₦airaland Forum

phreakabit:
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77ken:
@Beaf,
Dude u need to see this, it is for real. It is on some face book pages already.

Jarus:
If Sanusi should be replying every allegation made in private blogs and Facebook, then he will not have time for any other thing. Anybody can write anything in informal media, I have read people claim on NL here that SLS employs only northerners etc. Let Eghes make this allegation in a credible medium like newpaper or TV, not on Facebook or private blog, and come to public knowledge, if he is sure of his facts, after all he is also a known figure that speaks on TV programmes. Then, he can be taken seriously. CBN governnor will not stoop so low as to be officially/formally issuing statements to reply what someone wrote in one online forum or Facebook or blog. And if the allegation is credible and not baseless, you think it would not have made major news headlines since he made it on Feb 1?

Jarus:
As for you, Beaf.
The burden of proof lies in the 'accuser'. It is not about claiming something. Everybody can claim anything. But provide hard facts, maybe prison records, or more easily, newspaper cuttings to show it happened, after all such a thing cannot happen without it being reported in the media.

I have presented what SLS was doing and where he was from 1983 to date. He was in Khartoum University 1992-1997. Prove otherwise, after all, the Toronto goers were exposed.

The burden is on you to first prove your assertions with hard facts.

Obiagu1:
I hope they make the proceedings public.

“We believe that those areas where there are (is) consensus, except because of the emerging realities, you need to tinker about it, you package them as bills for us and send to the National Assembly but those broaden headlines that there are still controversies, we may expand, we will recommend expansion of your team because those ones will require probably some ethnic nationalities, some opinion leaders, some cultural groups to represent their interests and we will have to debate those sections differently.

Obiagu1:
Call it SNC or any other name but the aim will be to restructure the country except he sees no problem in the way Nigeria is constituted. SNC does not equate disintegration of Nigeria.

As for the quote "a larger body will meet on issues that are still controversial for a national consensus" does not make sense to me. Nigeria as a whole is controversial from the illegal states and LGAs created by illegal military regimes without conducting a referendum to federal civil service to redefining citizenship and indigene/settler problem to revenue allocation to resource control to . . . everything.
It's not a case where he will selectively pick what to be discussed.

“In recognition of the demands by Nigerians for a constitutional amendment, we set up the Justice Belgore Committee to bring up all those issues which have been agreed upon at previous national conferences, for presentation as bills to the National Assembly, and subsequent passage into law, while a larger body will meet on issues that are still controversial for a national consensus.”

diluminati:
I'm still trying to figure out if you have anything to do with GEJones govt. The way you've spread disinformation in this forum warrants a 'fatwa' on you. (pun intended)

ochukoccna:
Its not about defects in the constitution dummy,
its about defects in the country's setup.

What these Mallams fail to realise is that there are a group Northern oil mongers, most of them ex-military rulers who collectively net over the 13 percent that accrue to Niger Delta states.

A few Northern generals share over 15 per cent of Nigeria’s oil wealth.
Their companies have the best oil mining leases over the best oil blocks, and have entered into very profitable production sharing contracts with oil majors who operate the fields. These companies have directors who are Man Fridays for these Hausa-Fulani civil and post civil war conquerors. These companies of theirs receive more oil money than the entire Niger Delta.
Some are not generals, some were ‘generals’ in the Customs service, and have controlling shares in companies that control ports/FTZs and make more money that any Niger Delta state. There are others who were not uniformed generals, but have received titles reserved for Generals, simply because they wisely invested the loots of Generals.

Like Elrufai, I am trying to paint a picture: a picture of the root of Boko Haram. I am positing that some few Northern individuals- military and civilian generals- benefit over 15% of the nation’s oil wealth, while the Niger Delta only gets 13%; that the Niger Delta is not the problem with Boko Haram: the northern elites are. The wealth of the North; its 15% derivation from oil and politics is private hands. They have failed their people.

Their insatiable quest to rule and to dominate their poor and to retain a perpetually subservient proletariat class, in a very brutal class order, rolled over since the early days of the Fulani hegemony have fostered only poverty. It is a wicked class order that has disrupted and extinguished the stars of the Almajiris on the altar of the senseless chase of power, position and prominence.

oiseworld:
@beaf
u could also help on the american motto "IN GOD WE TRUST"

oiseworld:
@sweetlemon
u've made lots of points there, but still using america as a case study for nigeria, i would say lets find out what really binds them together. It must be really strong. And i would say its religion.(christianity). Every other religion are minor emmigrants. The founding fathers had already layed the indept laws of the bible into their constitution.
Thats why nigeria is finding it difficult to work. Wth two powerful and totally different religions we have different tots of reasoning and selfish religious pursue. Therefore a need for SNC.

""Though free, we were not yet united [1783]. The loose Articles of Confederation did not provide a strong national government, common currency or consistent judicial system. Men of vision realized that another step must be taken if the weak Confederation of American States was to become a strong, unified nation. Again Freemasonry set the pattern in ideology and form. Since the Masonic federal system of organization was the only pattern for effective organization operating in each of the original Thirteen Colonies, it was natural that patriotic Brethren should turn to the organizational base of the Craft for a model. Regardless of the other forces that affected the formation of the Constitution during the Constitutional Convention in 1787, the fact remains that the federalism created is identical to the federalism of the Grand Lodge system of Masonic government created in Anderson's Constitutions of 1723."

BlackPikiN:
I support 1000% o.

Let them make a nice uniform with no pockets.

RICHIE BOI:
How sad and yet 1 trillion naira was voted for security in this country. Nigerian Bomb Squad indeed!

But Boko Haram has suicide bombers with explosives”.  Andrew Azazi’s real intention for the interview was clear: there was not going to be any dialogue with Boko Haram. As he told FT, he forecloses any dialogue with Boko Haram, because the group ‘is still faceless’. Azazi gave his FT interview on February 10, 2012, much after PresidentGoodluck Jonathan’s interview with Reuters, on January 26, 2012.

President Jonathan had unambiguously stated, that his administration was willing to dialogue with Boko Haram: “If they clearly identify themselves now and say this is the reason why we are resisting, this is the reason why we are confronting government or this is the reason why we are destroying some innocent people and their properties…then there will be a basis for a dialogue…

What is frightening is the fact that an unelected National Security Adviser, Andrew Azazi, seemed to be countermanding the Commander-in-Chief! The president stretches a hand of dialogue in an interview with Reuters on January 26, while Azazi in FT on February 10 forecloses dialogue. Now who is the boss here, Jonathan or Azazi?

This question is not altogether a flight of fancy, because it follows a pattern of behaviour by the NSA. On January 2nd, 2011, the long-time Nigeria watcher, American Professor Jean Heskovits, wrote an article for the famous New York Times newspaper, warning the United States government against getting sucked into a Nigerian variant of the controversial “War on Terror”, for a host of reasons; chiefly, the professor had argued that “the root cause of violence and anger in both the north and south of Nigeria is endemic poverty and hopelessness”.

Two days later, on January 4, Andrew Azazi, chose the rightwing rag, Washington Times, to stoke hysteria in America, arguing that “terrorists from Nigeria have again turned the joyful celebrations of Christmas into a D-Day for premeditated mass murder…America is at risk from this type of violence”. He subsequently sought for a “strategic security relationship” with the Americans; a euphemism for AFRICOM, which is essentially an American imperialist platform to secure oil and fight Islam!