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Family › Re: Can You Address Your Husband As "SIR" Or "DADDY"? by 5minsmadness:
@cococandy
See what i mean? Why go into a marriage with such a huge chip on your shoulder? How do you expect such a marriage to last? Too many women see men as barbaric, cheating control freaks and too many men see women as sharp-tongued , disrespectful gold diggers.
Both sides are looking for what to get from each other in marriage instead of what they can give.
I'm trying to find a balance. If there is no outright violence I try to listen to both sides of the story not just condemn one person on the storytellers point of view alone. If we keep shouting at each other without finding the root of the problem, the problem will never be solved.

My Calabar chic used to call me Daddy. I was 25 then. It was sexy as hell grin
And in no way did it make me look down on her angry
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 5:50pm On Sep 01, 2014
Godmystrength: this is not you...
Really? Its not? Gee thanks. Glad you noticed.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness:
cococandy: @5minmadness, I read your seemingly 'extrapolative' post and all I got is that you think a woman should be dictated to.
Sorry that's all it says.
Really? That's all you got from that exceedingly long post? Pity. I really put effort into typing it. Oh well.

I don't care if the man is a demon or whatever.
Neither do I care if the wife is stubborn or a hot head.
I'm not interested in name calling.
(I'm sure both have their own issues)
Thanks. Nothing as refreshing as a balanced view.

But there's something lacking in this marriage and it is respect.
However one tries to look at it.
There's no respect.
But you have to earn the respect. Isn't that what you ladies always tell us men?

Your post encourages the wife to tip toe around her own home (but of course it's never a woman's home. Is it? It's the man's and she's a tenant that can be chased out at any time).
My post encourages the woman to live at peace with her husband. If she no get power make she no go fight.
The bracketed sentence is your reasoning, not mine.

Anyway to my point. It doesn't matter if she tries any of those skirmishes or side steps you think is the solution,he'll find something else to 'punish' her for.
Your cause and effect phrase doesn't hold water here.
Yes it does. Why would a man who carried a woman to the altar, financed her education(things insecure men won't do for fear their wives will become 'too wise'), and had 4kids with her suddenly want to get her out of the house. So.etching must have turned the rosy marriage into a bed of thorns. What was it? If we find the problem can't we find the solution?
Is there ever any reason that will make you agree that a woman has cause to punish her husband?
Of course not. Why should there be? Aren't wives glorified slaves 'under the man's roof' 'in the man's house' or whatever other phrase that suits yous tastes
Lol! Who still thinks like this? Have you been living in the dark ages? Which sane man in this day and age thinks this way? I think you have been reading too much of Chimamanda's books.


For peace to reign,she has to obey the oga.
So where does it stop?
Where does one a draw a line?
If that's what it takes for peace to reign at that moment then yes she should do it. Two people stamping their feet on the ground and screaming at the top of their lungs has never solved anything. One person has to be the mature one and back down once in a while else the situation escalates.

Today it's 'don't bath'
Say she finds a way to get around it by obeying or going out to bath(I can't even get my head around this suggestionangry )
Or lying that their neighbor pumped the water etc etc

Tomorrow it will be 'don't cook' (maybe because he thinks she's spending too much on groceries)
What then?
She'll beg for food or eat at their neighbors with the kids or go to a restuarant,eat and come back to pretend that she hasn't eaten?
Just so that she won't go against oga's command.
If Oga is increasingly finding fault with madam then there is an underlying problem. Why not find out what the problem is in a calm manner and seeing if it can be solved?

When you guys say some of the things you do,do you even pause to think that women are human beings and have feelings,pride and self worth?

The other day it was wife must greet first
Another day it's another silly thing
Today wife must obey no matter how xtupid the command is


How do y'all define marriage?

It is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!!!
Thank you
How do you define marriage? Do you feel that marriage is a trap when men are lords and masters and women are slaves? If you do then anything the man does will annoy you, any move the man makes will be scuntinised by you to see if he is trampling on your rights or not.

That is no way to live. That is no way to be happy.

There's a thread going on now about whether a lady can call her man Sir or Daddy. There are going to be dissenting views.I have ignored it so far not because i care either way but because I know its going to be another gender war there. Ladies are going to be screaming that the man is not their King so why should they call him daddy?

Well, why did you marry him then? If you cannot see him as your king how do you expect him to treat you like his queen?

Of course men see women as human beings. You ladies should see men as human beings too. We have feelings, pride and self-worth too. And if you trample on that, well...retaliation is inevitable.

If you both love each other none of this fighting for respect or rights will occur in the first place.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 4:05pm On Sep 01, 2014
pickabeau1: Now you have posted the mainstream view that some females in the family section want to hear
You have gotten on with the program

5minsmadness

How far with zombie tales na
My brother embarassed embarassed
Those writers in lit section are trying aswear embarassed
Don't know how they do it.
Will update as soon as I can
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 3:44pm On Sep 01, 2014
What ?? angry angry angry
How can a normal person drive his wife out just like that!
Some men are not fit to be husbands angry
Nonsense
Does he think his wife is a slave? What an ignoramus!
The woman should leave the smelly bastard and file for divorce and make sure she collects her children!


There. Happy? Good. Over and out.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness:
bukatyne: Where have you been?

How are you and family?

Take care cheesy

P.S.: 5minsmadness has started siding the man na

The woman will still come back to beg.

You know respect is NOT reciprocal/mutual that's why men can treat their spouses like sh.it

The man is only trying to be a Naija hubby. The woman has started begging angry
Choi!

I am not siding the man oh.

I'm simply hesitant in crucifying him on the cross until I hear both sides of the story.

Too many extrapolative arguments here, its like I'm back in my Architecture class.

I'm a firm believer in cause and effect.
That is, for something to happen, something else must have taken place.

If the man got angry enough to tell her not to pump water for two days it might be because he had been telling her over and over and over again and she refused to listen.

I honestly don't see how feasible that punishment would have been. If he lives in the same house will he use his urine to cook his meals or have his bath or drink when he is thirsty?
Will he sit down and let his children die of thirst?
Will he be able to stand the smell of the children or his wifw after the first day?
And which landlord made of flesh and blood will stop a paying tenant from pumping water for his/her own use? After I've paid my rent finish you deny me pumping water? Its not possible!

Also I feel the wife acted too hastily. She should have waited for the man to come home that night to the reality and consequence of no water in the house. Smelly wife, smelly kids, no food. He would have found an excuse to reverse his opinion because there's no way no water in the house won't inconvenience him as well.

OR.

Wife could have done what she did, pumped the water etc and simply say it was the tenant that pumped it. Easy. He can't go out and beat the tenant can he?

OR

Found another way to get water for herself and her kids. When the man comes back and sees water in the jerrycan and asks she can say she fetched it outside.

OR

Take her bath in the neighbors or a friends house like someone here suggested.

BUT NO.
as Oga was marching out of the compound she marched to her friends house and stubbornly collected the gen to pump water even as Oga had expressly told her NOT to do so.
She knew she was inviting trouble but she went ahead and did it to see if Oga will do anything.

Now Oga has played his last card and we are screaming 'demon'.

Let me make it clear that I pity the woman.
No woman should be treated like that.
But she knows the kind of man she married.
She could have easily avoided the situation but she didn't .

Stubborn.

Stubborn women can turn men who were kind enough to finance their education in the past into demons.
It doesn't just spontaneously happen.

If you still don't get what I'm trying to say then its OK. Ignore this post and read the next one instead.
TV/Movies › Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by 5minsmadness: 1:21pm On Sep 01, 2014
Maleficent.
Angelina jolie really lost weight shocked
Great movie. Great storyline.
Didn't believe the whole 'maleficient was once a good fairy' thing though.
Those huge horns and taloned wings were there for a reason.
Totally enjoyed it and would watch it over and over again.

Ninja Apocalypse
.
The advert looked good so I bought it embarassed embarassed embarassed
Wasn't so bad, low budget, a few underfed unknown actors but still managed to keep me riveted to the screen.

Cloud Atlas!

Cooooool movie! All about reincarnation and how we make the same mistakes over and over again in different lifetimes until we finally learn. Great special effects, great acting, the likes of tom hanks, Halle berry, the guy that acted as Mr Smith in matrix, and many more.
Family › Re: Parent: How Can We Put An End To Porn Videos On The Internet by 5minsmadness: 12:04pm On Sep 01, 2014
ayanah: Through phones not computer. I don't allow my kids on my laptop, it has password.
How old are your kids again?
Can't you give them phones that don't have internet access?
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 11:29am On Sep 01, 2014
NoQualms1: Sorry to digress, are you the same as 'guitar life'?
Who?
huh
Never heard of him.
Health › Re: Owerri, IMO State Records New Ebola Case! by 5minsmadness: 6:48am On Sep 01, 2014
But for goodness sake why do they keep running away?
Don't they know they spread the disease by doing so?
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 8:55pm On Aug 31, 2014
SAMBARRY: sign of weakness means he's not man enough to be a man.EOD!


mods come and lock this thread. Some of the post I am reading here is unbelievable. I can't believe some supposed human beings will stoop so low to type insane and inconsiderate things undecided
I agree with you on the bolded.
Family › Re: Parent: How Can We Put An End To Porn Videos On The Internet by 5minsmadness: 7:50pm On Aug 31, 2014
1. Restrict access to the internet in your home. Make sure they use it only when you are around, preferably on only ONE laptop.

2. Make a habit of checking through your browsing history every night before you go to sleep. This will be easier for you if your kids are using only one device. It tells you what your kids browsed in your absence and will let you k ow if your kid is going astray early so you can correct him/her.

3. Instill good morals in your children early on. The world is becoming more wicked and things previously seen as abominable are now being defended as 'normal' 'inevitable' etc. These words are lies from the pit of hell but are all part of the master plan to bring about the end of the world. Yes it is coming. And peoplewill be too busy partying to notice when it does.

4. P0rn easily destroys morals and self control. Once addicted the person finds it very difficult to stop aandcobsoles himself by saying it is normal. Same person will find no problems with lesbianism or homosexuality. Same person will slowly become a seeker of pleasure instead of a goal-getter. Realise what you are saving your children from when you prevent them from watching p0rn. It will encourage you to work harder to train them in good morals.

The way the world is going, p0rn will soon be advertised on large billboards on the streets like MTN or beer adverts. It is inevitable. It is the way the world will go. Indecency will be the norm and those that practice chastity and good morals will be seen as uncivilised, boorish, not up-to-date. If your children are well trained they will stand fast in these times and train their own children to do the same.

Being a parent means you are reaponsible for that child's welfare, both financial, physical, spiritual and mental.
Be a good parent.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 7:30pm On Aug 31, 2014
PassingShot: This is really annoying to read!

Even with all your "could it be's", no sane man should have to humiliate his wife that way. You don't even have to treat your house help like that. It's a sign of weakness on the part of the man.
Some women can drive men to do bizzaire and insane things. It has been happening since the dawn of time.



Also I'm curious to know how its a sign of weakness. And what would be a sign of strength? I'm asking from a purely curious standpoint.
Health › Re: How I Survived Ebola - Late Nurse's Fiance by 5minsmadness: 2:21pm On Aug 31, 2014
cococandy: A normal person would have stayed away just to preserve what little chance they had at escaping the disease in case they hadn't already got infected
Family › Re: 4 Kids But Her 3rd Child Is Not For Her Husband... by 5minsmadness: 1:40pm On Aug 31, 2014
Personally sha, I wouldn't want to know.
Family › Re: 4 Kids But Her 3rd Child Is Not For Her Husband... by 5minsmadness: 1:37pm On Aug 31, 2014
And what if there was an error in the DNA test?
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 7:34pm On Aug 30, 2014
SAMBARRY: So she had to beg or be patronized before she baths? undecided

are you reading your posts at all undecided


must you justify stoopeedeety.so he wants to prove he's a man.like you dared me . Are you for real? Of course when a woman's source of livelihood is from all knowing oga she has to beg.if them check it now them go see say she no get job or good education hence beg oga before poverty finish am.an empowered woman for don eaka tey tey but illiteracy and poverty fuels foolishness, subserviency and over dependence lipsrsealed

who suppose carry her pikin and take necessary documents before leaving him to wallow in filthiness
She is free to 'waka' oh, nobody is stopping her. Na op talk say she dey beg to come back.

Meanwhile you are free to go and eat your road side isi ewu but no forget say ebola dey town tongue


today I went to my tailors shop to collect my dress and a woman was complaining of maggots she saw inside the roadside isi ewu she was eating unfortunately she saw it to late when she has put some morsels in her mouth.

Bottom line continue dey eat doti dey call am food. Them go soon cook rat intestine for you you go call am round about tongue
On the contrary , Madam zubairu owns one of poshiest, air-conditioned restaurants in town grin All the big bankers go there smiley
And Ebola is gotten from poorly cooked monkey or rat meat. As far as I know, madam serves her monkey well cooked grin
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 7:22pm On Aug 30, 2014
3cycle: Sorry I said your head is little.
Large head, are you happy now? undecided
Yes, thanks.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 7:18pm On Aug 30, 2014
SAMBARRY: are you sure you yourself dey baf everyday. Why are you supporting the man's dirtiiness
Sorry for the delay. Went to have my bath grin
Sambarry/kulyie abeg free me grin You know say this Na d first time I dey quote you for nairaland grin biko nu cry cheesy
Family › Re: Mama's Babies - Daddy's "NO WAY!!!" by 5minsmadness: 6:26pm On Aug 30, 2014
@zboyd.
Yeah I read the whole thing.

Well, I haven't seen or heard anybody divorcing their wives or denying the albino child education or killing them at birth. And like I said I have three of them as friends, all graduates, all married (2ladies and one guy). And they don't go about skulking that people are going to throw rotten apples at them in the street and shout 'outcast'. In fact I don't think anybody is regarded as outcast again, maybe the 'OSU's' but I doubt it .


As for rituals, yeah, that happens unfortunately. Same for hunchbacks, cripples, and any other being seen as abnormal.


All the same, interesting read.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 6:09pm On Aug 30, 2014
3cycle: I did not ask you, keep it for you. undecided
Btw that isn't me on my profile.
I love the dress and want to share her style.
Its a public forum, currently being viewed by 16people. I didn't post it for you alone.


Its a nice dress, decent with a design that accentuates the woman's curves. The purple goes well with her tone of skin and the necklace although subtle is a good accessory match for her shoes.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 6:05pm On Aug 30, 2014
3cycle: Who is asking anybody to insult anyone? I started a thread seeking ways to advice my friend and your little head told you I started a "husband" bashing thread?
SMH
You started a thread calling the man a demon.

Now you say my head is little. SMH.
You see what I'm saying? If I start insulting you back even subtly a certain mod will tell me to mind my manners.
Try and discuss without the subliminal insults please. You are a lady, remember.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 5:58pm On Aug 30, 2014
SAMBARRY: So you mean he can comfortably eat the food of somebody that didn't bath for 2days.abi?




The woman sef no try. She suppose go baf for her neighbours house, dress and come back to the house and pretend she didn't bath
Ehen! Thats what I'm trying to say! Better ways at conflict resolution instead of the one of sticking her head out unnecessarily.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness:
SAMBARRY: But it's not sickening not to bath for 2days.is it not crystal clear that the man wants to get rid of her




if you know say your sister no baf for 2days courtesy her husband and she came to your house you no go lock your kitchen? undecided



its not about male bashing but what's wrong is wrong. Dirtiness is a bad spirit which you shouldn't force on anyone. If you don't want to bathfor one year no problem but to force someone you are living with into your Dirtiness is disgusting to say the least.



If a woman didn't bath her young child for 1day I go bash her taya on or of nl talk less of 2days.you to look am and women's bodies aren't the same with men.if dirt dries up in that body it can lead to something else and that's not the same with men
Pardon me, men smell just as badly as ladies if they haven't had their bath for a day, unless the woman is seeing her period.

Secondly I'm not supporting anybody not having their bath. I'msaying the man probably didn't mean it, he said it out of anger and he got all the more angry when he came back ?in the evening? to see she had already dared him.
Anger breeds anger. The cycle can only be stopped when one person calms down. If he was angry when he left the house and she knew logically there was no way the 'no water ' thing would hold even past that day she should have been prudent enough to wait. When evening comes and then night and she goes to him and say 'so you are really serious about this water thing? No problem o, but we must sleep in the same bed so you can enjoy my smell with me, etc! ' , the man will probably relent after that.

There are better ways to resolve this conflict than to quickly go to your neighbors and borrow gen to pump knowing fully well it will only make your Oga feel stupid and piss him off further. Okay now she is begging to come back and you people are saying she should divorce but obviously she knows better.

I'm saying some squabbles don't need to be escalated. There is a way the bible put it but unfortunately I can't remember now(backsliding things SMH grin) about a sweet tongue turning away anger.

What I find is most women are sharp with their tongue. You talk one they talk 100 then when Tue man makes good his threat they now start crying up and down as if they have been murdered.

Well, I don talk my own sha. Make I waka my own, mama zubairu dey cook isi-ewu special tonight tongue
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 5:41pm On Aug 30, 2014
3cycle: Please tell me what actually makes marriages turn sour after a short while? Before I go into it and regret ever existing
1. Deciet: not telling your partner the whole truth and then expecting them to 'take it in their stride' when they find out after marriage e.g behaviour, health issues, family issues, financial issues, sexual issues and finally(yes this is the last one) fertility issues.

2. Know the kind of person you marry. He/she will not magically change after the wedding vows.

3. Marrying for selfish reasons. If you marry with the 'me' mentality e.g what can he do for me, what can she do for me' what can I gain from him or her etc. If you do that you'll probably become single again very soon.

4. Don't be smart. When you get married you'll live with this person forever. If you think you are doing something secret and they don't know it then you are deceiving yourself. Not all people like direct confrontation. If he/she is getting angry for 'no reason' then he/she may have found out and is trying to pay you back.

Others can add. I have some questions to answer elsewhere.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 5:25pm On Aug 30, 2014
3cycle: The switches are not connected to my house.

You don't understand, the man doesn't want anybody to pump the water (tenants inclusive)
Call it transfer of aggression sir.
[s]
By the way do you support a man treating his wife like a slave so she will stay out of trouble and be tagged "submissive".
SMH you are worst than my neighbor's husband[/s]

Lastly don't ever refer to me as a "girl" call me lady.
So because I didn't join the chorus in insulting the man without listening to both sides of the story I must be a slave dealer and worse than your neighbor. Lol.

Nope. I simply like to be analytical about things and I try not to let my emotions becloud my judgement on Saturdays. smiley

Also I don't subscribe to joining the crowd so as to receive accolades and 'likes'. I try to tell it as it is.


I saw your picture on your profile and felt it would be preferable to you to address you as girl instead of woman. But if you prefer lady, fine, its no skin off my bones.
Note:
You are only addressed as a lady if you behave like one: a lady has finesse, class, is calm and collected, not rude, polite, truthful etc.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 5:09pm On Aug 30, 2014
SAMBARRY: I don't care if the woman is heady but it takes only a swine.a filthy pig for that matter to tell another person not to bath for 2days ahannnnn shocked


he is supposed to feel uncomfortable that anybody around him didn't bath and you are ok with your wife not bathing for 2days shocked




I don't need anyone to tell me that dude is dirty as fok lipsrsealed




[size=14pt]Assuming he even wanted to punish his wife and say no cooking and eating for two days that's still reasonable but not bathing for 2days. Hiannnn I won't be surprised if he doesn't bath for one week and wear boxers that sweat mixed with semen has dried inside.tufiaaaaaa[/size] lipsrsealed



I can't even go anywhere or do anything if I don't bath in the morning and then coming back from work bath again in the evening undecided





after now na their type go dey day my wife's pooshie is smelling or her armpit stinks




some people dey try o.their bedroom go dey smell pass mortuary when them dey use water do bathing strike. Iyama undecided
No cooking and eating for two days is better than not bathing for 2days? So you people can come and quickly open thread 'Man tries to starve family to death?' grin

Its obvious he didn't mean to go through with his threat, he just said it out of anger; only to come home and see that wife had pumped water and even tell him to his face 'yes! I pumped water and there is nothing you can do about it!' . so he did something about it.

Stubborn.

All the other things you said were just to insult the man. I guess this is kind of a pity party.
Those of you already screaming for divorce, please note that divorce can sometimes work in the man's favour as well. He might even ask for the divorce before she does. Just saying.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 4:56pm On Aug 30, 2014
3cycle: huh huh Am lost what are you trying to say?
Calm down.
I said if the tanks are not connected to your house then there is no way lack of water in their house would have affected you. So that your statement of him wanting all of you(yourself included) to go without water was not correct.




My second statement was that if you meant to say the switch was not connected to your house then your landlords wife could have simply carried your gen like she did and pump the water BUT claim that you were the one that pumped it for your own use. He definitely wouldn't object to a paying tenant pumping water for her use. That would have saved her all the trouble of clashing with her husband. Unless she's the very stubborn type. Which takes me back to the first scenario that the reason for all of this is the woman's stubbornness and uncooperativeness.
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 4:45pm On Aug 30, 2014
smokescreen4: 5minsmadness please speak for yourself, we are not babies we see these things happen all the time, dat man don get babe outside e no dey think straight he just need time to play well dats why he drove her, cause and effect my foot.
Did you see the babe?
Did op even hint he was cheating?
I thought you girls just surmised that he's ugly as an ape, now he has a babe following him?

What was the purpose of this thread? To start another rant against men?

This is family section for goodness sake! Its a place where people are supposed to come for help concerning family issues, not a male-bashing or pity-party place! If you ladies are so adamant about airing your views against men you can ask seun to create an 'the evils of men' section.

A girl comes online and starts a thread with how men become demons and all the ladies are like "Yes! Men are eeeeevilll!" Yet you won't leave men alone! And all males that agree with you without question are tagged 'mature'. Its sickening!
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 4:37pm On Aug 30, 2014
3cycle: Well I can't pump water from my house because the tanks/sumo is not connected to my house.
I'm done replying you
Its OK if you don't reply me.
But this your last post raised more questions.

If the tanks/sumo are not connected to your house, how is it you said
His plan was that all of us(my self inclusive) will stay without water
How would it have affected you if the tanks were not connected to your house.?

OK,maybe you meant the circuit for the pump wasn't connected to your house. But then you still use the water. And you are a paying tenant (hopefully). Why didn't you simply carry your gen to the circuit and pump the water instead of the wife doing it? Why put herself into so much trouble if a tenant could easily do it and claim he wants water for himself? Would he drive the paying g tenant out of the house? You see why the story looks somehow to me?
Family › Re: Husband Sends Wife Packing For having Her Bath. by 5minsmadness: 4:05pm On Aug 30, 2014
3cycle: I don't want to say you are daft but honestly you sound like one.
A man like that will punish anybody just to get to his wife.
I live in ths same compound with him, if not that I have a big container I store water in, his plan was that all of us(my self inclusive) will stay without water.
What will I gain if I cook up lies? Will u pay me? Shift abeg
And this is the thing with ladies.
Two posts gone and the insults start flying.
I didn't mean to say you were lying, I was just thinking the story was a bit one sided.
Men don't spontaneously turn into demons.
There is always a CAUSE which brings about an EFFECT.



And sorry oh, but if you stay in the same compound with him and his decision affects you like you said, what stopped the wife from saying YOU pumped the water? In fact, what stops you from pumping the water yourself? Would he drive you out too if you did?

Hmmmn. OK sha.

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