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yMcy56:Historically, the market dips about this time for a good number of stocks. Anything can be reckoned as news just so that the drivers can force the market into a dip after a spike to take profits and reposition for dividends. I watch out for volume price dissociation. I sold UBA at 32.80 and bought it back at 29.35. This strategy however can be risky because the price can dip and climb so quickly making re-entry at a cheaper price impossible. For UBA I was prepared to exit at N32.80 completely and only buy back if it dipped after hitting resistance. Fortunately, I bought back taking some profits and repositioned. |
Deadlytruth:How is it painful? If there were no prospects of appreciation so who would you sell to? Who buys with the hope of losing? Rather it’s the beauty of the market. Profit is profit. Any complaints beyond profit is…. DD with understanding keeps one on track to minimize losses. When in doubt ask. “Onye ajuju a na efu uzo” |
To all of us, Those who give us correct advice Those who add drama Those who make as cautious Those who make us ![]() Those are ![]() Those we would like to swear for but still hold our peace. To you all that make me look forward to visiting this forum every day HAPPY NEW YEAR. May we all be profitable beyond our expectations. May we all have the peace and health to enjoy it in Jesus Name. Amen. Locosorry to hear of your misfortune. We all owe all we have to God from the tiniest to the largest . God will replenish all and add to overflowing. |
If it’s good for Fidelity ,it’s good for the banks. UBA!!!! |
KayOn1:Thank you. UPL is not a growth stock. . Common Sense Strategy |
KayOn1:EPS for 6 months =0.80 X2 for 1 year =1.60 X4 for target =1.60 x4 = 6.40 Dividend payment is poor so apply 75% =6.40 x 75% = N4.80 Target is N4.80 if they continue to do well. However range is N4.80 -N6.40. Dividends may take awhile to climb. However to maintain that price, they must declare at least 20k dividends. Due diligence as always. |
yMcy56:For Jaiz, there’s only one way out. I believe the clue is in the news already. |
My Common sense target for GTCO Best quarter organic EPS 3.1 3.1x 4 x 4 = N49.60 |
The FBHN trajectory makes common sense only through a bonus issuance. May be a dividend of N1.50 and a 1:4 bonus in which case a price target of N30.00-N32.00 would make sense. Please this is not an investment advice. Hopefully an intelligent guess. |
Heishere:0.12 is for a quarter….use best quarter as earlier discussed on the premise that growth stocks are meant to grow 4 quarters = 1 year =0.48 X4 of the estimate FY i.e 0.48 =1.92 |
aj8:I sold NNFM today at 39.60. Profit 103%. Best to sell when within target. Stick to your plan unless it’s now part of a new plan. Recall how we started. See strategy below. Bought at N19.50
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aj8:My common sense target for TIP is N1.92. Range N1.92-N2.40. Bought some on Friday @ N1.01 . Will buy more only below this price.
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kalkah:For growth stocks I use eps x4 as target. I buy only when the price is significantly below this. However I calculate the estimated FY eps on the best quarter x 4 . E.g TIP . Buying only if the future looks bright. |
robobo:The average of the last 2 dividends x 10 comes very close to the peak price before the declaration of new dividends in anticipation that the new year's end should at least meet the previous year’s yield if the EPS has been surpassed or met. This is true for most of the banks that average a yield of 10% assuming the shares were bought just before the declaration at the peak price before declaration. That price should climb after the declaration to reflect the yield and prospects of the stock. For example, Zenith Bank pays about N3.50 on average which x 10 gives say N35.00. This price would hover about this price till new prospects emerge, then the climb. Notice also the price matches the last organic EPS x 4 ( adjust without the variations induced by the foreign exchange valuations). Same for UBA, GTCO, etc. You can cross-check, and notice they would roughly come within a Neighboring range of x4 eps-x5 eps or x10 dividends. The companies however with huge FDI yields average about 5% so best to use dividends x 20 approximately…. e.g. Breweries, Oil and gas, conglomerates, MTN, Airtel, etc. I only buy these stocks for price appreciation once the price shows it’s well below a price commensurate with a 5% yield e.g. NB at current price and sell off once it attains dividends x20. Holding such a stock till dividends would mean you have settled for a yield of about 5%. In other words to put it simply… if sentiments anticipate a 5% yield meaning that those invested in the stock are happy with a 5% yield, then the price would reflect 5% but the earliest investors probably got the stocks at a premium. earning far more than the new investors e.g. Seplat. , NB, Guinness, etc. since they bought at prices far much lower in the past. So check the average yield in the sector. That should help. But 10% for banks. (EPS X4 or dividends x 10 most times reflects the target price before new EPS or dividends) . Would be happy to apply the calculations on the next report of a company with a good yield so you appreciate it better. Hope this clarifies it a bit better. |
kalkah:My Common Sense entry point : Buy if price of stock is well below 80% of 4xEPS FY estimates to guarantee at least above 20% gain in the investment . The 4x EPS FY will become your target price and the range if still strong could be 4xEPS-5x EPS. provided the company has good Dividend payment history within the sector. If the Dividend payment is very poor, aim at 75% 0f 4xEPS as target price meaning you would have to enter even lower ( that’s at least below 80% of this target). Review targets as new EPS come in. Use only EPS that’s organic ( I.e based on pure corporate sweat). REMEMBER TO INJECT DUE DILIGENCE IN EVERY PICK ESPECIALLY WHEN CURRENT PRICE IS ABOVE 4 X EPS. Consider these hypothetical examples below: 1. A company released Q2 half year results at say N5.5 but is currently sell at N18.00 . Dividend payment is adjudged good. My target would be N44 and range N44-N55. I would buy. 2. A company with a full year results EPS of N1.05 currently selling at N1.00 should rally quickly to N4.00 if with good or improving fundamentals . I would buy and target exit at N4.00 except new EPS suggest otherwise. 3. A company with current price at N60.00 but EPS of N2.00 is not a buy for me as 4x EPS is only N8.00 . It remained however good for those who bought it earlier at less than N8.00 . REMEMBER all strategies were derived at a point in time. This works for me and keeps my losses to a minimum. |
aj8:NNFM target is close. Will offload once it attains N40.00 . A price above N40.00 though possible , will not influence my holding on to the stock. I will only consider re-entry if EPS for Q3 is above N8.00 but will re-enter only if price drops below N25.00. |
BabsO2:Revenue will increase but EPS will decrease for a few years and consequently, price will fall. FBN's current price rise indicates the most likely trend to come ( you can refer to my last post on this). Many big banks could issue bonuses as part of their strategy and small banks merge with big banks. |
yMcy56:The only thing that can explain a FBNH price beyond N20.00 is a bonus. Can’t see them paying N2.00 dividend. And, even if the are to pay a dividend of say N2.00, the information will not be known yet by big money before the end of Q4.However, the need to widen the base may have already been raised about now. But I could be wrong. Probably makes a lot of sense for the big banks and a bellwether of what is to come. I am only speculating. |
essentialone:Dividends are paid from net income ( Profit after tax). Can’t really see how this could be of help. It’s not the company buying back but directors/ insiders trading. I think the surge in insider interest indicates an improvement in UBA’s dividend policy. The market has already priced in a dividend of N2.00. For any insiders transaction to be rational, it should outdo every other options currently available to the insider, which I believe is about average of 15%. Based on the foregoing, I feel the company may well pay minimum of N2.50 |
What is happening!!!
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Locotrader:Wait for the next volume price dissociation to buy. |
A small homework away from Biology. The intentions of the big traders or smart money are embedded in large volumes and the immediate follow through volumes . Note the prices circled in blue . You will discover something very fascinating. Below is the chart of recent historical volumes of UBA. 10 marks. ![]()
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yMcy56:Peruse Note 9 of UBA Q3 |
yMcy56:Yes Mer+y, but remember that the banks that have significant offshore presence i.e do banking also abroad, earn foreign income/interest and the conversion of such would boost the income profile. Moreover it would equally buoy the prospects of sustainability in these hard times. That’s my take. |
vacanci:Nope. But I find the mathematics in all this quite intriguing. |
BabsO2:To understand what’s happening you need to peruse UBA’S report. Check Note 5. Expect even more of such for FBN |
yMcy56:UBA and FBN have significant offshore presence and hence earn foreign exchange via interest rates abroad. FBN likely to outpace UBA’S foreign exchange earnings by about 20%. |
Streetinvestor2:Is the market funny or does it just respond to anything new…called NEWS. |
aj8:Off loaded Betaglass. Targets reached. Beta glass Likely to drop back to N44.00-N48.00 range. I bought NNFM today @19.95 . Target N40.00. UBA reappraised since considerable potential upside.New target is N24.00-N31.00. Holding on. |
Other Common sense targets are as follows UAC….N16.00 CUSTODIAN…N10.00 LINKAGE……….N1.00 WEMA……………N8.00 Based on my common sense strategy. Please do your due diligence. This is not an investment advice |
My common sense target for NNFM is N40.00
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My common sense price target for UBA N24.00-N31.00 Dividend estimate N2.00-N2.50 Based on my common sense strategy. Do kindly do all Due Diligence. This is not an Investment Advice
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