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Some preachers Na wa o.

gregyboy:
No i believe edo as a whole would make a great country i have stayed both in edo central and edo north they regard we benins as thier ancestral home, benin empire didnt archive greatness without them, those areas was were the oba drew his foot soldiers from, in the acient times we allowed them to have thier own autonomy
And thier people had a say in the governance of the ancient Kingdom.....
So there was no room for injustice
Edos are one we should be bothered about other Edoid tribes outside the shores of edo state like urhobo and co

I understand your position. But there is an undercurrent of people feeling Benin is dominating them.

It led to the state being called Edo. It should have been Benin. Because Edo was only central part of Benin City. Bendel came from Benin and Delta Provinces. Benin became Edo but Delta remains Delta.
It was to remove the impression that Oba is ruler over the whole state. It would imply that if called Benin State.

What people say about how they are related to Benin is irrelevant. Action matters most. Have you as Benin met a non Benin but Edo person who is a policeman or govt official in govt offices anywhere in Nigeria? 30 years back before state creation I heard Edo Central people boasting they will rather help an Hausa than assist a Benin person.

The Benins are very naive regarding this relationship. Others are ready to scheme us out of anything. But Benins have this attitude of their our people and act so. Others say so but act very differently.

The sooner Benins smell the coffee the better.
Go check Edo Central forums online. Because they are largely anonymous they are venting their bile against Benin. They are even saying Benin are invaders from Yoruba land. That they own all of Edo originally.

I just wonder if they had 67% of Edo population like Benin has.

Benin would be totally made redundant.

Do not let experience in university towns that are very diverse deceive you.

We cannot afford enemies within and fifth columnists. Their ancestors knew their allegiance. Today allegiance is fluid and determined by where people stand to gain more from.

Binikingdowm:
what about ignanke? Igbos claim them.

Gelegele? Ijaws claim them. And some Yoruba communities in ovia

Everyone within Edo South legal entities remain in situ. Simple. In Ovia, Yoruboid Edo are part of the Benin nation. No agitation there.

The opportunity to migrate and join whoever anyone deem to be their kin anywhere else in Nigeria or successor nations is open.

Binikingdowm:
so it should just include just Edo south??

Yes, unless Edo Central and North legally and democratically agree to be part of it.

Too many things happened by colonial or military fiat in Nigeria. And the result has been very damaging.

Well Benin Kingdom when it comes should not include non-Benin majority areas. Unless Esan, Afemai and others agree in a referendum to join.

Many Esan claim independence from Benin since about 1480s. Around when Prince Iginuwa left Benin to form what is now Warri Kingdom.

If true, it means Esan left Benin just as the name Edo was introduced. Meaning they left basically as Benin not as Edo. Which makes the name of current state that includes them a fallacy due to poor knowledge of history.

It's like people from Owu saying instead of Creating an Egba state, we prefer Abeokuta state.

What is most important is harmony, not size or population.

Well Benin Kingdom when it comes should not include non-Benin majority areas. Unless Esan, Afemai and others agree in a referendum to join.

Many Esan claim independence from Benin since about 1480s. Around when Prince Iginuwa left Benin to form what is now Warri Kingdom.
If true, it means Esan left Benin just as the name Edo was introduced. Meaning they left basically as Benin not as Edo. Which makes the name of current state that includes them a fallacy due to poor knowledge of history.

What is most important is harmony, not size or population.

Na wa o.

TheGodlessGod:
Just like igbos and their biafra, they are landlocked and don't have access to the ocean, Benin kingdom will face the same problem if nigeria was to be divided.

Apparently only Yoruba, ijaw, itskerri, ogoni and akwa cross people have access to the Sea.

A landlocked country already put a nation at a disadvantage. It limits navy power and exports.

When I said Benin kingdom I meant Benins, esans and Edo north groups.

I would like to know your opinions on this issue.

AreaFada2
Binikingdowm
Valirex
Etinosa1234
Ghostwon
Davidnazee
Samuk
Sarah20A
Edeyoung
Gregyboy

Benin has Ughoton/Gwatto port. Europeans used to berth there. There is even plan to consolidate and dredge the port. The Atlantic is directly accessible from it. So Edo was never landlocked even before imperial times in 1440.

Of course in imperial times access to the sea was multiple.

Juliusmalema:
The scenario you painted @boldes happens everywhere and not exclusive to Edo state.

People residing in Kano that are not from there speaks hausa to easily communicate and endear themselves to the people. Same happens to those in Kogi( Ebira), borno( Kanuri), Ondo( Yoruba) , Warri ( Urhobo) and the rest .So it is not exclusive.


Finally on your last paragraph, it is not a babter but historical facts been set straight. Hardly will you see an Edo or Benin person precisely without yoruba or Yoruba related name. It is not just coincidence but historical ties.

No one tells the history of themselves or the other without similarities existing.

So the scenario you painted is off tangent to historical ties of Edos and Yorubas. Both are same people.

The more reason it has been so hard to debunk certain claims.

Edos are Yorubas by blood or anything you can term it.

The difference is Edo do not impose their culture on people.

Have you not read the publication of genetic tests done in Southern Nigeria? It was only among Esan people that some genetic similarities with Yoruba were detected. Esan make up about 15 to 20% of Edo population. Not with Benin that people claim to relate to Yoruba.

Do you know that just like many Easterners lump Edo with Yoruba, many Yoruba lump anybody after Ore with Igbo. Both sides ignorantly do so. Even so called educated Yoruba in diaspora.

Your problem is that anybody who is not Igbo has to be Yoruba. This is the mental laziness caused by modern population politics of Nigeria.

A very dangerous approach that will ensure that the South will never unite. So that smaller tribes prefer the neutralising effect of three bigger tribes in Nigeria than going with Igbo or Yoruba into a new country. This benefits the North.

Juliusmalema:
I hate been countered when stating the obvious truth. Even the name Oyegun has does it sound to you?

Edo is a Yoruba state. There are so much historical ties that are very difficult to untie. Bot only that nearly all have one Yoruba name or the other.

In light of this nation coming to an end, they remain part and parcel of Oduduwa republic. Hardly will you see a yoruba man saying Benin isn't part of them. Even outside both links up easily than any other tribe.


These are enough to contain all in one yoruba family

I have it again and again. There is no tribe Edo people cannot coexist with. We had core Igbo and Yoruba tenants growing up. Aunts block of flats nearby also had Anioma and other tribes.

Those kids from those tribes who could speak local language were often mistaken for our siblings. Even those that were not born or raised locally got on well equally. In fact those those tribe or religion were never an issue. We looked forward to eating Sallah food and meat just like sharing our Christmas food and meat.

I know Benin people who named their kids after a Yoruba or Igbo friend. Also a Northern friend. Yakubu to be precise.

Some Benin and Afemai speaking areas have borders with Ondo State. Some villages have shifted between Edo and Ondo depending on border adjustment.

Edo are very receptive people and I believe imperial times played a big role in it.

Why anyone would use Edo's openness to insinuate being part of another tribe, despite historically l, culturally, linguistically and philologically different identity is very funny.

I know you enjoy Edo-Yoruba banter on Nairaland. So you are seeking another Sunday entertainment.

Good info

BAZ001:
Like play this numbers is not going down. God have mercy on us in Nigeria, our economy wey dey struggle before make this Covid no come finish am.
If you go to some part of Lagos you won't believe there is any pandemic, people living normal lives no mask, no social distance, nothing at all.
When you move to the island you will be shocked becos people are wearing mask even in their cars alone inside AC. They are very careful and afraid.
I don't know why it's always one sided.
If u look at d rate of people infected and dying in America you will see dt its d black community yet na d blacks dey street dey protest inside corona.

Awareness & economic situation are key.

More Islanders have access to information and have more money to afford PPE. For many in poorer areas, N300 for face mask is something. Less educated people tend to dismiss scientific advise. They will claim "Corona doesn't affect African man" or "common chloroquine or agbo will cure it sharp sharp".

The more well-off tend to separate from mistrust of authorities from actions beneficial to self. While the less well off allow mistrust of authorities to let them largely govt advise that would be beneficial to them. Unless some form of penalty is attached.

In America, on the average blacks roughly equate to many less well-off Lagos mainlanders. Though not exactly.

victorjoe:
please o, is this the same Obaseki that was one time NNPC head?

Nope. That was his uncle.

Something fishy is going on. Shooting in Aso Rock, bandits all over the North and Katsina on particular.

It makes one wonder if Buhari has lost it or worse.

BABANGBALI:
which kind grammar be this? Fine you no fine, English you no sabi mtcheew

Haba! Nor just mention beauty. The young lady is cute o. That is a common error, maybe even auto correct stuff.

OK. From when to when was he president?

Oh the family just want benefits for survivors of ex-presidents?

Etinosa1234:
Lemme ask u...was Allan Burns present in 1603 or he was told ?

What do u have to say abt Benin having the undisputed right to choose ur next oba and collect tributes with the use of political alliance

I'm tired of all this explanation...I've given u the platform to do so already ...now just answer yes or no...

Now go back and answer it...

Yes or no

https://www.nairaland.com/5846195/benins-owners-ogboni-confraternity-olokun/18#90602178

Etinosa1234 , abeg stop arguing Lagos matter with these people. They believe they know history of Lagos monarchy more than late Oba Oyekan and current Oba Akiolu. That tells you the people you are dealing with. It's like arguing with a random motor boy at Mushin who says he knows Dangflower more than Aliko Dangote.

gregyboy:
Since we ruled them and sacrifice them to our gods they didnt learn anything rather than just making mouth up and down......

See the way he won use to aviod winch alligator pepper oo my god, maybe they tried it with our ancestors in the poast while coming to invade them the thing vex our ancestors comot thier head sharperly

Those our ancestors were scary tho....
The ones i grew up to meet were very strict to culture... Unlike the ones now

Oh boy, even the Benin national/ war flag nor be here o. Blood red flag with a man beheading another. Those dope ancestors were truly scary.

If not, fighting off Jihadists in Edo North in 1515/1516 period for nor easy o. Those who embrace death for 72 virgins.

Na so Benin General Ezomo comot Deji Arakale of Akure head with one cut in 1818. The Deji go do yanga kill Osague, Oba's envoy bringing his instrument of inferiority (confirming Deji as a subordinate) from Oba's palace.

Not easy o.

Juliusmalema:
I disagree Mr Oyegun


Edo is APC state.

The problem was that Obaseki went late to see the godfather of yoruba politics (Tinubu) knowing fully well his state is a Yoruba state and the people has APC at heart.

To me the visit should have been more earlier. I think his actions got Tinubu angry. A stitch in time saves nine

Yoruba state in your dreams.

Midwest refused to be Awo's fiefdom in 1963. Edo will again refuse to be Tinubu's fief soon enough. Any victory of APC in September may turn out to be a Pyrrhic victory. Impunity has a way of biting people's arse.

How come APC has only one senator and one HoR member from Edo State?

It's obvious are looking for political empire in the whole South in the service of their Northern masters. Not interested in restructuring that would favour the whole South.

It is only current selfish Edo politicians (of all parties) who are seeking just power that easily forget Edo/Delta (Midwest) history and experience with Western Region.

Abeg, this thunder get business card?

His service is needed in many parts of 9ja.

Wetin be love sef? It means different things to different people.

They wey some people are desperate to marry, they will marry anything. Especially women.

Once they marry, and it turns out to have been a mistake, leaving becomes difficult. To save face.

Thing is even between siblings, they still fall out. You are bound to disagree at times with those nearest to you. Especially naturally annoying ones.

Add now add a dose of incompatibility, poverty, selfishness, stubbornness, immaturity and wrong motive for marriage to the mix.

BabaRamota1980:
Hayoholla, keep distance from these people. They are wicked. Theyve killed my car. I cant get it started. It was working fine. Keep away from them. Befoye you converse with Edo witcher chop plenty alligator pepper first so their strike can be deflected. Becareful, and dont touch any broom you see attached to a long stick, dont touch it.

What if I am an Exco member of that same coven?

Hahahahha! Evil laughter like Mama G/ Susu.
Gregyboy
Ghostwon
Valirex

Oh he wasn't quoting me directly.

BabaRamota1980:
Hayoholla, keep distance from these people. They are wicked. Theyve killed my car. I cant get it started. It was working fine. Keep away from them. Befoye you converse with Edo witcher chop plenty alligator pepper first so their strike can be deflected. Becareful, and dont touch any broom you see attached to a long stick, dont touch it.

What if I an Exco member of that same coven?

Hahahahha! Evil laughter like Mama G/ Susu.
Greyboy
Ghosttown.

Na wa o.

gregyboy:
Lol......... Seriously am laffing here.....



Gregyboy na winch this part got me......

I feel like sucking your blood na... Lol

#yorubasarepained......, ghostwon, AreaFada2, Areafada, valirex

Lol. Hehehe.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Apc has majority , how did Pdp now have 2 Senate Seats with Apc 1

And even 4 out of the 5 House of Rep members belong to PDP too.

Lucky Igbinedion damaged PDP in Edo, otherwise Edo is PDP like other SS & most SE states if not for election rigging.

Now that Ize-Iyamo, the last key member of Igbinedion administration is out, PDP may now get a chance.

While Oshiomhole was maneuvering, Obaseki has long been preparing his move to PDP. He knew it could be his last option if Oshio remains party chairman.

Officialgarri:
Atiku's failure stemmed from Obasanjo's finger he bit after 2003 election.

Buhari's loyalty earned him a Ministerial position after being kicked out by a coup.

Abba kyari's loyalty earned him his stay in Buhari's closet

Osinbanjo's loyalty earned him his VP position today.

Good that you talk of loyalty to godfathers. Which loyalty have the godfathers shown to the Nigerian masses they are supposed to serve?

If these people craving loyalty like gods had turned Nigeria into Singapore or even Malaysia, I will even understand.

If true the hotel should be shamed and people should boycott it.

With placard protest calling it rapist friendly hotel.

oluwadabira111:
Someone should remind the Senate that the executive is incharge of the armed force and ministers are under the executive!

The legislature has oversight of the executive. That is why they must vet and confirm FEC appointments and in fact most MDA heads.

They can summon virtually any public servant to hold them to account.

It is only that corruption has made Nigerian institutions a pitiful mockery.

Those invited probably know that those people just want some money again. That's probably the reason for lack of respect.

Remember SEC head Arumah Otteh and the House of Rep that year.

faibru:
Open every where... the government is not ready to handle the Chinese birus ...don't lock us down again. ..we are tired
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BE PREPARED

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Finally, some sensible advice. From a GP Nurse in the UK.

What I have seen a lot of are recommendations for how to try to avoid getting coronavirus in the first place:

• good hand washing
• personal hygiene
• social distancing

but what I have NOT seen a lot of is advice for what happens if you actually get it, which many of us will.
So as your friendly neighborhood Nurse let me make some suggestions:

If you get Covid-19

You basically just want to prepare as though you know you’re going to get a nasty respiratory bug, like bronchitis or pneumonia. You just have the foresight to know it might come your way!

Things to start doing now:

Get 20 minutes sun on your entire body (or as much as possible) every day. This will dramatically increase your Vitamin D levels, which improves your immune system.

If affordable take a good general supplement, plus 2000mg Vit C a day. Include ZINC, SELENIUM & GLUTATHIONE.

Scott’s Emulsion is a great general tonic (cod liver oil)

Things you should actually buy ahead of time:

*Kleenex*

*Paracetamol*

*Cough medicine* of choice (check the label and make sure you're not doubling up on Paracetamol)

*Zinc lozenges*

*Throat spray* like Andolex or TCP

*Honey and lemon* can work just as well!

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90% of healthy adult cases thus far have been managed at home with basic rest/hydration/over-the-counter meds.

If you are worried or in distress or feel your symptoms are getting worse:

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*Be calm and prepare rationally* and everything will be fine. This is to inform us all that the pH for corona virus varies from 5.5 to 8.5.

All we need to do, to beat corona virus, we need to take more of an alkaline foods that are above the above pH level of the Virus.

Some of which are:

*Lemon - 9.9pH*
*Lime - 8.2pH*
*Avocado - 15.6pH*
*Garlic - 13.2pH*
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*Tangerine - 8.5pH*
*Pineapple - 12.7pH*
*Dandelion - 22.7pH*
*Orange - 9.2pH*

How do you know you have coronavirus?

1. Itching in the throat
2. Dry throat
3. Dry couch
4. High temperature
5. Shortness of breath
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7. Covid toes - toes turning blue/black
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OK.

I believe Evelyn's story.

In the same USA where a white police man Chauvin knelt on Floyd's neck to kill him, over the feud they allegedly had working as security guards previously, some white people show uncommon kindness to black people.

Experiences differ quite often. In 9ja currently some are benefiting from the system. For them there's no better place to be. For many others it's a fine mess.

Osondi owendi.