₦airaland Forum

Exc2000:



we cant even sell our oil, even if they pay us $20 per barrel, our oil are at high sea accruing bills , demorage and storage / shiping fees

Tinubu's advise comes handy now, print in more Local currency to stimulate local purchasing power just has US are doing right now printing dollar, when the economy goes right CBN can mop up excess liquidity

O[b]r They can use Atiku's model seeking us to sell National revenue generating Asset so as to generate forex and spend it on toothpick, gucci and prada.. and when the next recession comes we wont have anything to sell again[/b]

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Although you meant to be cheeky, do you know that there are "assets" that cost a lot to maintain but yet generate no profit? Such only increase debt and over time cost more than its actual worth. Unless they are strategic or of national security importance, certain assets are a liability.

Look at Nigeria airways in 1999. In 1979, OBJ left about 30 aircraft in the fleet. By 1999 it had ONE aircraft when OBJ returned. Yet we had staff, owed salaries and huge expenses going with it. It was wound down after the books were checked and mounting debt found. Some former staff were still being owed as at last year.

There are assets our corrupt system cannot manage, so better privatise them PROPERLY.

helinues:
We must blame Buhari for the low oil price...

Maybe not oil price. But for the One Naira to $1 promise he didn't keep. Not that we didn't know it was outrageous to begin with.

stormborn28:
the in laws cannt do anything. Neither can the woman do anything... The evidence is in the public and the case Don become government own... Do you know what it means for government to buy case

It depends on the jurisdiction. You will still need the lady to corroborate the story. What if she says it wasn't her hubby who beat her up and the man also withdraws the statement online? In some jurisdictions, a spouse cannot be compelled to be a witness in a case against their spouse, unless they have brought the case against own spouse.

gregyboy:
At what year was benin under oyo rule and at what year did they leave

Abeg leave that guy with his Osogbo weed.

She always had a strong face. Focused.

Ezennwa:
hmm!

Wrong decision! why granting him bail.

Our Judges are only interested in money and not justice

It's the tariff legally attached to the crime. It allows bail, as the sentence is likely to be little if found guilty.

Domestic battery is only just being taken a bit seriously now. Since many legislators are likely women batterers like the senator that beat up a sex shopkeeper, our laws are way behind. Just 20 years ago many would have said "good job, show her you are the man". Judges' hands are tied.

The inlaws will soon pressure the lady to try kill the case "because of the children".

topatee:
I wonder if majority of people on this forum actually lives in Nigeria, We are so insensitive to the plight of an average Nigeria who bears the burden of bad leadership at all levels in this country, yesterday I was discussing with a private school teacher who narrated his sad experience with this COVID era, for the past two months he has not being paid a dime, because children were not in school and as such, no money from parents so proprietor could not pay salary, why? some parents were still owing. Yet some people want lockdown to continue.
From all the senseless lockdown we have had so far what have we achieved?
The whole world is opening up their economy to prevent total collapse and someone is still saying lockdown should continue, maybe because you can afford to stay indoors forever, but do you know your level of hypocrisy? The very food you buy when this *****" ease lockdown, where do they come from?
When crime rates surge some of us will blame security operatives not remembering that our small ****** contributions is part of the fuelling factor.
Before you make next contribution, ask yourself, how are Nigerians who survives on daily pay have been coping

I know a teacher not paid since November. Way before Coro. It is the system that has failed. Serious countries are subsidising wages, even of private sector workers as they sit at home on lockdown.

ybalogs:
Why Pete dey wait inside car nah? I've missed your proverbs ooo

For example: One must swat a TSE TSE fly perching on one's testicles with almost caution.

RIP to Destiny's dad.

It's every living being's destiny to go one day.

PrecisionFx:
Population is not the problem. China is over 1.3 billion pple n they are doing well.

Besides Nigeria's real population is around 100 million.

China introduced one child policy almost 50 years ago to damp population growth. While using that time to plan. Yet China still has many rural poor. Imagine if they were 2.6 to 3 billion.

Population always matters in developing countries. Even most developed countries, despite their low birth rate, still try to control population by preventing immigrants aside those with high skills.

Even if our population is 80 million, we are clearly still not able to provide for them. No roads, no light, classrooms bursting at the seams, high unemployment, 70% poverty.

Chochovini:
. ABEG Help me ask them o. People are just typing trash because of an ordinary Monkey. An animal for that matter.

I do not support killing monkey in this day and age especially those facing extinction due to deforestation and use of herbicides in farms.

But some monkeys are very plentiful and invade corn, cocoa, plantain, banana, and other fruit farms.

But how does one kill a monkey these days? With a gun I guess.

Iko5000:
Ebola plus covid 19 loading in person belle

More like Ebocov-20.
That would be ultimate bad ass.

Until we admit to ourselves that we are a poor country, we cannot get anywhere.

Even if we produced and sold 6 million barrels a day, we would still be very poor. As it's 70% our income source. Under 150 to 200 trillion Naira budget is inadequate. Comprehensive health care, Education, infrastructure (roads, water, electricity, railway, etc), welfare system, housing, Agric subsidy, recurrent expenditure/civil service, science & tech, defense, law enforcement/security, judiciary, political institutions, etc.

We should mellow and eat humble pie. Beginning with family planning/birth/population control. Otherwise we will just be producing more criminals and street urchins.

Welcome baby Adekoro.

Congrats to his parents.

Igboid:
AreaFada2:



I don't actually think Nzeogwu should have been handed over to be butchered. I'm just playing along with the blame game and telling you where the buck of the blame stops and it's on Nzeogwu table.
Nzeogwu wasn't killed because of Fajuiyi who was Nzeogwu and his boys mentors and Ironsi right hand man. He was the one who advised Ironsi to save the boys and continually pleaded on the boys case. This angered the Northern soldiers and that's part of the reasons they marked him for death and indeed killed him. To cover up for why Fajuiyi was killed, the Lagos-Ibadan propagandan media machine spinned the lies of Fajuyi being killed because he was pleading for Ironi life.
I don't know what you meant by saying that Orizu connived to hand power to Ironsi. Ironsi was a military man with troops at his command and wanted power handed over to him. What did you expect Orizu to do? Say No to Ironsi and pay with his life or what? The sort of spin you lots give these narratives is mind blowing. Even Ogundipe a military man couldn't stand up to Gowon, but Orizu a civilian was expected to say no to military man with troops at his command, because he is Igbo. And he is being vilified for not defying a military man with troops to command?




Okotie-Eboh and Nzeogwu were Midwesters. How about that?
So how do you think we feel when Nigerians massacred Igbo military officers and went after civilians and still expect us to be country men with them since we are talking about feelings now.



So there are now Igbos in Midwest. I thought they are all Bini descendants? You can't seem to keep your goalposts one place, can you?



So what happened when they reached home, why was the agreement reneged on?



This is bunkum. Agreement is the end result of a negotiation. It's at negotiation table that you give and take. You can't come overnight and want an agreement to be changed again or amended, that's the aim of negotiations.
Nigeria was not safe for Ojukwu. Ejoor who was in control of Midwest was pro Nigeria. Ojukwu would have been stupid to accept any such stupid invitations after the Nigeria massacred Igbos a second time after they promised Ojukwu their safety and asked them to return back. Nigeria proved they don't play by any civil rules.

You reach an agreement on Aburi, you keep it. If you didn't keep it, then you have reneged on it, it's as simple as that



The thing I agree with you. Ndiigbo will never be comfortable existing in same country with Yorubas and the North after Biafra. It will never work. Our resentment of Nigeria will never stop until we are no longer part of Nigeria.



Exactly. I don't think any of us need each other. We are totally different people. Separation and borders will make us good neighbors.

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Binis were not the only ones who fought British. Ekumeku of the west Igbos was even more fierce. And there was The Anglo-Aro war of 1901. A full year out and out war.
You don't see Ndiigbo blaming anyone for that one too.



The only mistake I see leading to the war, was Zik shortsightedness in not realizing that Union between Ndiigbo and Yoruba /North is a destructive non feasible one. He had opportunity to fight for independence of Igboland as an independent country before Nigeria independence, but choose to fight for a United Nigeria.
That's the mistake present Igbo youths are hell bent on correcting. It was a life costing mistake.

First off, I do not really care what Anioma call themselves. All I care about is that neither you nor me should decide for them. Period.
You called them Igbo, I agreed with you that since Kaduna came from Anioma, the North saw a chance to avenge the deaths of Northern leaders on Anioma people. Simple.

After Balewa was abducted and feared dead, Orizu had the chance to swear in Dipcharima at least as interim prime minister. Dip was Balewa's deputy. Or at least consult with Northern leaders who they'd prefer. He didn't. He would have bridged that vacuum. It would be left to the military to overthrow Dip. IBB did it to Shonekan. The North wisely chose two Western presidential candidates in 1999. Choosing common sense over Braggadocio.

For Ironsi to take Orizu into another room first smelt very fishy indeed.

As for Ekukumeku, Banjo and a few other Yorubas fought on Biafra side but it doesn't mean Yorubas were on Biafra side.

Good that you recognise Zik as fighting for a united Nigeria while Awo fought against it before independence. Maybe Zik born in Zungeru, Niger State, made his career in Lagos and widely exposed, saw how much Igbo needed Nigeria as a whole. Maybe you are wiser than Zik.

Moreover, in Zik's book published in 1970, he clearly traced his origins to Benin.

As Nigeria stands, diversity is a massive curse now, we need to agree to disagree and go separate ways. Ideally like the two Koreas. We need another 60 years of total separation, since a peaceful separation will not be possible.

Fajuyi was given a chance to handover Ironsi and go free but he refused. His widow confirmed it. So Fajuyi wasn't marked for anything. Ibadan just happened to be an easier place to get Ironsi.

NIFOR meeting was meant to ratify Aburi Accord. Ojukwu had his copy. If FG changed the accord, he had the right to ask for time to decide as tactics to leave.

Well, maybe to you the life of Nzeogwu was worth more than the lives of millions of Igbo and Nigerians who died, your choice.

Nzeogwu died during the war anyway.

Nzeogwu killed even a fellow Midwesterner but no Igbo, so it sent a message that Igbo were in cahoots, rightly or wrongly. It compounded the whole thing.

Christistruth00:
The Benin had nothing to do with the British invasion of Lagos . Lagos was already independent of Benin and to confirm this the Benin Army never lifted a finger to save Lagos from the British it was Yorubas that did all the fighting with especially the Awori,Egba, and Ijebu infact , Ijebu Epe was where King Kosoko and his Army escaped to. Benin had nothing to do in the affair. Benin that was too weak to defend itself even from Gen Ogedengbe and the Ekiti Parapo Army. Gen Ogendegbe invaded Benin Kingdom and would have taken Benin itself after occupying many towns in Northern Edo State today if not for the desperation of the Oba in pacifying him with gifts and pleadings.

Ogedengbe invaded and was pacified, what kind of warrior is that?

The letter sent to British officers to Benin over Kosoko is on record. Do not twist history.

Christistruth00:
Benin paid tribute to Oyo starting with Alaafin Oranmiyan ? This is a well known fact among Oyo Historians.


From Sir Alfred Maloney
British Colonial Governor of Lagos 1890

Yoruba story in 1890 to colonial people livid about Benin influence, good 40 years after taking Lagos from Benin. Which Benin imperial authorities did the British confirm it from in 1890?

Assuming it's true as Yoruba some Yoruba assert that Oranmiyan left Benin and founded Oyo. So if his son Eweka (assuming true, but doubtful) sent gifts to his father, it's now called tribute? Lol.

Christistruth00:
Are you aware that Benin paid tribute to Oyo starting with Alaafin Oranmiyan ? This is a well known fact among Oyo Historians.

Lol. Oshogbo weed must be very popular among those your Oyo historians. Maybe they even soak the weed in kaikai

Eberejesus111:
Okay, that's good. But constitutional monarchy has it's ill effect. Let's take Britian for example, people who know Britain well know that development there isn't even. All and everything is concentrated in London. Ever thought why? that's constiitunal monarchy, all those countries you mentioned, development isn't even for them.

And that's because, "who cares a hoot by what the citizens say when we have to develop the place of our King." The Englishmen are accustomed to it, that's why when they go to places like America or all other democratic states they're thrilled of how much freedom they have and the space of development.

The British Aristrocracy only provided the basic amenities of living in all other areas of England ward, and some industries if there are raw materials. And concentrated more on where she is, and that is London.

I don't know of Japan, but I guess that's what's happening there too. All other areas of this constitutional states are farmlands, or industrial complexes if they've got raw produce for manufacturing (no urbanized lifestyle or international companies situated there). I guess most Britons aren't that happy but happy, and that's because the Royal of Britain provided Health insurance and all other things to make life smooth but not that easy for them.

And lastly, when you say most countries operating constitutional monarchy, I beg to defer. It's only a small fraction in the world that practice such system. Check analytics.

Actually, no country has even development. Not even USA. France has no no monarchy for over 220 years. Only Scandinavian countries have more even development and almost all are monarchies. Size of a country matters. Germany with also a more even development is due to true Federalism where Federal govt supports poorer states partly funded by richer states.
Capital cities housing the govt are typically developed. Abuja is already more developed than many ancient Nigerian cities.

London grew through trade with Hanseatic and other traders over many centuries. Also political capital, cultural and key commercial centre for centuries now. It wasn't developed for the King.

The Queen's favourites residences are Windsor and Belmoral. Both outside London. One even in Scotland.

Eberejesus111:
Now, let me tell you something. Democracy is only meant for a people, who have gone through a struggle, leaving aside cultural or tribal affinities. You can't have democracy if you haven't learnt from the country your pulling out from.

Britain and France had a monarchy, but the governments were ousted, Britian's monarchy was lucky because she quickly learnt from France. France had a revolution, and removed the monarchy.

Preceding that, these countries that had monarchies where held in prejudice, poverty, and subjection. The rulers say was the last say, and if they didn't adhere to it, they were dead, even for flimsy mistakes.

The royals of England were strict Episcopals or Anglicans and they wanted every one to follow suit, if you didn't your head was needed at the stakes. It was that serious. This is the reason the first colonials that set foot in America, were men and women seeking to be free from the religious bigotry of medieval England.

Let's talk on Africa or the Oba now, do you think the Oba would accept freedom or your freedom in all quarters of your life. I don't think so. Coupled with that, he'll add tradition to it, telling you not to come out in certain days because it's his day, or tributes should be offered to him.

A free country is the best, think about it. And don't think when Biafra is making their constitution, it would be only Igbos sitting and deciding on it. In fact everyone, would decide on it. All who took part in the struggle for independence. Then with the constitution laid down and executed, wait in five years and you'll begin to see progress.

These days most countries operate constitutional monarchy. With a parliament and prime minister under the watchful eye of the King. I think it's the perfect mix. No political leader can become too power drunk. Imagine if Mobutu, Hophuet Boigny and others had a king watching their actions. They would have behaved better.
UK, Holland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Spain, Belgium and Japan are successful examples. Monarchy also gave Thailand some stability over the years.

The Oba would be above politics but ready to dismiss any poorly performing govt.

How did the debate even come about sef? Why should Eto'o be involved in the debate? He should be above it.
Eto'o can respect the likes of Abedi Pele, Roger Miller, Weah, Nkono and others who paved the way.
But Eto'o is African GOAT.

Igboid:
AreaFada2



I know you are an Edo and have big interest in Anioma even though you massacred them in Bini city during the war .
This is why I would not let your history revisionism slide.

See, the main cause of all events that led to the war was Nzeogwu coup. Everything else that came after was a cascade. No Nzeogwu coup, no Ironsi, no Nwafor Orizu, nothing else. Once Nzeogwu organized his boys and killed Northern leaders with Ironsi refusing to hand Nzeogwu and his boys over to blood thirsty North for public execution, everything else Ironsi or Ndiigbo did will be always interpreted with the bias of knowing that Nzeogwu a supposedly Igbo man murdered Northern leaders with his boys.
Nzeogwu was the trigger who opened the Pandora box. If we are looking for blames, it stops at his table, he is the SOURCE.




Midwest was never Neutral. Midwest was part and parcel of the Nigerian delegation that came to Aburi for negotiations with Eastern region.
I don't know where you got the idea of Midwest being neutral from. There were also many Midwest soldiers in Nigerian military that attacked Biafra.
And we know that part of the grouse the non Igbo Midwesterners had with Biafra occupation was that Ojukwu removed Ejoor who was pro Nigeria( yet another proof that Midwest was never neutral)and replaced him with Okonkwo who was an Anioma person. Many non Igbo Midwesterners saw this move as imposition of Igbo domination on them. You see, when it pleases you lots, Anioma becomes Igbo, when it doesn't, they become Bini descendants. We are told by Edo people that Anioma are not Igbos but are Bini descendants, but when Ojukwu appointed a Bini descendant Anioma man to replace an Urhobo man in Midwest, Bini and Edoids forgot that Aniomas are Bini descendants, instead, cries of Igbo domination filled the air. Who is deceiving who?



More like the other way round. Maybe if Ironsi handed Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna to the North to butcher. Maybe there wouldn't have been any war to begin with. Maybe if Nzeogwu didn't start what he couldn't finish, they would not have been war to start with.



Stop beating round the bush with your cheap divide and conquer tactics.
If you believe Ndiigbo needs Nigeria more than Nigeria needs Ndiigbo, we dare you to do to us like Malay federation did to Singapore when they were convinced that Singapore were a liability, they expelled them from the Malay federation.
Its only in Nigeria where folks claim Igbos need them more than Nigeria needs Ndiigbo, yet they die inside at the mention of Biafra. One would think they should be the ones pushing and helping Ndiigbo to achieve Biafra.

Good that you admit that Nzeogwu didn't face the law as failed coup plotters do. Like Dimka 10 years later. A Northerner who wasn't spared. That Nzeogwu was spared came from the fact that Orizu and Ironsi connived to give power to an Igbo man.

If Okotie-Eboh, Bello or Balewa was your kinsman how would you interpret that move by two Igbo leaders and transferring Nzeogwu to a South Prison subsequently? Be honest with yourself.

Nzeogwu knew the consequences of failed coup as a soldier so why should he not face being butchered after butchering other people?

Since you justify invasion of Midwest as an enemy territory, you have just also justified whatever happened to Igbo in Midwest after Biafra invaded.

What you forget is that Southern military governors supported Ojukwu position at Aburi. Only Hassan Katsina, governor of North Central opposed it. The memos are there to see.

Midwest vouched for Ojukwu's safety and organised post Aburi conference between FG and Ojukwu at NIFOR near Benin City. Even though Ojukwu visited Benin a day earlier he didn't come to NIFOR. To later say "on ABURI we stand" without coming to an agreed conference to officially hear whatever changes or give and take FG wanted was insincere and costly.

Go back to my posts years ago and you will see the following I have always said: that my family was one of the first to welcome Igbo back after the war, that Igbo kids my relatives midwifed that perished in the East were mourned like family when their parents came back, that poor handling of POST Biafra by FG and marginalisation of Igbo has led to the poor state of Nigeria and that 50 years on, with Nigeria not making any progress, Igbo should be allowed to go peacefully. In fact various people should have the chance to choose.

That way the question of who needs the other the most will be finally out to bed.

But Biafra war pre-empted any meaningful reorganization as it's used as a warning whenever any restructuring is touted.

When Benin faced Britain in 1897, we didn't get the support of neighbouring tribes including Igbo. Even though many of the soldiers Britain used to attack and burn down Benin were from across West Africa including what is now Nigeria, but we do not blame other Nigerians for our fate.

Yet not everybody is against Igbo. But Igbo also need to see the mistakes they made leading up to the war.

Honestly I do not like people who would be enemies within.

At some point people will have to be given a choice to choose where to belong. That includes both Edo Central and Edo North. Igbanke too if they want.

A state of 3 million homogeneous people has a better chance of succeeding than one of 4.5 to 5 million but disunited.

Disunity and lack of common purpose got Nigeria into the pitiable state it's in.

Let oil kukuma lose total value. At least the air and water pollution in Niger Delta will reduce.

Maybe fishing and farming can return there one Day.

We had 60 years of oil money to diversify. We cannot blame outsiders for it.

Na Super story. Who dey mumu like this these days?
If even 25% of the story is true, OP you need deliverance because na ogbanje queen dey on top your matter.

Do you think very handsome guys who marry average looking girls na fool? Most have dated many fine girls for choosing a wife.

Is this the kind of girl that will stick with you if you hit a financial rough patch, this serial cheat?

In Western climes that's quite normal.

But in 9ja where things are upside down, it may seem out of order.

Many are like that but have to repress it to be seen as a man.

In 100 years in 9ja, most people would probably become like you.

gregyboy:
I hear you go sleep

Kikikikiki.

Anytime anybody from Osun village or some remote South West hamlet reaches Lagos or has access to social media, they begin to yarn dust.

Ibadan of yesterday was getting tributes from Benin and Benin was getting tributes from Lagos even during Elekoship of Kosoko until 1850s when Britain took Lagos? Hahahaha!

So Ibadan could not take over Lagos next door, and they now went to Benin?

What they try to deny is that Benin City was the Lagos (metropolis and the place to show off your skills and if lucky, get royal patronage) in imperial times.

Many languages were spoken by immigrants from various parts of the empire: artisans, servants, wives taken from other tribes, war captives, etc. So the sound of Igbo, Ijaw and Yoruba would not have been strange. Moreover, less than 50km from Benin City begin Yoruba speaking areas, some now in Ondo State, some still inside Edo State. I know all that area well and how they were under Benin influence.

davillian:
Am not here to prove anything to anyone
You can say what ever you like its none of my business
If you think getting close to someone
Means sexual relationship
Then you are mad.....

For many people, a man & a woman are like goat and yam. Not to be trusted together.

They cannot envisage any genuine friendship. The notion that a lady can be pretty but not romantically attractive to a man is unimaginable.

For that reason I gradually cut off friendships when female friends marry. Even some of the ladies ask if you were in love with them but now angry that they are married. They do not understand. It's to save them trouble. Their husbands may not approve of such friendships.

Another aspect is financial assistance to a married lady. Many hubbies cannot imagine how often their wives seek help from old friends. When you complain that your wife is a drain on your pocket, blah blah blah, often she will stop asking you. Instead go ask understanding friends, usually helpful male buddies from the past. It can be even be an ex when she's financially in a tight corner.

Still, as a man be careful helping with money. It can be interpreted wrongly. Your good Samaritan act can come to bite you in the "bom-bom".

davillian:
I understand women don't like each other
The only thing they do is compete and envy each other....
She had a child in 400lvl meaning she got pregnant and decided to keep it though her friend felt its not the right time for her to be a single mother....
This life, never laugh at anyone present conditions or predicaments
Who knows table might turn sooner or later.

I have a friend who was unable to have a child 10yrs after marriage I know what she went through the abuse, the insults, the stigma etc
It got so bad she can't play with other peoples children because they call her mami water because she is so beautiful with clean skin.
I can't count how many times she cried on phone, how many times she felt like running away how many times she felt like killing her self....
Its not like she was one loose girl she married her husband as a virgin...
God did it for her last year she named her son after me...

Reason I don't look down on anyone is that no one knows 2moro.

One lesson I learnt about women long ago is that most do not like your sincere opinion. They want your support. Even if they have just murdered someone.

Some have even told me that although my point is spot on BUT I should not have said it to their face. That they feel embarrassed hearing such an opinion from a friend. So in many ways they encourage hypocrisy causing fake friendship.

A friend genuinely concerned about how she'd cope as a single mum incurred hate. She'd never mention other ways this lady supported her at school.

Assisted reproductive techniques are getting better and will give many people a chance to conceive.

Like you mentioned, lots of women compete. Many such friendships are fake and meeting up are used to weigh each other up.

dkdmy:
FG sud increase testing! Ghana, South Africa and other smaller countries have carried out over 100,000 tests

If Nigeria cannot do 20,000 tests a day, shame on on governments at all levels. We should have several mobile testing units in more populated cities and in every state. With a view to testing ALL healthcare workers and symptomatic/suspected cases and their contacts/household.

In parallel, snap tests of the general public to gauge general level of infection should be done. Running into thousands across the nation.

hmmmm

Henry, Iniesta, Eto, Sneijder, Drogba, Cafu, Pirlo & Maldini.

In the last 30 years, aside Canavarro, defenders however brilliant hardly get a look in.

Rodwave:
Not bad. It can even be 20 as far as I'm concern. The important thing is peace and progress. Not the wickedness that pervades the current Nigeria.

Yep. Part of the process is to ensure only people who wish to be together actually come together. Even the Bible says two cannot walk together unless they agree.

We have a better chance of removing that wickedness if people feel genuine patriotism.