations here and there. Summary is, the situation being what it is now, the sack option is not viable and will never happen as you suggested. Once the situation changes and things are normalized, you will not see this bickering between ASUU and FG. For now, ASUU will still have their way. The FG can decide to force pay them on IPPIS, making errors, paying dead people. ASUU will on the other hand collect the payment, not resume work until their grievances are settled. |
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Blue3k:keep disgracing yourself. Audio 10k, distributed in what disciplines? And do they want to teach? The decision makers in government are not dumb, if anything, they are well exposed, educated and intelligent. They know things don't work the way you think. There are legal contractual agreements between an employer and employee. You don't just order someone around because you employ him. Replace from private sector or government establishments indeed. Then, robots will replace those you have taken. Quite funny. In any case, you can free your mind now. Because your day dreaming of ultimatums, sack etc is just what it is, day dreaming. Wake up from it because it is not going to happen. We may be cursed with bad leaders but at least they are not block heads to try to crumble all sectors if the economy using your alternative model. Do a little research about your "saner climes" and see what is obtainable there in their education and compare to ours, before you will come and start your sack marathon. Sack ko bag ni |
Blue3k:okay, since the sacking of the lecturers is not going to happen as you agree, you should also move on. 1. How many professors or doctors of medicine, agronomy, microbiology, food science, engineering etc do you know are unemployed and can replace lecturers you sack? 2. How many south Africans, Ghanians, etc lecturers do you think can leave better work environment and pay to come to the very poor conditions obtained in our universities? 3. In your warp knowledge you think a university is a secondary school that anyone can go and start lecturing. This really shows how a smart leader you will be. With this your mentality, you will make history as the world's worst leader. No wonder, the Chinese and Indians have a field day in this country, with this kind of employer slave mentality |
Blue3k:Well, I showed you where to look for proof. I wonder why the tough leaders did not sack them as you clamour. May be they are all dumb or smarter than what you think. But as all of them did not take the sack option, it means they know what you don't know and see what you don't see. It is as simple as that. |
Blue3k:you are quite funny. Just wait for schools to reopen and see who will teach the students. Not like it is a good thing, but the government's policies on education are generally too poor. By the way, try keeping yourself up to date with information. I don't like giving information here as you would want simply because you can look it up yourself. It discourages mental laziness. Again, for your information, ASUU grouse with the government is not even on IPPIS, this is just a side distraction. There are key agreements they signed which government has not fulfilled. Government is just grand standing on all these things. No ASUU members will be sacked, they will not enroll on IPPIS, and no school will resume until all the issues are sorted. If you think government can wake up and sack any of them, think again. ASUU is not like any other union. Ask OBJ and the rest, they did more than this but it didn't result to anything. |
Blue3k:Please google is always available for this kind of things. Just google the subject. More over, try to read about ASUU issues with the IPPIS system before swallowing anything whole from the government. What of numerous complaints those already on the system are bringing out. Moreso, how do you sack an entire work force as you claim and still sustain the sector? It implies you are even worst than the Buhari you are castigating |
Blue3k:with all this grammar you are blowing, there are no enough lecturers in the university system. Why is the government not employing the so many talents roaming the street? Let them start from there first. Some comments here give an insight of how incapable some people will be, given Buhari's position |
Agboriotejoye:Sure |
ahiboilandgas:A concerned citizen putting out my opinion on what I consider abnormalities in our government policies |
Agboriotejoye:From school, not from ASUU. And that is why you see those errors. ASUU did not involved themselves in the payment process, it was between the school admin and accountant office |
Agboriotejoye:But ASUU has never been paid using bvn. Infact when they were asked to fill a form regarding bvn, they outrightly refused. That was after the president ordered the accountant to pay them their salaries. The accounts office brought the bvn issue and ASUU as a body refused. The reason you see this confusion regardless of IPPIS or bvn payment is that a different payment platform was used as against what was used before. And ASUU clearly did not have a hand in the process. It is strictly between the bursary of universities and the accountant office. ASUU only pointed out the embarrassing payment to dead Members |
vedaxcool:Don't deviate and intelligently debate. If the universities were asked to submit names, was ASUU responsible for that? Is it not the work of the bursary? Why is he blaming ASUU? ASUU only pointed out how it's dead and retired members were paid, and the accountant did no refute this. More over, ASUU as a body refused the bvn angle as well, and their members did not submit. Why then did they go ahead to arbitrarily pay money? Why not just let the status quo remain? ASUU has no hand in this whatsoever |
Agboriotejoye:Which platform were they paid on? From the embarrassing damage control by the accountant, he obviously centered on IPPIS payment, and didn't state how otherwise, the payment was made. |
vedaxcool:please don't be offended but it looks like you don't even have a full grasp of this IPPIS stuff. We were meant to understand that, before you are paid on the platform, you have to enroll. ASUU refused enrollment hence a stand off ensued. Of course, enrollment is in the form of bio data capture (facial, finger prints etc). So how come a dead person was paid on the platform? Is the platform in such a way that anyone can be paid on without enrollment? Then it will be a headquarter of ghost workers knowing how our system works. Point is, the accountant general's office committed a huge blunder and they should take responsibility. Why even attempting to pay ASUU on the platform without proper enrollment? Of course, this is the result of that irresponsible decision. The government should be careful, otherwise the public institutions will be buried finally. Knowing who ASUU are, they will never bow to this tricks by the government. It is going to be a long hard fight. I just pity the students in all of this. Personally, I put the whole blame on the government, education funding is nothing to talk about, lecturers are poorly paid, the government cannot get the most basic of things right. It is a pathetic situation |
gayman99:Even those who want an answer over this are not finding any |
Osidazz19:So how does this your position concern ASUU. Why is the accountant picking on ASUU when clearly, this embarrassing error is not from them. IPPIS involves enrollment, which means bio data capture, so ask the accountant how he captured and paid dead people on the platform. The government keeps making embarrassing errors. |
vedaxcool:Be sincere and answer him intelligently. How on earth is it the responsibility of ASUU to submit a list for payment? What is the work of the administrative staff he pointed out to you? Even if a list is submitted by whoever, how come the office of the accountant and the platform can't detect the error or fraud? It means the IPPIS itself is platform that can be used for fraud easily |
vedaxcool:You passionately take side with the government on this. Pls sincerely clarify me on the following 1. Is it ASUU or the school management that submitted the lectures names to government? 2. How come the government suddenly paid ASUU through IPPIS when we all know the members have not enrolled in the platform? 3. Does it mean the accountants office does not have a control of who is on its payroll? Kindly answer sincerely. NB. What I can deduce from the defence above is that, the IPPIS system is highly susceptible to fraud in form of ghost workers if any name can be paid on it. How did the dead lecturers enrolled in the system? ASUU itself has no hand in the embarrassing payment. How can ASUU submit their members names to the accountant office to be paid on a system that they oppose? ASUU we all know are on strike, so which ASUU submitted the names. The universities management who are not part of ASUU submitted an erroneous list to the account office who totally failed to detect the error. So what is the fault of ASUU in all these. ASUU just raised an alarm that dead and retired members were paid, and they didn't lie. It happened. Why can't the incompetent office of accountant take responsibility rather than shamefully dragging ASUU in their madness? |
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that's why you people are all held up.