₦airaland Forum

CalciumB3:
Death!!!!!! Where are thou?

Leave this people alone and focus on our leaders..

We pray thee

What's the difference between your leaders and someone who allegedly committed fraud of Bilions?

This is not only failing students but failing lecturers as well. What is the point of educators if the people you're educating cannot grasp your concepts? You might as well be raising cows and selling suya on the streets. If such should happen abroad, the entire department would be queried for incompetence but in a zoo, even monkeys call themselves kings

NonEthniCITY:
If only we can predict how long our "rainy day" could last for in all instances, that would have been great. There are rain that falls for one day, there are some that continuously fall for several days at a time.

Save for rainy day, yes, but don't be so quick to assume many who are suffering today did not save anything for their own rainy day. Life happens!

Savings encompases many things, don't just put your money in the bank but diversify. Investing in real estate, fixed deposit, stocks etc. The reason lots of white families survive even after a disaster is because they have the gift of foresight. Even when all else fails, purchase life insurance. May we never encounter hard times that would make our children sleep inside brothels....Amen!

Ultimately the fault here lies with the man and no one else. No man should ever be without enough funds for raining days, no man should ever live beyond his means. When you start having children, think! What would happen to my children if one of us or both are no longer alive or capable? Are the people around me such as family, friends & peers able to take care of my kids? Questions like these would help motivate a man to save as if there's no tomorrow because truly tomorrow might be too late. In regrds to a woman leaving her kids, IT'S NOTHING NEW. Most women are shortsighted creatures hence when the going gets tough and they see no hope, they are able to bounce unto the next train; only a few women nowadays can truly exhibit the traits of our grandmothers. This is why a man must not plan his life around any woman, always plan your life around your children. Forget that expensive wedding, forget that 3 bedroom house for rent in Lekki, forget buying expensive jewelries or extravagant vehicles. Think more about trust funds, living will that makes sure your savings are there for your kids when they need it. Trust me, they'll pray for you everyday and you'll have peace of mind knowing you did your best!

As much as I admire Jagaban, I don't think we need a controversial figure as president. Rather he should continue nation building through the backdoors and allow someone like Osibanjo or even Fashola to take reigns. Then again the next election si going to be about betrayals and jealously, will the East support a Yoruba candidate or align itself with the North? Would the North allow a Yoruba candidate or prefer to hold on to power? Can the North hold on to power without the support of the SW and the SE/SS? Watch Out for the next season of Game of Foes

bola4dprec:
Relationship that was not formalise and parents of girl were not consented

Your girlfriend or boyfriend, did you seek his/her parents' consent before smashing?

bola4dprec:
It was not stated that if the abductor is a minor he should not be arraigned. That is why we have special court that has jurisdictions offer this matter. Department of Public Prosecution will take over the case. Instead of Commissioner of Police vs Defendant it will be State vs Defendant. Their is no age limit in commission of crime.

Go and read my replies very well, I did not say he could not be arraigned for abduction but that the case lacks merit if the boy can prove a relationship exists. This should be very easy to prove due to social media and other forms of evidence.

bola4dprec:
Law of Federal Republic of Nigeria

Whoever, by any means whatsoever, induces a girl under the age of eighteen years to go from any place or to do an act with intent that the girl may be, or knowing that it is likely that she will be, forced or seduced to illicit intercourse with another person shall be punished with imprisonment which may extend to ten years and shall also be liable to fine.

Number 1: He is a minor himself so such a law does not apply to him.

Number 2: Goodluck proving that he coerced or forced her. All the guy needs to prove is that htey are in a relationship. Text messages, call records, photos together and so on are more than sufficient!

ogbonti:
what is wrong in doing the right thing?

if a man wants to marry am not against it why not marry for love? must it be fraudulent?
meeeeen nigerians are terrible!!!!

Not everyone marries for love, in this particular case the woman was aware that it was a means to an end. I can't fault a man for seeking greener lands but one must do so wisely, play the game and know the rules.

Get the boy a public defender/ human rights advocate, the boy has not committed any crime.

WARNING SIGN #1: Who pays $1500 for a greencard when the normal rate is between 7k to 15k?

WARNING SIGN #2: trying such a thing in this age of Trump where no white person can be trusted.

As a mixed tribe man, I've not profited when a Yoruba was president.
My cousins that are more Igbo have not profited when GEJ was president
My friends in the North are lamenting now that Buhari is president.

If you believe for one second tribe matters in this sh*thole then you must be mentally challenged!

Can't we see they are all the same? Igbo, Fulani, Yoruba, IJaw, everyone of them don't give a damn about the common man. If they did, things would have changed for the better. LOOK AT THIS 20 YEARS CHALLENGE:

Year 2000 Year 2020
Electricity BAD WORSE
Water BAD BAD
Good Roads BAD BAD
Employment BAD WORSE
Security BAD WORSE

Yankee101:
Says the liar

Name one lie I've told!

Yankee101:
Your former president, present king maker and current senator were drug dealers and you feel that's shallow reasoning?

I knew you were fake when you said US pays 2 or 3$

I had your time else I for don leave u for gutter tey tey

Your ignorance is astonishing

Yankee101:
And na we no dey sell drugs and weed abi?

Nigeria is one one the largest conduit for drugs from south america for onward distribution.

Tinubu, IBB (Dele Giwa saga), Kashamu (orange is the new black saga) etc have all been implicated in pushing

Shallow reasoning:

Yahoo is plenty in 9ja = Easy way out
Drug use and sellers plenty in Yankee = No big deal.

Lol....like I said go to bed, logic has left the buidling!

Yankee101:
We're talking about work ethic in naija and yankee.

There's no comparison.

Only the very very poor/artisans/daily pay folks work to the bone in naija. Just so they can survive. The average high school graduate and upwards is not willing to work hard. Why do you think yahoo yahoo is aplenty? Always looking for the easy way out

Laughable.....Why do you think selling drugs/weeds is so numerous in yankee? You have no point jaare, you make blanket statements without supporting facts, abeg go and sleep!

Yankee101:
Check your map, upstate New York train service to Pennsylvania.

And who pays 2 or 3 dollars per hr in the US?

That is what I'm saying, you are comparing workers in Nigeria making an average of $2 to $3 per hour to workers in New York making minimum wage of $7.25 or more. You can't compare work ethics because the scenario is different. This is why I asked you to imagine workers in the USA working for peanuts and going through the stress of getting to work and leaving for home. Imagine the toll it would take on their mental and physical well-being. Yoyu can't give your 100% to a company when you're on the edge of depression, can you?

Yankee101:
People live in New York and commute 2 hours or more by train to Penny

I worked in Nigeria when Glo, MTN, oil ^ Gas and any of the major banks will pay you more than the average American will have as disposable income (glo used to place an advert that do not even apply if you earn less than 20m naira, that was when the naira was less than 100 per usd).

And I noticed the same work ethic in these big companies

There's no one in NY, that would commute 2 hours to work and 2 hours back home for $2 to $3 per hour. GET REAL BRODA! I have been a manager for years now and I also own my own ecommerce business. Let's stop this misinformation!

Yankee101:
Nigerians in diaspora work ethic is not the same as the work ethic in naija. It's like comparing a place where technology (clock-in-clock-out for example) helps productivity with a place where any of your friends can help you sign in the attendance register
because 20% of Nigerians in America have masters does not mean 20% of Nigerians in nigeria have masters.
I've managed resources (human and material) in both economies. So I'm not talking out of thin air.

I maintain my point, put in the same work conditions, the same pay structure and hectic transportation system, the workers in Nigeria would always outperform those in diaspora. You used an example of someone working in McDonalds, trust me such a worker would protest vehemently if he/she received $2 per hour of work after spending almost 2 hours to work and another 2 hours back home.YOU CANNOT IGNORE, contributing factors and then label those in Nigeria has having poor work ethics. Furthermore, signing timesheets or clocking in, does not equal productivity, it only ensures attendance. When I worked in a call center, calls were monitored, tasks were monitored but there was always shortcuts that cam e with experience, so my friend appearance of productivity does not always mean efficiency....lol.

Yankee101:
Nigerians dont work hard and consistently. Only the very poor work hard and consistently just to survive. Go to a McDonald's for example here, from resumption to break time then closing, they are busy on the intercom, cooking, ringing the register, packaging and still smiling when talking to you.

Naija go come late, hide for back, skip hard work, complain, boy go drink on the job, browse for computer all day, try close b4 time etc.

That consistency is what is called productivity. We can't improve the economy is we don't improve our productivity. If you chop wood, chop it according to specification, in a sufficient quantity and done in a timely manner. That's productivity.

With all due respect what you've just stated is pure unfiltered RUBBISH! Average Nigerian works longer hours than their American counterparts, average Nigerian spends almost 2 hours to get to work and 2 or more hours to get back home, all these for less than 40% what their American counterparts are getting. Throughout my career in America, starting from the bottom and then making it into middle management ina Fortune 100 company, I can tell you thatthe work ethics of most Nigerians over gives employers joy. We need to stop this rubbish of assuming Nigerians are lazy, throw the average American into the work conditions we have in Nigeria and watch them go into severe depression.

Redman44:
You have spoken well. State Governors can help in lifting Nigeria into the comity of industrialized nations. This is because there is no one shackling our State Governors from developing their States. When we focus too much on who occupies Aso Rock, we won't be able to see the potentials in the States we live in. Look at Zulum in Borno State. He is building modern classroom blocks all over the State gradually. And Borno State is not even as rich as Ondo, Oyo or Rivers State. States have resources that can be exploited for the development of infrastructure and facilities. The President is not stopping Governors from developing their States. The President does not have control over the resources located in the 36 States of Nigeria. State Governors can invite expatriates and foreign investors to help grow their States economically. So why are we so concerned about who occupies Aso Rock. What are we doing about corrupt Governors?

Correct! If we could all reason well well, we would see that charity begins at home. Let's hold local chairmen, commissioners, Governors responsible. They each get a budget every year, can they account for it?

Okay let's even play along, let's assume we divide.

Yorubas: Who will be president? Tinubu, Saraki, Fashola, Akeredolu?

SE/SS: Amaechi, Jonathan, Kanu, Obi?


Are we not seeing a pattern here? The same corrupt element would still govern us, the same problems would still manifest, they might come in a different shape or form but they would still exist. Look at states like Lagos, Imo, Cros Riv and so on with enough resources to stand alone, how come people in these states are still suffering?

If you had ever benefitted from corrupt politicians, godfathers etc, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO LEAD NIGERIA! Everyone on that list has directly or indirectly benefitted from corruption. Everyone of them would be ashamed if they ever got a chance to debate with logical thinking Nigerians who can expose their records of either actively or passively enabling corrupt government/politicians to flourish. If we are truly serious in this country, everyone on this list should be certified INELIGIBLE!

Lies from the pits of hell! 250 on the dot, not 249, not 248, not 251; a nice rounded figure.....lol.

crestdevelopers:
it's funny how people like to twist the obvious.

Truth is, the world can never get to be a better place when people judge the way you do.. and to be honest you're really lame and petty to come on social media and not hold a constructive argument without the use of foul words. I hope you grow up and be a better person.

Truth is when people like you don't know what the hell you're saying, you tend to miseducate those who don't know better. Your words have consequences and if calling out your BS is that consequence then accept it like a grown up and move the hell on. I didn't go through the rigors of two masters and years of corporate hustle in a top 50 company to be schooled by people who operate based on emotions rather than facts. So shove your advice where the sun don't shine!

A union formed on lies shall see its end in misery. You are the architect of your own downfall, you made your bed now sleep on it!

crestdevelopers:
you've obviously turned out to become a pathetic clown.. if you need more clarity read what I stated out again!

Then ask your friends in foreign countries, what security agencies do when the find out about false alarm. And not this crap you just typed!

I repeat shut the hell up! Law enforcements are going to clarify that it was fireworks and not a bomb afterwards but they are not going to apologize for the arrest as they was reasonable suspicion to act, people get killed for common toy gun and reaching in their pockets to bring out identification not to now talk about fireworks with wiring. No need to argue about this, you only know what you know, can't fault you for being ignorant!

crestdevelopers:
You talk about other foreign countries and I also laugh in my native language

The U.K government will never let a false alarm get into the media and if it mistakenly gets out, there will be an emergency public press statement, discrediting such News!

So yea, the security agencies, the church that let out the information, the media that disseminated the info will all go under the knife. Get that.

Oga with all due respect shut the f*ck up! Ordinary science experiment got siezed for looking like a bomb. Innocent arabs are detained every week in the UK and USA for additional processing. Black men are being shot in the USA for looking suspicious, go and read up about probable cause and then come back to explain why you feel you can tell a cop how and when to get suspicious about you....LMAO!

ChoCho54:
Shooting bangers? Was he cracking the fireworks?

Some were in his car while some were in the duffel bag he carried that obviously contained some of his personal items, the Holy Bible which he needed for church service inclusive.

He also did say he was going to an event or either coming from one,which explains why he had the items with him. why do you continue flogging a dead horse?

The church had every right to panic on sighting such a stuff even remotely, but the police is an embarrassment.

You think Nigerian police are trained to detect fake and real explosives? Even abroad it would be panic first ask questions later. Nobody wants to die, the question still remains, in a part of Nigeria so polarized by religious conflict what gives the guy confidence to bring such to a church? Fireworks or toy, guy must either be stupid or insane!

crestdevelopers:
You will agree with me that the law enforcement agencies that made the arrest did not check to be CLEARLY SURE and prove BEYOND every reasonable doubt that the object was indeed a bomb!

Moving forward, chapter 4, subsection 33 of the Nigerian constitution clearly states that any person who is unlawfully arrested or detained shall be entitled to compensation and a public apology from the appropriate authority and nothing in this section shall be construed!

Best move for the family of the guy to do now is Lawyer their a** up! And sue all security agencies present at the scene and living faith church!

i will forgive your use of abusive and defamatory terms. go and sin no more lad.

I laugh in Swahili. First of all when it comes to security issues, there's a general principle, screw permission and ask for forgiveness later. Unless you want to be jovial, there's no denying that to the average Nigerian the device looks like a bomb. Now whether it is firework or bomb, no reputable court would grant such a person any compensation because there was just cause for suspicion and subsequent arrest. Let's remove the Nigerian element, go abroad, get such a device and leave at in front of a court house and see what happens. You'll see the bomb squad, police, national guard, ambulance etc arrive within minutes, they take security very seriously and we all should do the same!

DarkJeddi:
It is either a bomb or it is not a bomb and it is obviously not a bomb..

The way the Policeman was craddling the so called bomb without a care was suspiciously non chalant..

They certainly knew it was not a bomb..

But..

Hey,why break the narrative?

Saying it's a bomb,obviously sound better to the ear..

Whether it is a bomb or firework is not the issue here. The issue here is why would someone bring such a thing to a church/area in the middle of religious conflicts? In case you don't know, the North is at war! It's like going to Syria or Iraq and shooting bangers, na yourself you dey do!

crestdevelopers:
what are you saying??

Cant you see for yourself? Or you probably didn't even watch the video?

This guy innocently took a firework to church cos obviously, he's into decoration and whatnot, and some idiot saw the package and raised an alarm of it being a Bomb!

This goes further to prove that our security agencies are just a bunch of jokers!

How in the world were they not able to verify that the thing he was in possession of wasnt a bomb!

Stupid and useless bunch of individuals! I'm very sure they would have beaten the hell out of the innocent dude. Just so he confesses positive to the allegations that were put up against him!

I am truly sorry for this nation.!!

Indeed there was a country......

It's either you're purposefully being mischievious or just plain high. I used some examples before so I'll use one more now and I'll be happy if you can try it. Take the firework and enter any police station, media house, government building and say nothing. Let's see what the reaction would be. I am still baffled why anyone would bring such firework to a place of worship. Was the church trying to decorate its buildings with fireworks? We can call security operatives stupid and whatnot but preventation is always better than cure.