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Rooneyboy: ur obviously a mad man.

How dare u compare catholic and islam ?
How many people hv u seen Catholics kill in the name of religion ?

frosbel: Not necessarily , he had the appearance of a MAN does not indicate he is a MAN because we know that angels are spirits and MEN are mortal , therefore they are not of the same substance.

Also when we revisit the visions of the major prophets in the bible we can see that some high ranking angels had the face of MEN but they were not MEN.

example :

"10 As for the form of their faces, each had the face of a man; [d]all four had the face of a lion on the right and the face of a bull on the left, and [e]all four had the face of an eagle. 11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out above; each had two touching another being, and two covering their bodies." - Ezekiel 1:10-11

alexleo: Yes we believe in trinity.

ijawkid: Erm!!....wahala go dey for this question o...

You know na...lol...

pastormustwacc: One thing i can conclude so far is that, Angel Michael & Jesus seem to play similar roles. 2 captains?

truthislight: arch angel means leader of the angels. No?

Unless you are of the opinion that we have two angelic commander in heaven, do we?

Jesus christ is the personage that created all other things both in heaven and on earth.

Jesus christ is the only personage that Yahweh personally created by himself and that made him an only beggoten son of God.

As the only beggoten son and te one Yahweh used to creat all the angelic host, that makes Jesus far above all the angels he created.



so, this ^^^ argument is self refuting since Jesus christ and his role is of an only beggoten son. Read this:

"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things exist." (Colossians 1:16-17).

By nature he is greater than all the angels.

Why is calling him "leader of the angel" a problem to you all?

You thing there is a "divide and rule" in heaven?

Does the theory of two captains in heaven makes sense to you?

BARRISTERS: 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.

that the person reffered to in revelation 19 is (a)'' an angel''and a leader of heavenly armies (b)he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS." (Revelation 19:14-16). (c)and his name is called "The Word of God.

solbil: so did you save them? You watchtowerist!

pastormustwacc: ^^^Excellent, i dont want it to look like i was the one misinterpreting. Because the article-writer was claiming that since the arc angel carried that trumpet, and the trumpet wakes people up, then the arcangel must be Jesus.

And the article writer somehow managed to skip too conveniently:
"For to which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father"? Or again, "I will be his Father, and he will be my Son"?" - Hebrews 1:5

Sike: IT'S ALWAYS ADVISABLE TO PRAY FOR THE DEAD.

italo: @ Enigma,
I see! You love St. Ignatius' letter so much, but only one phrase of it. The phrase you can easily twist to be what you want it to be without looking at the broader context of what your dear Saint is talking about.

How can two or three gathered be the Catholic Church when Ignatius says do nothing without the approval of your Bishop. Which Bishop approved the two or three gathered at Synagogue, RCCG, Christ Embassy, etc?

But shamefully, you don't believe any other part of his letter.

Perhaps you might also be of the opinion that we should cut off our body parts if they cause us to sin, because Jesus says so.

You're just as hypocritical as the rest of them.

italo: @ Enigma,
I see! You love St. Ignatius' letter so much, but only one phrase of it. The phrase you can easily twist to be what you want it to be without looking at the broader context of what your dear Saint is talking about.

How can two or three gathered be the Catholic Church when Ignatius says do nothing without the approval of your Bishop. Which Bishop approved the two or three gathered at Synagogue, RCCG, Christ Embassy, etc?

But shamefully, you don't believe any other part of his letter.

Perhaps you might also be of the opinion that we should cut off our body parts if they cause us to sin, because Jesus says so.

You're just as hypocritical as the rest of them.

alexleo: We are not wrong. I ve told him the same thing you told him to point out where he thinks we wre wrong and support it with the bible but he hasnt been able to do that.

OLAADEGBU: I can see that all you want is to win an argument. A man with an experience is not at the mercy of the man with an argument.

OLAADEGBU: Since your mind is already made up I don't see any reason to argue with you lest you become confused with the truth. I advised that you consult the Holy Spirit but you chose to rather consult your dictionary for a word. If your Governing Body is to you the Spirit of Truth then don't let me confuse you with the facts/truth.

frosbel: Beware !!!

Charismatics still pray with the rosary and to Mary .

try69: Humans and their small brains now know how God will judge..smh

Reminds me of the word "IF MEN WERE GOD, EH".

beamed: Elijah was taken away by chariot of fire. Moses went to the hill top and nevr came back. Only knows what happened there. So where did the word "purgatory" come from ? Just like "Trinity", who manufactured the word "purgatory" ? I've combed my bible and I can't seem to find the usage of the two words. Please educate me.

truthislight: i can see how well you have come along as a servant of God via the RCC.
infact, you are a shining example of what a cathlic servant if God is and should be, you are the kind that they can build with what they feed the sheep.

Do you think i had expected something better from you?

Jesus said: every good tree produces good fruit but every rotten tree produces rotten fruit.

What kind of fruit are you for God?

= agnostic (rotten fruit)

so, what kind of tree produced you ?

OLAADEGBU: Na real O ga ju.

What our Lord Jesus Christ said here sums it up:

"In that hour Jesus rejoiced in
spirit, and said, I thank thee, O
Father, Lord of heaven and
earth, that thou hast hid these
things from the wise and
prudent, and hast revealed
them unto babes: even so,
Father; for so it seemed good in
thy sight. All things are
delivered to me of my Father:
and no man knoweth who the
Son is, but the Father; and who
the Father is, but the Son, and
he to whom the Son will reveal
him . And he turned him unto
his disciples, and said privately,
Blessed are the eyes which see
the things that ye see: For I tell
you, that many prophets and
kings have desired to see those
things which ye see, and have
not seen them; and to hear
those things which ye hear, and
have not heard them " (Luke
10:21-25).

Enigma: ^^^ Ko ma ye wọn ni!

We say to know when Jesus was begotten is to know when God (The Father) and The Holy Spirit "began to exist" or "came into existence", yet they are still talking of "when" Jesus was begotten.

As someone else has put it before, in talking of the begottenness of Jesus in this particular sense, we are talking of an eternal relationship with the Father. And some people are asking "when". O ga.

"All things were made by him;
and without him was not any
thing made that was made ."
(John 1:3).

"For by him were all things
created, that are in heaven, and
that are in earth, visible and
invisible, whether they be
thrones, or dominions, or
principalities, or powers: all
things were created by him,
and for him."
(Col.1:16).

"Has in these last days spoken
to us by His Son, whom He has
appointed heir of all things, by
whom also He made the
worlds ."
(Heb.1:2)

The Apostolic Church is different
from The Apostolic Faith Church
The different is the FAITH and
their head church is in Oregon in
U.S

vickyO: @ bookmark, thank you once again.
(@ iyato, bookmark said it all and i referred you to his explanation to avoid repitition)

truthislight: you did not give reason why you people doNT do animal sacrifice again, abi do you? Pls explain.

About Hebrews 7, you really meant you red it but did not get it?

Try again here :

"And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:" (Hebrews 7:5).
"And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth." (Hebrews 7:.
"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law." (Hebrews 7:12).
^^^
maybe you have a command to tith in the NT like it was in the OT.

And in the NT men that die still collect tith like the levi that do die.

And it is a must that you keep performing animal sacrifice because you can not keep part of the law and leave. Such is the reason for a curse.

If you dont do animal sacrifice you have to give a reason also here if you are a honest person.
Peace.

italo: Okay, you that loves Christ that Catholics don't love. Can you please help me ask this Apostolic Faith people if their Church can possibly be wrong on any of its teachings?

Don't be a hypocrite like them o. You know your beloved Jesus dislikes hypocrites. Look at what he told them in Matthew 23.

bongila: If so,I should start praying for the soul of my uncle who died a MASON to be forgiven and accepted into heaven. HOGWASH.