₦airaland Forum

ESDKING:
Clap for them for parading necked men. This is laudable.
Its only through proper education that this kind of mentality would be eliminated from blacks ,if not Africans are going no where. Tell me the difficult thing in sending then to police station ?

We Africans are a bit confused right now. Most of us. The same punishment would have been meted out 100 years ago. So despite modernity, we still instinctively do the African thing.
For example:

Instead of going to see Babalawo/Dibia/Orbo like those days, we go & see prophetess/prophet/Alfa. For the same purpose. Babalawo only now discreetly these days.

After paying bride price, we still go and do church marriage & court marriage.

We arrest someone with police but might still use thugs to intimidate him in addition.

We go to hospital for treatment, but still seek a native healer alongside. Very common in bone fracture & stroke patients.
The list goes on.

We're at crossroads really.

highness25:
this gal get husband so?

Maybe this is come and get me pose. Go marry her na.

PenisCaP:
I love her so much very nice and humble gal.

[s]If i hav my way i would bleep her silly and plant a foetus inside.
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Pls im i day dreaming

Very humble. Especially for a Warri bred babe.

One of the few Nollywood ladies I really like.

Your dream can come true. If you "dream" nicely & respectfully. With good intentions. No dream is too big.

Before nko?

You have insisted on playing with an impotent actor.

RIP.

Yuneehk:
I never knew being a galvrend is now a job If anyone sees such vacancies please let me know so I can apply

One of the biggest jobs in 9ja. It employs millions of 9ja ladies, full or part-time. It is the most popular job among female students. Not part-time shop checkout babe or baby-sitter like in many countries. Salaries can be up to 250k, trips to Dubai, South Africa, a car & others come as perks. etc. Common in Lekki & Abuja.

The babe is distributing wealth. Something our elite refuse to do.

When parents cried out, the then Principal appeared around 23 February to blame the situation on “enemies of the school”, denying that “there is no epidemic, epidemic is when three-quarters of the population has died”.


If true, we are in trouble in Nigeria. Principal of a top high school saying this.

Around the same day, a Vice-Principal reportedly complained: “we are looking after 2,800 students and we are being crucified because two die”. From various levels of the Management of QC then, there was clear evidence of reckless disregard for the young lives in their care or worse.

And the Vice principal is an animal to say this. Can he/she afford to lose two own children? Sad.

mcquin:
Democracy and rule of law does not work for every country and person. A country where politicians use rule of law to scuttle the process. Since birds learnt fly without perching, hunters learnt to shoot without missing.

Well, we have a president treating anaemia abroad for 50 days.

True, it will not happen in a country where democracy works. Ours doesn't work yet.

The economy is in worse shape since 25 years. Some actually saw it, not told by grandparents.

It wasn't this bad when Buhari overthrew Shagari in 1983.

Are you now saying he should be overthrown now instead of following rule of law and decide if he stays beyond 2019?

We must consider if to jettison rule of law completely or let it gradually mature into something better.

There is enough incompetence to go round.

nkemdi89:
Women are strong o, they will struggle to get married, still struggle to remain in marriage,always impressing their oppressive husbands while they suffer depression.

See generaisation.

Do do you know the hell lots of men go through in the hands of the excess agbaya ladies about these days?

Not to mention the number of men unknowingly looking after kids their wives conceived fucking other men outside.

Oh sorry, the man is always to blame for any nonsense women do. Even a man with a small dick (as given by God) is to blame if his wife that banged half the town (unbeknown to him) before marriage now cheats.

Because this is the double-standard we see from Nairaland wannabe feminists ladies here.

Mr Adewale,

please of all the land/farmland you have advertised here, which is nearest to Ibadan? And how many kilometres is it from Ibadan? And the price per are?

Thanks.

As a black person, in some shops abroad, the security keep following you up and down.

CCTV doesn't cover some corners usually. And shoplifters are used to these things.

They focus on you so much that they totally miss their own people shoplifting.

One day I saw a lady hide something. Meanwhile I was bumping into the same security guy wherever I went. She smartly removed the bar code tag.

I told him "you have been following me so much that you didn't see that lady there hide something in her bag. It is not my business to tell you but just to let you know that the person you follow around may not be the shoplifter." He went and caught up with the lady before leaving the shop.

As a black person, because of what some few bad eggs have done before, you are carefully watched.

RIP.

Guys, is it only me who thinks this babe would be highly suited to quench another kind of "fire"?

peterpen:
Good one sir school this liars, imagine their fairy tale, have you forgotten so soon the version of oduduwa falling from heaven as the son of orisa(God)....stupid fairy tales, even kids know the truth..




One other thing boss, these people propagate lies via the internet with various blogs...I suggest you open a well detailed Website, (not just a useless blog) were these fact will be well documented with citations cos the lie is fast spreading.....


Imagine, we were having this argument the other day and someone said benin came from yoruba, i asked him how he knew, he said he googled it, after checking these sites it was found that all the authors were yoruba propagandist, The version on wikipedia have been adulterated times without numbers and people have tendecies to belive anything on wikipedia forgetting that peeps like them can edit it anytime, It will be awesome if people like you Go back and edit these things on wikipedia and make sure you disable editing by these yoruba peeps, i think there is a way to stop this people from adulterating these information's...

Thank you boss.

I have heard similar suggestions (website/book) over the years. But I'm a rather very busy person. I have also discussed it with an elderly relative who has written many books on Edo history/culture/tradition. Even film ideas because reading culture is dying fast. All are time and resource consuming. This is where our currently unemployed youths could come in with their IT savvy. The smaller the population of a tribe, the fewer the number who will be conversant with history. Or feel obliged to seek the truth and publicly defend it.

I have found myself up against many SW here over the years. With their many infantile versions of Oduduwa. But I'm not deterred because my position is simple and has been consistent. They can come in their hundreds. They all will just bring more ridiculous versions of history.

Exiled Prince Ekhaderhan of Benin wandering about 70 miles to Owo area first, and another roughly 70 miles to Ife is far more likely. Compared to using chain or teleporting from whatever hill. It even matches the current geographic reality.

Benin version is scientific, plausible & would pass scientific & historical scrutiny even 500 years from now. No magic in it.

You know with rampant inter-tribal marriages these days, many kids are growing up without much native language & history knowledge. I have nothing against such marriages.

The reason I find time to respond to attention seekers here is because many silent readers might believe them. Some people believe just about anything they read anywhere.

So the record has to be set straight. Otherwise I'd prefer not to dignify their fallacies.

HML to them.

Hope they won't send him to o fight the "technically defeated" Boko.

nzeobi:
Buhariandelrufai are of same in magnitude and direction.
Holier than thou team

If only they both had a direction.

They are both only scalar quantity.

Why NASS are far from being good at their job, we need to weigh the security report on Magu.

A person leading EFCC cannot be found glaringly wanting.

Is the content of the report true? If true is it weighty enough to make him not qualified to lead EFCC.

We should learn to be dispassionate and objective. Just because he is prosecuting some people they disagree politically with, even if rightly so, does not mean he can do no wrong.

The onus is also on him to prosecute your political idols if they have a case to answer. Not just your political enemies. Otherwise it would be a disservice to all of us.

shinarambo1:
We are the same people irrespective of dialect..it doesnt matter if we call ourselves ijebu, okun or ekiti or awori. Sameway someone from liverpool sees himself as English just like a manchunian, geordie or londoner.

e.g Derin Ologbenla, an ife warlord and prince fought for the liberation of the osemawe in ondo. In this expedition, he assembled other warlords from abeokuta, Owu, Origbo, Ijesha, Offa and Oyo. Oyo during his military reign had soldiers from all over the south western part of Nigeria. Queen Moremi was an Offa princess that got married to an Ooni. What does all these tell you? It tells me that...we are one people, speak the same language and we all love our amala and ewedu.... lol. We were conquering far away dynasties of dahomey and ashanti while your little kingdom of benin was busy flexing muscle with Owo town and awori pepper farmers in lagos island. Your little benin got nothing on us . As small as edo state is...what is the percentage of benin people in the state sef? i would really love to know

Odu-to-da-iwa WAS never a benin prince like you claimed. He is an 100% ife man. Oduduwa was an emissary from the community of Oke-Ora (Ora hills), the easternmost part of the Ife area. He descended from the hills on a chain, earning the oriki 'atewonro' meaning 'one who descends on a chain'. At that time, a Confederacy existed between the 13 communities of the valley of Ile-Ife, with each community or 'Elu' with its own Oba; Oba of Ijugbe, Oba of Ijio, Oba of Iwinrin etc.
When Oduduwa rose to be a prominent citizen of ancient Ife, he and his group are believed to have conquered most of the 13 component communities and deposed Obatala , subsequently evolving the palace structure with its effective centralized power. Going by the tribal records, he is commonly referred to as the first Ooni of Ife and progenitor of the legitimate kings of the Yoruba people. The forest the current ooni emerged from as part of his coronation rights was the oke-ora hills. Stop this benin nonsense of exiled prince. ko le werk. Ife was civilized years before benin. We schooled you in arts.

If not for civilization, your people would still be sending ife, the severed head of your late obas. lol.

Benin has no history without mentioning Yoruba, but the Yoruba history doesn't recognize Benin. The ancestors of the Oba of Benin were Yorubas. At the height of Benin Empire's glory, Yoruba was the official palace language!

Besides, Benin never had an empire until a Yoruba prince (oranmiyan) came to rule it. The Ogiso was a village chief, not an emperor! So show much respect to the Yorubas.

Finally, with respect to us being one people.
Ile-Ife is our Jerusalem, Mecca and Medina - spiritual home.
Oyo is our administrative home.
Ibadan is our military Headquarter.

Haters can hug a 5000kva transformer under an heavy rain

kind regards.


Ife Terracota head 1100 AD.

Hahahahahahaha!

Your satire is very funny indeed.

You know even KG or garri school kids won't be fooled by this fable.

They have long known that there is no Father Christmas from the North Pole.

With the level of education of SW people, still holding on to descending from a hill with chain, crossing the sea from Yemen or Israel, crossing the desert from Egypt/Sudan versions are really funny.

It used to be said by SW people that he descended from heaven with chain. Knowing how ridiculous that is, they quickly located a hill.

How did he ascend the hill previously from wherever? Using a teleporting machine like Dr Who?

Hahahahahaha. Na wa o.

Oduduwa don suffer. See versions. Some said he was running away from Arab invaders in Egypt and ran across the desert to the hamlet of Ife in the thick forest of all places. Na wa .
Now he was a messenger. What versions will come up next time? An omodo, a charcoal boy, a drummer boy or which?

The credible version is this: he was a Benin Prince from Benin. Well schooled in court etiquette, leadership and how to manage intrigues in the sophisticated Benin Ogiso palace. Remember there were over 33 Ogiso/Oba-godo before this time. More than enough to be fully established.

It was his gallant and impressive royal leadership personality that Benin crown princes learn from childhood that had the citizens of the little village of Ife eating from his palms easily.

No really established land welcomes a total stranger without an impressive army just like that.

Take for example: When Oranmiyan got to Benin, he never even set foot inside Benin. The powerful established aristocracy of Benin would not let him. The local lords had their own armies in the interregnum. He never reached the Ogiso palace.

It took 5 generations from Oranmiyan, precisely Oba Ewedo, to conquer the powerful local lords and their descendants. And access Benin City proper. Something recently displayed in a mock battle during coronation of Oba Ewuare II a few months ago.

So Yoruba owe Benin their monarchy.

The very many versions of Oduduwa from SW people shows that they are just making up versions as they go along. All very inconsistent.

Whereas Benin people have a consistent version. History lives & breaths in Benin. So tampering with it is virtually impossible.

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joey150:
lol..... What are you going on about.... Did you or did you not learn today that Roman Catholic church and Catholic church are one and the same?

I dont really want to go into the marriage ish.. I know Catholic priest are not allowed to marry. And obviously if you do not know Roman Catholic and Catholic are one and the same i find it difficult to believe any other thing Catholic related you have to tell me.

On the Anglican priests coming back to the church stull married, i will do my research and get back to you..

You reek of hate for the one true church of Christ.

Hate is not in my dictionary as such. What I cannot stand is ignorance, inability/refusal to learn on top

Anybody can claim anything. Even Boko (their practice) claim to be the only true version of their religion.

Fact is only God knows. You're not speaking from heaven with God right now. So all is assumption.

That you do not know the meaning of "Catholic" is clear. When people do not know things, they assume.

Obviously you have no proper Christian education. Just a churchgoer making assumptions like most people out there.

joey150:
this puts the matter to bed..it never really was the point of our argument to begin with..

It in no way means that the catholic and Anglican church are anything close by any stretch of the imagination to being alike.

Oh good.

With Google help you found out at last.

The sad thing is that while progressive Catholics would relish the opportunity to correct the schism of the 16th century, and bring as many as possible (like the married priests) back into the fold, you're still busy emphasizing man-made differences. No wonder Nigeria is so divided along every possible line.

Does it mean both Churches do not rely on the Bible, albeit with man-made doctrinal variations?

joey150:
Big sigh.

I am a catholic.. And the Catholic church is same as the Roman Catholic church.. I care less about Martin Luther. My point is he was excommunicated from the church and that the Anglican church(church of England) is very DIFFERNET from the Roman Catholic church..

Please stop arguing blindly.. You obviously know little about the subject.. And dont get me started on the marrying issue for priests.

Lol. I think you are one those blind Catholics. Narrow-minded and has no idea about history of the church. That former Anglican priests welcomed into Catholic priesthood remain married. How will you know? Young people of these days are allergic to knowledge.

Who cares about Martin Luther's excommunication by a corrupt indulgence selling church of that time?

You cannot boast of better grounding in Catholicism either through practice or formal theological education.
So shove your little knowledge.

Ebeleiscorupt:
Loser like you will always have an excuse.

Defending you Chicago mafia god is full time job. I hope he at least pays you up to minimum wage.

Eku ise o.

joey150:
No... That is absolutely wrong.

The anglican church never refer to them as the roman Catholic church.. They are two serperate entities with different ideologies.

Martin Luther was excommunicated from the catholic church then he went on to champion Protestantism.

You see while people fail easily.

Wrote the Holy Catholic Church, you wrote Roman Catholic Church. I guess without googgling you do not know what word " Catholic" means.
It obvious you know little about both churches. Even if you go to one of them
Anyone who recites Anglican prayer cannot say what you said.

I guess you do not know that Luther had the opportunity to recant his writings and theses in the Diet of Worms, right in the presence of one of the Pope's biggest backers, the German Holy Roman Emperor. But he did not. Because he did not believe his teachings contravened the Scripture.

Try to understand things properly first.

I guess you will also say there are no married Catholic priests. I know you will.

That this kind of question is being asked in the 21st century shows how religion has brought us retrogression.

Very sad.

bejeiodus:
Opposition politics is an anathema to many Nigerian politicians. Men like Tinubu ought to be respected for being in opposition for a decade and half despite the allure of mainstream politics.

Well, being in charge of Lagos helped him resist.
Both in and out of office, he made good money through Lagos State. The State has money comparatively.

I'd respect him more if he was from Osun or Ekiti, resisted OBJ that had Lagos allocation withheld & remained with one party.

joey150:
Church of England is the Anglican church

Anglican still does refer to itself as the holy Catholic Church.

Might sound strange to some. I thin it is about believing to be original.

Remember Martin Luther that paved the way for Protestantism, even before Anglican Church did not actually want to break way from Catholic church initially but to reform it.

GlorifiedTunde:
I'm beginning to feel there's a target at Pastors by the marine spirits.

Pastors better be guarded.

Marine spirits? Why not mountain spirits?

EgunMogaji:
Mark my words, this common ex con that should be in hiding will run for president in his lifetime.

The moral core of the average Nigerian has been compromised by poverty.

Mojaji, these things we see are just symptoms. 9ja was founded on a faulty foundation.
It is badly divided & polarised. Various sections do not see eye to eye on most matters.

Basically my tribe's thief is not worse than your tribe's thief & my villain doesn't deserve more condemnation than yours. That is the state of affairs now.

We now defend the indefensible if we perceive that somehow, a condemnation of one of ours is an attack on all of us. No place for objectivity.

But we're carrying on as if all is well. Anybody who mentions renegotiating Nigeria's foundation is quickly labelled Ipob. Never mind if he/she is a Berom or Tiv.

watered:
I see Ibori coming back to hold public office again. You know Nigeria is such a failed state that they celebrate thieves above men of integrity.
Imagine an ex-convict making public appearances with police escorts and without shame.

I SPIT ON NIGERIA

True.
Imagine there was to be a proper investigation of all adult Nigerians: corruption at work, sorting teachers/lecturers for grades or admission (in cash or in kind), contract inflation, bribing police, soldier, immigration, V.I.O, Road Safety, Omonile selling land many times, and other forms. 90% will go to jail. Fact.

So we're in a serious mess. I cannot really see the way forward the way Nigeria is constituted now.

Afonjas:
This is one of the hundreds of soldiers killed by boko haram daily but the Nigerian army won't tell you this unless their relations alert us the a soldier has fallen,
Nigerian army will be quick to post pictures of 1or 2 boko haram fallen but hide their own

We are losing lots of soldiers. But we rarely get any details from official sources. If not for mourning friends, colleagues & families.

I think some are just being quietly buried like chickens. To avoid embarrassment to FG.

No transparency in anything. Including so called recovered loot.

shinarambo1:
The obelisk (opa oranmiyan) confirms that he returned to ife. Ifa (the yoruba religion) backs it up too.

What proof have people got that oranmiyan left descedants in katunga(old oyo) or benin? For all we know, they could also be making claim to blood link just like arab kings to mohammed.

He who wears Oduduwa' s original crown is the greatest of the yoruba kings, and that is the 51st Ooni of ife...Oduduwa being the number 1 Ooni. A thousand Alaafin can't make a claim on Ade Aare (Oduduwa's original crown).
An ife prince from centuries ago till present would never bow to an Alaafin or Olowu or any other king in yoruba land. Fact...

Most yoruba towns founded years after the demise of oranmiyan e.g Iwo, Ikire, owo, ila-orangun, Awori, akure, Ado ekiti, aramoko ekiti, emure, ikole, ikere, Usi, kabba e.t.c just to mention a few were established by princes that left ife to build their own settlements...These towns all the way from kogi to lagos have also been distorting histories for years..according to the alaafin... lol

Benin...not so relevant to the history of yoruba. They are a minority tribe.

This is the main issue with many SW people. All they see is population size of a tribe in a country forced together by the British. A fact that was even used to hound GEJ in government.

You simply forget that until about 250 years ago, there was no uniform Yourba nation. You were seen as Egba, Awori, Ijebu, Owo, Oyo and so on. Only Oyo really reached its Zenith, with a considerable empire before Afonja betrayal. Forget about how the Ibadan & Owo came to repel the Jihadists. They were fighting for their own freedom too.

What you and other revisionists forget is that Benin had to give up its right over large former territories far & near effectively in 1897 (British invasion) and officially in 1914 in order for the British to restore the monarchy.

Benin is important to Yoruba for several reasons including:

(a) It gave Oduduwa to Ife. And Oduduwa is father of several Yoruba monarchs.

(2) It had territories in Eastern Yorubaland. Ondo/Ekiti. The boundary agreed between Aare Ona Kakanfo of Oyo empire & Iyase Epkenede of Benin Empire was at Otun (today in Northern Ekiti). Owo Royal Court culture & royal dressing is still reminiscent of Benin royal tradition. As it can also be observed in Olu of Warri palace in Delta and many other places.

(3) Esipka/Asipa & Prince Ado, both from Benin founded Lagos monarchy. It brought a sophisticated system of government and military culture. Lagos monarchy remained faithful to Benin until 1851 when the British removed Oba Kosoko. Even Oba Akintoye still confirmed his obligations to Oba of Benin to the British in 1853.

It is like saying that because Rome was initially a small farming settlement on the Tiber, it couldn't have influenced European history that much. Or because Italy is an average European power today, it couldn't have influenced world history in antiquity.

I have another example of SW people's obsession with minority having no relevance.

I have a minority tribe (Edo) friend who graduated first class from Nigeria's premier university. He works abroad now. Each time their white European colleagues want to understand the frequent crisis in Africa, they ask the minority guy. Because over the years, their European colleagues who care only about competence and skills, have come to appreciate his excellence in dissecting and analyzing African history & politics.

But behind his back, SW colleagues keep telling (showing backbiting prowess again) the Europeans that he's just from an ordinary minority tribe and therefore knows nothing. Perplexed Europeans were asking the minority guy why his countrymen are so weird to link ability to tribe.

Obviously they are jealous of him. Real life thing even here in Europe.