₦airaland Forum

CheapHomes1:
How is Tinubu the path to the least chaos?

This movie has played before, remember GEJ? Very humble nice guy, he believed cuddling with the North would win him some favors but they chewed and spat him out! Obi without the backing of a large political party will be like suya with plenty of pepper.....Delicious!

anungangampu:
Well, It all looks like Tinubu is powerful because of his influence in Lagos and APC. When he faces the people and not his political hype men can he still be that powerful?
By the way, we are talking about 4yrs not just 1year of winning election. Won't his health be worse in 4yrs or possible 8yrs time.

Like i said earlier, how can we trust a man who kept sucking from his state purse consistently for 15yrs now and never moved an inch away from it. How can we trust a man who made sure his wife, daughter and son are occupying position his people can possible qualify for.

I can't trust such man with Nigeria. He will simply turn everything to a family business and want to milk the country for another decade.

Ask yourself, are you God? I seem to remember we said the same thing about Buhari, even rumors of his death and cloning flourished online and here on Nairaland. Furthermore, are you not being snetimental? What husband/father would have the network and sway of Tinubu and not want the best for his wife and children? You wey dey type all holy holy, if your dad was Dangote would you be content stuck in a cubicle or would you want a title befitting of your relationship?

Let's leave sentiments aside, the choice is between 3 candidates, I emphatically REFUSE to vote for Atiku hence I only have two candidates to consider, perhaps in a time and world where Nigeria was stable someone like Obi could govern but this Nigeria, this one wey we dey see so requires a MAD MAN! It requires someone tht is feared by both friends and enemies. See I'm not delusional to think one man can fix Nigeria or one man can turn one naira to one dollar but I am very confident in the caliber of people Tinubu can bring into government. I am very confident that this man can open up the economy in ways we can only imagine.

For all the criticism about chopping from Lagos State for 15 years, what was Lagos before? Who had the vision to turn wasteland into a vibrant city? Who had the vision to make the state self sufficient? Even the Obi that many keep shouting was found with offshore accounts and more after he left his position as governor. I'm not looking for a saint, I'm looking for someone that will get down and dirty, someone that would remove the roadblocks that has crippled the Nigerian economy.....CHOP MAKE I CHOP.....THIS IS THE MOTTO!

CheapHomes1:
So who is that person?

Whether we like it or not, we have been presented with 3 bad choices, out of all of them I would pick Tinubu not because he's a saint but because he's the path to the least chaos. Obi is a good guy but good guys don't last in Nigeria.

anungangampu:
Well, OBI is young, have the stamina and intelligence. Obi left politics and have nothing to do with trifling with his state account after his tenure. Tinubu tenure ended in 2007 but he has held tight to the purse of Lagos state and have been amassing wealth from the state since years now.

They have nothing in common

How does that help him with managing a country as troublesome as Nigeria. The argument was that Tinubu's experience in Lagos is not the same as tackling Nigeria. So how does a man that has only governed Anambra be more equipped to tackle the demon called Nigeria? Unless you are saying age trumps all other attributes?

When it comes to intelligence, Obi can only wish he has the mental and emotional capacity of Jagaban, experience comes with age and years of dealing with numerous politicians with high egos. Someone mentioned security and I think this should be a major focus, if the cabals in the North could frustrate GEJ a man that gave them everything, why wouldn't they frustrate someone like Obi with even less structure and experience with our Northern neighbors?

See anyone that believes one man can change Nigeria is obviously delusional, we need a president that can play dirty and at the same time open up the economy with investments and international support, we need a president respected across political parties and structures. We need someone that they won't be frustrated by the Legislative branch of governemnt, unless you're banking on most members of the Legislative to decamp to Labor party or perhaps Obi would join PDP again after winning?

anungangampu:
He is not mentally prepared to deliver any of those things he did in the past.
Nigeria is not Lagos. A huge time in his government will be spent curbing insecurity and chasing corruption
We should not be carried away by any of his achievements in Lagos. Lagos alone has the power of 26 states in Nigeria alone.

He should worry about his health and you stop selling your future.

You have successfully killed the other candidates as well . For Obi, Anambra is not Nigeria, even worse it does not have the same weight as Lagos hence it would be way over his head. For Atiku, it is a matter of principle, he's older than Tinubu, a Northerner which would mean 12 years of continous Northern rule and a person must be exponentially bad if the likes of Obasanjo made sure he had no chance of contesting.

When we criticize or argue, let's make sure we do so objectively, if this was an advanced country, your points basically means none of the candidates are qualified which renders your premise illogical!

jmoore:
So if a baby is put into an incubator, it means the baby is part of an incubator?


King of olodo!!

Here's your logic: An embryo/fetus equals a fully formed baby......OLODO

Since 97% of all abortions occur before 24 weeks of gestation. Your analysis would have been more applicable if you said you put a 3-23 weeks old fetus into an incubator and expect it to produce a fully grown healthy baby....Your mumu never do? Stop exposing your ignorance!

You dey craze!

Like everything else on Nairaland, the main topic is overshadowed by bigots, tribalistic bickering and child like behaviors.....Spits

jmoore:
You are an epitome of an ignoramus.

DNA of a baby in the womb is different from the DNA of the mother.

Wickedness of supporting murder has beclouded your reasoning. No education will enlighten you on this until your evil heart is delivered

Can the embryo survive without the woman? Ori e ti gbale(Your head don knack ground)!

jmoore:
Miscarriage is not deliberate, abortion is deliberate.


Common sense 101!!!

Stay away from unprotected sex if you cannot afford a condom.

The baby in the womb is not part of a woman's body. It is a different being. You skilled biology classes?

How many orphanages have rejected babies?

You keep asking silly questions!!!

You're not making sense, how can you tell if a miscarriage is deliberate or not? Even leading experts in the health field acknowledges that miscarriage can occur due to many reasons and at times it is no fault of the woman but you being the Sherlock Holmes of pregnancy believe it is deliberate? Put down that weed bruh!

The baby in the womb is not part of a woman's body? COME AGAIN? PARDON? OLODO

jmoore:
Despite the laws against terrorism, has terrorism stop?

Despite the laws against armed robbery, has armed robbery stop?

Abortion is murder!!


I reiterate, if you don't want a child, stay away from unprotected sex.

Condom is cheaper than abortion!!!!

Apples to oranges, terrorism, armed robbery affects others, you are comparing it to something that affects the woman's body, HER BODY! You are still not answering my question, what happens when women are forced to carry a pregnancy and then they deliver the child then turn around not wanting anything to do with it, is the government foing to force those women to raise the babies or would the orphanage continue to get over populated with little to no funding?

How many donations have you made to the orphange? Have you adopted any child or are you still a child yourself? You keep shouting abortion is murder, I just agve you ways in which an abortion won't even look like an abortion. Is your government going to start prosecuting women for miscarriages? DON'T BE SILLY!

jmoore:
There are many orphanage homes in the country.

Secondly, if you cannot afford condom, you have no business with sex. Abortion is not part of family planning.

When last have you visited an orphanage? I can bet my last kobo that donating to the orphanage is an after thought for you. There's one thing that is clear, you can't force anyone to raise a child and if people kept dumping newborns at the orphanage, even Nigerian government will start pleading for mercy.

When a country makes safe abortion unlawful guess what happens? Women turn to quacks and chemicals for abortion. The law might ban abortion but it says nothing about drinking a bottle of gin for 3 night straight, it says nothing about smoking heavily or over stressing to the point of miscarriage......THINK AM WELL, if women truly wanted to abort, there's nothing any law can do about it!

jmoore:
Abortion is murder

Yet when the lady or guy begs for money online to feed his or her children, you and your kind would either ignore or make jest of them. which is better dying as an embryo or coming to this world only to die of hunger/poverty?

TheGoodJoe:
The point is previously, Tinubu stated that he attended primary and secondary Schools. Swore an oath on it. Now the story is changing. That is perjury and a big crime to allow him contest for President.

Gerrit?

In 1999 forms were submitted in error, he admitted the mistake and corrected it. In 2003 the correction was allowed and the court threw out Gani's case on the same issue. So here we are in 2022 and you believe a case of perjury can be made? Thank God say you no be lawyer, your clients for don wipe you cord for neck

TheGoodJoe:


Story. That is like telling your company to go and prove that you went to a particular school. From the statement from Chicago State University, it is up to the person to get the documents. INEC can not compel the school to give them proof of the previous admission.

Either Tinubu brings it out or he is hiding something.

Unfortunately for you, the Nigerian Constitution only requires evidence of school cert or above for presidential candiadates, a university degree is certainly above school cert hence INEC does not have a choice but to accept.

PaChukwudi44:
Perjury was committed in the forms filled in 99 not the recent ones

Yet he was allowed to contest in 2003 and Gani's case was thrown out twice for the same thing. Goodluck finding a competent court to entertain such a silly case

PaChukwudi44:
Lol quit exposing your ignorance in a public forum like this.

Those documents must be signed by the candidates under oath before submission to INEC

You're the dumbass that can't read, the case was already thrown out under Gani, what exactly are you accusing him of now? Guy left the controversial part blank, you can't perjure when you intentionally left something blank, what part of this don't you understand professor? Stick to bb9ja, clearly this concept is too much for you to grasp!

Brendaniel:
I will use my vote like you said and encourage others to do the same, we can't have a lagbaja as president...

That's the spirit!

Miracle2020:
Is he above the law. Ooh my God! I missed Abacha.
When Obasanjo was feeling like king Kong Abacha show him that he is not above the law.
I wish buhari have abacha mind.

Which law did he break? Surely you're not thinking something from 1999-2003 will land him in jail in 2022.....No be juju be that?

Simplythebest:
How much are u buying gas am sure u are buying it N200 and others sre buying it at N800 and N900 respectively. Continue

Me sef wey dey yankee dey buy fuel at 250% more than its usual cost, I'm sure na Buhari cause am too.....That Buhari's badluck dey reach everywhere.....MAD O

PaChukwudi44:
The case of perjury has never been tested in court

Perjury of what? Of his INEC forms from 1999 or 2003? The only way he would have perjured himself is if he actually filled out primary and secondary schools on the INEC forms. How would the case go? Your lordship, Mr. Tinubu said he went to primary and secondary schools on his 1999 forms but left it blank in 2022 Mumu case!

Miracle2020:
I don't need to educate you. Just eat your crumbs fast fast before your master go to prison.

You believe Tinubu dey go prison, damn son that cheap weed don finally finish you

jamace:
Legally, Tinubu is been taken on based on his presidential interest form with INEC which states that Tinubu did not attend Primary and Secondary schools.The one done in Lagos State, was for state level. We are talking about Tinubu documents at national level. You gerrit?

Local, state and national, na INEC dey conduct elections. The issue was already cleared by INEC in 2003 hence any further attempt now is a fool's errand. You gerrit?

Miracle2020:
the other case was about his certificate(eligibility)
This case now is perjury( swearing on false information)

You don't know what you're talking about!

Brainbusting:
Please may I know why they can't disclose them but can disclose his University degree.




I write business plans and proposals for people at a very affordable rate

List of graduates is public knowledge but educational and professional history is subjected to privacy regulations. E.g. The school publishes list of graduates each year but cannot disclose where the students attended previously or their grades.

PaChukwudi44:
Bros did Tinubu commit perjury? Did he attend the primary and secondary schools he declared under oath in 1999? That is the bone of contention not Chicago certificate

Which bone of contention? Case that was already thrown out twice. Haven't you heard of double jeopardy in law? This one would be triple jeopardy, I suggest una stop wasting time with sentiments and attack him based on health and his economic plans rather than certificates and religion.

Brendaniel:
And as a concerned Nigerian citizen and voter I want to know because it is my right to know who wants to become my president, it is like obama telling americans that he cannot disclose his primary or secondary school details, you guys supporting this rubbish are part of the problems of this country, where in the world can this happen, please show me any country in the world this has happened?

Well you are free to do your research and pursue it legally, I'm only speaking on practicability and not what ifs and buts. Point of correction, it is not your right to know, the Nigerian Constitution has not given you such rights, even in the USA there are some things hidden to the public, only those vigilant enough to research actually gets to know 50% of what truly goes on. So either do your research or forget about it, let your vote do the talking!

Miracle2020:
he is not eligible to contest when he give two different information. As a governor he said he attained primary and secondary school in Ibadan, now as a president he said he didn't attend primary and secondary school.
He signed and sworn on the information given to inec in 1998, he also swear and signed the information given in 2022. That is perjury.
Therefore tinubu should be a prisoner not a president.

The problem here is that legally he cannot be prosecuted for a case that has already been thrown out so what would be INEC's justification? Remove sentiments and speak legally, when the court already declared him innocent what else can you argue?

Brendaniel:
I am not asking for his certificates I'm asking for the names of the school, he said he dropped out of secondary school, what is the name of the secondary school?

Well he has chosen not to disclose that, person said he did not attend you're saying he dropped out. All that matters is what is on INEC form. He left it blank, BLANK!

Brendaniel:
The questions I'm even asking are :

1. What is the name of Tinubu's primary and secondary school? at least he attended one even if he dropped out, kindly tell us the names...

2. He claimed he was born in 1952, how come his life biography doesn't start from 1952, it is as if his life started from the 1970's, what is he hiding about his childhood?

Conclusion
We are dealing with Lagbaja, Tinubu is Lagbaja aka emilokan, even if presents a Phd certificate, his childhood education and biography remains questionable.

Be Sincere
If you own a company and such a worker comes with such profile would you give him a job and yet he wants to be the number 1 citizen of Nigeria, Nigerians deserve to know every person who is seeking to be employed to become president so that we will not repeat the same mistake we are facing right now because we did not know him very well...

What business would ask for your primary school? The higher your credentials the less the lower education certificates matter. I have a Ph.D and you will never see secondary/high school on my Resume/CV. Make una leave sentiments, the man said he did not attend primary and secondary schools, so be it!

Here are the requirements to contest for president in Nigeria:

Eligibility
They are a citizen of Nigeria by birth;
They have attained the age of 35 years;
They are a member of a political party and is sponsored by that political party;
They have been educated up to at least School Certificate level or its equivalent.

As long as Tinubu can prove that he has a university degree, he is fully eligible to contest, make we leave story for the gods!

ufotunang:
Nawaoooo. And Nigerians that have certificate will still vote for this type of politcians that do not have certificate.. even they do not have primary and secondary school certificate... nawaoooo

We voted for person with Ph.D, he behaved like person wey no go secondary school, we voted for person wey no go school, he proved to us that truly he no go school, so what's the difference? Other countries dey debate about economic and fiscal plans yet Nigerians dey argue over certificates and religion......No be juju be that?

addictiv:
1. First go and find out what the UK law defines as exploitation.
2. In the letter ekweremadu only stated David is going for a private medical treatment not to donate his kidney. He didn't fully disclose the reason for his travel which already makes him look culpable in the eyes of the law.

Update.. I just saw another letter online where he said David was going to donate his kidney. However he also stated that he will be providing funding for the expenses. Which makes him guilty of this charge....
Conspiracy to arrange and/or facilitate the travel of another person with a view to exploitation

Like I said earlier, if the high commission approved his request via the letter, then it is also culpable. One thing I know about UK and US government is that rather than embarrass themselves they would issue a ruling that removes such possibility. There's no way you can exploit someone that offered a product or service willingly, you have to prove that the victim did not know of the procedure and was coerced, a good lawyer would have the case thrown out. The biggest issue is the age, once that is resolved, it becomes a more defensible case.