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vedaxcool:
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You can see how this one will likely volunteer to bail Shekau? ASUU fraudulently submitted dead people to inflate their personnel cost yet your concern is to divert attention to an issue that has no equivalence to it?

Some people will continue to disgrace themselves because they think fraud is the shortest route to success.

You passionately take side with the government on this. Pls sincerely clarify me on the following
1. Is it ASUU or the school management that submitted the lectures names to government?
2. How come the government suddenly paid ASUU through IPPIS when we all know the members have not enrolled in the platform?
3. Does it mean the accountants office does not have a control of who is on its payroll?
Kindly answer sincerely.

NB. What I can deduce from the defence above is that, the IPPIS system is highly susceptible to fraud in form of ghost workers if any name can be paid on it. How did the dead lecturers enrolled in the system?
ASUU itself has no hand in the embarrassing payment. How can ASUU submit their members names to the accountant office to be paid on a system that they oppose? ASUU we all know are on strike, so which ASUU submitted the names. The universities management who are not part of ASUU submitted an erroneous list to the account office who totally failed to detect the error. So what is the fault of ASUU in all these. ASUU just raised an alarm that dead and retired members were paid, and they didn't lie. It happened. Why can't the incompetent office of accountant take responsibility rather than shamefully dragging ASUU in their madness?

mentored:
Its a global village.

They need it to loot.

Nobody is buying the oil.

They need alternative looting avenue.

My wife had serious fever and lost her sense of smell.

I bet you that she would have been counted as corona virus number 5620 + 1.

But this is almost a month, we dey here.

IF YOU THINK NO ONE IS RIDING ON THIS VIRUS TO LOOT, PLEASE THINK AGAIN!!!

It doesn't add up. Looting has been going on ever since, infact in this corona era, there is even less money going round. E.g if you are the lagos state governor with a looting mind, look at this scenario. Lagos generate an IGR of 34billion in a month, how much do you think they will generate when locked down? Now 15billion was given to them by FG for over two months lockdown, if the state was open, they could have generated a minimum of 50billion in the same period. Which option will you as a state governor choose? To have 50billion where you have more opportunities to loot or to have 15billion?.
Some times we talk because we are in a position to criticize, painting those on the other side as completely unintelligent or dunces. They are not, if anything they are well educated, exposed etc and may be laughing at some of these things we put out.
Why is Lagos thinking of total relaxation of lockdown? Do you think Gov. Bello or Ayade do not want to loot? The government at all levels are loosing unprecedented revenues, which serve a source of their loot due to lock down.
So when you say the lock down is to make money, I don't understand.

imam07:
tell me one person u know who get the virus. Why is the govt hiding many things from us. I do watch foreign news channels and see how they cover wht is happening in their hospitals. We see sick people on the bed with ventilators. But here nothing. They just dey give us figures every day. Anyone that die now nah coronavirus kill am.

Atiku pikin, Dokpesi, Makinde, El Rufi, Late Kyari, etc

DenreleDave:
Abegi make una shut up jare...
This man possibly knows more than you people.

Our govt is looting the economy dry with this covid palava.

Imagine someone like me dt has malaria, am sure if ncdc tested me, they will say I av Corona but I know it's malaria..


Corona is a business in this country.............

please do they need corona to loot? Have they not been looting the economy since? How much are they making now compared to when there was no corona? Does it not occur to you that they were making far more money during free movement than in this lockdown, hence there was more money to loot then than now? At least they are not dumb now, the more money you get, the easier to loot. The pastor is off point

kyjuan99:
No he doesn't
We need proof
If us can do live stream when taking down enemies Nigeria who models herself on us style of governance can

Even if they show me pictures, I will say they are photoshopped, cloned, etc. Let them not show and leave everyone to believe what they want to believe

Kazim88:
Lagos is yet to spend the billion allocated for COVID-19 response. The more the extension, the more the spending.
And everything done , the price is inflated.

Lastly, most state govt does not produce anything.

Civil service in Nigeria always run losses even NNPC.

Most state like Anambra that did not receive Bloc sum have since open up, no COVID-19 budget to spend.
German, Iran and co that is seriously been hit left and right with deaths have open up... Lagos with less than 3 daily is still planning to lock down.

Please if you read news about our economy regarding IGR, you will know that your point is well of mark especially on Lagos. In the first half of 2019 Lagos generated 205.1billion IGR, i.e 34billion per month without lockdown.
In the period of lockdown, businesses were closed down, including markets, how much do you think they can generate? Now compare a meager 15billion given to Lagos to cover over two months during lockdown as against over 68 billion the state would have made on average over the same period.
So, whichever way you look at it, every state governor will prefer the lockdown to be lifted because more money will come in and it will even be easier to embezzle with more money than less money coming in.
I am sure even if you are the state governor, you will prefer to open your economy. Nigeria as a whole and each state government is loosing so much under this lockdown as compare to any kind of donations they are receiving

Luckydubby7:
. just wait until some state governors start quoting how much dey have spent to fight covid19. then you can come back to me.

They can do that even more in the name of contracts award etc during normal activities. So I don't still understand. They are going to loose more money from FG allocation and IGR, so what's the point in deliberately locking down?

dederocs:
Dont mind the dummies, how much is Corona money compared to lagos IGR.

Honestly I am taken aback with how some people reason and put out things here. It doesn't add up at all. The FG and state governments are loosing billions due to lock down and people keep saying they are locking down to make money. The more they make money the easier it is for them to embezzle. How much do they even realize from Covid-19 during lockdown compared to when everything was normal?

Luckydubby7:
. U are generalizing it. He didn't Lagos state but individuals like d governor, commissioner for health, some health workers, ncdc staff in Lagos etc.

But how? I thought the more money coming to the coffers,the more the governor or others can embezzle. Without lock down, there will be more money coming, so I don't still get it

Kazim88:
In another word, Only states with spikes like Lagos would be shutdown.

Lagos State Govt and NCDC would be happy with this news... More money to their account.

Please how are they making more money during the lock down? Can you throw more light? For a state like Lagos, the amount of money they make in a day as IGR when the state is at full function is far more than what they can get during lockdown. So I don't understand your point of more money

nairamaniac:
These ones dont hv problems.

They shd come to nigeria and see how each state Governor is fighting hard to top the table as if its Premier League

Not true, where do you factor Kogi and Cross River, even Rivers in your all states assertion? On the contrary, I don't think any state is fighting to top Covid-19 cases. To what end exactly? Shutdown their economies? Reduce revenues? Job lost? etc. The theory is just a figment of imagination of a few

White007:
I tell you bro. The ignorance and stupidity of some Nigerian youths cannot be quantify. How they celebrate criminals that have kept them in perpetual poverty and misery remains a mystery. Is it that they don’t know their history or have they been bewitched?

people that always insult Buhari for not having mansions and only 150 cows? The other day, they were insulting one efcc man like that for not taking 100 million bribe

Vibra:
Online poll to decide if they should continue lockdown..

What is the meaning of all these nonsense?
What about millions of people who don't have access to internet?
I'm tired of saying, I'm tired of Nigeria

And why will Lala click on undecided just check poll results?
O ga o

You can imagine the motive behind Lala's voting. That is how someone will be in Maiduguri and vote for continuation or not

internationalman:
Non can be compared to Man Utd case

Your opinion though, but there is no official statistics anywhere to back your claim.

internationalman:
There was never a champions league semi final match between barca and Liverpool when Bellamy was a Liverpool player..

Clattenburg was a Man Utd referee. I remember him giving two Chelsea players red card and awarding a pk to Man Utd after Chelsea was leading by 2 goals..

That does not make him no where a manutd rafree. Going by your judgement, teams will be accused of having their referee week in week out. Do you know how many decisions were awarded to the same Chelsea unjustly the next week or the season?

Amumaigwe:
Check well Mr Commissioner. Niger delta are not Igbos, how can they be IPOB? Okpanam for that matter

Hanhan, Oga you self reason what you write now. IPOB is international, isn't it? Then, why will you doubt they exist in a border state with Anambra. They may be their members or not, but your comment sounds somehow

I am sure the driver's superiors pushed him out on this errand while lazily gossiping in their offices as is typical of most public workers. They should be the ones receiving the big hammer

3Ceagle:
Government in Nigeria is not proactive, be at state or federal level. In advance worlds, they convert their weakness to strength, while we simple resign to faith by not doing anything. Venice and Amsterdam developed a city on water which attract tourist across the world. We just have governments that lack capacity to create real infrastructural development. Yet you see government praise singer all over the places. Until we understand that politicians are our employees and one cardinal responsibility beyond obeying the laws, is to demand for accountability and to show our displeasure in a very civil way.

I agree with you completely. For as far as I can remember, this issue like many bedeviling our country have not changed. The politicians have successfully divided the populace along ethno religious lines evident here on nairaland. Our situation is now almost irredeemable

I don't know why this land in the east is so prone to erosion. If you physically look at it, it looks very strong but small rain and everything will change. Erosion control should be a top policy priority of the east governors with strong support from FG. People continue suffering this year in year out

Peterobi90:
But the hotelier was cautioned, he brandished guns and threatened anyone who came close... different calibers of people exist, moreover the law was spelt out before the incidence.

You don't understand, what was spelt out shouldn't have been spelt out in the first place. It is what was spelt out that resulted to the action.
There are far better ways of handing this issue as we see in other states and as people have Said here severally. The punishment is just overboard. For me, it an equivalent of a judge sentencing a Maggi stealer to death by hanging.

Peterobi90:
What are you people angry about?... kaduna is on lockdown for 1months and has realized 1.9m in fines under 2 weeks.. how come no attacks on elrufai?..

If police meets you outside after 8pm in Lagos, you would pay dearly for it.. how come no one is discussing that?..

I think the difference is in the mode of enforcement of the lockdown. The hoteliers in Rivers would gladly part with 5 million each than their property demolished. A car owner whose car was impounded will part with 200k as a fine than his car going to auction.
You can see the difference now. Wikes actions are on the extreme compare to other state governors.

You will not see FFK, Omokri, Timi and the rest condemn this extreme actions by the power drunk governor

This life. I thought people were insinuating that the govs are announcing audio Covid-19 for the sake of money, how come they are crucifying oga Bello for not announcing any case

nairalandankrah:
but wait, kano desperately trying to dislodge Lagos from top of table

No body is competing with Lagos on the strength of the posted results. How can almost thrice the result of Kano be a desperate competition? At this rate, the projected 120k results by July will be achieved in Lagos

Sermwell:
that technicalities doesn't hold water please.....This is a funny position by the Supreme court. Section 396(7) of the Administration of Criminal Justice Act (ACJA) provides as follows:
'...notwithstanding the provision of any other law to the contrary, a Judge of the High Court who has been elevated to the Court of Appeal shall have dispensation to continue to sit as a High Court Judge only for the purpose of concluding any part-heard criminal matter pending before him at the time of his elevation and shall conclude the same within a reasonable time : Provided that this subsection shall not prevent him from assuming duty as a Justice of the Court of Appeal.”

The apex court further held that section 396(7) of the Administration of Criminal Justice Act (ACJA), 2015 which allows the President of the Court of Appeal to issue a fiat to Justice Idris to adjudicate on the case is a nullity as it conflicts with the provisions of the 1999 constitution.

The controversial section 396(7) of ACJA, which was declared a nullity by the Supreme Court reads;

“Notwithstanding the provision of any other law to the contrary, a Judge of the High Court who has been elevated to the Court of Appeal shall have dispensation to continue to sit as a High Court Judge only for the purpose of concluding any part-heard criminal matter pending before him at the time of his elevation and shall conclude the same within a reasonable time: Provided that this subsection shall not prevent him from assuming duty as a Justice of the Court of Appeal.”

However, the apex court held that the Fiat issued to justice Idris by the president Court of Appeal President dated July 2, 2019 pursuant to section 396(7) of the Administration of Criminal Justice Act was unconstitutional.

Justice Eko held that ” the president of the Court of Appeal acted ultra vires her powers when she issued the fiat to Justice Idris to sit as a judge of the Federal High Court.

“The Federal High Court and the Court of Appeal are established by the Constitution with distinct powers and functions. The president of the Court of Appeal has no powers to assign dual powers to a Justice of the Court of Appeal to meddle in the internal affairs of the Federal High Court.

“Justice Mohammed Idris having been elevated to the Court of Appeal ceased to be a Judge of the Federal High Court and therefore lacked the jurisdiction to adjudicate on the case.

“Section 396(7) of ACJA did not give him new powers to perform dual functions.

Section 396(7) of ACJA conflicts with section 253 of the constitution which provides that: “The Federal High Court shall be dully constituted if it consists of at least one judge of that court. It is therefore a nullity.

“The implication is that Justice Idris acted without jurisdiction. It is settled law that jurisdiction is the life wire of adjudication and if a court has no jurisdiction to decide a case, the proceedings remain a nullity ab initio, no matter how well conducted and decided. This is so since a defect in competence is not only intrinsic but also extrinsic to the entire process of adjudication.

“Accordingly, the judgment delivered on December 5, 2019 I hereby set aside. The case file is to be remitted to the Chief Judge of the Federal High Court to be assigned to another judge for trial de novo.

“This is because you cannot put something on nothing and expect it to stand as the whole trial was a nullity ab initio”, Justice Eko held.

In her contribution to the judgment, Justice Amina Augie held that section 396(7) of ACJA ” has no place in our statute books. A Justice of the Court of Appeal cannot go back to the High Court and put up a new cap to president on cases. The section is inconsistent with the Constitution and is therefore null and void.”

Sermwell:
that technicalities doesn't hold water please.....This is a funny position by the Supreme court. Section 396(7) of the Administration of Criminal Justice Act (ACJA) provides as follows:
'...notwithstanding the provision of any other law to the contrary, a Judge of the High Court who has been elevated to the Court of Appeal shall have dispensation to continue to sit as a High Court Judge only for the purpose of concluding any part-heard criminal matter pending before him at the time of his elevation and shall conclude the same within a reasonable time : Provided that this subsection shall not prevent him from assuming duty as a Justice of the Court of Appeal.”

There is another thread just now on the front page. Read and see how the justices dimistify the section of ACJA you are quoting. It is quite educative.

Utchman1:
So how will you buy meet? Do you know what this would do to the price of poultry products. From this singular act, no one will bring cow or any other food item to Rivers state. Then how do we survive without meat? In all other states: Lagos, Abuja e.t.c, food items and pharmaceutical products are exempted.

If your problem is the people they are carrying in the truck, there are other ways you can handle that; like isolation or testing them since there is now a testing center in Port Harcourt. Everything is not handled with iron fist. Some thought should be applied.

I wonder why people are applauding him for that. In reality the 14 persons-7 per trailer is not out of order in moving a truck of cattle. At minimum, you have the driver, motor boy that have nothing to do with the cattle control. The remaining five people keep controlling the cows constantly, one at the back, one in the middle and at the front. Considering the journey is for days, they may need to take turns for the control. Once a cow goes down and they don't see it, it so dead automatically, the rest will match it. The best is to just isolate and test them, otherwise they should prepare for food crisis

wisekings:
yes but they smuggled 14 persons with the cows

I think they didn't smuggle people actually. If I read well, there were two trailers involved. For moving a trailer load of cattle, 7 persons are actually not too much per trailer. You have the driver, a motor boy(sometimes two), and the remaining that control the cattle throughout the journey. Moving a trailer of cattle involves a lot of efforts to control them in transit actually

Great guy. I like the way he plays

ursamajor:
Nigeria's Supreme court is slowly becoming a disappointment under CJN Tanko.

I don't agree with you, at least not on this one. The whole blame should go to the high court, who assigned an unqualified judge to deliver judgement. Up holding the judgement would be outright miscarriage of Justice to Kalu, regardless that he stole. The defence saw a loop hole in the judgement and perfectly exploited it. The supreme Court did excenlently in the case on the contrary, not acquitting him but ordering reassignment. It is a technical judgement, yes, but the whole law and court process is built on technicalities. Additionally, emotions are not part of law but facts. The fact upon which Kalu challenged the lower judgement was valid under the law.

LaIabobo:
Look as the reason for nullifying the conviction.
This is purely a bought judgement.

Some times we need to cut this judges some slack. The basis of this judgement is fair to Kalu, the lower court should be blamed. The judge that sentenced Kalu did not have any power to do so. Be it technical as it is, it is a strong point for the defence under law. The supreme Court couldn't have done otherwise once it was proven, so we cannot blame them. Infact, doing the opposite would be complete miscarriage of Justice against the defendant. He may be guilty but a new judge, qualified to pronounce it under the law will have to do so.