LuvSwollenPussy: Hmm. I keep asking myself too. Only Bill can answer that o..only him knows himself. Hilary showed her virtue-worth especially in a place like the USA where such is uncommon and she got herself honor..kudos to her.
1stCitizen: James 5:16...Confess your sins to one another.
Do you confess all your sins to the people around or your wife or partner?
Did you read anywhere Paul confessed his sins of persecution to the church? Did the woman caught in adultery confess to the wives affected or her husband?
I am not against openness in marriage, in fact, we both came out clean on everything from the beginning and within the relationship and now marriage but again, There was really not much to confess.
I believe in situations like This as with restitution, pray to God for direction.
Gaidenk: The Poster is actually forcing people to accept her point of view. Now that's a guilty persons action,Madam you didn't have to come to nairaland for us to help soot the decision you have made to deceive your hubby,in as much as there are more of women like you in this world,please try not to poison the character of those who have decided that openness and honesty is a virtue they will uphold. you give women a bad name.
The OP gave her opinion on an issue and supports it. This is not about teaching women to deceive their husbands or not.
I am 100% sure a lot of men Don't come clean to Their spouses too.
babyosisi: I guess controversy is my middle name Every wise woman knows the things I wrote there are 100% truth Something prompted this thread I have watched a marriage where the man had cheated many times then separated a few times.THey came back together and he moved to the guest room and totally neglected her then in that weak moment after months of torture,she had sex with an older family friend who basically took advantage of her vulnerability ,one day when the marriage seemed to be on the up,filled with guilt and without wisdom she knelt down ,cried and confessed and he divorced her. True story Up till this moment every story is about her cheating no one ever mentions his
If she had come to me with her guilt,God knows I would have advised her to shut her mouth . SHe also regrets confessing [size=18pt] So ladies,if you are a good woman who wandered, confess to your God and keep your mouth shut [/size]
Imagine the stains
1. The marriage is over 2. The whole world knows what you did including little kids
[size=18pt]Keep your mouths shut I say[/size]
I think This is one aspect that really discourages coming out clean for women
But again, the wife was not forced to forgive the man na.
She made her decision, the husband made his.
Though the husband should have let go. His case is like the story of the wicked servant in the Bible.
LuvSwollenPussy: True write up but I disagree with this point. Faithfulness and conscience are not same. Your repentance isn't complete without confession to d cheated fellow..even God doesn't term that a complete repentance. If repentance was just enough, bill and hillary clinton won't be together today. Bill cheated with a worker in d white house(monica lewisky) but confessed to his wife..of course she was hurt but forgave him afterwards. Later when the trial of his impeachment came up in court, his wife stood by him as opposed to what ppl expected. Many ppl dnt knw their spouse as much as outsiders know them until they get disrespected publicly for their spouse's action
I remember my mum used to warn me at tender age that if I do anything wrong I should confess and prepare my mind for the consequence b4 d offended fellow finds out by him/herself. You'll gain more honor dat way..and dat I should bear in mind dat not all offenders are simple and forgiving as she is.
Do you think the outcome would have been same If it was Hilary that cheated?
babygirlfl: To be honest, the best and ideal thing is for a couple to be completely honest and open to each other. It's by far the best type of marriage which should be what couple should have as a standard. However just like many standards that should be maintained in marriage, our people are very very far from it.
Nigerian women should not kid themselves by thinking that the couple is being asked to be honest to each other. In most cases, they are asking only you the WOMAN to be honest.
If Nigerians want the women to be honest, we have to make a conducive environment for it. We have to be less judgemental and more open ourselves.
My thoughts
I remember someone once said be honest with style
He was relating it to Joyce Meyer who told her husband her father raped her.
I don't know about an average Nigerian guy/husband to be Anyways.
delishpot: Seduction? If a woman.married or single is expected to respect herself and ignore seduction from males around her work place, why then are some men acting like its impossible to ignore seduction too? As for harrassment, ehn, I can understand that one. .But I do not believe a student can sexually harass her lecturer. Wetin he get to lose if he doesnt sleep with her? If she is his boss that I can understand but in both cases, the men involved are the "bosses" so what can they claim they will lose if they do not give in to the seduction or harrassment? My answer is NONE
Thank you
Besides, the parties involved know How to handle themselves when necessary
Serious minded pastors counsel in pairs or have their wives around.
I know of a lecturer that never had female course reps or entertained females alone in his office.
nickibarb: what do you know. Gov Amaechi that just celebrated his 50th birthday and has held one political post or the other since he was 34 years old, will you tell him to go and get a real job? someone that can buy you and your family 10 times over. 8 more years of politicizing, and he would have spent his whole working career as a politician. so if you don't have any reasonable contribution, just stfu.
for the rest of you who made very helpful contributions, positive and negative, thank you very much. hubby and i had a heart to heart conversation, we learnt from our mistakes, figured out what we could have done differently and our marriage is back to rosy-land again. i've learnt to keep the MIL far away from our affairs. we've neither spoken to nor seen each other since then. whenever our paths cross, i'm sure time will have healed all wounds. remain blessed y'all
bellong: Yes, the priest is watching out for his clans...
@Cococandy,
I believe most parents teach chastity not necessarily telling the girls to keep themselves pure for their men but for religious reasons.
Being chaste doesn't stop anybody from reaching the peak of pleasure, things are learnt. There are enough good materials available to aid it. And I agree with parents who teach chastity because the benefits outweigh the cons. I only do not agree with the methods adopted. There are other ways to teach your children and be open about sex while not compromising sanctity.
Like someone said a lot of wives need to free themselves to their husband to enjoy it. Some are too frigid and it is a big hindrance.
A number of parents teach their daughters to be chaste for their husbands (not saying it is bad) and their sons to avoid pregnancies (and not all sex leads to pregnancy) when they were younger
As they grow older, the emphasis remains on the girl and the guy is just left out along the line.
Even in churches, emphasis is made on female virginity.
Such training while important should be tweaked from the current standards. Teach them both sex is honorable in marriage and when done in the right context is sweet & pleasurable not the old wives' tale of it is evil bla bla
@the end, I agree with you
Wonderful sex is not necessarily as a result of multiple partners...
A stud was once a virgin. Two virgins with an healthy attitude towards sex is just as perfect for the job.
The link I posted is from a Christian Marriage website...
A 31 day challenge on How to change your sex life with your husband.
5minsmadness: You know I've been suspecting for a while... Reading thru your experiences and posts kept striking a familiar chord. This your last post did the trick.
@Cococandy: I remember when I was around 14... my mum always gave me marriage books to read... for whatever reasons, I do not know
Unfortunately, she bought one and just gave me to read without reading it first.
O gal, that book had one whole chapter on sex and even take home assignment .
Na So I read and learnt that variety is the spice of sex.
Needless to say, I picked up the phrase
One day, she read the book and felt it was over my head and told me never to read it again...I told her I glanced through it and all was well till...
One beautiful day, we were gisting with my younger sis and I said variety is the spice of...my mom gave me a withering look and said 'spice of'.... I thought hard and said 'spice of life '
Busy hailing the family members of his oppressors when the sight of them should make him angry
Lindaikeji, Nairaland keep promoting thís stüpidity on their front page. If it's not Fayoses son flaunting our stolen commonwealth in our face, it will be Bode George's son or Atikus daughter. Nairaland will label it "beautiful picture of X and Y" and the foolish sheep that we call our fellow citizens will like the picture and claim they are beautiful.
Why not educate the people as to how Isabela Dos Santos became Africas richest woman by stealing Angolas commonwealth and granting herself import waivers whilst pegging everyone else's at 40% so they can't do business. Instead lalasticlala will label her beautiful and send her to front page. And the worship of our oppressors continues.
dBard: Your post shows an understanding of marriage borne from experience and common sense. Thank God for your corrections, cos this is the kind of posts that leads to issues in marriage, when one party is still trying to maintain their identity when the 2actually is 'To Become One'. recipe f disaster.