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If as a Christian you are not outraged by these so called pastors/church leaders who believe you don't have the brain to vote without religious/ethnic sentiments then you're part of what's wrong with Nigeria. They all shout uniting Nigerians but if a redeemed pastor was not enough to unite us, why don't we kuku shatter the false belief that religion or ethnicity equals good governance?

An evil person will be evil and a good person will be good regardless of religion or tribe.....Forget Tinubu, look at Obi, look at Atiku. They all feared the backlash hence they had to pick VP candidate that they have nothing in common with, this is why the office of VP is now nothing but a joke! Zero trust, zero cohesion, just a bunch of men selling false hope of betterment.....SHAME!

9gerian:
You ask whether people research but yourself regurgitate what the mainstream media has been feeding the public. Now they are trying to backtrack.

But now Europe is in dire straits. Their economy is tanking, and Ukrainians are dying. All because the US wants Russia out of the world power equation, which we can all see is not gonna happen. I guess all these are not enough to convince some people (like you) that this was a bad call. A very bad call most especially for Ukraine, the EU, and even the US citizens. Ukraine should have stayed neutral and reaped benefits from both the west and Russia as a buffer but prosperous zone. Guess what? That is what all these is gonna come to eventually, but with significant territories lost by Ukraine, except something close to a miracle happens.

So far, the only beneficiaries of this conflict are the US military industrial complex whose profits and stocks have gone over the roof, but at the expense of human lives and world peace. I mean what is the end game here, a nuclear war?

Now Russia is getting more battle toughened, mass producing and testing all its sophisticated weapons. And even making more money from rising energy costs while the world risks escalation of the conflict, and bankruptcies across several economies. But your only worry appears to be the nomenclature of whether it is Minsk 1 or 2 agreement.

This is the reason for my sarcasm about the EU leaders showing more solidarity to US interests even if it crumbles their economies as it is unfolding rather rapidly.

I feel so sorry for Ukraine that was goaded to call the bluff of Russia over empty promises of the west to defend it because it was and is still very clear that the US and NATO have no plans whatsoever to engage Russia militarily but only seek to weaken it through a proxy war, with Ukraine as bait.

Why should Ukraine be the grass for 2 well known elephants (US/NATO and Russia) to fight? Not smart imho.

I'm not here for your sentimental jargon, I only responded to your post about EU not asking Ukraine to respect the Minsk agreement. Every other thing is none of my business, I only corrected you on that aspect.....PEACE!

9gerian:
Well, EU needs to support US interests even more to show more solidarity, or how else does one interpret the Russia-Ukraine war that, although was not in Europe’s interest, was fully supported and urged on by EU leaders. Something that could have been easily avoided without a single shot or loss of life, just by simply insisting on Ukraine’s implementation of the Minsk agreement that was signed by all stakeholders.

One must give it to Joe Biden for succeeding in coercing Germany into supporting the script to weaken Russia even against its own interest of stability and prosperity. The Germans must be shaking their heads in utter disbelief.

Minsk agreement or Minsk II? Minsk agreement was already dead and a new agreement, Minsk II was never fully abided by both Ukraine and Russia. In fact Russia insisted it had nothing to do with it since their troops were not in the disputed region(LIES). Russia claims that those troops were freedom fighters and they could not instruct them to leave hence agreement null and voided. Do you people even bother to research before putting out bias statements?

AISHA AGAIN........This woman you no dey fear o

100 billion, how much is Obi's net worth, these people wan cash out early because the writing is on the wall already

Ojuntana:
Well, you're in no position to tell me what to ask. I make my decisions based on what is set before me not what I wish to see.
You're free to ask him those questions that appeal to you just as I'm free to ask him mine.
His age and his health will affect his competence and ability to deliver no matter how nicely padded his blueprint his or how clean he comes across.
It's what Buhari has taught us. He had a policy document in 2015. Brought up a separate one for next level in 2019.
He is much hailed for his personal integrity.
But he's ended up worse than the man he succeeded due to his age and health. We should learn to start drying our clothes from where the rain started beating us.
Simple!

Again na you dey fight yourself, only informed you of your flawed premise, take it or leave it, it's up to you.....PEACE!

Ojuntana:
Provide his economic blueprint then since you have it. Or is agbado and cassava an economic blueprint?
Tinubu should not go in the same sentence with morality.
Tinubu also has health issues. He alluded to same last year or do you live in a cave? Did you not see his shaky hands during the primaries? Why are you wilfully blind? How much was paid for your sight to vanish?

Guy what part of my comment don't you understand? We are saying the same things, we should be asking him where is his economic blueprint? We should be challenging him on his morality or lack thereof. You're so focused on arguing, you don't realize you're making my point for me....Damn!

Hahjascho:
Is it not foolishness to see a deadly red flag and still fall a victim?

Nigerians, see beyond your stomach and selfish interest.

The Norths know where they're heading. It will shock everyone....even the acclaimed APCs from the South. The South is being played through TINUBU. The goal is to immortalise power to the North. Only a fool will believe the North are not politically smart. Some great movies are not just movies. They're subtle way to anonymously communicate salient fact to the uninformed world. Tinubu is getting brainwashed by his personal ambition.

The South need to wake up. We are being played. If made to happen, It will take donkey years to set things in balance again.

Who are you voting for? If you say Obi then you're being played as well because your vote is as good as a vote for Atiku. The North is the winner by any permutation, it just remains whether the South wants to join in the winning or watch from the byline.

Acidosis:
Please what is the common sense between a combination of an 85 year old crook and a renowned boko haram landlord?

Who's 85 o? Una don come again, drama artiste, so Tinubu is now older than Buhari and Obasanjo, well done

Ojuntana:
Well, I mentioned age and health in my initial post.
Don't blame me for your inability to read and understand.
There's nothing ridiculous about my premise to a clear mind

Again you're misinformed, health? Have youa ctually seen his health docs to confirm he's unhealthy? Again leave sentiments and attack him on real issues like his economic blueprint, his morality and so on. Enough of your sentimental B.S.!

Acidosis:
I would rather have an inefficient Christian mess with my security than get killed by a jihadist.

From your wack and perpetually stup!d analysis, you assumed all Christians are clueless while my fate and livelihood rest on the shoulders of Tinubu.

You better go and open a dollar account right now. I am giving you a secret that will prevent your children from swearing for you tomorrow.

What is about to befall you Tinubu cretins ehn... Anyway, gbo gbo yin lo ma kan!

Again rubbish sentiments that makes no sense......All we've been hearing for the past 7 years is how it has never been this worse, how Buhari with a Christian VP could not keep Christians safe and you typed this rubbish? Truly religion above all things even common sense!

Don't worry about my me or my offsprings, both my kids are million dollar babies, secured with investments and life insurance, na poor man dey rely on government......You go dey alright las las

Basicend:
Let me tell you sir, he can't win anything with this Muslim Muslim ticket.

North alone cannot also make Atiku president.

He should have supported his boy Osibanjo.

It was Osibanjo that was planed and by Buhari, and the only was Osibanjo can face Atiku and win is when he has the full support of Buhari (which was in pipe already) and Tinubu.

If those 2 stronghold with the northern cabal pull their weight behind him, APC will have a sound and presentable representation and most likely win.

That was their best choice.

But because of his desperate and greedy interest, lets see how it goes.

Osibanjo can go kick rocks for all I care.....We don't need a puppet in Aso Rock, win or lose Tinubu has earned the right to contest, the rest is up to Nigerians.

All these Obi supporters are drama artistes, when things don't go their way they turn to the usual ethnic, religious and bigotry sentiments. The truth is simple, rather than building bridges and selling your candidate's strong points, una prefer to form keyboard warrior attacking anyone with differing views. In the end the core Northerners won't even look beyond APC or PDP, the SW will not betray its own and vote for Obi hence why bother? There's a reason OBJ did not nominate GEJ directly but instead chose to have him as a VP under a Northerner with he view of him becoming president after the Northerner leaves. Nigeria politics is still very anti SE/SS, not even an innocent Obi is going to wipe off all those years of distrust. UNA WAN HEAR THE TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Ojuntana:
It's obvious you've never attended job interview in a reputable institution. One of the questions you'll need to answer is as it concerns your health. Some companies even go as far as requesting a medical report before you can be employed.
Same with age. You can't get entry level jobs in most reputable organisations in Nigeria if you're above 30 years. Some go as low as 25.
I hope you're no longer ignorant.

P.S. can you tell me Tinubu's economic blueprint? What idea does he have for tackling insecurity apart from the 50 million gaffe? Moral aptitude? Really? Tinubu?

Guy if you want to discuss sensibly compare apples with oranges not sentimental bullshit.......I brought up those other points like economy and morality because they are far better factors to tackle him on than age. I'm not here to argue just pointing out the ridiculousness of your premise!

Truthisunique2:
I didn't have the enthusiasm to vote because I relocated to new area

With this challenge I would rise and go vote against it

Funny enough it has gingered more fence sitting Christian's against him, house to house masses but I am yet to see Muslims supporting him except for his political Muslim friends

That's B.S and you know it, majority of Christians in the SW will still vote for him, the angered ones are the ones in the SE/SS and those were already voting Obi or atiku, so no loss no gain!

MartinsD12:
Hahahaha tinubu is a comedian, I laugh , he will be rejected by Nigerians come 2023 , no two ways about it , he has an Islamic agenda, he just dared christians. He will be taught a bitter lesson 2023

Islamic agenda with Christian wife, EXCELLENT......You people dey do good investigative work, keep it up

If na me be Tinubu I would have chosen the same. The fallout from picking a Northern Christian would have been worse than anything he's bound to face now with a Muslim Muslim ticket. The truth is simple, the battle will be decided and won in the North, nothing the South can do to stop Tinubu from having at least 50% of the votes in the South, so why wouldn't he place all his bets on the North?

Yoruba Muslim Presidential candidate with a Christian wife chooses Northern Christian as VP candidate = DISASTER(Risk level = very high)
Yoruba Muslim Presidential candidate with a Christian wife chooses Northern Muslim as VP candidate = ANNOYANCE(Risk level = medium)

Ojuntana:
If we want to choose our leaders based on competence, Tinubu should not be on the ballot. He's old and frail.
His mantra towards this election has never been about competence. His mantra is "it's my turn". That's a language of sentiment not competence. Now he's chosen his VP based on sectional sentiments as well.
So I don't see why you're preaching competence to us and not to yourself first!

Again you're contradicting yourself, since when does competence have anything to do with old age? You didn't attack him with economic blueprint, tackling security, moral aptitude but your only weapon is AGE? Shame on you!

Acidosis:
I gained a sense of belonging, fairness, and representation.



Sensible countries? Like a Bishop becoming the President of UAE or Saudi Arabia? Or a Muslim becoming the President or even vice president of the USA, the UK, Russia, China, Taiwan, Italy?

Sensible countries are choosing their leaders based on representation, a sense of association and belonging, and competency.

Na you f00lish if you think there are no Christians in a Christian-dominated country like Nigeria that can do the job.

All the countries you mentioned above are not the same, USA does not practice religious government( In fact religion is left out of anything public office related) neither does UK, China, Taiwan. Italy , UAE and saudi are all mono religious countries with over 80% one religion, your comparison does not make sense. You gained representation? So with your representation why are Christians still being killed? You've just highlighted the hypocrisy battling Nigeria. You would rather have someone from your religion that is an inefficient, clueless representation with bad results than to try something else......Yet you still think Buhari na your problem, no pal your problem na your mind!

Acidosis:
I hope you will maintain the same position when a Northern candidate decides to choose a Northern VP?

Na like this una foolishness dey start.


Do not destroy your brain and thinking faculty on the altar of Tinubu's presidential ambition. Your kids will mock you.

Like I said before, what have we gained from having a Muslim president and Christian VP? What did we gain from having a Christian president and a Muslim VP? Sensible countries are busy choosing their leaders based on competency but you sheep keep focusing on tribe and religion, WAKE UP!

Toks2008:
Stop this pettiness and think with your brain.

We fvkng know all you wrote but any logical person will condemn in strong terms a Muslim Muslim ticket or a Christian Christian ticket.

I hate it when people lose their brains in the bid to support their choice.

You can still go ahead and support him but be reasonable to condemn the obvious.

The executive arm have had a balanced representation of our multi religious group in a country where we have a balanced number of Christians and Muslims.

Only a clueless, foolish and desperate candidate will do what Tinubu just did.

He has shown that he does not care about oneness, equity and fairness... All he cares about is his ambition and will desperately do whatever it takes to get there.

Think guy think

What has that balanced representation done for you for the past 7 years? If a Muslim/Christian ticket brought about so much violence and the Christian/Muslim ticket before that brought about so much despair, perhaps it is high time to abandon this illogical religious rhetoric and try a new approach.

What's the worst that can happen? More violence, more despair? In other words , maintaining the status quo, see say una don box una sef into tight corner . Tinubu has done the calculation, a Northern Muslim VP is the only way to compete with atiku in the North and that is all that matters because we all know that is where the game starts and ends!

I ran all sorts of permutations from the previous 2 presidential elections, the game will be won in the North. The person that secures the largest percentage in the North will most likely be the next president. In light of this, only a mad person would suggest Tinubu going for a Northern Christian......I would have loved him to go for someone younger but this is game of thrones, the enemy of your enemy is a friend, he just placed a checkmate on Atiku in the North, as long as SW people do their part, you guys are looking at the next president of Nigeria!

richmanrichard:
man u spent over 100mil on pogba alone and he just walked out for free.man u bought Maguire at over 70mil+; a player whom is not worth over 25mil,wan bissaka was bought for over 50mil& and he can't even cross a ball to save his life.matic n mata was bought over 50mil &they just went for free without man u getting a penny .they just overpaid for sancho and the young man is lost already and looks devalued already.should I continue? Man utd is the club that buys players at the most over bloated prize and the players looses value in just a season or 2.

You're making my point for me, all that you've just listed is the same way Chelsea spent money and hardly got anything in return, you want us to continue the same wasteful spending? man U bought all those players and didn't win shit, WHO HAVE THEY BOUGHT THIS SEASON? I repeat unless the owner is a madman or carefree person, the era of wasteful spending is over!

richmanrichard:
at least Chelsea still gets players cheaper than many big clubs like man u,man city,PSG,barca n real; so that's no excuse.Boehly has all the signs of Wenger(stingyness) written on his face. The future with that man& his other co owners are not bright atall

Cheaper? Lukaku, Werner, Kai was cheap? LMAO....guy go sleep! You've been spoiled by oil money, welcome back to reality, na only mad/carefree man fit spend the way Abrahamovic dey spend, 60 million and above, turn to 10 million or less(LUKAKU, TORRES, SHEVSHENKO), NO BE JUJU BE THAT?

richmanrichard:
nobody is saying that sterling is bad.what we are saying is that he is not the priority player or most important signing that Chelsea should be making now.its not what Chelsea need most now.

It doesn't matter what Chelsea needs the most, what matters is what we can get.....Hope say una dey study the gtransfer market, when it comes to Chelsea if e never pass 70 million, nobody wants to sell to us. So let's celebrate the little we get and hope by the time the transfer market closes, Father Boehly comes through

crazygod:
Who says Tinubu is seventy? If Tinubu is seventy then I came to this world today.

If you can prove otherwise, I welcome your analysis, stick to facts o, none of those sentimental crap

crazygod:
Get away with your distorted concocted lies. You think say na Mumu like you dey this forum? We all know how Tinubu asked Abacha for a position and how he wanted to be a civilian administrator of Lagos state. Fast forward to today, as a young man, na old quarter to die politicians you want to take over the affairs of this country. How evil can you be sef.

Who is the young man candidate that you support? Obi in his 60s, Tinubu and Atiku in their 70s, it's high time una drop this ageism angle and focus on actual campaign points......Na why the old people continue to rule because you youngins are too one dimensional. Leave the age, tribe, religion, tackle them on real issues like unemployment, security etc.

Africa is my motherland, Nigeria is my country o, Nigeria is my country o......E no go better for the person wey talk say there's nothing new under the sun

fkj950ax:
You actually have issues. Instead of talking on points you resort to abuse and bullying to cover your lack of ability to have a form of intelligent conversation with strangers.
This conversation has never been about gun violence, you are just a small time cyber bully learning the trade. Everyone has asked you simple questions, and all you do is resort to insults, abuse, trolling and other despicable behaviors.
Like I said before, it's not a pissing contest, I don't want to win anything.

What conversation? You jumped out of nowhere to reply to my comment......So you mean you responded to a comment without comprehending what it was about? Dude you're funny, take it as a lesson in life, LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP! Your bullying context would have mede sense if I was the one that went after you but that's not the case.

Humble thyself, life no hard at all, you could have saved yourself lots of time and headache if you just RELAX, BREATHE & REFLECT! In the end, I've passed my message across and I've expressed myself eloquently, the rest of your issues can be discussed with your therapist.....PEACE!

maasoap:
Well, you can write long story as much as you want, the truth remains that other developed countries with gun restrictions have significant lower gun violence than USA.
The same way that guns restriction law will take away guns from the law abiding citizens is also the same way guns will be taken away from the criminals.

Name one country that had a severe gun violence problem and solved it by removing guns.....Just one! Una go dey compare apples and oranges dey form Aristotle

fkj950ax:
You are just all over the place, and it’s so confusing. My points have been consistent.

Most recent mass shooting have been done by people who do not fit the narrative you are pushing (drug, mental illness, black Americans, hood, illegal guns, male domestication, family values, etc).

Other countries have restricted guns via ban or stringent measures and the results have been zero or drastic mass shooting incidents.

The OP is about a mass shooting incident, so let’s stay out of gun violence.

Sorry we are not on the same page, I am telling you again go back to my comment that your responded to, if it was about mass shooting then fine you win but if it is about overall gun violence then admit your screw up and move along.....I hate stubborn people!

maasoap:
Stringent gun control measures will take most of the guns off the streets whether acquired legally or illegally

That's nonsense!

fkj950ax:
It's not a pissing contest, so I don't care if you accept defeat or you don't. The truth is nobody, but yourself truly cares if you emerge victor or vanquish in arguing in a public space. Nobody is challenging you to anything, or asking you to an argument or debate. And honestly, this mindset is not something that I want to keep up in public discourse.
How many mass shooting has been linked to this narrative if you look into that sensitive data of yours. "By taking guns away do you think the criminals, the gangsters etc will be at a disadvantage or advantage? Remember over 80% of the guns in the hood comes from illegal sales".
There is ALMOST NO mass shooting linked to criminals or gangsters or "hood" as you put it. This is where you are conflating the discussion, and echoing the talking points of gun advocates.
If you do have access to these spurious sensitive data, then finding countries where gun restrictions and/or ban worked should be easy for you, but what do I know?

This is about overall gun violence not just mass shooting, man you're annoying .....You love cherrypicking your points don't you? Take a look at what you responded to and tell me if I was referring to mass shootings or overall gun violence, FA RA BURUKU BA LE!

Because criminals don't respect laws. The guns on the streets with no serial numbers are cheaper than buying a phone. The reason most Americans will not give up their guns is simple, when these criminals show up to rob you at home, at your car, office etc, you don't have to wait for police to come, you can defend yourself from those mofos.

Restricting gun laws only accomplsihes one thing, the criminals have weapons and the law abiding citizens do not. America needs to pay more attention to drug supply, mental illness and the decline of the traditional family. These kids are growing up with hate and extremist ideas, life is no longer precious, death is seen as bravery......SMH!

In the end understanding lo matter.....I'm not here for your approval, I said what I said , take it or leave it.....PEACE!